You never told me says Cap Moon to Libra Moon...

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The Cap moon and Libra moon couple. They broke up last month.

You should hear the sigh of relief from the family when we heard the news. No more sitting across them at dinner time anymore listening to how great a couple they are and how much hubby and I need to learn from them.

The couple who boasted to everyone how they never ever fight broke up after their very 1st fight after 8 yrs living together.

Then the Libra moon poured salt to the wounded but hopeful Cap moon by letting him know that they will never ever getting back together.

Ouch!
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Posted by grayid2
Well us posted in case they do get back together...🙂 you cant just throw away years of love like that..and Its like pushing over a soda dispenser, you gotta rock it back and forth a few times ...🙂



They rock it back and forth just fine...you know the cap moon even tell us (hubby and I) that they have sex everyday. It is there that they connect, I think.

In my hubby humble opinion, they are not getting back together. Libra moon has someone else in her sight already.
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Since their break up, Libra moon called him several times. She asked him how is he going to manage. Cap moon said we broke up so you don't have to worry about that.

The fight that broke it up happened when Cap moon showed Libra moon a nice ring picture in a Tiffany's catalog. Instead of answering his question, Libra moon said hey listen we gotta talk about something. I think we both need to take a break. Cap moon flared up and in the process he kicked her out of his condo. A week later, he apologized to her for losing it and asked for another try on their relationship to which she replied we're never getting back together. It has been a struggle for me all these years but last week's fight had assured me that this is not the relationship that I want. Cap moon flared up again.
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You and the hubby "need to learn from them?"

Well what exactly is it about you and your husband that THEY think you need advice in the first place? That is quite condescending, and I'm sorry Someone would imply that to you. 😢



As a couple, Cap moon and Libra moon, are very condescending kind of people. They like to think that they are a good example of how a couple should be. Arrogant much?

Too bad though, they are perfect for each other. Libra moon is an arrogant materialistic girl. Cap moon has a false sense of self-importance. Perfect match!

I went out of the country and I brought them both some nice gifts and Cap moon's comment was "Oh this is cheap stuff. Libra moon won't wear this." To this day, they have never thank me for it. I expected that from them though so no surprise there for me.
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It's an 8-10 yrs relationship. He's been taking her out to concerts, expensive restaurant, etc, basically the stuff that people do when they were dating/living together, he now wants to get reimbursed basically. He claimed that he keeps all the receipts too. He is basically sending her a bill. He wants me to help him out with putting together an invoice to libra moon. I avoid cap moon like a plague now. I don't want to get involve.

I don't know if this is typical of a cap moon because my cap sun brother is not like this at all. I mean my cap sun bro is not generous by all means but if a girl broke up with him (which is often), my cap sun bro won't send her a bill.
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This break-up is now getting nasty. Lawyers get involve as cap moon feels that libra moon owe him some money and now cap moon determine to get his money back. It's a long term relationship, so I wonder how much money he is talking about. Sad.



it's the fault of the cap moon for GIVING so much and not getting much in return (if that's how he feels)

and so he's taking revenge. lol

if you have no money or little money to GIVE so much to a woman, don't bother with luxurious ways then.

she'll move on to another target who has more money (if that's her agenda)
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This break-up is now getting nasty. Lawyers get involve as cap moon feels that libra moon owe him some money and now cap moon determine to get his money back. It's a long term relationship, so I wonder how much money he is talking about. Sad.



it's the fault of the cap moon for GIVING so much and not getting much in return (if that's how he feels)

and so he's taking revenge. lol

if you have no money or little money to GIVE so much to a woman, don't bother with luxurious ways then.

she'll move on to another target who has more money (if that's her agenda)



Fair point.

There's a type of guy who will throw himself at a woman like it's his job. And there's a type of woman who specializes in opportunism. One is looking to buy affection while the other exploits the situation. It works in reverse as well.

It's especially unfortunate when it's to the point where it's so internalized that neither party is really conscious of what they're doing until the other shoe drops.
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well if that's their dynamics that is how it is. it doesn't concern us if it's not affecting us in anyway.

but if they come to us, like say a family member or friend who is bitching and moaning about it,
what did they expect??

The woman who is exploiting is also at fault for stringing the man along and not cutting it off. She and him are playing this game of, "i'll buy you, and she'll TAKE take take, and never give anything back."

well whatever works for them.
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It's an 8-10 yrs relationship. He's been taking her out to concerts, expensive restaurant, etc, basically the stuff that people do when they were dating/living together, he now wants to get reimbursed basically. He claimed that he keeps all the receipts too. He is basically sending her a bill. He wants me to help him out with putting together an invoice to libra moon. I avoid cap moon like a plague now. I don't want to get involve.

