any pisces-scorpio couples or ex couples,

maybe you could share your experiences with me? i'm curious and as any other scorpio, constantly over-analyze.....

Scorpios are very dominate and possessive...

Pisces are very passive, and will not take action on many things. You will find yourself often being more controlling then intended, this is the way of the pisces, completely indecisive. Your pisces will eventually resent you for being so controlling, and you will become upset because you feel like you have no other choice. Also, if your pisces doesn't have a good career by the time of oh say age 25, chances are they will never find a steady job, and you will always have to work 2 jobs to sustain a normal like with your pisces. However, pisces will love you more then any other sign ever will, and will be more romanitc then any other sign, they always have their head in the clouds and they live in dream land. Doesn't always work with head straight scorpio, who sees logic before fantasy. So, if you are willing to become a dominate controlling bitch, then you should have no problem with your pisces, allthough your pisces will never understand you the way you want them to, they will never understand the trajedies that surround most scorpios lives. They will forever be a child stuck in a man's body, you will never have a man that you can depend on or lean on when times are hard, pisces are very flighty and will "swim" away once the waters get too dark for them. Don't expect them to stick around if things get too difficult, they will for sure run back to the one thing that will always be there for them, their mother or father. Be prepared for a rocky journey ahead of you, you will have fights like no tomorrow, and you will have the greatest love of your life. If you can't be their mother or father, look somewhere else.

"your pisces will never understand you the way you want them to, they will never understand the trajedies that surround most scorpios lives."


Most Pisces are aware that people make their own realities by the energy they embrace. You're right about swimming away when the waters get too dark .. we love light .. bring him to the light, instead of the darkness of tragedy that surrounds you.

Sorry it didn't work out, S702 ..

Mine didnt work out either...I'm kinda sad but also not. Me=Scorp lady, him=Pisces guy.

He was low energy, always tired and almost too lazy to do anything about the relationship (and in general), which drove me crazy. Lack of effort in any area of life drives me crazy!

I really made a huge effort to not come on too strongly. I gave him so much space, and still he decided he wasnt in the headspace to be in a relationship. Emotionally, he had walls around him and I didn't. He said essentially "he wasnt feeling it" with me. I do have a Scorp's ego, like "how can't he not like me?". Who knows though. Although the sexual attraction was pretty good too...his stamina wasnt great.

All along he was very aware of my emotions and always adjusted himself accordingly. Always for the worst though. I know now that he is sorry for hurting me, I can tell he is genuinely sorry for that. Which sort of helps--I'm more forgiving than usual.

I don't know, I felt a connection with him and I'll go as far to say that it was mutual. I really trust my feelings...he claims though that it wasnt really there. That hurt.

So yeah my few cents on my failed relationship. He also swam away everytime things got difficult, which was annoying.

love and peace to you all

😢

I thought Goldie was a Leo?

She's Scorp?

Yeah Goldie is a scorp...So its only possible when the male Pisces steps up and acts like a real man, which Kurt obviously did.

Yeah they are a good example...and! Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton too. Hot hot...Immortal love.

I don't know ... Kurt seems like a wuss to me, but, I don't read those gossip magazines, so I don't know too much about him.

Liz and Richard had it steamy, for sure .. but, they couldn't get along at all. Weren't they back and forth in marriage?

Scorpio's are too possessive for Pisces, from my perspective. When they start getting clingy and possessive .. my walls go up and emotional distance is put between us. Normally, once the Fish starts to feel smothered and their sense of freedom is being taken away .. we swim. Perhaps, that would seem annoying .. it is also annoying to the Pisces that every tiny detail of our lives has to be held accountable to the Scorpio.

We are secretive creatures, as well .. we have to maintain a certain amount of mystery .. or, we become emotionally detached from our partner until we find the opportunity to swim in calmer waters that provides a sense of security without infringing upon our private space.

Really? I figured it was Liz who was intolerable, since she had so many marriages. I wonder how many times Richard was married?

"Scorpio's are too possessive for Pisces, from my perspective. When they start getting clingy and possessive .. my walls go up and emotional distance is put between us. Normally, once the Fish starts to feel smothered and their sense of freedom is being taken away .. we swim. Perhaps, that would seem annoying .. it is also annoying to the Pisces that every tiny detail of our lives has to be held accountable to the Scorpio."

