Crazy crab, Confused fish!

When a Pisces man keeps returning.


Okay so my Pisces ex and I have broken up for a few years now.He was married with kids when we were together apparently even though he didn't tell me a thing and we practically lived together EVERYDAY with no wife or kids in sight!

We broke up before I found out about his wife and kids and I kept my distance ever since I found out!

Problem is he knows how I feel about him still(I told him)

We talk as friends, he pisses me off, I curse him out, we stop talking,he comes back, pisses me off, I curse him out..we stop talking, he comes back and repeat like 10 times. (facepalm)

He haven't seen me in years (because we have CRAZY attraction, physical, emotional, mentally,spiritual you name it)

He wants to come see me all the time but the marriage thing..I don't wanna be bothered with any of that so I always Say NO!

He is still flirting with girls I know it cause I know him!

The thing is with buddy boy is no matter how bad I curse him out he keeps coming back like nothing had happened wanting to see me.This has been going on for years now.

He came back during the last Mercury retrograde and the ones before that and in between retrogrades lol.

Now he is back again during Venus retrograde, I cursed him out but apologised this morning and told him I hate it when we fight but I think we should not be friends because he knows how I feel about him and he cannot give me what I need (relationship, kids etc)because he is MARRIED!

We both can't seem to let go of each other...I noticed.

I changed my number because of him but I still kept my old phone number as that's the only way I want us communicating (on whatsapp)

He always wants to know if I'm with someone.
He told me once that he always chooses the wrong one and asking me "which one were you".

Bottom line is I told him to leave me alone but I don't think that's gonna happen...he might for a few months if he lasts that long but eventually he goin pop up to make conversations.

My question is what is a girl to do with this type of behaviour?

I would like to say I understand you fishes because we're both watersigns but I DON'T! Well not with affairs of the heart anyways.
Help me understand him PLEASE....

Let me be the first to say that we both don't know how to let go of each other emotionally...not him I.

I always said I would never share my story with y'all but I give up I'm too confused at this point!

HE is a Pisces Sun, Virgo moon, Aqua Venus/Merc and Taurus Venus.Asc unknown.


I'm a Cancer Sun, Taurus moon and Asc.Leo Venus and Merc and Cap Mars.

We both have Pluto in Scorp.

Yea he is boo!
I can't block him...(I wish I could)I am still emotionally attached to him unfortunately.

I think because I was staying away from him physically and I wasn't involved with him I thought it would be cool to keep it friendly. I hate animosity at times, plus I was trying to not hold a grudge or have any hate in my heart for him but I can't say that I don't though..The constant back and forth with him is ridiculous and I can honestly say that he has drained me emotionally.I feel like I have nothing left to give anyone.

What do you want from him? You're dragging this situation out by not making a decision and allowing him to contact you. Do you want to go on like this forever? Because that is what's going to happen. Even if he leaves his family, there will still be plenty of issues in your relationship. You say you're still emotionally attached to him so you can't block him. But, imo, you can't emotionally detach BECAUSE you haven't blocked him. It's harder to let someone go when you think there's a chance they'll come back in to your life or that something will happen. This guy sounds like he'll never stop that. I know you didn't ask for advice on anything but understanding the guy and probably realize all of this, but I had to say it anyway. I really hope that you can move past this. From personal experience, I can tell you that letting go will lead to more happiness than not.

As for understanding the guy, he seems selfish. He can't handle his own issues with his family and marriage so he runs away to other women. No loyalty or commitment.

