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Pisces female friend is upset with me
About three weeks ago, a guy came into the gym that was eyeing her and made an attempt at approaching her. She came to me and asked me to walk her to her car because she was scared. So I did, and later that night, we were talking about it on the phone and she said she would have to stop going to that gym for a while so that he would get the hint that she wasn't interested in him. In an attempt to calm her down, I told her that as long as I was there, she wouldn't have to worry about it because I would make sure he didn't bother her. Her response was "Well I appreciate that, but I'm a big girl, I can take care of myself" [Again, typical Pisces 😉 ] So she didn't go to the gym for a few nights, and so I called her up one night and asked her if she would want to go running the next day when I got off work. Her response was "Nope, not gonna happen ??_ I can't commit to a time." Well, that irritated me instantly, so instead of saying "Ok, that's cool", I kept on and on and on trying to talk her into it, and she finally said "No, it's NOT going to happen!"
The next day, I didn't hear from her at all, and so I sent a text apologizing for being pushy. My apology wasn't even acknowledged. The next day, Sunday, I see her at the gym, and she initiates conversation with me, but is extremely short and rude. She was definitely not being her normal self. So as she was leaving, she waved goodbye, and before she could leave, I asked her what was bothering her. She said "Nothing, I'm fine. Bye." Well, every day at work that week, she would smile or wave as she passed by my desk, but any time I tried to approach her and talk to her, she was very rude and short. What confused me about her actions, though, was that she was still parking next to me every day. Midway through the week, I sent her a text saying "Been a few days since we've talked, just wanted to say what's up!", which also was never acknowledged. So I asked our mutual friend if she knew what was bothering my friend. She said that my friend had told her that she and I were kind of going through something right now, that I crossed the line with my pushiness, and that I think there's more to our relationship than what's really there, so she's had to be cold and distance herself from me to get me to back off. Keep in mind, this is coming from the woman that parks next to me every day so she can be close to me, texts me every night before we go to bed, etc. AND, if she's really trying to distan
The next day, I didn't hear from her at all, and so I sent a text apologizing for being pushy. My apology wasn't even acknowledged. The next day, Sunday, I see her at the gym, and she initiates conversation with me, but is extremely short and rude. She was definitely not being her normal self. So as she was leaving, she waved goodbye, and before she could leave, I asked her what was bothering her. She said "Nothing, I'm fine. Bye." Well, every day at work that week, she would smile or wave as she passed by my desk, but any time I tried to approach her and talk to her, she was very rude and short. What confused me about her actions, though, was that she was still parking next to me every day. Midway through the week, I sent her a text saying "Been a few days since we've talked, just wanted to say what's up!", which also was never acknowledged. So I asked our mutual friend if she knew what was bothering my friend. She said that my friend had told her that she and I were kind of going through something right now, that I crossed the line with my pushiness, and that I think there's more to our relationship than what's really there, so she's had to be cold and distance herself from me to get me to back off. Keep in mind, this is coming from the woman that parks next to me every day so she can be close to me, texts me every night before we go to bed, etc. AND, if she's really trying to distan
This all started two weeks ago. The last time I saw her was this past Tuesday morning, and she smiled like a Cheshire cat as she walked by and said "Hello there!". Later that day, she left for vacation and has been gone since. She will be back tomorrow.
So what do I do now? I've backed off completely, but have still been friendly, as when she smiles/waves, I reciprocate, but I haven't approached her/tried talking to her in over a week. Is she waiting on me to make a formal apology in person? Also, our mutual friend told me that she and her boyfriend, or whatever he is, have been having some trouble lately, so could that be another reason why she's backed off so suddenly? How should I handle this? Continue to leave her alone, but reciprocate her friendly actions? Or should I approach her and give my sincere apologies for my actions, then back off again?
So what do I do now? I've backed off completely, but have still been friendly, as when she smiles/waves, I reciprocate, but I haven't approached her/tried talking to her in over a week. Is she waiting on me to make a formal apology in person? Also, our mutual friend told me that she and her boyfriend, or whatever he is, have been having some trouble lately, so could that be another reason why she's backed off so suddenly? How should I handle this? Continue to leave her alone, but reciprocate her friendly actions? Or should I approach her and give my sincere apologies for my actions, then back off again?
She sounds like trouble. Cut her out and leave her there. Change parking spaces if necessary.
And on behalf of the fishes who don't pull crap like that, sorry.
And on behalf of the fishes who don't pull crap like that, sorry.
Thanks for your replies, guys! So just for my own peace of mind, does anyone think I crossed the line? Have I done anything to deserve this treatment?
I ask because I have several pisces friends, both male and female, and I know that they can get cold when angry ... but I thought this case was extreme.
Have I done anything to deserve this treatment?
I'm inclined to say no.
No offence to any of my fellow fishies, BUT we can be quite adept at this kind of behaviour.
and I know that they can get cold when angry ... but I thought this case was extreme.
...and i'd say what you described is more a factor of a user than someone who is angry. I doubt your the first, and that you'll be the last.
You don't have to deal with her anymore. She'll have to deal with her for the rest of her life however.
Maybe find yourself a nice Taurus lady :-?
Posted by michaelfishand I know that they can get cold when angry ... but I thought this case was extreme.
...and i'd say what you described is more a factor of a user than someone who is angry.click to expand
This reminds me ... I forgot to mention that she told our mutual friend that she "can tell it's killing me that she's been acting this way." I thought that was a bit of a self-absorbed thing of her to say.
And two, if she was so worried about me getting close or getting the wrong idea, how about saying "I have a boyfriend." The end. We could have still been friends.
I guess I've got a different take than the consensus here. Maybe I identify more with the Pisces girl. And I've certainly had my "friendliness" misconstrued by a guy who was WAY more interested.
I personally feel that she's tried to maintain a friendship with this Virgo guy. He's attracted to her, so he's reading into everything she does.. smiling, looking at him, looking away, blushing? Parking near him? (I'd certainly park near a friend, if I could.. these are dangerous times!).. yet, he's not HEARING her... Pisces aren't known for idle chatter, and it's hard to let people in.. if they're moved to say something about their feelings and what they want or don't want.. listen to it. She's SAID they should remain friends ("while they still work together" sounds to me like softening the blow, so he doesn't take it personally).. they talk, they text, they go to the gym.. friendly stuff.. she's not meeting him for drinks and rubbing his leg and then pleading a headache... she's not making out with him then saying she can't date him... I haven't seen ANYTHING that says straight up "flirting".. but my extensive experience with Virgo men has shown me that they often "read into" a situation like this, esp when they really like the girl.. probably because THEY wouldn't do these sort of things with a FRIEND.. esp if they had an on again/off again relationship with someone else. She's not talking about her (troubled) relationship with her sorta bf.. cuz she doesn't want to go there with him, it's TOO personal, TOO private (I'm a big girl and can take care of myself!)... Pisces can be very private.. and though others know about the guy.. I can almost guarantee her private Pisces nature makes her NOT willing to discuss details with much of ANYONE, but ESP not some nice Virgo guy from her work/gym. (Reminds me of this Sag guy I know.. we were friends, until he got too pushy.. I tried to stay friends, but he said I was "playing" with him.. and yeah, one of the complaints was that my FB said I was in a relationship, but I never TALKED about my man to the Sag.. so he took that to mean I was interested, despite my telling him that I just feel friendly toward him, and NEVER talking romantically with him. It got ugly.. and I had to end all contact. He occasionally texts me even now.. and no, I do not answer. If that makes me a bitch, I own that... but he would not back off, and I have NO desire to encourage him to continue.)
