Too Generous?

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Lately I've noticed that I've been really generous lately. I find that when I go over to my boyfriends I'll end up cleaning his house and doing his laundry. It's not like he manipulates me into it, I offer and bug him till' he lets me. The same with friends, I'll tidy up their room, spend all my money on them when going out, offering to buy them things. In a second I would use all my money to buy someone I love something that they'll love. ( considered buying my b/f a new car)
Does anyone else tend to do this? I don't mind it really but I'm afraid I come off funny to them like I'm trying to buy or earn their time with me. Is this normal with pisces or just a messed up mind thing I do?
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Wow Radio!! What a cool name! Do you listen to Coasttocoastam? Talk about radio with guts!!! It's on in the wee hours of the morning in the east coast of the States, and is broadcast all over the world.. Now back to your post. Generosity is beautiful, especially given where it really benefits those who cannot help themselves. May I suggest you look into animal shelters where money is desperately needed. Check if you have a Boys and Girls Club, or Big Brothers/Big Sisters, or some such organization in your area. Service and generousity are such a wonderful gift to those who really deserve your kindness. If you focus on worthy causes rather than the folks you mentioned, I guarantee you will never again doubt your generosity, or the recipients response to you!!
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Hey Radio!!! Could never say enough great stuff about CtoC!! I know it plays in Canada because lots of call-ins come from your part of the globe. You can get on their web-site coasttocoastam.com and see who their guests are for the show, and other interesting stuff. It's not for everyone, but millions tune in every night/morning. To be honest it's really helped me keep sane. Last night the guest was a head doctoe who did research and wrote a book on the afterlife in cases of suicide. She said the most incredible thing - that the terrorism tactic of suicide bombers can end in our lifetime!! Isn's that remarkable?!! Lots of other guests are so interesting that I've been taping shows for years. Hey,Alex Jones sure had a crazy time getting across the border into you're country last month on his way to the Bilderberg conference.
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Message posted by: pisces on 7/12/2006 9:07:35 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.160
Hey radio
I do the same the f'd up thing is half the time people don't notice or remember kind acts & still use me

The first time someone uses you, shame on them, every time after that shame on you for being so naive. If you know this is happening, mainly because you are giving the opportunity and chance to kick you in the ass, then that doesn't say much for your confidence, self-esteem and pride.

I don't quite understand this. Why would anyone do this on purpose? To get pity? You would sacrifice yourself just to be beat down? And . . . you KNOW it? wtf . . .

I know that people get upset with me because I am always talking about the Pisces weakness and how we can't function without proper direction and have no drive - then I hear this from Pisces' own mouth. Isn't it obvious, then, why other signs see us this way, if we would take the position of bottom feeder . . . ON PURPOSE.

People see us this way because the majority of Pisces behave this way. We let people beat us and it's not even a sucker punch. At least if it were, the indignity would go to the person who knocked us down when our backs were turned. Not only would you allow someone to do this - but, incourage it, support it, set yourself up for it.

Yes, the Pisces is a weak fool, in most cases. Without proper direction we would do what these Pisces here say they do - PURPOSELY. And to go further with it, express an almost pride in it for taking that position.

Pathetic !!!!!!
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whoa. hahaha.ok. well.
Helping people isn't a weakness, yeah sometimes I feel like a push over but when I need to I can hold my ground.
I think you hate the whole "martyrism" thing. Although its a pain I see it more positivly. I think we can be extremely unselfish and we should all take pride in that instead of putting ourselves down. You seem more concerned in the pride aspect of helping others. No one beats me down and i didn't say that. I'm just afraid that if I keep helping them it may turn into something more ugly and possible in the end a bit self destructive..:S
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Re-reading all this Radio, If this is a group of people who all give of themselves in one way or another... like if one of your friends can and does work on your car, and tunes it up at least once a month, maybe another landscapes and builds you the perfect boulder meditation area Hell yeah! clean up around their place, feed em sometimes,.. Are you'all tight and always there for each other? A friend of ours came into some money and helped out another friend by paying off his student loans and some medical bills. Pretty cool eh? Do you have tons of money you probably couldn't spend in one lifetime? Or are you living pay check to paycheck? " if you're havin these concerns - "may turn more ugly and possible in the end a bit self-destructive" I'd consider re-focusing some of that generosity
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Message posted by: pisces on 7/12/2006 11:08:55 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.160
Miss read it P-Angel. I like helping others. Its a pisces thing to do.