Oh man what can I say...thats exactly how the Pisces I dated made me feel. You just described our relationship.

But listen from my side: we Scorps really really don't mean to be possessive. We are intense, we feel a lot and we just care. I dont know why you Pisces peeps have these sensitive walls and you pick up every single vibe we give out! We arent out there to bite. Just like that is your nature, why cant you Pisces' accept that this is our nature? We are intense and we show it. Its because we care. I personally think its better to stick around and go through a challenge than swim away.

Swim away and then what? You never learn, you never grow. I dont get it.

And from what I know, Richard B. and Liz T. had a very complex relationship. It was rocky but the connection was very deep and the love too. Love isn't always tidy and neat!

"I personally think its better to stick around and go through a challenge than swim away."

It's not a challenge to us .. a challenge is something to conquer. To the Scorpio, the challenge for Pisces to deal with is to accept an intensity in the name of caring. No different than any other person that proposes that the problem to overcome is ours to be accountable .. when in fact it's the other person who's emotions are out of control.

Maybe this will give you some insight when dealing with the Pisces .. because we "feel" everything in life, we are very controlled with our feelings. Certainly, we spike under emotional duress .. but, what I mean is that our experience with feeling is at the expertise level.

For instance: We can just back off, put up an emotional wall and it has no reflection or consequences on how we actually feel about you. I can love a person so much that it's everything I can do to breathe and still put up this wall. That's because we are experts at controlling how another person effects us .. we can just simply NOT experience it if we choose not to. I choose to not feel your intensity, your possessiveness, your whatever the issue at hand is .. yet, still love you with all my heart.

From the outside looking in (like you, for instance) .. this looks like we've just written you off and are cold-hearted and insensitive to your feelings .. when from our perspective, it's a self-preservation mechanism. We refuse to suffer emotionally for another person who means to hold us accountable because they are emotionally out of control with how they feel. In essence, we are the complete opposite from our fellow water people who proposes that it's the other person who is responsible for how they feel, and should view it as a challenge to overcome and/or come to terms for their emotions for them.

That's not a challenge to us .. that's a weakness, an insecurity of the other person who thinks it's our responsibility.

Maybe that sounded like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, but, it sounded right in my head, lol.

Simply put .. we just won't tolerate it when another person doesn't know what to do with their feelings and means to put it on us, as though it's up to us to fix it for them. This happens all the time to us and we just learn to put this wall up, block it out and carry on with our lives, waiting for the other person to come to terms with how they feel, so they can deal with it as it's suppose to be .. within themselves.

"Swim away and then what? You never learn, you never grow. I dont get it."


What is there to learn? We already comprehend that the person we swam away from was unaware of how to deal with their feelings .. that's why they attempted to hold us responsible in the first place.

You mean .. we haven't learnt to deal with your feelings for you?

We choose not to .. so we don't.

Pisces deals with their own feelings independently .. we cry alone, we grieve alone, we experience and handle all of our emotions alone. I fully realize that other people can't do that .. hence: they visit it on us.

People have an erroneous belief that Pisces are doormats .. that we will allow people to walk over us and this simply isn't true. Any person who has dealt with a Pisces in real life knows full well that we will take NO emotional abuse from anybody .. ever.

We swim .. alright, maybe that appears to be weak from a person doesn't comprehend that it's emotional abuse we were protecting ourselves from. That's quite the opposite from being a doormat, isn't it? If we stood and took it, allowed another to visit their out of control emotions on us .. then, we'd be doormats.

We don't .. we just leave and go look for someone with emotional fortitude, who can handle their own feelings.

Of course, the other side of the coin .. the fish swimming in the other direction ..

So long as it's not abusive, we'll open our hearts. If a person is suffering, is distraught, grieving or any other emotion that they can't handle or know how to overcome .. we are the first ones there with a compassionate heart. That is to say .. so long as it's not abusive, so long as it's not EXPECTED of us to carry any guilt for them, so long as we aren't held to blame for them feeling bad about themselves.

.. so long as the person to whom we are healing with our empathetic sympathy is need of assistant .. and not in need of a whipping post.