I don't know if this is typical of a cap moon because my cap sun brother is not like this at all. I mean my cap sun bro is not generous by all means but if a girl broke up with him (which is often), my cap sun bro won't send her a bill.



distasteful.



This.

Though I'm not sure why it's worth even mentioning that someone (cap sum bro or not) *won't* send a bill. Because most people won't do such a thing to begin with.

Or maybe it's worse than I thought. 😆
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but i still agree with this.

he lost out. He spent his money out of his own free will.

he spent TIME with her, which she also did too, attending to these places with him!!! yet he is harassing her about this? It's really just revenge and it's very distateful and you're all right.
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Last weekend, Libra moon was saying in front of our family member that she felt the relationship is wrong for them since the day she moved in with Cap moon. Her saying this making me really sad for cap moon. It was an 8-10 yrs relationship, why didn't she said something?

A lot of people in our family was saying that cap moon was taken advantage for his stability. I'm thinking maybe because Cap moon is a 7th house person so he needs this relationship more than the Libra moon did. Who knows.

Even though their after math is really sad, my husband and I feel relief. Why? Because this means no more get together with Libra moon who is an awkward person. So yay on that.
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Last weekend, Libra moon was saying in front of our family member that she felt the relationship is wrong for them since the day she moved in with Cap moon. Her saying this making me really sad for cap moon. It was an 8-10 yrs relationship, why didn't she said something?

A lot of people in our family was saying that cap moon was taken advantage for his stability. I'm thinking maybe because Cap moon is a 7th house person so he needs this relationship more than the Libra moon did. Who knows.

Even though their after math is really sad, my husband and I feel relief. Why? Because this means no more get together with Libra moon who is an awkward person. So yay on that.



it sounds like this cap mooner is a 7th houser, thus why it was attracted to the libra mooner.

also depending on the mars, and the venus. i bet the cap mooner has a 7th house mars or libra mars. my gf's husband has a libra mars to her libra moon. it fits. his sag venus to her sag mars 8th house.
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I don't know how much money he has or make. I just think he is not good at losing. He acted like she took something away from him.

Day to day he has been so weird. One day he'd asked advise on how to get her back and the next day he said he is over her. Sad really. But he will be over her soon enough and on to the next woman. I hope the next one will be good for her. I hope for a Pisces or Aqua moon for him.

Speaking of gambling, I agree that being in love is like that. However, he has a knack on attracting weird women. The one before this Libra moon girl was just as weird but don't ask me about her birth chart cause I wasn't high class enough for her to even say hi to. Anyway, if you have a habit on pulling bad cards, how do you win at gambling?
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I don't know how much money he has or make. I just think he is not good at losing. He acted like she took something away from him.

Day to day he has been so weird. One day he'd asked advise on how to get her back and the next day he said he is over her. Sad really. But he will be over her soon enough and on to the next woman. I hope the next one will be good for her. I hope for a Pisces or Aqua moon for him.

Speaking of gambling, I agree that being in love is like that. However, he has a knack on attracting weird women. The one before this Libra moon girl was just as weird but don't ask me about her birth chart cause I wasn't high class enough for her to even say hi to. Anyway, if you have a habit on pulling bad cards, how do you win at gambling?



why would you wish those other two moon signs on this guy?? he sounds like a loser, literally.

what's his mars?

i read somewhere that a very good astrologer who has been observing men from a young age (teens) would watch how a man approaches things /life/women (his mars sign) you look to the mars sign first.

because that's the (aries placement which means the first) and whatever your mars sign, you need to see what how he approaches life and gets it.

from this indication, the mars sign has ALOT to do with an individual's sex life, how he approaches life in general. Also, house placements help and aspects because many astrologers say taurus mars and libra mars are in detriment, and cancer mars is in the fall. But i've seen many cancer mars men who are profesional athletes or really professional and great in their careers, and they don't have any trouble in their lives making good money. So it Always depends on the aspects/houses.

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The Cap moon I mentioned in this thread is having a bad time and we're all do and say silly things when we're having bad times. Breaking up with someone after 8-10 yrs certainly will give anyone a bad time.

I mentioned those moons is because I just watched an astrology video (from another thread). I didn't mean to offend anybody by referencing those moon signs. I was just thinking out loud. Sorry about that.

He is a very negative person, indeed. Nothing anyone did were right from his point of view. Let's say we invited him and his girl to a restaurant (of our fav) and he will start criticizing the restaurant from the food to the server to the price to everything. Seriously, with that ex gf of his, he become worst, like arrogant moron almost. For that 8-10 yrs, he loved hanging out with us (hubby and I) and we went out almost once a month and I resented that because I can see that none of us was having a good time. I know I never did but I have to comply because he is family, after all.
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The Cap moon I mentioned in this thread is having a bad time and we're all do and say silly things when we're having bad times. Breaking up with someone after 8-10 yrs certainly will give anyone a bad time.