I personally feel that she's tried to maintain a friendship with this Virgo guy. He's attracted to her, so he's reading into everything she does.. smiling, looking at him, looking away, blushing? Parking near him? (I'd certainly park near a friend, if I could.. these are dangerous times!).. yet, he's not HEARING her... Pisces aren't known for idle chatter, and it's hard to let people in.. if they're moved to say something about their feelings and what they want or don't want.. listen to it. She's SAID they should remain friends ("while they still work together" sounds to me like softening the blow, so he doesn't take it personally).. they talk, they text, they go to the gym.. friendly stuff.. she's not meeting him for drinks and rubbing his leg and then pleading a headache... she's not making out with him then saying she can't date him... I haven't seen ANYTHING that says straight up "flirting".. but my extensive experience with Virgo men has shown me that they often "read into" a situation like this, esp when they really like the girl.. probably because THEY wouldn't do these sort of things with a FRIEND.. esp if they had an on again/off again relationship with someone else. She's not talking about her (troubled) relationship with her sorta bf.. cuz she doesn't want to go there with him, it's TOO personal, TOO private (I'm a big girl and can take care of myself!)... Pisces can be very private.. and though others know about the guy.. I can almost guarantee her private Pisces nature makes her NOT willing to discuss details with much of ANYONE, but ESP not some nice Virgo guy from her work/gym. (Reminds me of this Sag guy I know.. we were friends, until he got too pushy.. I tried to stay friends, but he said I was "playing" with him.. and yeah, one of the complaints was that my FB said I was in a relationship, but I never TALKED about my man to the Sag.. so he took that to mean I was interested, despite my telling him that I just feel friendly toward him, and NEVER talking romantically with him. It got ugly.. and I had to end all contact. He occasionally texts me even now.. and no, I do not answer. If that makes me a bitch, I own that... but he would not back off, and I have NO desire to encourage him to continue.)
I asked her what was bothering her. She said "Nothing, I'm fine. Bye."
She doesn't "need" your help with any of it, and she DOESN'T want to talk about it. Thank you for caring, though.
Well, every day at work that week, she would smile or wave as she passed by my desk,
Still being friendly, TRYING to maintain a friendship AND some distance.
but any time I tried to approach her and talk to her, she was very rude and short.
You're still chasing her, dude.. backed into a corner, Pisces swim.
What confused me about her actions, though, was that she was still parking next to me every day.
Still friendly, still PARKING next to a friend!
Midway through the week, I sent her a text saying "Been a few days since we've talked, just wanted to say what's up!", which also was never acknowledged.
Also typical Pisces to ignore the phone.. but esp when she's feeling pressured or chased or pushed by someone, esp when we realize they're far more interested in us than we are in them. We don't like HURTING people.
So I asked our mutual friend if she knew what was bothering my friend. She said that my friend had told her that she and I were kind of going through something right now, that I crossed the line with my pushiness, and that I think there's more to our relationship than what's really there, so she's had to be cold and distance herself from me to get me to back off.
Bingo. Why are you ignoring this, and instead, focusing on:
Keep in mind, this is coming from the woman that parks next to me every day so she can be close to me, texts me every night before we go to bed, etc.
She's trying to stay friendly, but you keep making her uncomfortable and keep misconstruing her friendliness to mean more than that. I get it, I do.. you like her. But she's still got a man, and even if it's a crappy back and forth relationship.. Pisces tend to FINISH one relationship before starting another... and besides that.. she's still just trying to be your FRIEND.
So what do you want here? Friendship with a girl who ISN'T interested in more? Then back off a bit, she's feeling smothered and cornered by your romantic interest in her.
You want a relationship with her? First, you'll have to WAIT until she's FINISHED with the other guy - until a Pisces is DONE, they aren't DONE, no matter HOW bad things get. But in the meantime, you WILL have to back off a bit.
"Continue to leave her alone, but reciprocate her friendly actions?" Yes. And get a gf.
She doesn't "need" your help with any of it, and she DOESN'T want to talk about it. Thank you for caring, though.
Well, every day at work that week, she would smile or wave as she passed by my desk,
Still being friendly, TRYING to maintain a friendship AND some distance.
but any time I tried to approach her and talk to her, she was very rude and short.
You're still chasing her, dude.. backed into a corner, Pisces swim.
What confused me about her actions, though, was that she was still parking next to me every day.
Still friendly, still PARKING next to a friend!
Midway through the week, I sent her a text saying "Been a few days since we've talked, just wanted to say what's up!", which also was never acknowledged.
Also typical Pisces to ignore the phone.. but esp when she's feeling pressured or chased or pushed by someone, esp when we realize they're far more interested in us than we are in them. We don't like HURTING people.
So I asked our mutual friend if she knew what was bothering my friend. She said that my friend had told her that she and I were kind of going through something right now, that I crossed the line with my pushiness, and that I think there's more to our relationship than what's really there, so she's had to be cold and distance herself from me to get me to back off.
Bingo. Why are you ignoring this, and instead, focusing on:
Keep in mind, this is coming from the woman that parks next to me every day so she can be close to me, texts me every night before we go to bed, etc.
She's trying to stay friendly, but you keep making her uncomfortable and keep misconstruing her friendliness to mean more than that. I get it, I do.. you like her. But she's still got a man, and even if it's a crappy back and forth relationship.. Pisces tend to FINISH one relationship before starting another... and besides that.. she's still just trying to be your FRIEND.
So what do you want here? Friendship with a girl who ISN'T interested in more? Then back off a bit, she's feeling smothered and cornered by your romantic interest in her.
You want a relationship with her? First, you'll have to WAIT until she's FINISHED with the other guy - until a Pisces is DONE, they aren't DONE, no matter HOW bad things get. But in the meantime, you WILL have to back off a bit.
"Continue to leave her alone, but reciprocate her friendly actions?" Yes. And get a gf.
Mmm something else.. to try to clarify your confusion...
So she didn't go to the gym for a few nights, and so I called her up one night and asked her if she would want to go running the next day when I got off work. Her response was "Nope, not gonna happen ??_ I can't commit to a time." Well, that irritated me instantly, so instead of saying "Ok, that's cool", I kept on and on and on trying to talk her into it, and she finally said "No, it's NOT going to happen!"