#1 "For instance: We can just back off, put up an emotional wall and it has no reflection or consequences on how we actually feel about you. I can love a person so much that it's everything I can do to breathe and still put up this wall. That's because we are experts at controlling how another person effects us .. we can just simply NOT experience it if we choose not to. I choose to not feel your intensity, your possessiveness, your whatever the issue at hand is .. yet, still love you with all my heart."

#2 "We refuse to suffer emotionally for another person who means to hold us accountable because they are emotionally out of control with how they feel."

Whoa. Thats a lot of stuff...

The 1st one gave me a lot of insight. It was helpful. I can relate, it makes sense. I thank you for that. I really do wonder why the love is kept in and not shown though. It makes one feel robbed and hungry for love😢

But the 2nd one is an assumption. Why is it to you guys that we have intense feelings, that that is automatically "out of control"? It feels real. And who is in control of their emotions when they are falling in love with someone--regardless of their sign? Thats how that stuff feels...How does it feel to you out-of-this world Pisces peeps? (sorry for the light sarcasm) When you are falling for someone and its scary?

My pisces guy had said to me "I'm not giving my heart away so fast" in such a defensive way...It hurt so much.

To me the swimming away is still weird, and non-confrontational. How do you guys make up in your mind that something isnt worth confronting? Anyway not all these questions are literal.

Who said Scorp-Pisces were a good match? I've never been so confused in my life, nor have felt such contrasts for someone and yet still unable to be mad at him!

At least this Pisces to me...it felt a hell of a lot like he couldn't deal with his emotions so he ran away...

I dont need a whipping post I need insight and I'm happy to provide to those in need too.

Don't apologize for the sarcasm .. people are walking hypocrites, such as life has handed us .. without satire and making a funny out of it, then what's the point in even trying to keep living?

Personally, I don't think any of us water people should be coupled, though, there is a lady in here with a Cancer who seems to be fairing fine in her relationship.

"Why is it to you guys that we have intense feelings, that that is automatically "out of control"?"

From just experience and learning from it. For instance, there was a Scorpio lady in here not long ago who was so obssessed over her Pisces guy that it was actually disgusting, how absolutely no self-respect or pride she had for herself. She treated herself like a piece of crap and the only thing that mattered was having him .. it wasn't even his love she wanted .. just him, like an object to possess. It was totally disgraceful and we all cringed at how someone could be so unaware of their feelings that they thought a person was actually an object to own and she thought she would just die if she didn't own him. Scorpio's obssess, kafka .. that's how they show their intensity. That's a generalization of course, and so it's not fair to say all Scorpio's .. however, the majority of them. I understand that it's because you guys care so much and this is how you show it .. but, it makes us sick, really, it does.

People aren't objects, and that's how possessiveness makes us feel, like a piece of meat. It doesn't make us feel loved, though, I fully understand that it's coming from a place of love. Certainly, the Pisces/Scorpio combo is not a mental or emotionally healthy one. And neither one are at fault, we are just way too different to come to compatible terms.

So, for us .. once the Scorpio describes their feelings as being intense, we back off and go whoa, wait a minute .. a defense and protection mechanism. We know that intensity means possessiveness, jealousy, obssession.

We just can't do it, kafka .. We just don't do that kind of intense because it appears to us to be emotionally chaotic .. maybe that's the description of being intense and it seems normal inside your skin and that's fine, if that's who you are .. Pisces just won't participate.

I don't have anything against Scorpio's .. in fact, my son is one and I love him dearly. I'm just saying how we feel about this "INTENSITY", and why we back off and erect the wall.

It could be that your Pisces man was unstable .. to say all Pisces are this, all Scorpios are that .. is unfair.

Maybe he was just a plain out jerk, got scard and ran 🙂

Can you tell I got in a talkative mood, pp?

Just rambling on and on ..

You're the only one I know who can make it with another water person. What's your secret?

Him being 12 years older probably puts you two closer to a commitment maturity level .. don't girls mature faster than boys?

Also, pp .. you're pretty balanced yourself .. very mentally and emotionally controlled.

Funny .. as I think about it .. all the Pisces in here are emotionally controlled, for the most part. Yet, other signs think we are weaklings and try to walk over us. We're not at all. How and why do the write ups on us have it so wrong?

