Are Pisces men the sweetest or what?

I met a pisces guy and he's been the greatest thing that's ever happened to me. I've never met someone who I felt instantly connected to. We don't even have to talk ( I'm a gemini, so you know I like to talk 😉 ) just being with him makes me happy. I've never been with a pisces before, but if you are all like this I see that I've been missing out. He's currently going through some stressful times with finishing school and work and paying bills so things have kind of come to a stand still. He says he needs some time to get his stuff together. At first I was missing him like crazy but he keeps in touch and let's me know he's still thinking of me. He's worth the wait for sure so I'm not trippin on him. I just found him and I'm not about to let him go!

*sigh*

i don't get "happy" from your post at all. it sounds like you're missing him and where you're attempting to be understanding, i sense a bit of distress in your message. you may be asking yourself if you're overreacting and that's why you're tempering what lies underneath your words with hope.

odd...reading it made me feel sad for you.

she doesn't mean THAT kind of sweet 😉

@caligula... I do miss him a lot. I've come to understand that men tend to pull back when they're going through hard times because they have to be men and work it out on their own. They don't like being smothered and babied, that only makes it worse. I'm very concerned for him and miss him but the best thing I can do is go on with my life and be there if he should need me. He will come back around when he's ready and I know he appreciates me not sweating him or making him feel guilty for needing time. From reading some of the posts on here, it seems like pisces tend to swim away for a time to be in their heads for a bit, but as long as there's no pressure they come back. He's a straightforward no nonsense kind of a guy, I trust that he will work it out and be back. It's hard on me because I tend to take everyone's problems on my shoulders and when someone I care about is going through hard times I want to make it better, but sometimes there's nothing you can do. Don't be sad for me. Sometimes good things are worth waiting for. I've been impatient all my life, I'm a gemini and my attention span is all over the place. But there's something special about him and I'm willing to learn to be patient 🙂

yeah, i kinda sensed that something was amiss and that you were lamenting him in a way. not to say that things are going horribly wrong but clearly you're not feeling...a return of emo in the same way that it was before his personal drama arose.

i've come to realize that men aren't that much different from women. i think the notion that they need or want to deal with their issues on their own is a fallacy. no, they don't want to be smothered or nagged into revealing their innermost thoughts. no, they don't want to spend hours rehashing the same feelings repeatedly as a girlfriend would. but just because they don't express themselves the way we do, doesn't mean they don't desire to let it out. i think just like us, they ultimately desire a safe place to which they can go to be open, raw and feel accepted.

when a man pulls away or doesn't share his woes with you, BUT you on the other hand feel/desire/need to be open and raw with him, i think it's a sign that the relationship is not what it seems. how can one person be so open and ready to accept and love while the other "swims away?"

correct me if i'm wrong but fishies don't typically "swim away" from people they love and are invested in?

if i were you, i'd begin to suss out if you are being as welcoming as you should be. just because he's "swam away" doesn't mean you can't reel his ass back in. yes, you should allow him space and the opportunity to sort through his poo but i also think you have to be willing to step into his waters in the right way and let him know it's ok to come to you.

Well, we haven't known each other long enough to be "in love" so I don't think he knows me well enough to feel that I'm a safe haven. Maybe he's still trying to figure that out. I've let him know that I'm here for him. I even helped him out financially when he had no one else to turn to. I think he's embarrassed about it and he even said he feels kinda guilty about accepting my help and now his pride is getting in the way. He asked me as a last resort, so I helped him. He specifically said he needed some time to get his stuff together so I don't wanna push it. Any suggestions are welcome, but right now I just feel that letting him come back around on his own is the best thing I can do...

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

you loaned him money? how long have you two known one another? and out of curiosity, how much did you lend him?