Okay... re-reading your posts.. you only SEE this girl at WORK and at the GYM. You TALK and TEXT and PARK together... but you do not SEE each other socially. Then.. a situation happened where she stopped going to the gym for a few days.. and you decided to ask her to go running with you... yeah.. together.. not work or gym.. more like a private one-on-one thing.. THAT'S what made her balk.. THAT'S what made her feel pushed, likely because it's "crossing the line" and not exactly still "friendly".. it's too close, too personal.. and she DOES still have a man.. work and gym and parking.. and even talking and texting.. that's okay.. that's FRIEND stuff.. going running with a guy (esp one who has expressed interest in you, but you THOUGHT you'd mutually decided that "romance" was off the table).. THAT'S crossing the line.. THAT'S no longer "just friendly".. that would be INAPPROPRIATE for her to do, when she's got this other guy.
OMG.. and you pushed SO HARD on it, you ADMIT you got irritated and pushy, refusing to take no for an answer... She didn't WANT to do anything on a more PERSONAL level with you (like going running together).. and you keep trying to push the edges of the friendship, making her balk. Honestly, I am stunned she's still talking to you, and hasn't written your whole friendship off.. because you are not RESPECTING her boundaries and wishes for friendship, that makes the friendship EXPENDABLE.
The tracks are broken up ahead.. you're about to get derailed, if you don't slam the brakes NOW!
So she didn't go to the gym for a few nights, and so I called her up one night and asked her if she would want to go running the next day when I got off work. Her response was "Nope, not gonna happen ??_ I can't commit to a time." Well, that irritated me instantly, so instead of saying "Ok, that's cool", I kept on and on and on trying to talk her into it, and she finally said "No, it's NOT going to happen!"
Okay... re-reading your posts.. you only SEE this girl at WORK and at the GYM. You TALK and TEXT and PARK together... but you do not SEE each other socially. Then.. a situation happened where she stopped going to the gym for a few days.. and you decided to ask her to go running with you... yeah.. together.. not work or gym.. more like a private one-on-one thing.. THAT'S what made her balk.. THAT'S what made her feel pushed, likely because it's "crossing the line" and not exactly still "friendly".. it's too close, too personal.. and she DOES still have a man.. work and gym and parking.. and even talking and texting.. that's okay.. that's FRIEND stuff.. going running with a guy (esp one who has expressed interest in you, but you THOUGHT you'd mutually decided that "romance" was off the table).. THAT'S crossing the line.. THAT'S no longer "just friendly".. that would be INAPPROPRIATE for her to do, when she's got this other guy.
OMG.. and you pushed SO HARD on it, you ADMIT you got irritated and pushy, refusing to take no for an answer... She didn't WANT to do anything on a more PERSONAL level with you (like going running together).. and you keep trying to push the edges of the friendship, making her balk. Honestly, I am stunned she's still talking to you, and hasn't written your whole friendship off.. because you are not RESPECTING her boundaries and wishes for friendship, that makes the friendship EXPENDABLE.
The tracks are broken up ahead.. you're about to get derailed, if you don't slam the brakes NOW!
And no, DON'T apologize for being pushy AGAIN.
The BEST apology to a Pisces to to actually BE so genuinely sorry that you DON'T DO IT AGAIN.
She SAW your apology.. she knows you SAY you're sorry...
Now PROVE you actually MEAN it by respecting her boundaries for this friendship, and BACK OFF.
Anything else is just lip service.. and Pisces HATE lip service.
The BEST apology to a Pisces to to actually BE so genuinely sorry that you DON'T DO IT AGAIN.
She SAW your apology.. she knows you SAY you're sorry...
Now PROVE you actually MEAN it by respecting her boundaries for this friendship, and BACK OFF.
Anything else is just lip service.. and Pisces HATE lip service.
Oh, e3, hon.. I'm not saying he SHOULD wait around for her. Hell no, and I TOLD him to get a girlfriend cuz I hope he actually MOVES ON from this girl. But if he WANTS to stick it out for this girl and hold onto hope, nothing we say is going to stop him from that. But if that's what he ultimately wants, he's about to bork it badly.
It makes me feel sad that some people think wanting a friendship means she's looking for some kind of ego boost or to play games.. (and I've seen NOTHING straight up flirting or romantic from her.. all I see is her maintaining a friendship that DOES NOT include personal one-on-one time, not even "friendly" or "hanging out" dates.. she's NOT leading him on.)
I'd believe it was ego boost and her using him for her own selfish ego.. IF she were doing all that romantic, personal stuff with him.. but work, gym, text, phone? That's not romantic.. in their three years of working together, gym together, she won't even go RUNNING with him? That's not a girl who's leading a guy on.
It makes me feel sad that some people think wanting a friendship means she's looking for some kind of ego boost or to play games.. (and I've seen NOTHING straight up flirting or romantic from her.. all I see is her maintaining a friendship that DOES NOT include personal one-on-one time, not even "friendly" or "hanging out" dates.. she's NOT leading him on.)
I'd believe it was ego boost and her using him for her own selfish ego.. IF she were doing all that romantic, personal stuff with him.. but work, gym, text, phone? That's not romantic.. in their three years of working together, gym together, she won't even go RUNNING with him? That's not a girl who's leading a guy on.
I don't understand the question, I guess.
She's been honest.. He said three months ago, the whole "romantic" angle came up... they mutually decided that dating was off the table .. this whole blow up happened in the last two weeks, and he's IGNORING that she's backing off from all of his "chasing" and "advances".. ignoring what she's saying and concentrating on the fact that she's still doing most of the things she ALWAYS did (hi at work, smiling, parking by him, texting.. though he admits she ignores his texts at times).. yes, she's still doing the same things she's ALWAYS done in friendship with him, and STILL not going out with him or having private face-to-face meetings.. but since she's continuing, HE'S continuing thinking it means more... it's like he's NOT going to understand that she doesn't want more than friendship.. until she throws away the friendship to prove it!
And that's coming, mark my words.
She's been honest.. He said three months ago, the whole "romantic" angle came up... they mutually decided that dating was off the table .. this whole blow up happened in the last two weeks, and he's IGNORING that she's backing off from all of his "chasing" and "advances".. ignoring what she's saying and concentrating on the fact that she's still doing most of the things she ALWAYS did (hi at work, smiling, parking by him, texting.. though he admits she ignores his texts at times).. yes, she's still doing the same things she's ALWAYS done in friendship with him, and STILL not going out with him or having private face-to-face meetings.. but since she's continuing, HE'S continuing thinking it means more... it's like he's NOT going to understand that she doesn't want more than friendship.. until she throws away the friendship to prove it!
And that's coming, mark my words.
Hi Nefer, thanks for all of your input. I totally see how all of that makes sense, and you're right, I guess I have been ignoring all of those things. I do have a few things to say to defend myself with SOME of it, though ... there are some things I tried to leave out due to the original topic being so lengthy:
1. When we mutually agreed to not be more than friends as long as we worked together, it was due to the fact that she's high up. Not like VP or anything, but she's high up enough that she would probably be demoted (I'm not high up, so I would probably just be fired) if we were dating. This was the concentration of our agreement. Once I got another job, even if it's at the same company, just in a different unit, then we could see where things would go.
2. Our mutual friend has straight up asked her more than once we why don't just go ahead and date, and her answer is always "I can't because we work together." She's talking to her girl friend, not me, so why wouldn't she just say "I'm not interested in him like that" or "I'm only interested in friendship with him."?