What do we do that appears emotionally weak to people looking in? Because we swim away, rather than confronting? How is that weak? Doesn't it take the stronger person to walk away, and the weaker one to stand and argue a useless battle?

I don't get it.

Yes everyone does deal with their problems differently...
I dont call swimming away weak, but it just isnt my style . I cant relate. Respect to all you Pisces.

I think everything is relative. Someone can be running away and that can be weak. To me, not confronting is disrespectful to me and weak. (sometimes) But to some, I can see how its the better and stronger thing to do. However, some battles are worth fighting too. When we decide something's worth it, we think its strong to stick around. Of course its all personal. Its how I know to be. No one is better or worse.

Thats how I see it.

You seem to be lucky Pretty Pisces! good for you.

No, me and pisces are still together, it's just the reality of being with him that I have come to realize that it is not as great as I thought it would be, it is not as perfect as I thought it would be.. but I do love him and I will always make an effort to make this relationship work.. but that's what I have seen from him and from other pisces as well that I have been friends with for a very long time. I just think that pisces live in their own world too much to face others.... don't know... but we are still together... he's even going to get my name tattooed on his chest... boy if we break up again... that's going to suck to have to cover that up...

Because we swim away, rather than confronting? How is that weak? Doesn't it take the stronger person to walk away, and the weaker one to stand and argue a useless battle?

well can someone also explain if it is the strength that makes them swim away why do they come back? they are strong enough to leave but not strong enough to last being apart?if they thought it wasnt worth fighting for and walked away what changes in few months?

"well can someone also explain if it is the strength that makes them swim away why do they come back? they are strong enough to leave but not strong enough to last being apart?if they thought it wasnt worth fighting for and walked away what changes in few months?"

Well, passion fruit .. I know for myself .. I'll leave long enough for the other person to come to grips with their issue .. when they are ready to talk about it, instead of fussing, crying, yelling, or griping about whatever it is .. then I come back. So long as they are still being a tyrant, I'm off doing my own thing.

Maybe it's just me exclusively and not all Pisces at all .. I can only say how I handle things. If it takes a few months for the other person to figure their shit out, then it will be those few months I'm gone.

Don't confuse this with just swimming away because it's easier. I'm talking about when the Fish actually puts their foot down and demands respect .. if the person thinks they are going to lay all their shit on me to figure out for them .. I'll leave, for however long it takes. I don't see what is worth fighting for. It's their shit, not mine .. if they want to fight for their shit .. then so be it, I'm not going to participate.

I don't see why fighting is worth anything .. if it has to be fought for, then it's a contest. If an issue has to be fought for to be worthy, quote, "it wasnt worth fighting for" .. then it's NOT worth it to me.

"if they thought it wasnt worth fighting for and walked away what changes in few months?"


Sounds like a score to keep, if it has to be a battle, fighting for it. In a few months time, maybe the other person would have realized this.

"Well, passion fruit .. I know for myself .. I'll leave long enough for the other person to come to grips with their issue .. when they are ready to talk about it, instead of fussing, crying, yelling, or griping about whatever it is .. then I come back"

ok from a scorpio point of view

I'll STAY long enough for the other person to come to grips with their issue .. when they are ready to talk about it, instead of fussing, crying, yelling, or griping about whatever it is ..
if they dont seem willing to work on it and make any progress in a reasonable lenght of time then I am GONE

"I don't see why fighting is worth anything .. if it has to be fought for, "

that is the kind of fighting I am talking about
then i know i tried hard enough,gave enough chances, space etc and didnt work out it wasnt meant to be!
and that comes across as being intense, obsessive ..
once i am gone i never go back! and dont understand going back either few months will not be enough to sort out issues! People only break patterns with great effort it might take years whatever that is you cant accept and swim away!

What you're not getting passion fruit .. is that we don't want another person to, "i tried hard enough,gave enough chances, space etc"

If it has to be tried, fought for, in order for it to succeed then it's not worth it to put forth any effort .. we swim.

We look for a fluid merging without having to try. There's no such thing as chances .. to have chances means that one person has to change a way, a trait, has to meet another's expectations and in so doing they are given chances.

