Logic vs. Emotions

This topic was created in the Pisces forum by haffo on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 and has 26 replies.

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@haffo
21 Years5,000+ Posts
Logic

Damage type: Sharp
Strenght: Low
Reliability: Low
Understandability: Easy
Penetrability among People: High


Emotions

Damage type: Varies; Can be sharp and soft.
Strenght: High
Reliability: High
Understandability: Difficult
Penetrability among People: High



I think emotions are stronger.
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@haffo
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Honestly,

How many of us do realise that when we use our logic, we do 90% of the time simply deceive ourselves. Do we even realise that most of the time, not logic dictates what to do, but our experience and therefore understanding.

How many of us do realise that?
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@haffo
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I've read that topic again Brandon. As you've said yourself there, you do not understand it.

As I said above, in order for emotions to be strong they need to be understood. Logic at it best is another emotion as well. We need it to analyse our toughts and emotions. But they are never should be used in decision making.

Emotional decisions are both strong and reliable.
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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces
"Emotional decisions are both strong and reliable"

I don't know about that Haffo. Sometimes, emotions needs to keep at bay. Sometimes, decisions have to be wieghed without emotional drama. The world would be at a frenzy of everyone being insulted, or offended in some way if EVERY decision was an emotional response.
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@haffo
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There are moments in people lives when their logic fails to make a decent decision. This is where emotions kick in and help us make a best decision. And there are simple rules when making emotional decision. If those rules simply understood, we could use it for ordinary situations as well.
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I don't know about that Haffo. Sometimes, emotions needs to keep at bay. Sometimes, decisions have to be wieghed without emotional drama. The world would be at a frenzy of everyone being insulted, or offended in some way if EVERY decision was an emotional response.

True. But it happens like that because we do not understand them. We do not know how to handle them. It doesn't mean that they are wrong. We just need to know how. And I belive it should be a science.
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@haffo
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I'll give you an example P-Angel.

I was a very impatient person. I have never tolerated anything. And that kind of behavior of me has always reflected at everything. No logic could save my situation if patience is not here.


Now, I'm very patient person and things are easier. Now I use my logic only to understand why I think in certain way. The rest is easy.
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@haffo
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Well Haffo, there are things that individuals will not understand.

I think everyone with IQ above 80 could understand what I say.

Emotions are not worth understanding from my perspective, so I don't bother with them

This is not a life from my perspective.
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@haffo
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Well some people are logical and some people are emotional. There is no need for these people to ever cross over. I think if a person is logical, then they should remain that way. The same is true for emotions.

They have to Brandon. Emotions have big impact on our physical body. If we are going to live only according to logic, we all gonna get sick. This is ait acceptable.

Therefore, we have to find they "right" way.

There are no options for that.
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@haffo
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Instead of analysing every situation everyday Brandon, I prefer to have simple rules that will help me guide trough my way. I will never have a doubt about how I feel because that would be what I want it to be.


So, if things happen the way I want them to be, then why feel sorry about it?
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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces
Having this huge difference between the Virgo and the Pisces, is one of the reasons why my husband and me have such a wonderful relationship. I feel, he thinks.

I know that sounds crazy, because that makes us so completely different. But, it's like where he's strong, I'm weak - where I'm strong, he's weak. I make him use his emotions and he makes me reason things out.

So, perhaps there's a good reason for this big difference. It makes for two opposite people to need each other in every day life.
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@P-Angel
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And being a Virgo, my husband feels as you do, Branh. He doesn't quite grasp emotions. He feels because I tell him he's suppose to, but, without telling him why this should effect his feelings, he wouldn't understand.

The same goes for him telling like-wise, appropriately.
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@Azuchan
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I agree with branh this time, an overabundance of emotions is unhealthy. Your understanding of emotion is what you called logic. Emotion is something you feel not to reason out things. Let's have an example.
In order to save 1 million people, you have to sacrifice 1000 people. If you don't want to see that 1000 people die, then 1 million people will die because of it. What would you do?
Your emotion will still be a wreck to see 1000 people die, because for emotion, doesn't matter the number of people die, they die. The number makes no difference for emotion. However your logic will kick in like a mathematic machine and help you to choose.

It's weird that me being a Pisces, I prefer logic over emotion because for me emotion is very unappealing, you can't think clearly in an emergency situation with your emotion clouding you, eg: panic is one of emotion. It doesn't mean that I don't use my emotion, but if I use my emotion too much, God knows how many stray dogs I will keep *sigh*. Too much logic makes people cold, too much emotion makes the world full of psycho people. That's why a balance of logic and emotion is needed.
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Like I said in the Virgo Chat:

Emotions are apart of life. Without emotions, you cannot Grow.

Happiness leads to "carelessness".
On your way to becoming an adult, you'll make many careless mistakes, but when you're able to take it serious and fix your mistakes seriously, then you grow "Maturely".

Anger leads to "Poor judgement".
It works the same as happiness, but when you're able fix your mistakes without having pride on the line, you'll be able guide yourself with much wisdom and learn many lessons. And so you become more "Wiser".

Sadness leads "low self-esteem".
(You probably heard this many times) But when you're able to face what you fear and stand your ground even though you're scared, you become more "Stronger inside".
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@piscesboy
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if someone is too emotional i think is destined for disaster...
they are too blinded by their so called "strong feelings" probably they would like to call them intuition.. it might work at times.. but without logic.. they are eventually doomed...

great scientists normally have been "very emotional" .. especially when it came to their subjects of interest.. they blend(ed) emotions and logic to solve problems, come up with great theories.. but without logic.. they couldn't have achieved anything worthwhile

logic is "essential" to one's success... also without logic you can not understand emotions either.. with logic you can even manipulate emotions of others (if you understand them) .. it is known fools are among the most emotional guys.. even the insane .. too much emotion leads to insanity.. loss of direction and rise of fanaticism.. look at the so called jehadis.. emotionally incensed (WITHOUT LOGIC) to destroy human lives.. too much emotions is DANGEROUS

to be successful in life one needs both.. logic to carve your path up the ladder and emotions for you to remain driven.. also because some people can not express emotions does not make them unemotional... and people who can't express them are also less likely to understand them either...

no one is unemotional.. after all the world is yet to produce a perfect rational human πŸ˜‰

sorry for the long post 😒