3. I understand that talking about her boyfriend would be too personal, but keep this in mind: she talks openly about him to people that she's merely acquaintances with, AND don't you think that in the year that we've been talking every single day, he would have come up at least once in conversation? Once? Even a simple "My boyfriend and I went ...... yesterday." If I truly care about someone, I talk about them from time to time, no matter how personal the matter.
4. She's done many more things other than just smiling, waving, blushing, etc. She's asked me to do stuff before, like running, swimming, etc., but there have always been schedule conflicts. We have done things before, one-on-one, it's not like this was the first time I ever asked her to do anything. To top all of this off, before we ever had our talk, she straight up invited herself over to my new place, knowing that ALL I had at the time was a bed. THIS self-invitation is what led to MY bringing up the issue of to date or not to date while we still worked together.
1. When we mutually agreed to not be more than friends as long as we worked together, it was due to the fact that she's high up. Not like VP or anything, but she's high up enough that she would probably be demoted (I'm not high up, so I would probably just be fired) if we were dating. This was the concentration of our agreement. Once I got another job, even if it's at the same company, just in a different unit, then we could see where things would go.
2. Our mutual friend has straight up asked her more than once we why don't just go ahead and date, and her answer is always "I can't because we work together." She's talking to her girl friend, not me, so why wouldn't she just say "I'm not interested in him like that" or "I'm only interested in friendship with him."?
3. I understand that talking about her boyfriend would be too personal, but keep this in mind: she talks openly about him to people that she's merely acquaintances with, AND don't you think that in the year that we've been talking every single day, he would have come up at least once in conversation? Once? Even a simple "My boyfriend and I went ...... yesterday." If I truly care about someone, I talk about them from time to time, no matter how personal the matter.
4. She's done many more things other than just smiling, waving, blushing, etc. She's asked me to do stuff before, like running, swimming, etc., but there have always been schedule conflicts. We have done things before, one-on-one, it's not like this was the first time I ever asked her to do anything. To top all of this off, before we ever had our talk, she straight up invited herself over to my new place, knowing that ALL I had at the time was a bed. THIS self-invitation is what led to MY bringing up the issue of to date or not to date while we still worked together.
Having said all of that, I do see what you're saying, Nefer.
When are you going to tell us the other side of the situation .... because thus far you've described a player woman and her attention-whore antics while the VIRGO remained calm and composed?
Yeah, not in a million ....
Yeah, not in a million ....
Fair enough, 808. And you must admit, the way it reads.. flip the genders around, and people would be saying, "Hey, girl.. he's just not that into you! That's not really FLIRTY stuff, you're just seeing what you WANT to see!" or maybe, "You work together and he's trying to be your friend, and pulling away when you try to push and get closer.. take the hint, you're coming off desperate and clingy and pushy and it's a turn off! He already told you he can't date you.. and told your friend he's trying to put distance between you two and get you to back off!"
I'm not saying there's NO way she likes you.. but she's still emotionally tangled in this other guy, and clearly has limits about how far she'll go or how close she'll get with you. And regardless of how many people she talks to about this bf of hers (for example - I reveal A LOT about myself on here, with people I'm not close to, and whose opinions don't really MATTER that much to me).. you keep thinking her not talking to YOU about it means the opposite of what it probably does... maybe cuz when a GUY doesn't talk about another GIRL with a woman, that's cuz he's interested and doesn't want to push her away. But if *I* (as a Pisces) were to avoid discussing my personal relationship issues with a guy (uhh.. like the Sag).. it's cuz I don't want to get that personal, I don't want to answer questions about it, I don't want to have to explain my (crappy?) relationship, and I don't want him getting any ideas about how he can be so much "better" for me and start to tell me so, and tell me to leave my bf. I don't want to discuss relationship stuff with a FRIEND, esp one who obviously likes me a little TOO much.
And "we work together" STILL sounds to me like softening the blow (mind you, it IS a valid reason, and a logical one, and one that does NOT involve revealing private internal feelings).. maybe because if I liked a guy I worked with, and it became obvious he wanted more than I did.. I could imagine myself picking the most diplomatic, general, non-personal reason why it can't work. Add a kinda-sorta bf I've had a difficult relationship with for the past three years, and I certainly wouldn't be feeling emotionally available to be more than friends with even a VERY nice and attractive guy from work. Also.. the "work thing" hasn't changed.. you still work together.. why would you convince yourself that three months later it's not a valid reason to her anymore, and keep pushing?
I'm not saying there's NO way she likes you.. but she's still emotionally tangled in this other guy, and clearly has limits about how far she'll go or how close she'll get with you. And regardless of how many people she talks to about this bf of hers (for example - I reveal A LOT about myself on here, with people I'm not close to, and whose opinions don't really MATTER that much to me).. you keep thinking her not talking to YOU about it means the opposite of what it probably does... maybe cuz when a GUY doesn't talk about another GIRL with a woman, that's cuz he's interested and doesn't want to push her away. But if *I* (as a Pisces) were to avoid discussing my personal relationship issues with a guy (uhh.. like the Sag).. it's cuz I don't want to get that personal, I don't want to answer questions about it, I don't want to have to explain my (crappy?) relationship, and I don't want him getting any ideas about how he can be so much "better" for me and start to tell me so, and tell me to leave my bf. I don't want to discuss relationship stuff with a FRIEND, esp one who obviously likes me a little TOO much.
And "we work together" STILL sounds to me like softening the blow (mind you, it IS a valid reason, and a logical one, and one that does NOT involve revealing private internal feelings).. maybe because if I liked a guy I worked with, and it became obvious he wanted more than I did.. I could imagine myself picking the most diplomatic, general, non-personal reason why it can't work. Add a kinda-sorta bf I've had a difficult relationship with for the past three years, and I certainly wouldn't be feeling emotionally available to be more than friends with even a VERY nice and attractive guy from work. Also.. the "work thing" hasn't changed.. you still work together.. why would you convince yourself that three months later it's not a valid reason to her anymore, and keep pushing?
And, as gently as possible, Mr Virgo... you STILL judge all of her ways and means on what they would mean if YOU were doing it... she's NOT you.. she's your opposite, in fact! For instance: "If I truly care about someone, I talk about them from time to time, no matter how personal the matter." But not a Pisces, honey... no, esp not one who is trying to keep your relationship both friendly and professional. Cuz you know what? She DOES talk about him.. just not with YOU. She's keeping you OUT of the "relationship compartment" of her life. You keep judging her, based on what she does with others.. but again.. that's not Pisces.. different people have different levels of trust.. different areas they're allowed into.. different things we feel comfortable discussing with them... a Pisces DOES NOT treat everyone the same.. or even equally.. each person is different... what she does with someone else is NOT necessarily what she'll do with you.. it's all very individual and subjective. (Hard for a Virgo to wrap his mind around something so changeable and abstract, I know lol)
Now, this last thing.. I'm not trying to hurt you here, and I'm not one to stomp another's dreams... but the truth is... Pisces don't take three years to decide they have feelings for someone. It's generally pretty fast, actually. Trips us up a lot, in fact. It's not *impossible*.. but it IS *unlikely* that she suddenly realized three years into being your friend, co-worker, gym buddy, etc.. that she has feelings for you. I know you like her, I know you WANT her to like you... but I just don't see it... there wouldn't be three years of just friends.. and never, ever more.. only you deciding that the "friendly" things she does actually means there's a chance, cuz YOU wouldn't do it that way... and ignoring what she's SAYING, or only hearing what you want to hear. I get it, I do... but after this long, I have to conclude her feelings are just friendly, even if at one time she may have been attracted to you or thought about it.