"People only break patterns with great effort it might take years whatever that is you cant accept and swim away!"

You're absolutely right .. we have no interest in breaking a pattern, so since we have no interest in it, there's no reason to accept something we don't want .. we swim.

To suggest that there is a pattern to break, indicates that one of partners is doing something unacceptable and they should stop doing this unacceptable thing and accept that they need to break this pattern to suit another person. We are quite content with our life energy and have no intentions of changing soley because another person isn't accepting of us, nor do we have intentions of changing another person solely because that person isn't acceptable to us .. instead, we leave and go find a person who wouldn't suggest we have a pattern to change, or because that other person feels they need to change a pattern for us.

Apparantly, the Scorpio doesn't understand what we are looking for in life. If this is understood, then it would become clear to you guys.

We don't want change, we don't want the other person to change .. we want a partnership where we meld/merge just the way both parties are.

The Scorpio/Pisces combo just isn't meant to be .. we are way too different in our ways to find compatibility. And it's neither party's fault .. we both are the way we are .. it just is.

I've walked out on several relationships, never to return for these very reasons .. the man wanting me to change to suit him and wanted to fight about it.

There's no changing, there's no fighting about it .. if we can merge just the way we are .. I swim.

** can't .. if we can't merge

i hear what you say but dont find it realistic!
you are looking for the perfect fit.
i believe in the person, if i have faith in him i stick around.for me love is an act of faith.
for him (pisces) he believes in the idea of perfect love and if the person dont fit in his dream he dismisses them.without even trying maybe reality could be as good -if not better- as his dream.his way could take a life time and he could still not find the perfect fit.
anyway like you say our ways are way too different.
i respect his wishes but i really do struggle when he tries to come back and reverse everything.that is pointless say i figured out and grow in few months and became closer to that perfect fit but there is always gonna be something not quite the same as his dream,how about he hurt my feelings,how about trusting again ..
well when male pisces want to come back do they not think any of these things?

Passion Fruit, Pisces don't require a person to have our perfect love. We are satisfied with the idea of it in our dreams. That's why he could just dismiss it and walk away ..

I know why he leaves and comes back, passion fruit .. but, it's hard to understand. Not many people get this, and I can understand why. To even say it sounds insane .. so, you can imagine us having to live it every single day.

We have an altered reality, in this "other" reality, our love exists, as well as every aspect of our lives. It's hard to explain.

I'll try .. we require tons and tons and tons of space. We HAVE, absolutely HAVE to be alone an excessive amount of time. If we don't get this then we will seperate our love feelings from our partner because while we are in our space, our other reality, which is your unreality .. that is where our perfect illusion of love exists. We build strength in knowing that our imaginary partner loves us in the way we need it .. then, we can manage in the real world with a partner who isn't our real one.

This sounds crazy, and maybe it is, maybe I am completely mad .. but, my husband, my exes weren't real, they aren't my real lovers .. they are make-believe. My real life partner is in my head, in my dreams. So, any person I can walk away from, just dismiss because they aren't my real perfect love.

However .. if I'm allowed to be alone ALOT, I can nurture in my other reality (your unreality) the love I need to survive, for in there my partner is perfect, he is real .. I then have the ability to come to your reality and continue to love him. If this space, this illusion is taken away from me .. I'll swim away.

When we swim away, passion fruit, we are leaving because we have to delve down into our illusions where our life partner is waiting to love us down to the very core of our souls. Later .. days, weeks, we'll come back and be able to love you again. The only way to keep a Pisces is to leave them completely alone to dream .. don't pry, don't ask questions, don't invade our space at all .. if we are given this, we normally don't swim away. However, most people can't handle that. We seem like we've just drifted off to la-la land and it freaks our partners out. Just leave us alone. We process a lot of stuff "over there". Have you ever noticed how sometimes, you'll say something to us and we'll get dreamy eyed and you'll think we didn't hear you .. then 20 seconds later, we'll come back and answer?

"Have you ever noticed how sometimes, you'll say something to us and we'll get dreamy eyed and you'll think we didn't hear you .. then 20 seconds later, we'll come back and answer?"

yes.a lot of the time.i think i understand what you say more than most.well, i must do since he says i understand him like no other, and another time he said i know him better than himself and he always comes back! my problem is i know me too!! despite understanding all this i can not accept it!
i can not live with this. he sucks the life out of me!!