I could have totally written this story to as T me also cancer him also pisces... im not that young either

I even had a block in place for years that was managed to be worked its way around (wont say how but the measure was taken on my end for sure )

i cant understand it either - ive never felt a pull like it in my life

part Pisces part Pluto part unexplainable ( I think the dark part of pisces plays a part definitely with the cheating (not married in my case) and the water merging ..Pisces cant say no to temptation like other signs if they are the dark side of the fish

I actually have Pluto on my descendent within a degree currently so part of me knows the lesson (with venus retro also) and my nodes are currently conjunct Pluto in my chart also

but even if they werent there I still think I would be in the same situation .. i spent years working myself away from the situation I changed cites, did therapy, changed my life said no to bad and toxic situations, steered from dysfunctional relationships the whole deal - it took 24 hours in total to be re-pulled back

however I know its what I want to do no matter how much I try to fight it but I know how to use my power differently this time !! and that will be my take away in the end of this ..... as that is the lesson Pluto is trying to give me it just took 7 years to work out !!

I feel for you its not easy and it is easy on the outside to make comment but its a lot harder when you are on the receiving end ...maybe some things sometimes just cant be explained ..im going on for close to a decade ..

Posted by Scenic
What do you want from him? You're dragging this situation out by not making a decision and allowing him to contact you. Do you want to go on like this forever? Because that is what's going to happen. Even if he leaves his family, there will still be plenty of issues in your relationship. You say you're still emotionally attached to him so you can't block him. But, imo, you can't emotionally detach BECAUSE you haven't blocked him. It's harder to let someone go when you think there's a chance they'll come back in to your life or that something will happen. This guy sounds like he'll never stop that. I know you didn't ask for advice on anything but understanding the guy and probably realize all of this, but I had to say it anyway. I really hope that you can move past this. From personal experience, I can tell you that letting go will lead to more happiness than not.

As for understanding the guy, he seems selfish. He can't handle his own issues with his family and marriage so he runs away to other women. No loyalty or commitment.

This is why I post the story Scenic to get all views and to figure out what exactly am I doing wrong. You know to explain the situation in it's entirety and get some fresh perspective on things.I appreciate your advice. I needed and I'm listening. It's not falling on deaf ears.Im reading what you wrote and I'm questioning myself...Once again ,thank you.

@ My camp 2 fish up top^^^

What do you make of all this??

This drama is all because of his venus in aquarius. It's a fixed sign. Most people tend to forget.
They always come back especially if you treat them badly...not saying that you do just something I noticed.
I think his venus in aquarius is also the reason why he felt it was okay to be in a relationship with you even though he was married with children.
Unconventional / loose morals when it comes to honesty and fidelity are also trends with venus in aqua people.

You should try to disassociate yourself as much as you can until he gets a divorce. Even then I'm not sure if you should keep engaging in interacting with him. Your connection as strong as it may be just seems to be unhealthy and that if you continue interacting with him you may get hurt even worse.

my same situation also has Taurus venus

really bizarre

I dont know how venus in Taurus is cheating and lies its all very odd - the sex must feel that great I guess

^^^ He IS an Aqua Venus.
Taurus Mars.

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Tbh it sounds like he's a fuckboy. Trying to have his cake and eat it too.

He won't go away BECAUSE he knows how you feel. It feeds his ego and he knows he can potentially get laid if he persists long enough. Trust me on this one. Fuckboys will pester you to death for your kitty, and a bad Pisces can be very manipulative and even pride themselves in having a grip on you emotionally and physically. He sees you as weak and easily manipulated.

If you actually genuinely want to get rid of him.. Which tbh I doubt you do..

I'd suggest you send him a text saying that he should leave you alone, or that otherwise you'll air him out to his wife. And stick to your guns. That should do the trick.

First off let me say thank you for responding to my post, but let me shed a little more light on things just for you...We're over (me and the trout).Him "potentially getting laid" is written nowhere in the stars.No matter how long he persists.See I have something call pride and EGO and I can do this for a verry longggg time (which I have) so if he have time to waste he can continue chasing. Another thing me expressing my feelings to him doesn't make me weak or doesn't open me up to be manipulated any more than if I had kept my mouth shut.It just means I was open and direct with him about how I feel.I also told him that he can't give me what I want which is a relationship and kids etc because of his marriage so he should leave me alone.I LET HIM KNOW all that...open...honest and direct...we have a mutual attraction.He doesn't have any magical HOLD on me no more than I have on HIM!....I curse him out enough time for him not to want to come back annoying me but yet he still comes.
As for his wife...I don't know her.Furthermore I don't seek out bitches, they going have to come find me..
My temper is RAW and I don't play that.