I mentioned those moons is because I just watched an astrology video (from another thread). I didn't mean to offend anybody by referencing those moon signs. I was just thinking out loud. Sorry about that.

He is a very negative person, indeed. Nothing anyone did were right from his point of view. Let's say we invited him and his girl to a restaurant (of our fav) and he will start criticizing the restaurant from the food to the server to the price to everything. Seriously, with that ex gf of his, he become worst, like arrogant moron almost. For that 8-10 yrs, he loved hanging out with us (hubby and I) and we went out almost once a month and I resented that because I can see that none of us was having a good time. I know I never did but I have to comply because he is family, after all.



gross.

you already said that he's super negative and makes everyone feel DOWN and terrible.

i guess the libra mooner stuck to it because (like astrologers Always say) she doesn't want to be ALONE.

double gross. One's company is better than being with someone who is crappy to be around.

well sorry to hear about your relative (he's family right?)

i dont know what happened to him, but jesus christ. I would tell him straight to his face that he needs to stop that, because he'll be a lonely fucker for the rest of his life.

And it sounds like (since he has a 7th house moon) that he hates to be alone.

well, there are women out there who are desperate. I'm sure he'll find someone.

There's someone for everyone.
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Yes, he is 7th house moon and it sounds like it makes him feel that he needs relationship to define himself. His sun is also in the 7th house. Not sure what that mean though. I find out his mars is taurus with aqua venus.

You know how when a person break up, they will feel blue for days (months even) then learn from that relationship then move on, right? I don't think this guy can. We've been dodging his calls now cause we just don't need that kind of negativity right now. Let's say he used us a crutch now to get better and then he gets better by which time he will cut us off. This happened way too much that pissed me off. What kind of a person is this. BUT we will let him use us as a crutch anyway no matter how we feel, what will that make us.

This weekend was better, he didn't knock on our door at midnight crying like last weekend. Let's see what happen this week. Hope for the best, I am anyway.
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AquaMermaid,

Yes, I do wish Cap moon can move on to next girl, hopefully Aqua or Pisces moon. I saw a video from another thread that says Cap moon and Pisces/Aqua moon has great magnetic relationship. Cap moon deserve happiness and he's been taken advantage by one girl before. I know about this one other girl because I was already in the family when he introduced her to me. His good side is that he's too damn generous and he was always the one who fall-in-love head over heel EVERY time.

Yesterday he came to us happily and said that Libra moon finally called him back and wanted to come over and spend some time with him this weekend. So I asked him "Did she say why?". Cap moon said "It doesn't matter, my door will always be open for her." I said "Be careful with your heart." Cap moon said "I know you worry about me sis, but I love her, still." I said "We love you too and we hate to see you get hurt." Cap moon said "That's you being overprotective again now sis, I think I'll be good this time, you know. I'll cook for her, like I used to. She needs me to fix her car. I'll do that and I'll cook for her."

When he left, I looked at my husband with questioned-mark face and he said "What? You see how the Libra moon girl can play him like a fiddle. What can I say? Let's just sit back and watch what happen, shall we?"
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Wow, That's a lot of drama I've ever seen from a Cap Mooner.I am married to a Cap Mooner and he's anything but a drama queen.He's too serious and practical.I don't think Cap Moon and Libra Moon is a good match.Cap Mooner doesn't give up easily and likes stability.He's more likely to try to mend the bond when things get rough.He might not apologize but he tries in indirect ways.I've not known Cap Mooners to send the bills.My husband is Scorpio Sun though so he's careful about his money and is suspicious of people.He will never let anyone take advantage of him.No one is tricking a single penny out of my husband's pocket,lol.He's too smart.I do know a Capricorn man who got taken advantage of when we were friends.He lend his "friends" a lot of money and they kept using him.He told me how he had to cut them off from his life because they were fooling him. The amount was huge.I was so shocked.His logic was that he helped them because they were in need.He expected them to return the loyalty and dedication.He felt cheated because they used to lie to him a lot.I think it's more about his Cap Sun.He wants loyalty in return of his dedication.It's fairly easy to take advantage of them.I've seen them wasting their loyalty on wrong people.If the Cancer girl felt she was with the wrong man since beginning,she should've walked out.Libra Mooners procrastinate too much.I do know a Cap Moon woman who's happily married to an Aquarius Moon guy for over 25 years.They're only getting more stronger.She holds the family together and is the backbone for her husband.I do think Cap Moon works better with an Aqua Moon rather than the Libra Moon.



the only one i've seen so far is Johnny Depp and his new wife (he's cap moon and she's libra moon)

but they just got married and have dated for a short while so we'll see in a few more years.

