How do Pisces deal with bad news?

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My Pisces (Cancer moon) friend was in an accident and had a front tooth knocked out, he just found out that the procedure to replace it will cost $ $ $ , several surgeries, and he cannot have a fake tooth in place for several months after surgery to allow for proper healing.

He is devastated ... he's a handsome gay man and really into his looks, though I can totally understand not wanting to live with a missing front tooth even if appearance is not all that important to you. Plus, the prospect of 3 or more surgeries and spending thousands of dollars is not what anyone wants to hear. Despite the outward vanity his self-esteem is not too strong.

He told me all this in a very brief message on Facebook. This morning I messaged him back (I'm out of the country) asking if he wants to talk via Skype ... and boy, he is a talker, never one to pass up an opportunity to vent or unload ... but he hasn't responded to me at all, even though I can tell he's been on Facebook since I sent the message.

What to say or do? I feel bad for him, at the same time am a bit worried since he would normally respond right away even if just to say "no thanks, I don't want to talk about it."
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Posted by Nights22
Hmm thats tough. Probably just give him some time. He is probably sulking right now. I would probably do the same. I dont think there is anything you can do per se. Some of us Pisces like to mull over stuff in our heads until we can find enough inner strength to carry on with whatever is going down.



Thanks Nights. Yeah ima give him time. I also wonder if a falling out we had this summer has anything to do with his silence, he may not feel 100 percent safe with me. (I was very blunt with him and called him out on the sh!tty way he was treating his ex who also is a friend of mine. I maayyy have been a bit sarcastic w/ him about his level of vanity). Anyway he normally would not hesitate to call me up and unload, especially if something really bad was going down with him.

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Posted by Nemesis
How do Pisces deal with bad news?


we usually drink a bottle of vodka (or wine) and fail miserably at slitting our wrists (because we are too drunk and fickle)

and then we sulk and brood and hate the whole fucking world.




Hee! I'm pretty sure this is EXACTLY how he is handling it. He's still MIA, I just sent him a brief email telling him he was beautiful and had a great smile no matter what and left it at that. He mentioned NO prosthetic bc he has gum problems and cannot have anything touching or rubbing against the gums in the empty tooth socket area for several MONTHS after surgery. I also think he should go get a second opinion, and see if there is a fake tooth that won't touch his gums, but will have that discussion with him when he comes out of hiding ...
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Aside from whatever else might be going on in this situation.. losing front teeth isn't "bad news".. it's a friggin' catastrophe! And maybe us chicks don't get it, maybe we don't see how damaging it is to a male ego.. to have such a blatant physical defect and you're sure everyone is staring. Especially if it's a guy who has heard all his life what a great SMILE he has (like my Libra!)

I already knew him, we'd known (of) each other for five years though never really hung out or ran with the same crowd. Then I finally responded to his third attempt in six months to ask me out, and things got weird fast. Previously very interested and openly pursing me.. now he hemmed and hawed, was very very vague about us getting together.. now, I'm the type that doesn't have time for silly games and told him he was about to miss his damn shot.. to man up or move on. And I started to swim away *swish* *swish*. He panicked and spent three days trying to convince me to not give up. But I wasn't buying it, wasn't falling for it. I so totally didn't care about whatever ISSUE he was having, shit or get off the pot. And that's when he told me about his missing front teeth.. he was STILL HEALING from having both front teeth knocked out accidentally by a drunken friend a couple weeks before. And he was laid off from work and avoiding the public as much as possible.

I was flabbergasted.. THIS was why he was blowing hot and cold, wishy washy about finally getting a chance to go out with me? I insisted it didn't matter, I just wanted to see how he and I get along together one-on-one. Let me tell you, he was SO freaked out about the idea of going in public, of finally going on a date with me.. without his teeth. Man, it started to sound like complete BS, some line he was giving me.. like he was married or had a gf or some other goofy shit. He insisted it was JUST his teeth.. and reluctantly gave in to meeting me NOW and not waiting several weeks. It was a smashing success, even when he kissed me without his front teeth haha

To me, it was NO big deal. But to him.. the next Monday, he called his dentist to get a "flipper" made, like Dreamer is talking about! Even though he was laid off and money tight, he found $ 300 to get it done, it was THAT important to him. They looked fine, great even. No one can tell his front teeth aren't natural.. but say he has a great smile, he STILL cringes.. cuz to him, it's not HIS smile anymore. Even now, he's sensitive about it.
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Nefer,, that's a sweet story .... aww, poor guy, I'm glad he worked up the nerve to see you minus his front teeth! I know that I wouldn't want to meet someone I was interested in, in real life for the first time, if I considered myself horribly flawed in some way and was so self-conscious about it. Good for him... and good for YOU for assuring him it didn't matter. Also? If my drunken friend knocked out my front teeth, whether accidentally or on purpose, that person would cease to be my friend (unless he/she was willing to spring for my dental bills).