I've known him for a couple of months. He had some traffic tickets he didn't pay so when he got pulled over they put him in jail. He asked if I could bond him out, he said if not, it was ok but so far no one else in his family had come up with the money. So I could let him sit in jail and lose his job and his externship or go out on a limb and help him out...it was a tough decision but I'm a softy so I helped him. It was a few hundred.

oh.

yeah, i can imagine that losing his job would not be cool...especially over traffic fines. what does he do?...job wise? and is he from the area? is his family local?

did you go down and have to bond him out? i thought with traffic tickets you have to actually pay the tickets in order to get out? if it was just a few hundred, the cops should've given him a pass. that sucks.

when's the last time you two hung out?

nefer or tiki anywhere in the e-vicinity?

The bond was a few hundred, the tickets were 1200. It was three tickets. Him and his family are local. Last time we hung out was last week, but that was me being impulsive I asked if I could stop by and say hi and he was really distant and quiet... the last time we hung out before that was a few weeks ago. The following week he got put in jail and from then on he's been "trying to get his stuff together" and says he does better alone when he's stressed out because he doesn't want to bring anyone else down just because he is. He still has to go to court over the tickets, I just bonded him out so he wouldn't have to sit in jail.

so did you have to go down to the jail? and what did he say once you bonded him out? what was his demeanor in the car on the way home?

I only had to go to the bond place and they went to the jail. He called me and told me his brother was gonna pick him up. He said he really appreciated me helping him and he hoped I didn't get the impression that he was a loser or something.

overall, i get how humbled he must feel. "men" don't like to be rescued...they like to ride horses and wear armor. a sure fire way for him to reassert himself as a man would be to promptly repay you but with the case pending, that may be easier said than done.

was there a date set to repay?

i'm too tired to be fiery. all i can say is you need to be a little wiser moving forward.

you dont know this man well enough to lend him a cup of sugar...he might not return the container you put it in.

the fact that his family couldn't gather up the funds to bond him out says A LOT! his brother knew how to pick him up but bro couldn't have met you at the bond place and given you $ 20? $ 10? no one in his family had ANYTHING? not one red cent? nothing to offset this kind gesture? you don't find this odd?

the fact that he didn't want to see you after your having done this favor for him says a lot as well. if someone had done this for me, i would have been happy to have them pick me up...just to say thank you to their face in that moment. they helped me when no one else wouldnt. a face-to-face thank you is the least i could do.

frankly, i think you got got. he's "swimming away" alright but not for the reasons you think. i'm sure if he could repay you, he would but he couldn't even afford to get bonded out. he couldn't even call his family and say look, "loan me a few hundred and as soon as i get out, we'll go to the atm and i'll give it right back to you."

he has a job and an externship and a family and he had to ask a woman that he's known a couple of months for assistance?

pisces men are the sweetest? uhm...not in this case.

I told him to give what he could when he could. He's only working part time and his externship doesn't pay. He'll graduate with his medical assisting degree when he finishing his externship in november. He can't pay it right now and I think that's what's holding him up. I keep telling him I understand why he feels the way he does, I would too if it were me. At the same time I wanna give him my perspective though. We were good til all this happened, and now he doesn't wanna see me and though he stays in touch I feel very disconnected from him. I wish he could see how it feels for me. I'm the one who went out on a limb to help him out and instead of being greatful he's pulled away. He always talked about girls who would bail whenever times got tough, but I was there for him. He seems to be the one that's bailed. I don't know if I should tell him all this though, I don't wanna act too emotional. I'm scared to mess it up.

He did come over the next day and thank me personally. But he's mia since then... says he needs some time.

eh...no need to act emotional.

you got got. as i said, he can't feasibly repay you. the warning signs were there and it's clear that by the time he's able to repay you, you probably won't even be around.

never loan money to family/friends/SO's that you can't afford to give away. if you loan it and expect it to be returned, you're a fool. if you get lucky and they repay you, great but more often than not, you will be the LAST on the list of bill collectors. where the intent isn't to harm, not repaying you isn't going to effect a credit rating or cut off the the electricity.

pay you "when he can" means NEVER! assume it means NEVER! and what you should do now is separate your disappointment from the reality. business is business and bitch betta have yo' money.

text or email him. do or say something to get him to commit to repaying or acknowledging the loan. do not be overly aggressive. do not be overly emotional. find a way to tactfully bring up the subject so that you can get it in writing.

if the time comes and it's clear he has no intent to repay, you will have your proof. you can choose at that point to sue or to just chalk it up to a life lesson. if you choose to pursue it civilly, do so within a year of the loan OR within 6 months of no contact...whichever is first.

now if he repays you, all gravy. you didn't react emotionally or angrily. he has lived up to his word. you two can move forward in bliss.

