will my Pisces ever return?

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i am a Libra (though i do not know about my rising moon or sun)n he is simply a typical Pisces ^_^ wish i knew Pisces' characteristics more before 😒
however, on 15th of April 2009 i met him online. he was a then a depressed, too much emotional little boy who was so much frustrated about the life he was leading. i can't remember what exactly i said to him (i was recovering a bad break-up then, was betrayed by my ex-bf) but i definitely said to him that death is not a solution of any problem. anyway, he was shy to ask me when i would be online next time but i could understand it n promised him to be online next day. this was how everything started. he was really a shy guy and took about 2 months to ask me for my phone number. we used to talk about anything..ANYTHING and the conversations were never boring! on July 25th 2009, i met him. i was feeling a bit awkward because he was literally swallowing each of my words (with a gaping mouth...lol...and with a constant staring) after a week later, he proposed me. as i said that i was recovering a bad break up (of nearly 3 years' affair) n he knew it. he was in a relation too for 2 years n he was straight honest about it. however, i asked for time from him to say my decision n he agreed!
after 6 months, on January 17th 2010 i finally said yes n i could tell that he felt to be the happiest guy in the world! i was happy too because the way he used to treat me, i couldn't have asked more from a guy n his behavior,actions, personality---everything matched with my imagination of "prince charming" πŸ™‚
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but..problems came on the way. and i admit (n i feel like killing myself for it)that it was me who started the problem. on July 2010, i got to know that i have cysts on my ovary n i have to either give up the plan to have a child or i have to take it now. he stood beside me being strong n said---we know that we can't get married now but i only want YOU!...but i slowly started to feel more insecure and gradually started to be more clingy 😒 i wanted his presence more, wanted to meet more, wanted to have more of his company...obviously this is not possible when both of us are students n we have our own works to do! but i became so stubborn n hardheaded that i started fighting with him, most of the nights. he would stay silent n that would make me more angry.i could literally feel that he is distancing himself n that made me more panicked n clingy like a crab. the fear of losing him, the tension of physical problem that i have n my upcoming exams were making me crazier than ever..sometimes i would be calm n used to ask myself why am i being so inconsiderable when i myself know that normally i m much more patient.
on 18th October 2010, he said those final words---"i am not being able to give u anything.my presence doesn't make u happy anymore..so i ma leaving.".......i cried n cried n cried n begged him to stay n to give this relation another chance. he agreed but for a week, he was no where near the person i fell in love with. i could feel that he was trying hard n that used to make me cry in silence..after a week,i asked him that if he takes time to sort things out then will he come back to me again?...he answered--i don't know n then he stopped contacting. two days later, on 29th of October, i went to meet him. he was so cold, always staring at the ground, said to me--if u come here to meet me again, i will stop hanging around here.

but then, just after 3 HOURS, he called me n said--go home. i will call u when i reach home n please take some food!i then promised myself "to be good" n not to over-react.day after day, I COULD FEEL that he was being normal little by little.but after one week, he again became cold as an ice cube.i searched for the reason cause we didn't fight rather things were simple n were coming spontaneously! i asked him gently if there was anything wrong but he denied. then just in the morning of 11th November, he sent me a text "don't contact me anymore.bye"

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i didn't cry this time nor begged but i kept sending emails n texts,saying those things i did on whole day. he blocked me on fb, his friends who were on my friend list were no longer there..i didn't complain for any of these but i would cry myself to sleep thinking all the pain i caused him. more pain i would feel because my "calm personality" was returning n i was realizing more of what i have done 😒

on December 1st, i came to know that he had been hospitalize for 20 days for having some kidney trouble.i went to meet him but he didn't even look at me rather he hid his face with his arm n kept it that way till i got out of room. i cried all the way back to home, considering suicide is the best punishment for me for hurting him like that. got a text afterward from him, saying---"Don't u understand? i told u not to contact me anymore. ur presence makes me more uncomfortable. please leave me alone.i don't love u anymore."

i didn't contact him after that. not because he said "he doesn't love me anymore" but because my contacting may remind him of what a pain in the a** i became later.it has been 7 weeks but i still cry for him, knowing no one would understand how to heal him because he always smiles even if it hurts. i always had to be technical to support him during the relation so that he doesn't feel himself to be weak or i m being bossy..going through pages after pages about knowing the characteristics of P-men, i feel more pain for him.
"he left me"-- that hurts me less now..rather he has to stay without me, with the "fake" smile on his face---that hurts me more. i still go to those places regularly where we used to hang around (but in the dark of night so that he doesn't see me even accidentally)
he still wears the ring that we playfully exchanged as a married couple do πŸ™‚
his birthday is on Feb n Valentine day is coming.i cant decide what to do.should i wish him or leave him alone.

i really want him back..i know i DO!maybe i sound like an emotional fool (that's what my friends started calling me 😐 ) but the pain of his absence is as if alive n solid and it is eating my whole entity from inside. i haven't stopped doing anything normal--studying, everyday activities..i got a new hair-cut n i got enrolled in Salsa dancing coaching. but all of these r for him (he likes my being random n fun n he loved to see me dancing)
do u think he will come back to me?..ever? all i need is a chance..do u think that he will consider giving me another chanc
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You asked for my help at the end of the other thread. Maybe you thought I could tell you how to get him back. But I'm going to be straight, blunt, and honest. None of this is to hurt or belittle you.. but it IS to get you to open your eyes, because they're closed tight.