No doubt, I like helping people too. But, you said, "I do the same the f'd up thing is half the time people don't notice or remember kind acts & still use me"

There's a difference between helping someone who appreciates it and being taken advantage of. If you allow people to take advantage of you, then that help becomes you being taken for a fool. There's a such thing as pride, you know.

Furthermore, in most cases when the Pisces "thinks" they are helping, in reality, they aren't . . . because nobody "asked" for your help. I do this very thing myself and I am aware of it. However, I don't pass it off and try to justify it by saying, "It's just the Pisces thing to do", or, "nobody notices or remembers kind acts & still use me."

So, in essence, you WANT to be taken advantage of, you WANT people to use you, you WANT to not be appreciated . . . because, you can do this to feel better about yourself and justify it by saying "It's the Pisces way"

Bullshit, helping is great and wonderful. We should all help each other out when in need. But, if you know that the other person is going to mock you behind your back and use you . . . than all's you've accomplished is being their fool.

Take charge of yourself. Don't be that directionless, wishy-washy, weak Pisces that everyone thinks we are. YOU are in charge of your life.
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Listen to what you said Radio,

Message posted by: radiowithguts on 7/12/2006 4:29:25 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.217
I find that when I go over to my boyfriends I'll end up cleaning his house and doing his laundry. It's not like he manipulates me into it, I offer and bug him till' he lets me. The same with friends, I'll tidy up their room, spend all my money on them when going out, offering to buy them things. In a second I would use all my money to buy someone I love something that they'll love. ( considered buying my b/f a new car)

Nobody is asking you to do this. Sure, it's nice to want to help others, but, you actually said you had to bug him until he let you. That's not generosity, where you should be patting yourself on the back . . . that's trying to buy other's people attention with favors.

Have you no pride, or self-esteem?
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Other people shake their heads at us like we're misfits, or something. They see us as not having any willpower to better ourselves, think for ourselves, be proud of our accomplishments.

Now I see why firsthand, because we would valuate our accomplishments by forcing ourselves on others and calling it "Generosity".

How absurd are we? You want people to appreciate you? You want people to like you for all you do for them? Then, dont' degrade yourself into thinking that your way to finding a sense of belonging will happen by being someone's puppy dog, to kick and only feed and pet when they choose to.

People aren't admiring a Pisces who does this, they are laughing at them behind their backs. Now I understand everything people in the other signs are saying about us.

My God, I'm ashamed, because apparantly, what they say, is true. You would practically beg to do someone a favor? OMG
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What the hell is worng with doing a favour. I really think you need to find someone(willing of course, don't FORCE them) to talk to about yourself. You seem way too concerned about pride, its really unhealthly. I think a professional would be best cause they can give you something for anxieties.
All I wanted to know was if others do the same thing, and they do. I am not asking for pity cause as a pisces I can sure give myself some if I need it and this fear of them using me doesn't depress me or make me cry. Just something I was wondering about.
Honestly, I'd rather be the puppy dog than the abuser. I don't see that as a knock to my pride. I'm proud that I'm willing to take a beting for someone else.
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So far, they all live in B.C. and most have Virgo's in their lives . . . I'm just wondering . . . could it be? The simialaries are uncanny in the personality.

We'll see !!!!

The part that really gets my mind buzzing is . . . why?

What kind of inferiority complex, or insecurity would cause one to present a disorder of this sort, when there really isn't one? Is that a cry for help, trying to get someone to listen? I don't know, but, hopefully, the truth will unfold.