I really do think he will pay me back...but I also think that until he does he's going to distance himself. It sucks cuz it's really not fair to me.

I really do think he will pay me back...but I also think that until he does he's going to distance himself. It sucks cuz it's really not fair to me.

Only time will tell but in the meantime this sucks...

chicky, try to understand what i'm saying and don't be defensive.

you said his tickets are 1200 right?

he didn't have the $ 300 in assurance for his family let alone you.

he's in school.

he only works part-time.

the economy is in the poop sack.

now let's assume that he wont be able to pay you until after he graduates. when will that be? at best, if he got a job, a month thereafter is when you could best expect to have your money. so unless he's a "medical street representative," where is he supposed to get your money?

hopefully the bond is returned to you once he shows up for court? eh...good luck.

Ahhhh but see the money is not what's stressing me. I knew damn well he wouldn't be able to pay me back anytime soon. What bothers me is his behavior. We can't just be cool and hang out now. He knows that I'm understanding about the money, I told him he could pay me back once he got a medical job, no big deal. I feel like I'm being punished for helping him out and that's not cool.

Ahhhh but see the money is not what's stressing me. I knew damn well he wouldn't be able to pay me back anytime soon. What bothers me is his behavior. We can't just be cool and hang out now. He knows that I'm understanding about the money, I told him he could pay me back once he got a medical job, no big deal. I feel like I'm being punished for helping him out and that's not cool.

page 3 is playing hide and go get it.

you knew he wouldn't be able to pay you back, but what you're not realizing is, HE KNEW he wouldn't be able to pay you back. hell, his family knew he wouldn't be able to pay them back which is why he either didn't bother asking them or they said, "hellllllz no!"

if he knew he wouldn't be able to pay you back then saying, "i'll pay you back" is what? a lie! the reason why he's distanced himself? shame.

Yeah you may be right. He's definitely feeling some shame, I agree with that. Whether or not he will come through, only time will tell. I'll let you know how it turns out.

well good luck and you're right, you can't make him come to you but i think you should chalk this up as a lesson regardless of the outcome.

it's not so much that he's a bad guy but it'd be like loaning a 14 y/0 the same amount of money and expecting repayment. if he could, he would. he can't and the end result is what? shame. now he's dodging you because of that shame. the event was bad enough but now, the woman he was interested in is going to see his flaws on blast and he can't feasibly do right by you in a reasonable amount of time.

if you forgive the debt, you teach him that you're a sucker. if he has any sense of self-respect, your further kindness and understanding is only going to make him feel worse.

what i've noticed about my friends who are married is that they all needed their current spouse in some way at a pivotal juncture in their relationship. men need to feel needed and in this day in age, with women making their own way, "needing" a guy doesn't mean what it used to. he doesn't want to feel needed emotionally but he damn sure doesn't want to be emasculated financially.

so never, EVER loan or give a man money...or shoes 😛

to the threadstarter:

that guy you talkin about don't really like you like that,str8 up..either that, or he got another chick on the side..

because if you really like someone, regardless of how "stressful" your life is or whateva, you'd still want to be with that person..matter of fact, i'd definetly want you around because i may need you to help me get my mind off the stress..and maybe give me some head too..for real

Posted by Days22
Are Pisces men the sweetest or what?

No.

But we will make you think we are because it is what we want you to think orrr we want something from you.