I would be on the "missing tooth, meh, not a big deal" train except last month i crunched down on a hard candy and popped out a crown. It was on the side of my mouth but still, I could not wait to get to the dentist and get it fixed ... I was horrified. So, I get it.

Intrigued ...that's horrible. Lots of healing vibes to that guy... he's the same one who suffered, like, several major losses of family in a short period of time? Motorcycle accidents are scary business. PISCES FISHIES be careful! Lots of bad shit going down in Fishville.

And ... Pisces still has not responded. This is a guy who will complain for half an hour about the unfairness of life if he gets a flat tire or something, so his silence is telling me he is REALLY in a bad place.
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At first glance a person would think this thread is about the accident and how the Pisces would deal with it, in considering it bad news to the ego.


Upon further observation, it becomes clear that the only issue is the OP feeling left out. The bad news in this thread isn't the missing tooth, it's the fact that she can't get him to talk to her, and she's the one feeling missing.


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No matter how many times people are told, they just won't believe it because they themselves cannot relate because they are completely different.


Pisces aren't emotionally dependent upon another ... and since all others are indeed emotionally dependent, they cannot grasp this concept, and it becomes clear in this post once again.


this creator of this thread cannot understand how this Pisces man is able to cope with the dealing of this without being emotionally dependent upon her to help him through this.



::: shrugs :::




And she is so emotionally dependent that she creates a thread to talk about how upsetting it is that he isn't contacting her ..... here she has these feelings, and has no clue where/how to cope with them, and therefore is proclaiming that he is in need of a hug.

Nope, he's not in need of that, she is
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Thanks for all the feedback. I did hear from Mr Pisces who said he has decided not to follow the dentist's recommended course of action which would require surgery to implant a false tooth in his jaw/gums ... but will just go with a purely cosmetic dentures solution which is likely to cause problems when he is older, but he is willing to deal with them when the time comes.

He then forwarded me a very long, dramatic letter he had written to his dentist's office explaining his decision... it actually made me giggle, he was just emoting all over the place ... 99 percent of the population would have written a three-sentence note saying "this is what I have decided" but he had to include every little detail of his decision making process ... oh you Pisces.

I decided to respond by telling him I was glad he was at peace with the decision and, by the way, I was sorry I hurt his feelings last summer when we had our big blowout.

SNAP! Door slammed shut again and I haven't heard from him all day ... I guess I'm going to be getting a long emotional descriptive letter like the dentist did?!
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Posted by iceredrobot
How do Pisces deal with bad news?

Curling into a ball under the duvet always works for me😄 Ouch about your friend though 😢 I'd want someone to let me know they're thinking of me, but without any pressure of me having to do anything.



You know, that seems to be a pretty common thread among all the Pisces that have responded here, and I'm not close with all that many Pisces besides this one, but I've known him for 8 years and have never known him to disappear when he's upset ... it's the opposite! He will TALK TALK TALK to anyone and everyone who will listen ... he'll call, text, update his frigging Facebook and Twitter with every last one of his problems ... (which is the exact opposite of what i do, haha) ... he has NO filter and emotes so much that when he retreated like that, it was truly worrisome. Not being in the country and having the limited channels of communication ... yeah, it had me worried and wondering wtf was going on, has he seriously gone off be reservation?... so thanks for all the reassurance that this truly was a Piscean thing. I guess this was one of the worst things, if not THE worst that's happened to him since I've known him ... so I guess the next time something truly bad happens, I'll be a bit more prepared if he vanishes into thin air.
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Update ... long emotional email from him this morning as predicted and now he is back to his usual talky self, he's updated all his social networks 3 or 4 times each, today, all before noon, sent me a few more emails containing random thoughts and ideas (after his long dramatic one regarding our tiff), got back on Gchat and is all over Facebook commenting on people's stuff ... Swam back to the light in a big way ... boy did you guys call it or what!

He doesn't know what time of day he was born but he MUST have a Gemini rising cause damn that man can TALK.
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How do Pisces deal with bad news?

Curling into a ball under the duvet always works for me😄 Ouch about your friend though 😢 I'd want someone to let me know they're thinking of me, but without any pressure of me having to do anything.