"he proposed... i asked for time from him to say my decision...after 6 months... i finally said yes"

He knew what he wanted, YOU. You planted a little seed of doubt with not knowing you wanted HIM for sure, but he dealt with it (understanding Fish he is) But.. the seed was still germinating.

"it was me who started the problem ...i have to either give up the plan to have a child or i have to take it now. ..we know that we can't get married now... but i slowly started to feel more insecure and gradually started to be more clingy"

So you ..what? Have to have a child NOW or give up having one at all? But you both knew you couldn't have one yet, couldn't get married yet. But it starts messing with YOU, and turns you into someone you don't want to be. So sad. The seed is growing into a sapling... he can't make you happy, you are miserable together, and there doesn't seem to be a solution.

"i am not being able to give u anything.my presence doesn't make u happy anymore..so i ma leaving."

The sapling is now a tree. When a man cannot make his woman happy, it unmans him. Takes A LOT to drive a Pisces to this point.

"if u come here to meet me again, i will stop hanging around here."
"go home. i will call u when i reach home n please take some food!"
Meant: This is NUTS! We have to stop this, it's not helping! Take care of yourself better. You doing this isn't going to make me change my mind, and it feels manipulative. I absorb moods like a sponge, your unhappiness brings me down, and I can't make you happy. So stop."

"don't contact me anymore.bye"
Meant: I can't take this anymore. There is nothing I can do, I keep making it worse. You're even unhappier now. We're both miserable and that's not good. I have to stop this, cuz you won't."

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3 weeks later, you hear he's in the hospital, so you go to him. He doesn't want you there. Won't look at you or let you see him. He made it through 3 weeks, maybe things were starting to feel better, more normal. Now you're both back to square one. It HURTS.

"---"Don't u understand? i told u not to contact me anymore. ur presence makes me more uncomfortable. please leave me alone.i don't love u anymore."

Meant: Don't you understand? (How many times and ways do I have to say this?!) I told you not to contact me anymore. (HOW MANYβ€”) Your presence (HURTS and) makes me more uncomfortable (KILLING BOTH OF US!). Please leave me alone. (GO AWAY!)"
"I don't love you anymore." = I CAN'T love you anymore, we're killing each other. You might be okay with that, but I'm not. Here, I'll tell you I don't love you anymore.. will that work? Will you FINALLY understand that we can't be together, that we're better off apart? Now GO AWAY!"


Then a big chunk of how much you hurt him, yet you are the only thing that made him happy and the only thing that can make him happy now, that his "fake" smile for the world hides all the pain only you can fix. Maybe at one time that was true.. but it changed, and YOU put so much of that pain there.. and YOUR pain HURTS a Pisces MORE than OUR OWN pain! NOW you're just feeling so sorry for him.. probably have been for a long time. PISCES DON'T WANT/NEED YOUR PITY, thankyouverymuch. In fact, if you pity me, I pity you.. you don't even know how wrong you are. Want to stop hurting me? Stop letting ME hurt YOU.. find your happiness, I can't be EVERYTHING to you, that's exhausting. So I can't be around you anymore.. your vibe is crushing me, and there's nothing I can do.. YOU have to fix you.
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"he left me"-- that hurts me less now..rather he has to stay without me, with the "fake" smile on his face---that hurts me more."
A Pisces would say: As gently as possible, fuck you. I say that with much gentleness and love. Fuck you.
How DARE you PITY me? How DARE you think YOU are my only salvation? How DARE you think so lowly of me? *I* am my own salvation! YOU are the one who is letting that crazy thing called life smash her down and turn her into something PITIABLE.


"he still wears the ring that we playfully exchanged as a married couple do"
Sentimental we can be. He'll remember you always. He just doesn't want to BE with you!

"his birthday is on Feb n Valentine day is coming.i cant decide what to do.should i wish him or leave him alone."
Look, Libra.. I'd bet $ 5 you have Venus or Moon in Scorpio, maybe Mars. Or a Water Moon at the VERY least - or Taurus for that blind stubbornness. Because you cannot let this go, even though he's TOLD you SO many times to leave him alone! Even though it may be the ONLY way to salvage anything here, to give him a break, let him breathe and think and feel.. let him miss you maybe. You need to MOVE ON, only you can't, and you're frozen there. Water Moon/Venus, probably Scorp.
LEAVE HIM ALONE. Can I be any more clear? If you contact him, you will hammer another nail in the coffin of your relationship/chances with him. LEAVE HIM ALONE. NO birthday wishes, NO happy vday.


