Double Trouble for a Pisces

I have an acquaintence, Susan, who is nearly 40 yrs old now. She is a double pisces...sun AND moon. Susan continually gets into relationships with the wrong men and gets her heart broken. She is subject to bouts of serious depression as well.

The last one really effed her up. Susan relocated to be with him and found out that he was a scumbag. She went into his email one day and found out that he had been emailing and seeing DOZENS of women around the country. Nude pics, sordid details, promises of love, marriage and babies between him and all of the women...she found all of this in his email. She got him good. She forwarded all of the emails to all of the women who he had been communicating with. Getting dumped by 27 women in one day must be a record! Believe it or not, 3 of the women chose to stick by him. They believed his excuse of "crazy ex broke into my email and sent fakes letters and photos." Now I don't necessarily agree with Susan breaking into his email but I'm happy that she found out about him and many of the other women called or emailed her to thank her.

Susan felt vindicated at first but that wore off in time. I am very worried about her. I think she is in trouble. She has always been a religious church-going person but now she says she hates god. She says she has gone to church her whole life. All she wanted her whole life was a family and god hasn't given her one. She blames god for her romantic failures. She has a beautiful face but very overweight and she now says she does not care about herself anymore. She does not believe in suicide..exactly. She won't kill herself but she says she will not care about what she eats and she'll eat whatever she wants. Without saying it aloud, she wants to eat her way to death.

She will not listen to reason, she will not listen to advice, she will not go seek help. She is despondent. I recently went through heartache myself so I know how she feels but she is way worse than I ever was. I want to help her but I don't know what to do.

omg life really sucks,i really do feel for your friend

well at 40 she probably still has a chance of having a baby and a family...

You can't help her, if she doesn't recognize, or want it

If she's spent her adult life in these kinds of relationships, then it's because she wants to.

Because her life is a wrong path from your eyes, doesn't mean it is wrong from hers.

If she truly wanted something better .. she would seek it.

To fuss, worry over her, as she projects hopelessness harms her way more than any man she's had in her life ..... for it gives her an avenue in which to continue.


If you truly want to help her ... then you have to STOP enabling her victim mentality.

Absolutely, finding herself is the way ...

Unfortunately, a Piscean who has lived a life-time being a victim of circumstances cannot see this with clarity ... and indubitably, she will find another who is equally disturbed, to whom she will live for, so she can allow herself to continue believing that this is her lot, to sink in her dark waters again because this is how she survives.

The way to show a Pisces person that they harm themselves like this is by not acknowledging its existence to pity. That may sound harsh, but, it's also the truth.

To give her attention with intentions of helping her will only provide her more ways in which to blame another ... soon, if Pesca continues to embrace this, by means of acknowledgement .. then this woman will turn the blame onto her, so it can continue to be ignored that the illness is within the self .. such as, Pesca will be told something like, "You don't understand, you say you want to help, but, you don't because you're not trying to understand"

People "treat" others they way they need to be treated .. this is fact. And Pisces people ignore, swim, detach when issues arise .. and this is exactly how they need to be treated themselves in order for us to "hear" you.

For this woman to "hear" Pesca, Pesca has to do something like this ...

"I'm not going to listen to this, if you think so lowly of yourself that you would allow this to happen in your life, then I'm done."

And walk away.

Pisces LIVE FOR the people they truly care about .. so, if Pesca did that (didn't acknowledge the misery to pity), and this Pisces lady truly cared about Pesca, and respected her .. then this Piscean lady would change herself, to make a part of her living FOR Pesca.

That's how we work.

There is no convincing us of something, a person could talk until their blue in the face about what we should do, or that we need to re-evaluate our standards, or make any attempt to "talk" to us about our lives .... and we won't hear you.

Thank you bijou and starfish for the book suggestions.

P-Angel, I understand what you are saying but you misunderstand the way that we are dealing with this. We are not fussing over her at all and we are not falling for the victim crap. However she IS our friend and we will care about her. Even if I wasn't her friend, on a human level I could never stand to see someone like this. She has become a very dark person, full of rage. She is frustrated and despondent. Yes she makes many mistakes in love, but she needs to have her eyes opened as to why. I am the only one willing to be straight with her on this. I am just waiting for the right time. I too went through a dark time after a break up. Not as dark as Susan but close. One of the biggest factors in me getting well was having friends care for me and listen to me. I even had some born-again friends/co-workers that came and prayed over me. I'm not a religious person but the positive energy and caring from them eased my mind a great deal and helped put me back on track. I am hoping we can do the same for Susan but she has that double pisces thing going on....she's SOOOO much darker and intense than I was when I had a rough time 😢

We work off of negative energy.

So long as it's positive .. we will love it, enjoy it, be the life of the party, you'll think we're the happiest people in the world .. we also don't "hear" a word you say, and our rose-colored-glasses makes us delusional into thinking we are all about that.

But, we're not.


We work off of negative energy .. we do NOT grow or adapt until you've expressed to us what you don't like

It's really not about her moon ... it's how she survives.

hi p-angel, we must've been posting at the same time. i just saw your most recent post.

i think it depends on the situation. i honestly do not think it is best to leave her alone. something in my gut just tells me that it's not ok and maybe that is because i remember how i felt when i went through my dark time. i felt SO alone. having my friends stop by or call was a relief and i'm grateful that they put up with me and listening to my bs during that time. I am a different person now. I pulled myself up by my bootstraps. but having them care for me atleast reminded me that someone in the world cared about me.

I just realized something. In my past situation and in this current one with Susan, our gemini friends were alot more caring and patient in dealing with things than the pisces friends are. During my break up, my gemini girlfriends called me several times a day and listened to me for hours. They were straight with me about my behavior but gentle at the same time. My pisces friends...I got 5 minutes of their attention, then they were GONE! It is the same with Susan now. My pisces roommate is her best friend and she is taking the same attitude as P-Angel. My roommate is frustrated with Susan and has walked away. But I know that my roommate did not tell her things straight like I would. Also I can see things through Susan's eyes....my roommate is gorgeous and is in love with her gorgeous boyfriend. I know that when my roommate is talking to Susan, Susan is thinking "What do you know? You are gorgeous and somebody loves you. Your life is good. You don't understand my pain." I am not taking the same attitude as my roommate in dealing with this...perhaps this is due to all the gemini in my chart 😛

"My pisces roommate is her best friend and she is taking the same attitude as P-Angel. My roommate is frustrated with Susan and has walked away."



I'll bet you a dollar that Susan fully acknowledges that her Piscean best friend walked away from her, and this will be where she focuses to react ... and blows you off, in comparison.

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"She will not listen to reason, she will not listen to advice, she will not go seek help."

Again .. if you truly want to help her .. then you HAVE to NOT acknowledge her misery to pity.

*She went into his email one day and found out that he had been emailing and seeing DOZENS of women around the country. *

Y'all do realize that a woman can get arrested for getting into someone else's e-mails, right?