You know, that seems to be a pretty common thread among all the Pisces that have responded here, and I'm not close with all that many Pisces besides this one, but I've known him for 8 years and have never known him to disappear when he's upset ... it's the opposite! He will TALK TALK TALK to anyone and everyone who will listen ... he'll call, text, update his frigging Facebook and Twitter with every last one of his problems ... (which is the exact opposite of what i do, haha) ... he has NO filter and emotes so much that when he retreated like that, it was truly worrisome.



Really? I'm exactly the opposite. It's extremely rare that I reach out for any help when I'm down or depressed. I would rather do it all on my own. If anyone asks me if anything's wrong, I pretty much always say no. I hate showing too much emotion.. and I definitely don't like to bring anyone down with me when I'm down. I'd rather avoid anyone and just keep it all inside. We usually do the opposite of 'seeming emotional'.. we can actually seem pretty cold and detached most of the time. We're all different of course, but I thought most Pisces were that way.
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I'm the same way too ... leave me alone and I will come to you if I want support. When I was married, the only person I would let "in" was my then-husband, even my very best friends and relatives would be kept at bay if something *really* bad was going down. Now, I'm such a loner that I am physically away from most of my support system, but that's ok with me.

I dont know many Pisces but this guy emotes, emotes, emoooootes. I was with him through the other two rough patches in his life over the past few years, the heart attack of his dad (from which he made a full recovery) and death of his cat, both times he called me (and others) immediately ... Maybe he is atypical Pisces, he's a very flamboyant gay man, he loves drama, and to be fair the situation with his cat I was the only
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... Yeesh, got cut off? I was the only other one with him at the time and maybe he only called me in the first place bc he needed someone to physically help him? ... His cat was sick and believe me he LOVED and doted on this cat, spent thousands on her cancer treatment without even batting an eye. So when she was in a bad state and it was time, he called me because he knew what had to be done but couldn't do it. I had to go over there and ended up driving him and the cat to the vet's, and going into the vet's with the cat and "doing the deed" while he stayed in the car. Then I drove him to a bar, dropped him off and he got absolutely shitfaced on gin sours while I went to his apartment and cleared out all of the kitty stuff from his house 😢 And put him to bed that night.

The other time, I had to pick him up at the airport and drive him to the hospital to see his father, and I ended up staying the night with him while we waited on the results of his Dad's surgery.

Maybe the difference was that the other times, he needed someone to physically help him with something related to the bad incident. This time, he had to think it through and consider his options. Now that he has decided on a course of action that he can live with, he is back to his super flamboyant, super gay, super emotive self 🙂



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Intrigued ...that's horrible. Lots of healing vibes to that guy... he's the same one who suffered, like, several major losses of family in a short period of time? Motorcycle accidents are scary business. PISCES FISHIES be careful! Lots of bad shit going down in Fishville.






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Yeah, it's the same guy, it wasn't just in a short period of time, it was in an instant and it was also on Christmas day! Every time I hear more things, the more my heart breaks for him. P-angel and Piranha are right....that's why they seek solitude so much....when life gets overwhelming, they hide away for a while, not wanting visits and avoiding phone calls. That's probably when the are painting like Picasso or building a masterpiece. He knows you care, let him be til he's ready to come out. And back to the guy I talk about in here, his friendship means so much to me though I pursued him so strongly without success. He's such an incredible person and I feel so blessed to have met him and gotten to know him. I don't need to date him to have him in my life and he doesn't "need" me at all. I recently saw a photo of his wife he lost...oh my goodness, what a beauty! Long brown hair, hazel eyes, a bright perfectly straight smile. Her happiness shone on her face. I was told by a friend of his they were always holding hands, kissing, hugging, and showing their love for one another. Such a shame she was taken by a drunk driver, she was young, vibrant and stunning! It's no wonder he is so devastated. He probably feels like...what's the use in dating again, no one can hold a candle to her. She was foreign. They met in medical school. Don't know if I mentioned he is a doctor. She could have been a model. He models too. They look like they were made for each other. I'm too ordinary for him, that's for sure. I think I fell in love with her just from one photo. Poor guy! If I sound jealous to anyone in here I will admit a part of me is envious of what they shared only hoping I will find it someday with someone, that is human nature, but true envy means a discontentment for what another person has or had, which is not how I feel at all. I would give anything to ch
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Mmkay so something is funky with those boards.

Intrigued, that whole situation sounds awful and beyond tragic. I feel terrible for him. Full disclosure, I lost a child in infancy and after he died I was unable physically to see ANYONE except my then-husband, his father. Literally dozens of people were writing, calling, sending flowers and baskets, emailing, leaving messages ... I could not bring myself to communicate with any of them in any way. So I do get it. I hid like you would not believe, and even now seven years later I feel guilty about not acknowledging some of the amazing kindnesses that were shown to me. But at the time, there was just absolutely no way I could let anyone else in.