The whole crux of this.. and the thing you cannot bear to really see.. was what she told your mutual friend. 😢
Now, this last thing.. I'm not trying to hurt you here, and I'm not one to stomp another's dreams... but the truth is... Pisces don't take three years to decide they have feelings for someone. It's generally pretty fast, actually. Trips us up a lot, in fact. It's not *impossible*.. but it IS *unlikely* that she suddenly realized three years into being your friend, co-worker, gym buddy, etc.. that she has feelings for you. I know you like her, I know you WANT her to like you... but I just don't see it... there wouldn't be three years of just friends.. and never, ever more.. only you deciding that the "friendly" things she does actually means there's a chance, cuz YOU wouldn't do it that way... and ignoring what she's SAYING, or only hearing what you want to hear. I get it, I do... but after this long, I have to conclude her feelings are just friendly, even if at one time she may have been attracted to you or thought about it.
The whole crux of this.. and the thing you cannot bear to really see.. was what she told your mutual friend. 😢
Posted by Lena282
You'd have to be pretty sheltered to think that behaviour means leading him on
Really?
You don't think she's fucking with him at all?
She has a partner that she isn't disclosing to him. It doesn't matter that this relationship is unstable .... for the fact that she withholds this information from him, while still giving him hints that she's interested in him pursuing her .... is leading him on.
Leading him to believe something other than what is the truth .. truth = she is partnered with another person.
there's no dicing and slicing that .. there's no gray area .. she is NOT available to have him sniffing around after her, and not only is she allowing him to, she's dropping suggestions to keep him on her trail.
We also know that Virgo is very critically controlling by nature .... so, there is more to this story. I've alluded to the fact that I already know that he isnt' remaining composed while she pulls fast ones over him, because he described the fast ones, so there is no pulling.
Leading him to believe something other than what is the truth .. truth = she is partnered with another person.
there's no dicing and slicing that .. there's no gray area .. she is NOT available to have him sniffing around after her, and not only is she allowing him to, she's dropping suggestions to keep him on her trail.
We also know that Virgo is very critically controlling by nature .... so, there is more to this story. I've alluded to the fact that I already know that he isnt' remaining composed while she pulls fast ones over him, because he described the fast ones, so there is no pulling.
Hi, 808 ..
First off, it definately takes two to tango and (very often) two to tangle things up.. Why not chalk this one up to a valuable learning experience and close this door so the (potential) right one (who meets your values, needs & standards, etc), CAN open for you. Find someone who is available, FREE, OPEN and uncomplicated.. Unless your feelings are so deeply invested and you "want" stick it out, why torture yourself anymore in being that third wheel - be it her elusive boyfriend OR career scheduling? It is what it is for a reason and sometimes you DO have to stand back and take that objective look. Unfortunately, how you "feel" about someone can't always change everything, unless there is the WILL and comittment by BOTH parties.. A pisces who IS available, free and totally smitten (will definately know long before 3 years), will want to do everything with you OR find a way, then wonder why there's not "MORE" hours in a day!
Also, you should've talked about/brought up ANY possible "boyfriend" much earlier on.. Often knowing something THAT important "trumps" feelings or privacy, imo. Relationships ARE investments in the future and you definately had the right to know and she should've been more forthcoming and straightforward about any boundaries. And what about setting your own boundaries too, and sticking with them or it may just cause complications for the next person "genuinely" interested in you? To sum it up, if you're not comfortable enough together to talk about anything, to be that open and honest, i really don't see a healthy foundation and likely not much there to begin with..
G/luck ..
First off, it definately takes two to tango and (very often) two to tangle things up.. Why not chalk this one up to a valuable learning experience and close this door so the (potential) right one (who meets your values, needs & standards, etc), CAN open for you. Find someone who is available, FREE, OPEN and uncomplicated.. Unless your feelings are so deeply invested and you "want" stick it out, why torture yourself anymore in being that third wheel - be it her elusive boyfriend OR career scheduling? It is what it is for a reason and sometimes you DO have to stand back and take that objective look. Unfortunately, how you "feel" about someone can't always change everything, unless there is the WILL and comittment by BOTH parties.. A pisces who IS available, free and totally smitten (will definately know long before 3 years), will want to do everything with you OR find a way, then wonder why there's not "MORE" hours in a day!
Also, you should've talked about/brought up ANY possible "boyfriend" much earlier on.. Often knowing something THAT important "trumps" feelings or privacy, imo. Relationships ARE investments in the future and you definately had the right to know and she should've been more forthcoming and straightforward about any boundaries. And what about setting your own boundaries too, and sticking with them or it may just cause complications for the next person "genuinely" interested in you? To sum it up, if you're not comfortable enough together to talk about anything, to be that open and honest, i really don't see a healthy foundation and likely not much there to begin with..
G/luck ..
However, I knew what was going on from the beginning of this. Virgo's are very passive with people they are interested in, during the attraction/capturing phase. They only become critically controlling once they become disillusioned .... because once angered or irritated, the Virgo becomes aggressive.
But, during the securing of a relationship, a Virgo will do NOTHING to aid the development and sit back to await the other to come to them.
For this reason ... they have the stare. They use the stare to attempt to implant within the other person's mind, that a desire is present for the other to pursue.
But, during the securing of a relationship, a Virgo will do NOTHING to aid the development and sit back to await the other to come to them.
For this reason ... they have the stare. They use the stare to attempt to implant within the other person's mind, that a desire is present for the other to pursue.
e below is a false statement, and every Piscean, as well as partner of a Fish knows this isn't true. Quite the Contrary .. a Piscean is quick, a Fish is the opposite of taking it's time.
This Virgo, because he awaits passively, for her to come to him ... he deems her slow, when Pisces are really fast to commit, in reality.
This Virgo is giving her the impression he wants to be with her, without doing anything to secure a relationship with her, and since he is expecting her to do it for him, and it hasn't happened yet .... he would put the thought in his head that she's moving slow .. when in reality, it's relativity in the aspect that he's not moving at all.
I know this trait well .... my husand does it all the time.
Posted by 808
And with her being a Pisces, the word "slowly" is an understatement.
Over this time that he has waited for her to develop a relationship, he has wanted it to be so ... and did nothing.
Waited ... waited .... and calls her slow.
Posted by 808
Over time, she started doing/saying things that made me think she was interested in more than friendship.
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Mr. Virgo .....
The Piscean female is quick to jump into a relationship ... fact.
The Piscean female is quick to jump into a relationship ... fact.
Posted by Lena282
Most Aries guys don't act like that. They're usually calm, polite and charming.
You should see one of my best friends go off on one...