LOL Isn't this ALL men? 😛

Posted by LoveBucket


Considering irresponsible is a Piscean trait and considering his family wouldn't rather than couldn't, because they could, bail him out based on his charge, I'm thinking they may love his sweetness too, but may be fed up with his irresponsible and impractical traits/ways and therefore let him sit this one out. Perhaps they rested their confidences in his secret weapon of being sweet to get him out of jail. And sure enough, not only did it get him out, but his sweetness also inspired this thread. Perhaps the question should have been Is Sweetness a Piecean secret weapon?

Yes, they are sweet people but don't let yourself get so carried away that you ignore or battle what Caligua is saying because it sounds to me like she's trying to help you.

you may be on to something. i'm not saying he's a bad guy. she hasnt said enough about him to make that assumption. but she definitely needed to think before she eagerly came to his rescue. we're the damsels...not them.

also what baffles me about some of the people who post here is the "obvious to me" contradiction within their posts. the title says one thing and on the surface, the post seems happy and is singing praises but all you have to do is take a look at the words and realize that something is amiss.

I definitely appreciate and respect everyone's input. Caligula knows what she's talking about. I don't usually do such drastically nice things for people I don't know that well, I was kinda put on the spot. I had to make the decision very quickly since it was a Friday afternoon and to bond someone out you have to do it within business hours. I've probably been screwed over royally. What sucks is that I honestly believe had he not been pulled over and never needed my help, that we would still be spending time together and it would be all good. That's not the case though. I've been leaving him alone, he still keeps contact with me. He may still want to keep communication open so we can move forward when he does work it all out... or he just feels bad for taking advantage of a really sweet person. Who knows? I'm gonna move on with my life and if he decides to get right and take care of business then he can be part of it one day 🙂

Whoo boy. What a relief those statements are gents, truly. 😛

That is very kind a thing to say.
I am pretty nice.
Sometimes I am so sensitive and kind that I am called gay (I am not) which is funny.
Every Pisces friend I have are all very gentle and kind and have a hard time hiding it.
Having the most feminine energy in the zodiac makes a man fesh a bit different than your regular macho "I'll kick your ass bitch" kinda guy.

Pisces boys tend to be really sweet.

Update: I am dating other guys. He never came through and paid the money back. He's claiming to not even have a job now and hasn't kept in contact much. I'm done with him.

Don't ever lend men money!

Lesson learned! 🙂

Posted by gem0609
Lesson learned! 🙂

Ahhhh I hope you get your money back. and interest.

Posted by cloudyminded

Posted by gem0609
Lesson learned! 🙂

Ahhhh I hope you get your money back. and interest.

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Oh and what's new between you two?

With a pisces man for 10 years. The sweetest man, no games at all. Straight to the point. Sorry your man didn't work.

Here's the thing Gem... I noticed you are from Texas as am I. I'd double check the laws in your county (I'm in Harris County, Houston, TX), but in mine tickets are served concurrently and the average earned per day is $ 300.

For example - If I have 4 tickets for $ 300 each and owe the courts $ 1200 total you get something called "time served". You earn $ 300 a day each day for each ticket. Meaning even though you have four tickets you are earning three hundred dollars to EACH ticket EACH day. You would be out in one day and all your tickets would have an automatic pled guilty or no contest (you actually go before a judge in court and plead whichever way you decide), but you would be done with them. Finito!

When you go the bonding route the court date is reset and you will have to go back to trial. Also, you'll lose all your money if he skips out on court again as you're the one who paid his bond.

I know it's far too late for any of this, but maybe it will be a lesson to learn going forward.... His moans about being in jail and losing his job— Yeah, he could have just called his boss or had someone else call and say he ate bad fish (hahahaha, I love a good pun) and by the time his "stomach bug" had passed he'd be out of jail and back at work.

Now that time has passed... I'm curious... did the dickwad go to his new court date? I'm betting his user ass didn't, but hey I've been wrong before... once or twice maybe. 🙂 If he did man up you'll get a refund back from the court for the bond you posted(which can take months). If not, you're in the same position you are in now.