I do have to say that if and when your Pisces is ready to love again, he would be so lucky to have you. And, if that is truly you in your avatar, you are far from ordinary,

ETA: P-Angel is here? Yeesh, I've blocked her from the get-go, hope she had something positive to contribute 🙂
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Posted by intriguedbypiscesman
"I do have to say that if and when your Pisces is ready to love again, he would be so lucky to have you. And, if that is truly you in your avatar, you are far from ordinary"

Awww, yes it is me and what a kind thing to say. I don't know if he will ever come around. As for now, he only sees me as a friend. If we ever meet, I can only hope and pray there is chemistry between us that he just can't deny himself. I'll know how to love this man with every fiber of my being, that's for sure. I already do. This guy is incredible! I can't give up my hopes, but I'll more than gladly take his friendship. He's been so warm and kind to me. Truly a gem!



God, the thing is it could take yeeeeears. The losses that hit him like that ... you never really "get over" it ... you learn to move on and create a new reality. Of course it is possible to love again, and it could even be that you enter into a new relationship and it CAN be healthy and it CAN be wonderful and it CAN be everything you need it to be for the person you are now. Because that type of tragedy changes you. You're still you, but there is a whole new dimension to you that was not there before the loss. .....

So my point is that when he is finally ready, he will NOT be the same carefree guy who was so happy with that pretty girl he met in med school. The man he has become will need someone with more soul and more depth and more dimension than he once needed in a woman. So, while nobody could replace his lost wife, the likely fact is that the perfect woman for him NOW is not the same as the perfect woman for him THEN.

And, as Nights said ...maybe you are putting more stock into chemistry than he is 🙂 ... a guy's perspective is valuable ... I think you may be underestimating yourself here.
Also, thanks so much for your kind words about my loss. Before it happened, I never could have imagined being able to endure something like that ... it's only when you are in it that you realize you HAVE to endure it, because you have no other choice. And, eventually you do move on with life and you laugh again and you slowly heal. Not forget, but heal. It's the same with your Pisces guy... he has been through so much but believe me when I say that what he wants most in the world is some normalcy, to laugh and be able to rest easy and relax and not be in frigging mourning anymore! So ... Miss I
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What did you mean by my underestimating myself?

... "They were made for each other ... I'm too ordinary ... he may be thinking what's the use in dating again ... "

Why not let HIM decide this things, hmm? Also, as great as his wife was and as perfect as they seemed together, remember there is always more going on under the surface than what appears to outsiders. You may be elevating his marriage to a standard of perfection that is not true. Case in point, the entire world thought me and my e-husband were just the happiest most perfect couple on earth. At times, we were ... But there was a WHOLE lot going on under the surface that nobody could ever have guessed. Many, many people were truly shocked when we split.

Just a few things to think about ...
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....he was healing and on the dating scene and then his sister's death took him right back to that dark place. No one person should ever have to endure all that he has.



My God ... wtf. That poor guy. He must feel like he has a black cloud over him.


Yeah...the first was only two years ago on Christmas day, so he is in a really bad place right now. One month into our meeting, just this past July, he lost her to cancer, he changed after that even from knowing him a month. Now a week before Christmas he wrecks his motorcycle and gets banged up pretty good. He told be he took his sister on trips during the holidays to distract him from what happened to his family. This year he is all alone. He has many friends and has a female friend who is bringing him food and caring for him right now. She's been emailing back and forth with me helping me to fill in the blanks on things that I've wanted to know but have been too painful for him to talk about. He told me the other day when he told me about his bike accident that he feels like God is playing games with him. Man, I just want to hold his heart in my hands and squeeze it tight so he can't get hurt anymore.
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Okay, I will just think about this guy whenever I feel like life is unfair.
I am also out of the country and got bitten by a dog and am bummed about having to have a series of rabies shots ...
Then I come back, see this post and think, hmm, I'll take the rabies shots .......
He's lucky to have that friend and lucky to have you too. No parents or other siblings?
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Posted by intriguedbypiscesman
I'm an animal lover so I feel for the dog and it's head, but it sucks to get bit. I got bit once too and was in the hospital for three days for hand cellulitis and was told I might have hand surgery. It can be scary not knowing what they can carry. No, his mom was in the car too and we haven't touched on his father, at least he avoided that question. It's safe to say he's not in his life. His sister was his only sibling, she was younger, only 30 years old. His wife was in her late 20's by the looks of her. The baby was 5 months old. Wow, I hope I don't upset him by putting this stuff out there provided he ever comes across this site. That bothers me.