Not all Pisces have good intentions and are too nice to hurt your feelings.click to expand
Some of the meanest, stingiest, most hypocritical, judgemental, gossipy, backstabbing, people i've ever met in my life are Pisces.
Actually come to think of it, i've four Pisces cousins. Two of them are spoilt fucking brats, and the other two are pretty odious as well.
The better examples seem to be few and far between.
You did what she wanted you to do (back off)Like Everevolving. said,she's not done
She is keeping him around in case of emergency. If she was truly interested in a true friendship with him she would have cut him off when he admitted his feelings out of respect for her boyfriend but she enjoys the attention he gives her. How can you have a true friendship if one or both have an attraction or desire for more than a friendship?
Again, thank you all for your replies and input thus far. I actually have an update this time. I had a long conversation with our mutual friend tonight, and it was interesting, to say the least. First of all, today was on par with the way last week went ... she smiled and waved, but we've yet to speak. So tonight, our mutual friend and I are talking about the situation, and I tell her that I'm just going to forget about it all and move on, and I said sarcastically "Is this how she handles all of her situations?", and her response was "Sometimes ... that's probably why she and (boyfriend's name) ..... whatever, nevermind." I asked what that was all about, and she had that "I just f'ed up" look on her face. So after she played dumb for a couple of minutes, she finally started telling me some things that she had originally withheld. First of all, my friend and her boyfriend have been having trouble for a few weeks, and they mutually broke it off a couple of weeks ago, right around the time all of this trouble between she and I started. Our mutual friend told me that apparently her guy has been hearing about me for a while now. As for the cold shoulder, she said that was for a couple of reasons ... one of them I believe and the other one I'm not sure I buy. She said that she's being cold, not because I was getting too close, per se, but because I was being too possessive. That part I believe. Then she went on to say that another reason she's being distant with me is because, obviously the break up, of which I was apparently the catalyst, and that she has feelings for me but is scared, emotionally not ready, and conflicted because of work. So basically she said she's being distant with me and trying to get me to leave her alone so that she can sort her feelings out, but she's staying in close proximity so that I "don't forget about her." All of THAT is what I'm not buying at the moment. I'm still thinking attention.
I asked our mutual friend why she's just now telling me this, and she said she wouldn't have had she not partially spilled the beans to begin with, but that she only told me part of the story originally to get me to back way off, initially. She felt like had she told me the whole thing, I would have done the opposite and jumped all over it. At this point, I don't know what to believe or think, but I'm still going to give her her space, if not only in an attempt to regain my OWN sanity!!
I asked our mutual friend why she's just now telling me this, and she said she wouldn't have had she not partially spilled the beans to begin with, but that she only told me part of the story originally to get me to back way off, initially. She felt like had she told me the whole thing, I would have done the opposite and jumped all over it. At this point, I don't know what to believe or think, but I'm still going to give her her space, if not only in an attempt to regain my OWN sanity!!
Mmmmm perhaps I'm a bit too close to this situation, with its uncomfortable parallels to my own experience with the Sag. But I'll go ahead and let you all inside the twisted, confusing landscape of a Pisces woman who's found herself in a situation with a friend developing feelings for her. Warning, this got long, and I got triggered. Read it, ignore it, block me.. idgaf. But this is REAL TALK.
I was friends with this Sag guy for years - almost 8 years when it all blew up. When we met, there was a definite attraction - he was cute and witty and funny.. but nothing ever developed romantically. We were FRIENDS, and we did friendly things together, but I certainly didn't involve him in my private relationship life. About 4, almost 5 YEARS into the friendship, he suddenly flips out... declares that I know he's always been in love with me, and I'm playing with his feelings. I was taken aback.. I'd never done ONE thing (beyond the first few months when a "relationship" never sparked) romantic with him.. I had NO IDEA he felt that way about me.. and quite frankly, I was not impressed that it took him years to figure it out for himself. (I know MY OWN feelings MUCH quicker!) I told him I only felt friendly toward him, he insisted we'd make a great couple.. there were a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work for ME, but most of them wouldn't make sense to another. But basically, it just wasn't THERE for me, we were FRIENDS and I enjoyed his company. I was also seeing someone (and it was rocky).. but I don't "put the blame" on a third person! It's only due to a bf IF the absence of that bf would then make the relationship possible. When that's NOT the reason, it's a cop-out to push the blame on a third person, esp one whom you know probably won't be there in the future.. and then this can of worms gets reopened.. then the friend thinks since you're single now, all obstacles have been removed, and renews his attempts. ...the reasons I couldn't ever see myself with the Sag had little to do with the Leo, and everything to do with him and I. So I told him our age difference (about 10 years) and our distance (he'd moved several hours away) made it unfeasible, that I wished only to be his friend. After a long discussion, he and I mutually agreed that our long friendship was the important thing here. WHEW, I thought! He gets it.. it's just a passing fancy, and he'll turn his sights on a better girl for him.
I was friends with this Sag guy for years - almost 8 years when it all blew up. When we met, there was a definite attraction - he was cute and witty and funny.. but nothing ever developed romantically. We were FRIENDS, and we did friendly things together, but I certainly didn't involve him in my private relationship life. About 4, almost 5 YEARS into the friendship, he suddenly flips out... declares that I know he's always been in love with me, and I'm playing with his feelings. I was taken aback.. I'd never done ONE thing (beyond the first few months when a "relationship" never sparked) romantic with him.. I had NO IDEA he felt that way about me.. and quite frankly, I was not impressed that it took him years to figure it out for himself. (I know MY OWN feelings MUCH quicker!) I told him I only felt friendly toward him, he insisted we'd make a great couple.. there were a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work for ME, but most of them wouldn't make sense to another. But basically, it just wasn't THERE for me, we were FRIENDS and I enjoyed his company. I was also seeing someone (and it was rocky).. but I don't "put the blame" on a third person! It's only due to a bf IF the absence of that bf would then make the relationship possible. When that's NOT the reason, it's a cop-out to push the blame on a third person, esp one whom you know probably won't be there in the future.. and then this can of worms gets reopened.. then the friend thinks since you're single now, all obstacles have been removed, and renews his attempts. ...the reasons I couldn't ever see myself with the Sag had little to do with the Leo, and everything to do with him and I. So I told him our age difference (about 10 years) and our distance (he'd moved several hours away) made it unfeasible, that I wished only to be his friend. After a long discussion, he and I mutually agreed that our long friendship was the important thing here. WHEW, I thought! He gets it.. it's just a passing fancy, and he'll turn his sights on a better girl for him.