Not the sweetest but def. the clumiest looking.

Posted by caligula
she doesn't mean THAT kind of sweet 😉

What? ? Hahaha!

Posted by gem0609
I told him to give what he could when he could. He's only working part time and his externship doesn't pay. He'll graduate with his medical assisting degree when he finishing his externship in november. He can't pay it right now and I think that's what's holding him up. I keep telling him I understand why he feels the way he does, I would too if it were me. At the same time I wanna give him my perspective though. We were good til all this happened, and now he doesn't wanna see me and though he stays in touch I feel very disconnected from him. I wish he could see how it feels for me. I'm the one who went out on a limb to help him out and instead of being greatful he's pulled away. He always talked about girls who would bail whenever times got tough, but I was there for him. He seems to be the one that's bailed. I don't know if I should tell him all this though, I don't wanna act too emotional. I'm scared to mess it up.

From what I know, pisces men like women that are strong and confident. They like being with decisive women. You have to be frank yet kind at the same time. So you're afraid of messing things up? He took your money and bounced. Do you think that he is worrying about messing anything up? Tell him what is on your mind sooner than later, and try not to sound whiney.

Posted by gem0609
I met a pisces guy and he's been the greatest thing that's ever happened to me. I've never met someone who I felt instantly connected to. We don't even have to talk ( I'm a gemini, so you know I like to talk 😉 ) just being with him makes me happy. 0

I'm a little pissed. This thread was initially about how this guy was the greatest thing that ever happened to you. I was actually gleaming for you. Then the truth revealed shortly after. That is so messed up that he just left you high and dry. It's not about the fact that he is a pisces either. It's just shows a lot about his character as a person. It's great that you are dating again. Good luck.

Well this happened back in September and no he never did pay me back. I learned my lesson the hard way. Now i'm happy with someone else who never asks for money or gets himself landed in jail 🙂

Haha nope. Libra. Supposed to be Gemini's best match, so far so good!

He's better than sickeningly sweet. He's funny and genuine.

Posted by LoveBucket

Not me because the posts about Pisces men on this forum consistently seem to start out like how hers did -- that sweet, soulmate stuff, and then the bullshit follows.

Perhaps they always start out like this b/c with Pisces men being the *emotion and feeling* sign, if they can't do shit right the one thing they can do right is work the hell out of a girl's emotions and feelings. Then, once she's worked over (declaring he's the sweetest ever and that he's her soulmate) WATCH OUT b/c the bullshit is not far behind. 🙂 You just watch and see, the next time somebody comes in here posting about a Pisces man -- it will start out the same. 🙂

Perhaps the subliminal behind SWEETEST EVER in the Pisces sign is PROCEED WITH CAUTION. 🙂

(speaking as a girl who learned the VERY hard way as well and who rarely uses the eff word, but when reserved for extra special uses it adds just the flavor I'm looking for)

CAN I GET A FUCKING STANDING OVATION TO THIS ONE———??
WAIT, I LIKE THIS SO FUCKING MUCH I AM GOING TO STACK A FEW FUCKING MIDGETS ON EACH OTHER AND THEN STAND ON THEIR FUCKING HEADS TO APPLAUD THIS FUCKING STATEMENT.

FUCK YES. I FUCKING LIKE THIS.

Posted by LoveBucket


Perhaps the subliminal behind SWEETEST EVER in the Pisces sign is PROCEED WITH CAUTION. 🙂

Interesting....I'm listening.

Posted by aPiscesPrincess

Posted by LoveBucket
Perhaps the subliminal behind SWEETEST EVER in the Pisces sign is PROCEED WITH CAUTION. 🙂

I would say that's true sometimes. Pisces can be some of the genuinely sweetest people, but a lot of us have a 'hidden' darkside similar to the not so hidden 'darkside' people attribute to Scorpios. So when that side comes out of Pisces, people can be shocked.

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You can say that again. It is more than shocking.