I don't think you have a whole lot to worry about ... chances are very unlikely that he will come across this board and these posts. Also, you really have not given any identifying details, just enough to let others know what type of massive losses he has suffered, so that we can better understand his situation personally and how it relates to you.

You can always go back and hide your posts if you are worried. It's thoughtful of you to be so concerned about his privacy ... the Scorpion in me appreciates that very much.

I would be interested in seeing his chart analyzed. I also had a bunch of loss in my lifetime and now that I am delving into my own chart, I am becoming aware that there are several indicators there that point to loss as a major growth factor in my life. It would be easy for me to fall into the trap of being resentful about it but I have to see it as a "tough love" kind of gift from the Universe.

I hope you do get to give him that big hug that he needs. Reading about what he's been through, my heart really hurts for him and I don't even know the guy.
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he ever told me coincides with what his friend tells me. I say this because much of this stuff is so unbelievable. One girl in here thinks he's scamming me. If he was he'd have already slept with me, trust me, he coulda had me easy!







Having you easy doesn't necessarily have to be sex .... he gives you nothing except constant false hope, while you carry on constantly about how much you would give him anything/everything.

He is scamming you, and he does have you quite easy .... he only has to say "boo" and you jump to serve him.




Not every person looking to use another is after sex .... jeeeez
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Posted by intriguedbypiscesman

I've never wanted to make anyone as happy as I want to make him. I wanna lick his wounds and his tears so bad. I cry so much for him.







That much sappiness becomes insufferable ... especially to a Pisces.


You've been in the Fishtank talking about this for a long while ..... the guy is using you, how low do you have to grovel at his feet for you to realize that you're being made a fool?
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::rolls eyes:: is she still here? Just block her, like I did. I learned a long time ago the people who can't (or won't) participate in a discussion without attacking, belittling or name calling have nothing of value to offer me.

You and your Pisces dude probably both need friends at this point, clearly you are way more ready for a relationship than he is ... but even if he never ready or it never happens between you two, a good friendship is a valuable thing.

And, Nights is spot on.
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Please continue to hijack every thread in here to talk about yourself.


In the meantime, I never even spoke about how I feel about your situation ... eventhough, clearly since you are looking for a fight, that's how you perceived what I said.


I was talking from a general point of view .. and never stated my opinion.



Of course, since you want it to mean something else ... you will believe it to be so ... just like you believe that your love for him is genuine, eventhough you're living with a husband and on the rebound.



good luck with that ... and plenty of people will come in here with thier problems, for you to hijack thier threads to talk about yourself .... so not to worry, you'll get more pity
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Having you easy doesn't necessarily have to be sex .... he gives you nothing except constant false hope, while you carry on constantly about how much you would give him anything/everything.

He is scamming you, and he does have you quite easy .... he only has to say "boo" and you jump to serve him.




Not every person looking to use another is after sex .... jeeeez


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That wasn't an attack .... however, believe what you want .. you already do .. one only has to look at your history here to realize that
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Posted by intriguedbypiscesman
My heart is ready but clearly physically and financially I am not. Money is the only reason I've not moved on with my divorce. I ask myself where I go from here and I just don't know. I haven't worked in years because my kids are little and he gets the house. I don't have any of my own family near me to fall back on unless I move away without my kids....not going to happen. I'm scared to death! I've been honest with this Pisces about my situation but it still isn't fair to him and I'm sure it is a factor, as it should be. He's been a good friend, that I will always keep. As for P-angel, she can go phalangy herself.



That's tough. I don't have much advice to give ya, but it is really important that you do get a divorce and move on, for the benefit of everyone involved, your kids included.

The's always a way out, even if it is not apparent to you right now. Maybe talking to an attorney is your best bet ... check locally for pro bono legal advice. There may be resources out there that you were never aware of.

If I could have any feedback at all to offer, it would be set your intentions on DIVORCE and FREEDOM, and not Pisces guy ... he's not ready yet, and you've got business to settle before anything could ever happen between you two anyway.

Everything in its time and place ... right now is the time for you to spring yourself from your marriage 🙂
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You're a cheater .. you don't deserve to be regarded as anything more than a fucking bitch.


How's that for an opinion —



Hopefully your husband finds out and kicks your emotional cheating ass out of the house .. you've said several times in here that the only reason you stay with him is because he pays for you .. that makes you a whore on top of it.


That's all you deserve .. you certaintly don't deserve respect .. you're a fucking cheater.