Or so I thought - a couple months later, he went POSTAL cuz he found out I didn't tell him I was seeing this Leo guy, didn't TELL him THAT'S the reason we couldn't date! ...But that's NOT the reason, he didn't HEAR a word I said OBVIOUSLY.. as rocky as that relationship was, it was likely only a temp reason.. the REAL reasons were about why I could not be with him EVEN IF I were single. Still, I do not want to HURT people, esp not a dear FRIEND of 4, almost 5 years who suddenly decided he'd like to date me, what a mess! I wanted to save the friendship, and I didn't want to HURT the Sag. And he did exactly what I didn't want him to do.. began questioning me about my relationship, twisting things around to make himself look better, telling me how much better he would be for me... and whether that's true or not is not the point. The point is, *I* must finish my relationship first.. and he was making me very uncomfortable. BIG discussion. Once more, I THOUGHT we settled it.. friends only, our friendship is worth more than this. And everything was fine for two years.. until he found out the Leo and I DID break up, and the Sag came back with a vengeance - insisted that my being single now meant he could have his shot.. OMG.. even though he had a WIFE now! He told me his marriage was a farce, a sham, he wanted out, he wanted to be with me and I'm single now.. no, no, NO.. WTF?! This wasn't what I wanted! I was dating my Libra by then, and prior experience proved to me that I CANNOT put the blame on a third person.. the REAL REASONS hadn't changed.. single or not, I do not FEEL that way about the Sag and hadn't for over 6 years! I told him my reasons hadn't changed (age/distance).. but now HE has a reason.. he's MARRIED. Our discussion that followed wasn't as calm or amicable as the others, ended rather sour with me saying it's obvious we CAN'T be "just friends" and him saying yes we can and he's sorry he pushed and he'll do better. And a couple weeks later, he looked me up on FB - found my Relationship Status.. and went postal. Again. God DAMNIT!
You know what? I can't win for losing.. I don't want to TALK about my relationships with him -- it's an area he's NOT allowed in.. and when he DOES get in there, he's like a childish bull stomping everything and calling it shit. He SAYS he wants friendship.. but then it's obvious he's just biding his time. My BOYFRIENDS have NOT been the reason nothing could work with the Sag.. but he seems to think they're the only obstacles. But this time, I told him the Libra bf is the reason. Fuck it, it's what he obviously wanted to hear, the ONLY reason he'd accept (despite HIM not valuing his own marriage?! Whatever.) But I distanced myself from him even more, grew colder.. the friendship was becoming expendable, and though I felt sad.. I simply could NOT abide him continuing to chase me and CALL it friendship. Last year, he saw that Libra and I had broken up (for a short time) - and he started everything up again, only this time, he was FURIOUS and RUDE when I wouldn't date his (married) ass. I unequivocally ended the friendship, and I do not answer his texts now. I won't go back again, an almost 8 year friendship sadly flushed.
According to others here.. me trying to maintain the friendship was selfish, and I was using it to stroke my ego, I was a parasite... HA.. most Pisces don't actually NEED friends, people. Was I getting off on his (occasionally professed) attraction to me? Hell no.. I wanted him to get a gf (wife??), and be my FRIEND. Silly me to think that emotions are changeable, for believing when they say they're over something, and just want the same things you want... It started with me trying to salvage a 4 year friendship.. and ended with me throwing away an 8 year one to PROVE that all I ever wanted was the friendship. I wash my hands of being responsible for the Sag's emotions. I'm the ONLY person I have any control over, so I chose to take myself OUT of the situation. THAT is the extent of my control.
According to others here.. me trying to maintain the friendship was selfish, and I was using it to stroke my ego, I was a parasite... HA.. most Pisces don't actually NEED friends, people. Was I getting off on his (occasionally professed) attraction to me? Hell no.. I wanted him to get a gf (wife??), and be my FRIEND. Silly me to think that emotions are changeable, for believing when they say they're over something, and just want the same things you want... It started with me trying to salvage a 4 year friendship.. and ended with me throwing away an 8 year one to PROVE that all I ever wanted was the friendship. I wash my hands of being responsible for the Sag's emotions. I'm the ONLY person I have any control over, so I chose to take myself OUT of the situation. THAT is the extent of my control.
But still I'm branded the whore, the tease, the user.. yeah, whatever - fuck you all. Whenever it came up for FOUR YEARS.. I told him I don't feel that way about him, and reasons it can't work.. So suddenly.. it's MY responsibility to control HIM and compensate for HIS inability to handle his own shit? It's MY JOB to cut off the friendship -- cuz HE can't?? Cuz HE wants more and can't handle being JUST my friend, no matter what he SAYS? So now it's on ME to do what HE doesn't have the BALLS to do?? *I* have to cut off a much-missed friendship with someone I've cared about for years.. cuz it's HURTING him to like me more than I like him? Grow the fuck up, Sag.
And you, Virgo. Grow some balls. Face reality and handle your own shit. Three months ago, you threw a monkey wrench in a three year friendship with this woman. She's struggling to salvage it and still maintain some distance between you two, because she's NOT interested in dating you for WHATEVER reason, whether you UNDERSTAND or LIKE those reasons or not. If she WANTED to date you, I guarantee you.. she WOULD have, and she wouldn't give you reasons why she CAN'T.
*deep breath* Okay, moment over. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
And you, Virgo. Grow some balls. Face reality and handle your own shit. Three months ago, you threw a monkey wrench in a three year friendship with this woman. She's struggling to salvage it and still maintain some distance between you two, because she's NOT interested in dating you for WHATEVER reason, whether you UNDERSTAND or LIKE those reasons or not. If she WANTED to date you, I guarantee you.. she WOULD have, and she wouldn't give you reasons why she CAN'T.
*deep breath* Okay, moment over. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by Reason
So, it's you, Nefer, who's behind all those accounts and related schemes?
I have no idea what you're talking about, and I have only ever had ONE account here on DXP.. THIS one.
Posted by Reason
Well, come on babe, don't be shy, i see you really like to type
You seem to be our DXP Queen of Split Personality,
let's see if I'm wrong, I'll apologize if so
But the shit is there, sb has to be behind it, help us find whoclick to expand
o.O *I* have a split personality?
You're welcome to your opinion of course (and honestly, idgaf WHAT most people think of me!)...
However, though I am indeed a woman (AND a Pisces!) I am neither unafraid nor unashamed that I have emotions and feelings and moods, and those change often... I am 100% real, 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm sweet, sometimes I'm bitchy. Sometimes I'm happy and serene, sometimes I'm frustrated and abrasive. But I'm ALWAYS myself, and I always speak what I really think and feel.
That said, I never even cared enough to look up the people who were posting in here (though I DID find it a bit odd that most of the posters were jumping on the "she's a game-player" bandwagon with little to no apparent justification for that hypothesis - they too are welcome to their opinions) -- I read the posts and process the information, and draw my own conclusions to present in MY posts. I don't KNOW most of the people on DXP, and I see some of them around the boards.. esp the Pisces posting here, since I hang out in this section. A couple of them, I even talk to or am friends with OUTSIDE of DXP.. but only a couple.
Other than that, I have NO idea what you're going on about.
so we have these guys: Lena282, 808, Decemberist13, akatruby26, unreverose, MiaSangria, Pisces1114, Murmur and a real bunch of others, quite a few of them being registered just a few days from now
These are the same person? Really? Who has the time?
now, i'm obviously = Archy = DramaQueen = LeFruitDeMonImagination
Uh.. hi? I don't know any of those names, sorry.
back then, i had a deep crush on a person behind Lena282
Lena? Well, she seems pretty awesome to me, very crushable. Congrats?