I know you mean well by all that you wrote and you are right with almost all of it but I had to paint a clearer picture when it comes on to me...I'm no fool.

You said I don't really want to get rid of him but there lies the problem...I feel like I am emotionally(not physically or anything else) dependent on him and that's sad yo.I feel like there is a bond there that I'm having difficulties breaking!

Ewww

He sounds like a piece of shit.

Like a Piranha or something.

Good luck.

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
This drama is all because of his venus in aquarius. It's a fixed sign. Most people tend to forget.
They always come back especially if you treat them badly...not saying that you do just something I noticed.
I think his venus in aquarius is also the reason why he felt it was okay to be in a relationship with you even though he was married with children.
Unconventional / loose morals when it comes to honesty and fidelity are also trends with venus in aqua people.

You should try to disassociate yourself as much as you can until he gets a divorce. Even then I'm not sure if you should keep engaging in interacting with him. Your connection as strong as it may be just seems to be unhealthy and that if you continue interacting with him you may get hurt even worse.

Wise words lovey..and I agree wholeheartedly. Thanks!

Posted by tiziani
Don't you think the emotional draining could be down to the possibility you have yet to press the fast forward button on yourself?

Did you think you would ever be attracted to someone like this? It's a neutral question with no implication behind it. But the point is if the answer is "no" then perhaps you've learned some things about yourself that you have to catch up with yourself and accept. At least if you focus your understanding on yourself, and not some other person, then at least you have some power to make some changes.

I just don't really think it's him that you're looking to understand. Otherwise you wouldn't be emotionally drained. The body doesn't work like that.

Now you have thinking.....deep!

Damn Leeb lol.

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Posted by crabRiot
@ My camp 2 fish up top^^^

What do you make of all this??

I don't like the fact that he is married and flirting with you, as this is really awful behavior. I also don't like the fact that he is emotionally manipulating you because he knows you have ethics and prevent you from messing around with a married person.

As others have said, you must have the strength to say this to him:

"I care about you, but you are a married man and I cannot mess with a person's marriage and family. You should leave me alone, unless things ever end with the marriage, then maybe we can talk, but for now, no, please stop. Spend time with your family and wife, and get that in order."

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This I can do..

I seriously didn't realise I was being emotionally manipulated though(shrugs).
I used to just think as long as he don't get under my skirt, I'm doing okay, hence the distancing myself.
I thankyou for your advice Sir...#Much Appreciated!

OMG boo, I cannot believe my eyes... you were very private about this... it means this most be bothering real hard... Im talking on behalf of pisces... but I do believe some pisces and cancer connect as uncanny emotional way that could be great but it could be a nightmare... although turns into a bad addiction when things feels one way and for one reason or another it cannot be fulfilled...

The only thing I don't get about this person is, if he is fooling around with other people, including his heart seem to be attach to you, is a good indication his marriage is the only thing is wrong in his life (regardless of you). he might feel obligated to stay because of his children but is worst to be unfaithful and have a double life in the long run is going to cause hurt to himself and he is causing other people including his family for not being clear about himself.

is surprising to me to read this... because I've thought (from my BFF experience) that you cancers have this ability that once you said you are done with someone no matter how much you love them... to put them in a big box, close and lock it forever, and never look around, detach... with such connection is hard... in my case my heart still lingers... we recognize is different from everything or everybody else... but is not going to happen... in my case I think time and other people one day it will make it banish (hoping so) I'm in the same boat, not romantically just to clarify, in my case is like a member of my family just pass and I never going to see her again...

you know that is right thing to do for yourself, but is like your feelings are agains you.. you want to cause no harm to anyone but more specially cause no more harm to yourself... I've believe you when you said you really want to let go, but is so hard... do you crab thing honey, shut him out... use your survival instinct you crabs master so well... protect yourself... if he wouldn't be attached to someone else I've would have advice u to fight for him... but you have been direct and honest with him... he has choose not to clear his situation before pursuing other people.. that is very dishonest and selfish. Call me naive I don't think he is purposely manipulating you but in a way he is... because he know you love him, and he might love you back but he is a wreck... don't let him wreck you... you deserve more than that!!! big hugs... is weird but i understand the dilemma you are in.