"This sounds crazy, and maybe it is, maybe I am completely mad .. but, my husband, my exes weren't real, they aren't my real lovers .. they are make-believe. My real life partner is in my head, in my dreams. So, any person I can walk away from, just dismiss because they aren't my real perfect love. "

well, how is this fair to the other person only because they cant live up to ur dreams you first make them believe that they are special and once u find out it was all your imagination you dismiss!this is the part i can not accept this is totally opposite to my morals.it is only our fault if we expect things from ppl they can not deliver!by doing this you set yourself up to a dissappointment, heartbreak etc and violate someone elses life and dreams too.
if all the other signs did the same thing world would be a chaotic place to live.
anyway i just want to know how to cut him out of my life.i dont want to be a part of this anymore.. maybe you are right pisces and scorpio is not a good match. i used to think we are.maybe i should find myself a nice virgo 🙂

What do you do when the Pisces male says he has intense emotional moods coupled with negativity?

leave him alone.oh and dont resent.just carry on like nothing happened.unless he wants to talk lol

Even when he claims he is cruel and unsympathetic?

*What do you want from him?*


I don't want anything from him.

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I have never known anyone to breakdown the Pisces relationship dynamic as accurately as you. Even with all the tons of astrology books I've read and believe me I have everyone under the sun & moon lol. But on the real, I applaud you, I wish I could hug you because so often, it's hard for us Pisces to breakdown & put into words why we do what we do and you did it with wisdom & true understanding of our nature. I'm going through everything you wrote with my Scorpio man. He can not understand why I just want to end it all with out a fight or struggle to make the relationship work. I am extremely in love with him but I be damn if I will be his fool or put up with the crap that he's put me through! I will not compromise my values, morals and beliefs for anyone & I've told him time and time that I can't and will not attempt to change him, I'd rather just swim away than constantly be subjected to emotional anguish time & time again. The thing with Scorpios is that they tend to relish in emotional anguish, they seem to get strength & power from it, where as us Pisces literally become sick from it. I know love is not perfect but I also know that it definitely shouldn't make you feel sad, disappointed and depressed. I'm done with feeling that way, I'd rather be alone for the rest of my life than to feel like that in a relationship and that is the difference between Pisces & Scorps.

Scorps will be in a bad relationship for years and then become bitter because they wasted all their time and energy when they should've just left. And it's not that Pisces are not loyal we just want the ultimate in a relationship. I call it the 4 dimensional relationship: Mental, Emotional, Physical and Spiritual. This is not easy to find but if we are evolved enough, we'll wait a lifetime for this. I always think that Pisces are on a whole other level than all the other signs, the other signs have to be really evolved to understand us but even then , it's still not easy. Linda Goodman is my favorite astrologer & in her book "Love Signs" she says that Pisces is the strongest out of all the signs. Her reason being is that humility is always stronger than ego in the long run & I agree especially in the case of the Pisces & Scorpio relationship. My best friend, my mom & alot of my cousins are Scorpios & their ego always gets in the way of them succeeding in life the way they should. It's a shame how much ego can destroy but it's true....

Who has more ego, Leos or Scorpios?

Also, I would like to know directly from the Scorpios...

What makes your eyes so intense? It's almost intrusive. I don't know maybe it's just me but I've always wondered that.

"the rough waters have given you experience and helped to shape your character"

That's great that these rough waters give you experience to help shape your character, AS. However, we live in these waters, called "emotions". We don't need YOUR feelings for our growth, like everybody else, and that is what you are suggesting. When times are bad, you want to muddle through the rough places, come out the other end a stronger person .... that's for you, AS .. we were strong going in, all this growth is yours, not ours.

You're right, perhaps you don't understand the Pisces because it doesn't shape us in our growth, it retards us. To remain in rough, dark waters of the Scorpio's self-inflicting suffering, is 'bad' for us and only provides growth for yourself, since you're the one going through this self-discovery of feeelings.

"Does anyone really think that a couple who has been together for 40,50, 60 years has never had hard times?"