Wait.. DramaQueen? Crush on Lena?.. Are you a guy or a girl?
(See how easy it is to confuse someone who believes people are honest and straightforward like she is?)
in this thread you've read a lousy story which was supposed to be about Lena282 and e3, and even i had a piece - 'eyeball guy', later regarded as Sag by Nefer (who i have never had any contact with, either in threads or PM, mark that point!)click to expand
Lena? e3? Eyeball guy— YOU are in this 'story' too?? You're a Sag? Or a Virgo? You're the work/gym friend with a crush on the Pisces girl in the thread (Lena??) Or you're the bf she doesn't talk about? Or you're the mutual friend getting "her" nose involved where it shouldn't be? ...my head hurts. Thanks bunches.
But you're absolutely correct.. I don't know you from Adam. And I have NO idea what PMs sparked this story, or your apparent (freakish) animosity towards me. I must cruelly burst your bubble... but YOU are NOT the Sag I spoke of. THAT Sag doesn't even come to DXP, and has no interest in Astrology. Unless you are indeed he and stalking me.. but that's unlikely, since YOU have not made contact with me (aside from dropping my name to call me to this thread) and HE would.
But that creates a bunch of shocked and amused questions in me.. Really? YOU identified with the Sag guy I spoke of (MY real life experience!)?? So you DID THAT to a woman (me?? haha) before?! You suddenly realized after years that you had a crush on a friend who never did anything to encourage it.. and you went extra-crispy crazy-ass about it, and about her not telling you about guys she dates.. even though she SAID she can't/won't date YOU?? How amusing.
well, apart from 90% of pure butter and the author's endless insecurities and sick parallels, there is some distorted truth to it, and some of it comes from PMs which is Private Messages, folks, so it's real interesting how so many ppl have access to it, huh, ain't it?
PMs ain't so P, I guess. Some people aren't good with keeping private stuff private. Careful whom you share what info with?
It was so ludicrous, ahahaha! i thought she was kinda winking at me when it all was for you, man, yeah, laughable but sorry, i didn't expect a bf to be so unnoticeable!
Who's the boyfriend? You? e3? Or maybe ME, since you seem so up in arms because I didn't brand the Pisces girl a whore for being sweet and friendly and having her motives and actions misconstrued?
*shrug* Whatever. I don't know Lena either.. and didn't know this was about her? (And I STILL don't know who YOU are in all this mess!) But what I DO know.. is how being nice to someone can be mistaken for romantic interest, and how a guy with a crush can selectively ignore things and only focus on the things that support his hope that she's also hot n' heavy for him, but she's just.. shy.. or slow.. or scared.
This shows that YOU don't know Pisces AT ALL!
Posted by Reason
however, there is a person here, Nefer, who would normally have a hard time drawing any of men's attention, yet pretends:
'(My profile statements about my athazagoraphobia)'
now, digging others' fears and stuff isn't my business either, but how come she refers to 'Sag' (me) and PMs i never sent to her, huh?
unlike previous guys, she has a kinda 'real' looking profile, so is she Mother Teresa or a DXP acarid?click to expand
What part of me or my profile was pretend again?
I am indeed REAL, but I'm neither Mother Teresa nor an acarid.
I'm Nefer, and incredibly secure/happy in who/what I am.. regardless of the "male attention" I do or don't get.
WHY do you think YOU are the Sag I spoke of? Seriously, I'm feeling weirded out.. YOU'RE TOO YOUNG for me... MY CHILDREN are the ages of the women YOU develop romantic crushes on! No, I do not WANT your "male attention".. That's just creepy. *shudder*
Lena? This is about YOU? You're the Pisces girl in this story?
Well, from one Pisces girl who has been in this situation to another... *clink glasses* We're often misunderstood.. but the one who cares enough to connect and understand and accept us the way we are.. HE shall reap the world, lucky lucky man.
*hugs* Lena
Well, from one Pisces girl who has been in this situation to another... *clink glasses* We're often misunderstood.. but the one who cares enough to connect and understand and accept us the way we are.. HE shall reap the world, lucky lucky man.
*hugs* Lena
Oh wow. Curiouser and curiouser. And down the rabbit hole we go! haha
Damn... I made a HUGE bumbling error.. I've had my coffee now, so I just saw it leap out at me LOL
However, though I am indeed a woman (AND a Pisces!) I am neither unafraid nor unashamed that I have emotions and feelings and moods, and those change often... I am 100% real, 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm sweet, sometimes I'm bitchy. Sometimes I'm happy and serene, sometimes I'm frustrated and abrasive. But I'm ALWAYS myself, and I always speak what I really think and feel.
Should read:
However, though I am indeed a woman (AND a Pisces!) I am neither afraid nor ashamed that I have emotions and feelings and moods, and those change often... I am 100% real, 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm sweet, sometimes I'm bitchy. Sometimes I'm happy and serene, sometimes I'm frustrated and abrasive. But I'm ALWAYS myself, and I always speak what I really think and feel.
However, though I am indeed a woman (AND a Pisces!) I am neither unafraid nor unashamed that I have emotions and feelings and moods, and those change often... I am 100% real, 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm sweet, sometimes I'm bitchy. Sometimes I'm happy and serene, sometimes I'm frustrated and abrasive. But I'm ALWAYS myself, and I always speak what I really think and feel.
Should read:
However, though I am indeed a woman (AND a Pisces!) I am neither afraid nor ashamed that I have emotions and feelings and moods, and those change often... I am 100% real, 100% of the time. Sometimes I'm sweet, sometimes I'm bitchy. Sometimes I'm happy and serene, sometimes I'm frustrated and abrasive. But I'm ALWAYS myself, and I always speak what I really think and feel.
Posted by Lena282
.... Reason seems to think it is, and he thinks you're talking about him because he's a Sag. Apparently everything posted on dxp is about him. I've blocked him before but he keeps coming back with a new account. I don't know who he is. I'm going mad!
Did anyone ever watch Friends?
Remember the episode with Brooke Sheilds were she thought Joey's character on the Soap Opera was his real life —?
Funny as shit ....
Posted by 808
She said that she's being cold, not because I was getting too close, per se, but because I was being too possessive. That part I believe. Then she went on to say that another reason she's being distant with me is because, obviously the break up, of which I was apparently the catalyst, and that she has feelings for me but is scared, emotionally not ready, and conflicted because of work. So basically she said she's being distant with me and trying to get me to leave her alone so that she can sort her feelings out, but she's staying in close proximity so that I "don't forget about her." All of THAT is what I'm not buying at the moment. I'm still thinking attention.
oh lord... does this sound familiar. I bet there is SOME truth in it but ya, proceed with caution.
Respond to her with indifference and try to cool down on that Virgo inquisitive gaze that seems to always be probing for answers. Basically, stop showing too much interest, confuse her and watch her come running.
Water signs all play games, even when they genuinely don't believe they are doing so.
Posted by Reason
So Nefer, are you her mother?
By asking if I'm 'her mother' I assume you mean Lena's mother... despite the fact that I already said I DON'T know Lena? Sorry, Mr. Twilight Zone.. my daughters are both Taurus.
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