If he decides to get a divorce I still wouldn't talk to him. He sounds like the type of guy that you probably couldn't trust even after a divorce. Plus he has kids too! Just cut your loses with him and distance yourself. This guy sounds like a piece of work! He wants to be married but mess around too.....smh.

Hey FWP my love.

Yea I decided to open up about my situation to your pond a little bit to see what feedback I get.

So far so good...Thanks for your response as well.
When I created this thread I was desperately trying to figure out his thought process.What he wants from me other than pussy as 2 posters pointed out...which to be he can get from anybody cause he is a very smart, handsome and charming guy plus he has his money so it should be no problem there for him.

I appreciate that you said that you believed me when I stated that I wanted to let him go even though emotionally iwas struggling to...
Right now as I'm writing this I'm chilling because so far he's been quiet and who knows maybe thinking deeply about all that I've said about him not being able to give me what I want so we should just either cut ties or he should just give me space.
I am not trying to get myself involved in his bullshit marriage or am I trying to influence him to leave his wife in no way.Im just trying to keep things 100 and let him know that I can't be no other woman cause I want more for myself than what he is currently able to offer.

I am more than willing to lose out on whatever connection we had/have.
I just wish he would some how just deal with whatever is going on in his marriage/life and stop seeking me out as a form of escape route.
Being with him comes at a cost right now and not one that I'm willing to pay.
I'll keep you posted on how things pan out with us but yea I had to put my bae on blast a little because he is acting like a cunt.

Posted by snlee
If he decides to get a divorce I still wouldn't talk to him. He sounds like the type of guy that you probably couldn't trust even after a divorce. Plus he has kids too! Just cut your loses with him and distance yourself. This guy sounds like a piece of work! He wants to be married but mess around too.....smh.

I'm not holding my breath for a divorce..

I'll probably be married to a Leeb by then.

You need to read "Mr Unavailable and the Fallback Girl." It's all about your situation. Look, you know you're having some kind of emotional affair with a married man and you know it's not right because you know you wouldn't want those tables turned on you. So now it's up to you to figure out why you're messing with a married man and find a way to cut all contact. This behavior isn't making you happy except for a short term high and it's really hurting the wife, who doesn't deserve this shit. Plus, it's allowing the man to behave like a dog. You need to get your self-esteem in order and get professional help if you need it. This isn't about him. It's about you and what you think you're worthy of...not much if we judge you by your actions. But the power to change this is still in your hands and you wont be empowered until you walk and close that door forever.

Este8 Can I ask you who exactly is he falling back on—

He trying to fall back but I'm not catching him.

And please don't tell me about his wife because it's not my responsibility to care for her and I don't.

I care for me only.

But I must say you are right, I do get a high off the emotions. .

Another thing he is already a dog I'm not turning him into anything.

Seek professional help for what? You bugging.

Its never that serious.

Once I start fucking other men I should be fine.

I created this thread for 2 reasons.

1) To try and understand his thought process a bit better and you all gave wonderful answers to help me there.

2) To find a way to get myself to detach emotionally and you all gave me answers to help me there as well..especially Scenic, LOR and PVAF.

I thankyou for your response though.

If you only care about yourself, I don't care to waste anymore time trying to help you. Karma's a bitch and you'll learn the hard way the costs of being a self centered bitch who only cares about Numero Uno. You give Cancer women a bad name.