Of course not ... I've been married for 25 years and have many hard times along the way. I'm still here, never swam away (yet).

Do you honestly think that the Pisces just "swims" away without just cause? Pisces have more backbone and are tougher than any sign when it comes to emotional endurance .. we can outlast any of you emotionally, if we wanted to.

Don't confuse strength for weakness AS .. you are saying things as though we may be weak and not enduring because that's what YOU want in order to dictate to us ... when in reality, because we already know this about the Scorpio, our swimming away from you is actually fortitude. We're not going to be controlled, simply because the Scorpio has no control over themselves.

And it has everything to do with being evolved .... the Scorpio will lose theirself simply because they were ignored ... lol, a Pisces knows that nobody owes us anything and if they want to ignore somebody that's fine .. trueness is, it can't be won. A Scorpio will fight for love ... how stupid, really. If we didn't love you before, we certainly aren't after a display of chaotic emotions.

I just don't know how else to get it through ... to say fight for a love, stick it out, growth, and all the things that suggest that the Pisces should not "swim" away is all for your benefit and not for us at all ... for we don't learn ANYTHING from your growing emotions and self-discovery through trial and error to help you evolve to where we already are .. that's for you to learn.

"I've told him time and time that I can't and will not attempt to change him, I'd rather just swim away than constantly be subjected to emotional anguish time & time again. The thing with Scorpios is that they tend to relish in emotional anguish, they seem to get strength & power from it, where as us Pisces literally become sick from it."


Hi Goldenlady .. I don't think we've ever met before. Nice to meet you 🙂 Emotional anguish, I hear that ... it's what the Scorpio is all about, they thrive for it. You've endured this, Bravo !!! You must be really super emotionally strong 🙂

Literally .. sick. Funny, Scorps saying, stick it out, fight for the love, confront .. huh? It's making us SICK .. hello !!!

I seriously believe that the Scorpio can feel as deeply as we can, they just don't have the control that we have over ourselves, so since this is so intense to them ... if they have another to control, then it brings some sort of order and/or satisfaction. I think this is why they are so hung up on this whole committment thing ... they need somebody forever to live vicariously through by means of controlling their feelings for them, since they will have this intensity they don't know what to do with until they die.

So, naturally, they would want someone to whom will NEVER leave them. Virgo's might be the ticket .. they are probably the least self-aware, practically no intuition .. so, it will take decades before it ever dawns on them that the Scorpio doesn't need another to love to "feel" .. that's what this intensity is, that's their secrets. They just need someone to keep in order, they need someone who is in emotional need to keep together so they have somewhere to put forth this effort and I guess that's why they don't understand us Pisces.

They think we are weak and in need to emotional control, then when they hook up with us, they find out we have what they want, and can't have and it I think it ticks them off a little ... we we're born evolved to this point already.

lol .. we can walk or stand, and still "feel" the intensity, completely in control of our emotions and I think this pisses them off GoldenLady.

I definitely agree about the ego .. it's a self-destroyer. I'm really surprised at how strong it is in some people. I'm so glad I was born a Pisces and can put this part of me aside 🙂🙂 Maybe that's what it is, goldenlady, that makes us evolved .. we can seperate from our egos

Hi P-Angel! Can I say again that you are the best. You are truly on point! If you actually knew everything I was going through with my Scorpio Man you'd be astonished on how accurate you are...Well let me rephrase that, I'm astonished on how accurate you are...lol.

When you stated

"So, naturally, they would want someone to whom will NEVER leave them. Virgo's might be the ticket .. they are probably the least self-aware, practically no intuition .. so, it will take decades before it ever dawns on them that the Scorpio doesn't need another to love to "feel" .. that's what this intensity is, that's their secrets. They just need someone to keep in order, they need someone who is in emotional need to keep together so they have somewhere to put forth this effort and I guess that's why they don't understand us Pisces."