"do u think he will come back to me?..ever? all i need is a chance..do u think that he will consider giving me another chance"
If you LEAVE HIM ALONE. If you get your emotional stability back. If you get back to that fun, happy, busy girl he originally fell for. And if you LET HIM DECIDE he WANTS to. You can't convince him, there is NOTHING you can do to control another's feelings or actions, you can only control YOU. So stop letting yourself get OUT of control, so hurt and distraught and STUCK on a guy who left you, it's SO unattractive... EVEN TO HIM!

/soapbox
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thank u Nefer..thank u very much..i DID HAVE stopped calling him or knocking him..n i try my best not to be in front of him even "accidentally".. i asked for ur opinion because i wasn't sure if i am doing things right. i will not defend or stand for the things i did that caused him pain. even i myself knew that i was doing wrong then but literally i couldn't control myself..n there's no excuse for those nights of unnecessary fights..
i just hope now that someday maybe i will get another chance (or maybe this chance will never come in this lifetime)..the ancient battle of mind vs. heart goes on n on.

u were not rude Nefer πŸ™‚ i know what i have done and this is only the consequence!...

but i DO want to say that i never thought of the word "pity" because never "awwwww!!!poor you!!!" came on my mind😐 his being alone hurts me because he IS a loyal person (people say Pisces men are womanizer! i don't know though..) he stayed two years single after his first break-up (his ex cheated on him). he proposed me even after knowing that i just got out of a bad relation. however, as u said """He knew what he wanted, YOU. You planted a little seed of doubt with not knowing you wanted HIM for sure, but the seed was still germinating.""" but for me, i thought--what would one think when they know that i just got out of a relation n jumping into another! won't they think that i m just trying to use them because they are being honest n affectionate?! 😒

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one thing i want to say more---he KNEW what i feel for him n how much i m in love with him n all..he used to ask me several times "i really wonder what would u do if i die before u!..i m sure u r gonna be all insane n won't wait longer to meet me in hell πŸ˜„ " my sweet Pisces ^_^

he is an independent person and made his own decision.
n i am gradually being able to keep my mind more busy but i know, it's a LONG way to go..

my eyes r now open Nefer πŸ™‚ n i saw that i m walking on a thin ice-sheet. so i thought of asking for ur opinion if i m doing right πŸ™‚
i just hope that he is okay n happy πŸ™‚
thank u once again πŸ™‚
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Posted by dpriyu

.. i always had to be technical to support him during the relation so that he doesn't feel himself to be weak or i m being bossy..going through pages after pages about knowing the characteristics of P-men, i feel more pain for him.





First of all, you are the one being weak and unable to stop yourself from crying and contacting him. You are the who talked about suicide at the beginning of the relationship and now at the end .. so, get your head out of the clouds to realize who is the weak one and who is the strong one.

Secondly ....



Posted by dpriyu

"he left me"--

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He didn't leave you, if I'm understanding that correctly .. you left him
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... i became so stubborn n hardheaded that i started fighting with him, most of the nights. he would stay silent n that would make me more angry.i could literally feel that he is distancing himself n that made me more panicked n clingy like a crab. the fear of losing him, the tension of physical problem that i have n my upcoming exams were making me crazier than ever..sometimes i would be calm n used to ask myself why am i being so inconsiderable when i myself know that normally i m much more patient.






You left him right there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you emotionally pushed him away from you because you are a weak person and think you're strong ... because of that misconception of yourself, you haven't the accurate awareness to know how to deal with life issues.
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P-Angel..he dumped me..isn't it then "he left me"?πŸ˜•

n yeah..i slowly understood n still understanding that i became/am being too weak..i m working on it πŸ™‚ just hope it works πŸ™‚




No, he didn't dump you, according to what you wrote .. he became disillusioned. Once a life obstacle happened upon you, you began to attempt to dump all of this emotional baggage of your frightened feelings onto him, and his image he had of you changed. The enchantment became a nightmare when you began to cling, prod, blame ... by your own admission, you started arguments with him simply because you couldn't handle yourself. You even say it's not like you to do it, and normally you're a different person.

If YOU changed the terms of relating .. then the ending of the relation becomes your responsibility.

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how can things be what it was before when i know that i m the one who made him run away! 😒 he will always feel scared n confused! 😒
i just..i don't know..😒
wish i knew it before!..wish i understood him more before!!..but nothing can change now, i guess..

😒




You are the one confused.

He's not scared, you are ... it was your fear of not being able to keep a man due to not giving him a child which caused you to change how you treat him.

That's all you.


