Pisces and Babies

Pisces Swordfish wants a baby.

This topic has come up several times and is causing me a lot of anxiety. He doesn't have access to his child and I know this kills him because being a father is very important to him. He's also quite a bit older than me and admits that this is a factor in why his priorities are turning more towards family.

I don't want to have a baby, but my reasons are varied and I can change my mind... plus I love kids.

My question is... how realistic is this request? I'm having a hard time gaging if this is something that is nice to dream about but in reality may not be such a good idea, or if this is something that will always eat away at him?

I ask this because I went to a surprise 25th Anniversary party for this couple (both Pisces with no kids) last Father's Day. I don't know who decided to give a Pisces couple a surprise party, since in my observations surprises DO NOT go over well with Fish... Anyway, the male was not happy about the event, in fact he was devastated! But the reason why he was devastated was because he couldn't understand why people would be spending father's day celebrating him when they should all be with their children. His wife was the one who didn't want children and he said he was ok with it. Turns out he has always secretly wanted kids but suppressed his desires to be with her. The whole event was a mess and everyone left feeling like they witnessed some deep rooted pain. Or... that's how I felt anyway.

So Pisces people, could you please tell me how important having children is for you? If you do want them, are you determined to make it happen or are you comfortable just dreaming about it?

Pisces are perfectly comfortable dreaming any aspect of life away.


First of all, the couple you talked about ... you have no idea about how they felt being childless .. you speculated how you thought they might feel, had it been your experience.

And no, Pisces do not like surprises when it comes to crowds of people invading our privacy.



To topic ... in the same train of thought in which you mentioned he wants a baby, you also said that he can't see the child he has. Sounds to me like he's trying to fill dejected feelings with a replacement .... that will only lead to more dejection because the feelings are misplaced.

You said you don't want kids ... if you don't want kids, then the topic should remain closed until you feel like you do.

Thanks for your comments and hello to Nights22!

Posted by P-Angel


To topic ... in the same train of thought in which you mentioned he wants a baby, you also said that he can't see the child he has. Sounds to me like he's trying to fill dejected feelings with a replacement .... that will only lead to more dejection because the feelings are misplaced.

You said you don't want kids ... if you don't want kids, then the topic should remain closed until you feel like you do.

This is what I'm feeling too... The situation with his child is sticky. My thoughts are to fight to get your child and I'll love her like she is my own. I do have kids and he is very, very loving towards them... I just don't want to have anymore.

Posted by Nights22

Posted by shellshocker
Thanks for your comments and hello to Nights22!

Posted by P-Angel


To topic ... in the same train of thought in which you mentioned he wants a baby, you also said that he can't see the child he has. Sounds to me like he's trying to fill dejected feelings with a replacement .... that will only lead to more dejection because the feelings are misplaced.

You said you don't want kids ... if you don't want kids, then the topic should remain closed until you feel like you do.

This is what I'm feeling too... The situation with his child is sticky. My thoughts are to fight to get your child and I'll love her like she is my own. I do have kids and he is very, very loving towards them... I just don't want to have anymore.

Hello there yo

Does he fight to get is child?

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ya, baby mamma said she was going home for a vacation and never came back. aquarius...

Three out of four of my children (the two Taus and the Aries) have key Pisces planets in their charts, like Moon and Mercury and Mars... and they've always felt "understood" by me.. have commented that their friends can't/don't relate to their parents like mine do to me. No one (not even them) pretends I'm perfect, but they honestly feel understood and accepted by me. I'm their greatest ally, their biggest fan, and love them more than anything in the world.

An example... Today, the Aries received an award at school.. a State of Michigan award for academic excellence.. and was also given a new iPad 2! He's TOTALLY stoked, and when the Principal asked if he'd like me to take the iPad back home with me, the Aries asked me if he could please keep it with him for the last hour of school, to show his friends. I smiled and said, "Certainly.. it's yours, you earned it!".. and that 16 year old teenage Aries boy turned to me in a room full of strangers and school officials and said, "I earned it because of YOU, Mom. YOU earned it. YOU made me what I am." ..And I watched eyes get big and mouths drop open. I just smiled with a tight throat and said, "Sure, sweetie.. show your friends. I'll see you after school." And he hugged and kissed me in front of everyone.


I love and respect my Mom, no doubt.. but it was not easy being a Pisces raised by a Virgo, and my one saving grace there was probably my Taurus Moon/Mars. Rather like my youngest son, a Leo with a chart FULL of Fire.. ALL Leo except a Sag Moon and a Scorp Mars. Kid's got WAY too much Leo in him to be legal... and no, HE doesn't feel as understood by me. Loved and accepted, yes. Understood, no. We're way too different.

Well, it's sure not easy on my LEO son to have a Pisces Mom! Bet he'd rather I was a Sag - or a Leo, like my sisters. haha

Then you get.. A DIRTY DICK o.O


(Did I say that aloud?)

I love children, and want 5 myself someday.

Back to topic...

Questions for you, Shellster:

1.) How long have you been together?

2.) Do you guys love each other?

3.) Have you discussed getting married and buying a house? This kind of thing is ideal for the baby.

Feel free to send me a PM with your answers if you don't want to discuss in public.

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Posted by shellshocker

So Pisces people, could you please tell me how important having children is for you? If you do want them, are you determined to make it happen or are you comfortable just dreaming about it?

