For Haffo~

?No one can give you wisdom. You must discover it for yourself, on the journey through life, which no one can take for you.?
~Sun Bear

The above is for each and every one of us....

May you find joy in your everyday moments,

Freebird

Thank you, Freebird ..

You are so welcome P-Angel....I say we thank Sun Bear for sharing his wisdom - I always knew that Bears were highly intelligent species 😉

Always grateful for his insight .. and yours too.

Thanks Freebird.

But again, I disagree with Sun Bears statement.

lol, ok .. now I'm confused .. please enlighten 🙂

People can share their wisdom. We just dont how...most of the time. We do not understand the tools of conviction very well.

my guess then might be for you, Haffo is one of a closed mind? "We do not understand the tools of conviction very well." these are your thoughts and this is why you are lacking understanding. Pay attention to your thoughts...they say a lot about what is going on in your world.

"these are your thoughts and this is why you are lacking understanding. Pay attention to your thoughts...they say a lot about what is going on in your world."

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"There are things that I've learned from others, yet I've never experienced them. Sometimes all it takes is to listen."

Absolutely notso - I agree that we can "learn" a lot from anothers experience however, we cannot understand someone who has experienced something that we have not. We can sorta see where they are coming from but to have true "understanding" one must "experience" the experience...then we KNOW what we feel and how they may have felt.

Example - let's say you have never felt heat - you had no clue what it was...others may have told you it's hot, it hurts, becareful.... but you still have no clue because you have not experienced it. (think of being a toddler) then one day...you touch the stove, feel it and then react....this is understanding of what heat is. Now you KNOW what it is.

I believe this is what sun bear is referring to as being Wisdom.

People learn best on their own mistakes. But people who learn ONLY on their own mistakes, are the biggest fools in this world.

hmmmmm..no one said, ONLY - there are many ways to learn but to have UNDERSTANDING we must experience the experience.

You said it best Haffo when you said, "People learn best on their own mistakes."
Cheers to you buddy 😉

1) What experience has to do with wisdom?

2) The wording in my sentence meant this: Not always people will be able to tell you how exactly things are (notice not "always" which means sometimes they still can) so in such cases the only reliable source leaves is your own personal experience. But that sentence does not mean we cannot gain more understanding or wisdom from others. Perhaps if you would say "we gain more confidence" I would agree. But not understanding.

Haffo, what is your definition of understanding? and, what is your definition of wisdom?

"There are things that I've learned from others, yet I've never experienced them. Sometimes all it takes is to listen."

"Information" and "Knowledge" can be imparted by others to you and U can enhance it by listening hard and reading more. Wisdom is something which comes from acting /experiencing/meditating/introspecting upon those two pillars. Itz produced internally and path to pure wisdom is never going to be easy.

After making some research I've came to conclusion that the confidence in my previous senece is exactly what understanding is.lol

Yes knowledge and experience are different things.

And wisdom comes with understanding.

Understanding is very difficult to share. To shortest way is to allow that person to experience it itself.

"Understanding is very difficult to share. To shortest way is to allow that person to experience it itself."

BINGO!!!!! That is IT Haffo! Right on! I just knew you knew what it was 😉

You're awesome!

"If someone says to me 'that guy over there will shoot you and you are going to die'. I will have a very clear understanding of what that means."

Hi DC - you messer upper! 😉

Really, do you really believe that you can have a CLEAR UNDERSTANDING of being shot up and dying? Can you tell me what it feels like, the whole process? the bullets going into your body? loosing conciousness before passing? can you really share that experience with me?

Most likely what you meant was that you can understand that you do not want to experience because you have seen it before (in the movies, imagination, tv) and you know it will be painful right?

There really is a difference between the two. Only those who have experienced that above mentioned experience can share it from their truth.

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I agree, Sun Bear...not a good name for a kid - how about Moon Tiger? lol