also, the aquarius moon and capricorn moon is better from what i've seen (like Victoria Beckham and David Beckham and looks very happy and is long term)
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@VirgoDragirl, That's Cap Moon for you.He doesn't give up easily. That's something I love about my husband as well. Although I am a Cancer Moon, I've never taken advantage of his dedication for me.He'll see right through it because he's a stinger. Water Sun girls do know how to manipulate and I find it very amusing that it actually works for them every time.Just like I said before, Caps like to waste their loyalty on wrong people. Your brother will learn it hard way.But I don't wish bad for any couple so for his sake I hope she returns his love and loyalty and they stay together.



yeah i can see this. SOME cap men (like my uncle cap) wasted his loyalty on the wrong woman. I felt bad for him. But my other cap uncle did NOT waste his loyalty at all. He was a very Lucky cap man. Maybe i'll do his chart one day. He's the january Cap and he recently lost his wife to cancer, and she was a good woman, loyal to the end. Also, my cancer gf's father is a december cap, married to a gemini and from what i saw, they have a good marriage and she's very loyal and good to him. My cancer gf says her cap father is stern (but saturnian men are naturally stern right?) but he's a good provider and loyal, and loves to see his children do well and not suffer.
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@ Lisa, Oh yes! Beckham is Cap Mooner right? He got his wife's name tattooed on his arm.They've been together and strong despite the rumours of his cheating.I had a huge crush on him when I was a teenager.But I cringe every time he speaks.That voice on a man ewwww.I like Gerard Butler though.He's another Cap Mooner.I guess I am naturally attracted to Cap Moons. My moon is opposite to his moon and they say opposites attract. Very true! 😛



lol@ Beckham's voice. Now i need to re-check, AM. 😆

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@ Lisa, Oh yes! Beckham is Cap Mooner right? He got his wife's name tattooed on his arm.They've been together and strong despite the rumours of his cheating.I had a huge crush on him when I was a teenager.But I cringe every time he speaks.That voice on a man ewwww.I like Gerard Butler though.He's another Cap Mooner.I guess I am naturally attracted to Cap Moons. My moon is opposite to his moon and they say opposites attract. Very true! 😛



lol on Butler's voice, Scottish accents are nice if it's the right type. (just in case someone posts on Austin Power's Fat Bastard) lmao.

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Hey, that's good. How do you know that? Yeah I have Virgo Venus. Heard it's not good Venus placement but I'm stuck with it. 😄

I imagine that it'll be annoying so much if he is talking to me and all I can see and hear is his mouth. Ugh!



lol you notice the tiny details.

yeah i read alot of articles that say virgo venus is the worst to have for love placement, and they say that too in vedic. (virgo venuses can't get any breaks!) even Jupiter virgo is supposedly bad in vedic. I guess they just mean stop being so picky, nothing is perfect.

the only family member that we know who have virgo venus is brother in law, but it's opposite his moon. My sister is the perfect woman in his eyes. so that's good. lol

this is a good article on your venus, or those in 6th house venus.

http://www.tarot.com/astrology/venus-in-virgo-love<BR>
With Venus in this "fall" position, it becomes difficult for Venus to express her Venusian best because, well, Virgo is just so darn self-effacing. Self-deprecating, even. Venus wants to schmooze. She wants to get all dressed up, put on a little lipstick and sing "I Feel Pretty" to the world.

In Virgo however, this becomes impossible. Virgo is the librarian with a ruler-straight back, tight bun in her hair and studious eyes that are busy perfecting her craft through thick, unsightly spectacles. Virgo doesn't have time or patience for all of Venus' flights of fancy. Nah, she's got work to do.

When Venus tours Virgo in a birth chart, the love nature becomes extremely discriminatory. This sign feels that if she can't have love that's perfect, she'd rather have no love at all. In fact, Venus in Virgo tends to be more in love with work and service than love.

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oh, and if you have health problems, this is one of the perfect placements for help. they'll be forever bound to you. i was just pondering over this over health issues and taking care of people. No wonder my brother in law's venus virgo /pisces moon/ helps my sister alot. he supports her while she is so stressed from the world, and she overeats sometimes. She stresses way too much from her life. My brother in law helps her emotionally, and relieves her and boosts her health. that is the meaning of virgo's service in another way.
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Update on Cap moon and his ex, Libra moon:

Last week, Cap moon attempted a discussion about them getting back together. This is when Libra moon confessed that she has been having an affair at work with her married boss. It has been going on since the 3rd year of their relationship. The affair resulted in her promotions. It is still going strong now, she claimed. Cap moon wrote a letter to her corporate, naming names and the period in which it had happened. She is suspended pending further investigation by her corporate. Now, she is reporting him to court for abuse.

A lover scorned. Her tactic is to ruin his name and clear hers.