Personally? Having children isn't that important to me... I don't care to live a 'normal', 9-5 life. I don't want to get married, get a job, have kids, buy a nice house in the suburbs, and then mow my lawn and enjoy it, crap lol😛 Do I love kids? Yes. But do I necessarily need to have some myself? No. I wouln't mind living the rest of my life without a kid. Because they limit you. They make you face reality. And I want to live in my dreams...

^If I ever do end up having a kid, I want him/her to be a Pisces like me 🙂🙂

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Yes, the extremes in parenting are a bit frightening. Those who adjust their whole life for the kids and try to achieve the picture perfect, suburban image of the 'normal family'. Yuck! Equally terrifying is the opposite end of the spectrum, where some carry on with their lives as if children change nothing. I like to strap my kids on and take them with me, or let one of the 'villagers' tend them while I'm off on more adult adventures. 😉

Posted by ianthepisces
Having a pisces parent or sibling dont make it easy...
And thats what it is..

My ex Aqua's parents are both Pisces. His childhood was great in the fact they were always doing something cool. Sports, road trips, camping, traveling to other countries. They are some of the most generous and kind people you will ever meet.

However, when it came to facing reality and fostering their kids emotions, they had difficulty. Outside abuse issues weren't addressed, boundaries and limitations were not enforced during the teen years and he was kinda left to fend for himself emotionally. Also, my ex really can't take care of the basics himself like cooking, paying bills, laundry, etc. Maybe he can, and just doesn't want to. When we broke up he went back to live with Mom and Dad and he's STILL there!

Posted by Scubafish

3.) Have you discussed getting married and buying a house? This kind of thing is ideal for the baby.
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Scubs, this question almost made me break out in hives!! Too much reality!!! Must run away.... 🙂

Parenting is overrated. Stay free!

So after this Pisces brings up kids, YET AGAIN, I tell him how I feel and I'm met with dead silence. dead. Ookkk.... let's move on to another topic, shall we?

Now, he's gone MIA! Not that I'm surprised really... I hope he stays in hiding for a bit because all I want to do right now is kick him in the balls! hahaha! Visualizing it is bringing me great satisfaction. 🙂

I'm just ranting... I guess he's been trying to get a response out of me for awhile now and it took me forever to verbalize... so I can in turn give him sometime to wrap his head around my comments. Still a bit of a pisser, tho.

Posted by shellshocker
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So Pisces people, could you please tell me how important having children is for you? If you do want them, are you determined to make it happen or are you comfortable just dreaming about it?

I am very determined, I know I will not sleep anymore but doesnt matter.

Posted by Nights22
Is this baby thing a deal breaker for him?

That's what I'd like to know! I didn't really say if I wanted a baby or not, I just talked about his daughter and how wonderful it would be to have her around... since it's probably a good idea to figure out how you feel about an existing child before adding another one to the population.

I would've loved to have discussed it more but that was not going to happen. 😢

Posted by shellshocker

I would've loved to have discussed it more but that was not going to happen.

Why isn't that going to happen?

only a week... but I swear I saw him driving close to my house yesterday. stalking is somewhat normal for him

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by shellshocker

I would've loved to have discussed it more but that was not going to happen.

Why isn't that going to happen?

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It may very well happen, but it wasn't going to happen at that time.

Posted by Nights22
and he doesnt answer phone calls?

no, not from anyone. i've never seen him answer his phone actually... he just looks at it when it rings. I get texts.

^^ lol! seems to be the existing theme... idk!

This is too funny not to update!

So the Pisces has resurfaced... and has moved two blocks away from me! I find out via friends first. He texts me to come meet him at this address, casually mentions it's his new place and continues on like nothing has happened!

Now... is he crazy for doing this or am I crazy for not being fazed by it?

Posted by shellshocker


Now... is he crazy for doing this or am I crazy for not being fazed by it?

Shellster,

You are both water signs.

😉

🙂

Posted by PiscesPosterBoy

Posted by shellshocker

So Pisces people, could you please tell me how important having children is for you? If you do want them, are you determined to make it happen or are you comfortable just dreaming about it?

Well if I want something, I'm determined to have it regardless of what it is. 🙂 Especially if its something as big as kids 🙂

Personally? Having children isn't that important to me... I don't care to live a 'normal', 9-5 life. I don't want to get married, get a job, have kids, buy a nice house in the suburbs, and then mow my lawn and enjoy it, crap lol😛 Do I love kids? Yes. But do I necessarily need to have some myself? No. I wouln't mind living the rest of my life without a kid. Because they limit you. They make you face reality. And I want to live in my dreams...

^If I ever do end up having a kid, I want him/her to be a Pisces like me 🙂🙂

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I couldn't agree more, having children is ridiculously overrated. I knew I didn't want kids when I was younger, but figured I'd probably change my mind, if not actually have one or two by the time I was 30. Now that I am 30, I've all but ruled out the possibility of having kids and want them even less now than I did back then. Much of that is due to witnessing how obsessive parents seem to get these days (i.e. fighting at little league games) and knowing far too many once-interesting people suddenly not know how to talk about anything but their kids. I can't even look at people who lead lives like you described without thinking I'd rather be dead than be like them. What's the point of living when you sacrifice everything that allows you to be your own person?