He's not confused, he got rid of everything that even remotely reminds him of you ... while you are obssessed with him in your every thought .... he doesn't want you, while you try to make yourself believe that it's just him being scared = YOU are the one confused .. not him.

This sentence .... "he will always feel scared n confused!" .... is YOU deluding yourself into believing that he does want you really, he's just scared and confused ... when in reality, that is a fantasy of yours.

He told you it's finished ... so walk the fuck away like an adult.
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Posted by dpriyu

wish i knew it before!..wish i understood him more before!!..but nothing can change now, i guess..






What the fuck are talking about? You wish you knew what before? You wish you understood him before?

Before what?

What is it you wish you knew?

Again, this isn't about him .. it's about YOU.

YOU are the one who changed ... you are just going to ignore that no matter what, aren't you?

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No, he will never return to you as you envision him being ... because your concept of reality is severly slanted. Even if he did decide to talk to you one day, again, you would have an expectation of what you think he is, rather than what he is .. so, again, no, he will never return to you as you have your mind believing.


Any Pisces person, male or female, would likely turn away from you ... if you projected such insecurity onto them, that it made you create arguements with intentions of placing fault for your inability to have children onto them.


You're deluded ... you need to get a grip.
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P-ANGELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ***screaming****
😐
yes..i was/am confused n that's why i need to talk to u guys..😐 isn't it obvious! i AM confused and wanted a "third party's point of view" 😐

"wish i knew it..wish i understood him more before"...by this i meant---i never approached to a person according to their zodiac sign 😐 but after the break-up, i started reading more about the characteristics of Pisces and could relate to every of his actions n even words!..this is why i sigh,thinking "wish i knew it before" 😐
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What happened has nothign to do with sun sign .... for you to search a Pisces characteristics and make the implication that if you had known the characteristics before hand would have nothing to do with what happened.


Likely any man, no matter his sun sign, would have the same reaction .... if the woman attempted to inflict her emotional pain onto him because she is barren.

That is baggage a man simply won't carry for you .... this particular man being a Pisces isn't relevant.


You can stop with the deception = you didn't come in here because you seek a different point of view .. you came here to get the answer of how to get him back.
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So long as you think the only reason you don't have him is because of your lack of understanding his sun sign ... then you'll never have him. Because then you give yourself the false information that the only reason he moved on is because he's weak, confused and scared.


It passes right over your head that you are the one who possess those qualities in this situation. You say you know, but, then you say things to infer that you wish you had known how he was before you tried to dump your emotional baggage onto him, which = you aren't taking this information in to completely understand ..

... you are simply going ya, ya, ya, right, sure, he dumped me and I don't know why



That lacks depth, and I'm sure he got that.
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now..

IT IS NOTHING ABOUT THE SUN SIGN dear.. i DID NOT UNDERSTAND his needs..this is where i lacked!
and about Sun Sign, it would have helped me to get an insight about his character.
i can not read mind!

...i said i was being clingy n that had reason too!
i used to wonder why is he being too polite to the every single person who comes with a problem!
i didn't know he is born with it!..i simply assumed that he has difficulty saying "no" to anyone.
i myself have the same problem n that's why i started to "make him understand the necessity of saying NO some times"

THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT A GOOD THING TO DO...!

he would have understand if i were more patient and calm!...i guess u r a Pisces too n u DO understand if something is said gently n patiently to u, don't u?

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Posted by P-Angel
What happened has nothign to do with sun sign .... for you to search a Pisces characteristics and make the implication that if you had known the characteristics before hand would have nothing to do with what happened.


Likely any man, no matter his sun sign, would have the same reaction .... if the woman attempted to inflict her emotional pain onto him because she is barren.

That is baggage a man simply won't carry for you .... this particular man being a Pisces isn't relevant.


You can stop with the deception = you didn't come in here because you seek a different point of view .. you came here to get the answer of how to get him back.




Awww, sheesh. P-Angel said in four sentences what I took 400 to say!

Maybe it's NOT crazy to get shiny on P-Angel... once you get past her harsh delivery, IF you can open your defensive, closed mind and actually SEE what she's saying without taking it personally... things may become crystal clear to you and you then realize.. P's not NICE, but knows her shit. What's not to like?
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Nefer, the sad part is she came in and tired to throw a smoke screen in the fishes faces, hopeing yall wouldn't see through it. smh.




what is wrong if i like P-Angel or Nefer?
i didn't find any of them blasted back!

i m not attacking anyone here but why some people are attacking me?!

of course i was/am scared of P-Angel but this being scared isn't like she a monster or sth!...it's more like respect because of her having the ability of saying the truth out loud and not sugar-coating it.
it took time for me to understand many of her words but she says how things really exist n that's what is lovable.


why m i even explaining it to u 😐
she always has some sort of issue with me she wont bring up but act like im ruining her day im a sag male and i get
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