Posted by Este8
If you only care about yourself, I don't care to waste anymore time trying to help you. Karma's a bitch and you'll learn the hard way the costs of being a self centered bitch who only cares about Numero Uno. You give Cancer women a bad name.

Frankly my dear, I just don't give a damn!

Are you sure he didn't get married and have a kid while you were together? Men do that mess.

Actually your situation is sad & depressing.
I see people post about their trine relationship ending all the time. A few weeks later they have moved on and posting how good its going.

This won't end unless you actually try to move on. You aren't trying. You are stuck. Your selfesteem shouldn't even care to figure out why he does what he does.

You say you only care about yourself. Do you care enough to be happier with a man of your own? Not someone elses.

I think if you focus energy on meeting other guys your interest in him will eventually fall off. Naturally.

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Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Tbh it sounds like he's a fuckboy. Trying to have his cake and eat it too.

He won't go away BECAUSE he knows how you feel. It feeds his ego and he knows he can potentially get laid if he persists long enough. Trust me on this one. Fuckboys will pester you to death for your kitty, and a bad Pisces can be very manipulative and even pride themselves in having a grip on you emotionally and physically. He sees you as weak and easily manipulated.

If you actually genuinely want to get rid of him.. Which tbh I doubt you do..

I'd suggest you send him a text saying that he should leave you alone, or that otherwise you'll air him out to his wife. And stick to your guns. That should do the trick.

Oh god. This sounds like the Pisces I was involved with.

Does this mean even though I cursed him out and he's gone, he may be back in a while?

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You can only hope! 😆

When people come & go. Back & forth especially after an argument or some intense encounter it's like a game to them. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with love. Its a high. Riding the waves of drama.

Lay up, spread your legs and present no challenge. He/she will disapear once it becomes game set match.

Posted by LunarMaiden
Are you sure he didn't get married and have a kid while you were together? Men do that mess.

Actually your situation is sad & depressing.
I see people post about their trine relationship ending all the time. A few weeks later they have moved on and posting how good its going.

This won't end unless you actually try to move on. You aren't trying. You are stuck. Your selfesteem shouldn't even care to figure out why he does what he does.

You say you only care about yourself. Do you care enough to be happier with a man of your own? Not someone elses.

I think if you focus energy on meeting other guys your interest in him will eventually fall off. Naturally.

Oh where should I begin lol

Truthfully I'm sick of talking about it, I was just extremely frustrated when I made this thread.I had cursed him out and told him some really horrible stuff and he just resurfaced after about 2 weeks like I didn't belittled him.

I haven't seen him in about 2 years or so.

We still used to keep in contact via text, call and social media..We both hit each other up whenever we felt like it to make sure we're ok and just to talk for a little. He would askto see me I would decline.

I used to get the sense that he wasn't happy with his life based on the things he would say to me..and everytime I would inquire about how he was he would say bad.I got tired of hearing that shit.

He always wanted to rekindle what we had.

Fast forward to after I made this thread now.

So since I made this thread I sever all contacts with him.
So no more reaching out to me UNLESS he showed up at my house and he's not that crazy.

A leeb has been keeping my company so the attraction towards the Fish has dimmed a bit even though I have no serious intentions for a relationship with the leeb. (They arejust not for us water folk...not deep enough).

And that's it!
Don't say I'm not trying, just say I'm not trying hard enough.Me cutting the final form of communication that wehave should do the trick hopefully.
I'm hoping that out of sight, out of mind thing works out for me.
I know this is not the end though but I will continue to run away from him as long as possible until all the feels have died off and possibly after that.

I thank you for your (slap in the face, what is wrong with you response) lol enjoyed r

It got cut off, what I was saying was.
I enjoyed reading what you had to say especiall the sad and depressing part.Now I know you were only keeping it real but it was funny to read and it brought a smile to my face that you said that.
Anywho, thanks for your reply and take care girlie.Your post is appreciated.