Let me tell you how on point you are. My Scorps baby's mom is a Virgo! She's still in love with him but he's in love with me! A real live love triangle I had myself in. It's so true what you say about Virgos. It seems that thats the only way he can have control is through her because he seriously does not have control over me so the only way that he can have some type of control over me is through my emotions, by promising me things that he purposefully doesn't deliver or putting me through some type of unnecessary emotional anguish. I never knew his baby's mom (virgo) was still in love with him until recently but I figured something was up because his child is only 2. I actually felt sympathy for her because I myself knows how it feels to be in love with someone who does not love you back, it's the worst feeling in the world! I really wouldn't wish that on anyone. He said he wasn't with her, which was true because every time he had his child she was never there. I'm thinking, didn't she (virgo) know what she was getting herself into, with this crazy emotionally draining man. I just couldn't comprehend why you would bring a baby into this day in time without being married & without realizing that you don't have a love that is so deep and fulfilling that you know it will transcend everything.

But just like you said P-Angel Virgos "are probably the least self-aware, practically no intuition .. so, it will take decades before it ever dawns on them that the Scorpio doesn't need another to love to "feel" .. that's what this intensity is, that's their secrets."

And I know this to be a fact about Virgos because I attract this sign to my life opposite sex wise more than any other sign. Also my grandfather (virgo) & my grandmother (pisces) have been married for 55 years & even though I think they're soul mates, my grandfather (virgo) still doesn't fully understand my grandmother. It just seemed like it never dawned on him to explore her spiritual and emotional depths to really know her on a deep level. She tells me that after 55 years of marriage she often feels so alone. I am almost positive that thats how my Scorpio man feels with his virgo baby's mom, like damn I have a baby with this women but she hasn't taken the time to understand the depths of my soul & spirit! Which as you know P-Angel we being Pisces already comprehend & understand a persons soul & spirit the first day we meet them!

You also said:

"they find out we have what they want, and can't have and it I think it ticks them off a little ... we we're born evolved to this point already."

This is so on point! My best Scorpio friend even realizes this. She said that my traits make him want me even more but at the same time it totally frustrates & drives him crazy! But seriously if Scorpios could control their egos the way that they control or think they control everything else then the Pisces & Scorpio relationship dynamic would be a force to be reckoned with! It has dynasty and empire building potential. It's a tragedy that such a potentially strong, powerful & fulfilling relationship doesn't last.

Anotherscorp -

That's the problem with Scorpios you guys always want to draaag an issue on and on and on get revenge and all that BS, when your little feelings are hurt. Some signs & people are scared of Scorpios "sting", give me a brake. I have never met one Pisces who was ever scared of a Scorpio. Most if not all Pisces believe in Karma which is more powerful than petty revenge anyday. Karma takes no energy at all while stupid revenge takes energy that can be utilized for something productive. Scorpios live and thrive from getting reactions out of people. This comment I'm typing probably has your adrenalin on high. I know you can't wait to respond. I know Scorpios better than you probably know yourself. My mom, best friend, cousins, uncle, aunt & my ex man are all Scorpios, I'm surrounded by you crazy energy draining vampires but with all that said I do love Scorpios, I know you're horrible bad traits & I know your lovely good traits and I respect them. P-Angel broke the Pisces & Scorpio dynamic down, explained it to the fullest & you're still wanting her to explain it more. It's apparent that you're the one who won't humbly accept what she said as truth. Your EGO won't let you. If thats not mentally & emotionally draining I don't know what is.

"the Scorpio will lose theirself simply because they were ignored"


Sometimes, it doesn't even take that .. sometimes, they get emotionally off just from someone talking in a way they don't like.

Back to control ....

Yup P-Angel it's all about control with the Scorps. 2 bad for them.

"I just couldn't comprehend why you would bring a baby into this day in time without being married & without realizing that you don't have a love that is so deep and fulfilling that you know it will transcend everything."


I'm with you on this one .. I don't understand this either. Many questions come to mind: You they really not know depth from shallow? Or, do they know and they think that they can entrap somebody?

Sorry you are struggling with your man, goldenlady .. we have another female Pisces in here, though she hasn't been around for a while, who was with a Scorpio man and she swears NEVER AGAIN .. too much emotional anguish for her also.

pp linked me up to a site where they talked about the how these two could benefit each other and I tend to agree. Pisces has backing and staying power to encourage full force ... if the Scorpio would realize that the Fish can be an ally, instead of a subordinate then I believe mountains could be moved.

i cannot understand whats going on in here😢

you guys are playing hangman?