This is going to be a very long message and apologies in advance if I'll bore you with my soapy story!! I'm just reaching a point of despair. I am a super confident Scorpio woman (ascendant Sagittarius) or at least I look so. Last summer a Virgo man spotted me in a night club and after he stared at me for two hours he sent his friend (also a Virgo) to say hello. Later on he explained he was fearing rejection hence he didn't come himself. I was feeling nervous too, and we exchanged only business cards. On the next day he called me (said later he was with his friend, and that he was afraid I will not pick up). We exchanged a few formal and nervous words. Then he started with the e-mails, messengers, messages insisting to meet me. Finally after two weeks we scheduled a date. For me it felt like an eternity, I was already head over heels, thinking and obsessing about him every day. I knew it was crazy and early and PLUS I was dating someone else already (a Sagittarius who insisted on being "casual" with me and traveling a lot). The Virgo arrived for the date, I had to wait for him to shower, change clothes etc. in a very fancy hotel after which we had a very fancy and romantic dinner. We communicated very well, everything was close to perfect, and he mentioned he is looking for a serious partner and the woman of his life (at which point he dropped me big compliments etc.) Shortly after came the MISTAKE. I mentioned to him I am dating someone. He changed his face for seconds and then changed the topic. We went out of the restaurant, dizzy from the wine and kissing each other into the park. I wanted us to go to the same club but instead we got lost and reached his hotel. There he literally dropped me on the bed, pulled me passionately and shortly after...turned his back on me (there was some TV but I felt him quite cold and distant). Being utterly emotional I fell in a panic, could not sleep the whole night, woke up early and thought how I destroyed the romance. Despite this on my mind, I appeared calm and composed, and we sat having coffee in the morning, almost completely silent. He made a couple of more compliments, and then we separated. I sent him a message, I will miss you., to which he replied, "Don't be angry with me. I cannot get over something. You are wonderful. We will see each other again " I was angry, cried, almost three days as I interpreted the message "You were so easy. I am not really into you. I might call you for fun
Then my torments started. He disappeared for a week while I thought about him almost all the time. I was completely devastated thinking he might never call again. But he did. He started calling almost regularly asking what I was doing. I was at loss of words most of the time and it went like, "I am reading "- I see, I am watching TV - Ok, bye. Then he invited me on a boat trip for one day (with his Virgo friend who had a Virgo girlfriend). So there I am on the boat, in a red dress, socialising with the other girl, swimming, hugging him, him swimming around me and taking great care what I need. When we separated he continued to call, but very rarely (once a week). I did not know what to say as my feelings were still very strong and was overwhelmed. One evening he called me again and we arranged to meet in the same club. I went there all dressed up while he was cold, distant, looked at his phone and said he is very sleepy and wants to sleep in my place (to which I said NO and sent him away). I even told him I am very popular on Facebook (he doesn't hav). Afterwards we didn't talk. At all. I called him for his birthday two months later...he just didn't pick up. Time was passing but my memories stayed. So one month ago I added him again on the messenger, and I wrote him on 01.01. He replied immediately and a couple of hours later called me on the phone. His first words were what I was doing and if I had a boyfriend. I said I am busy with career and that I no longer have a boyfriend. He said he is in another city but he might come to mine and asked if he should call me, and asked me to call him if I am in his city. The next three days he was online constantly as never before, but without writing to me. I got crazy again!!! Now we don't chat to each other, he has not called. I don't know if I should approach him, how can I do it in a subtle way (he is very intelligent), I don't want to look cheap, but don't want him to be insecure. I don't know if he is into me!!! And if I stand a chance. What should I do? Needless to say I've read so much about Virgos and even have a Virgo girlfriend who is consulting me. I can't believe I can fall so much for someone!! Last but not least, I am preparing to go abroad! And my head should be clear. Please help. Any advice will be highly appreaciated.
Hi there! Thank you so much for your insightful reply. You've caught most of my thoughts right away, describing a situation almost like I would do it - that is, when I am confident and not plagued by doubts. The situation is indeed complicated and except with love or whatever it was we felt so strongly, it has to do with pride and yes, with extreme cautiousness. I will not forget how after things messed up I was trying to call him and he never picked up. Then, all of a sudden, he would call as if it's out of pure whim and say, I'm here in your city, wanting to have a dinner with you, I want your opinion on a case I have, Mrs....! - and I'd say why no warning - to which he'd reply, Oh, I was just passing, (and then he'd call three more times to make sure I will appear there). Then he'd appear disinterested and cut cold. It is very true he was feeling rejected and I realized that very late. I wanted to impress him because he looked very tough (how wrong I was) and intelligent, and instead I made him withdraw! The fact that I was with another man and that I was seemingly cold confused him. I remember he had put my photos on his desktop, and even said I looked like a model while he was ugly! (Of course he is handsome). He showed funny jealousy even towards his best friend when the latter talked with me a bit more. He has only a couple of contacts on his messenger (a real loner and workaholic). Another thing is the age difference, and the fact that he mentioned he was hurt in his previous relationship, and stated women "lie and betray". I want to be warm and sincere with him (he said he saw that in me) and will truly appreciate a romantic meeting (with him under my piercing look). I can easily imagine the same magic attraction. The problem is that I do not know when he will call me and how I should behave until then. Perhaps it is my Scorpio sense and intuition wanting to control every detail and be certain of the outcome, I will try to listen to your advice and relax. Funny thing is, I was raised by two Virgo parents and it was hell!! I had endless quarrels with my mother about why she is so picky, critical, not supportive of my grand ideas, not to mention too proper and organized. But well, we will see. I know he is not the type of man to declare his love loudly and it will be enough if he appears conveniently...or else I will continue my way.
OK, it seems like my story is developing in real time! My Virgo just informed me promptly with a message that he is coming to my town next week Tue or Wed. He was very dry and straight to the point, without any smiles or sweet things. Wrote also that he moved to the capital because he intends firmly to stay there. Asked me why I live in my city and not in the capital. I replied that my work keeps me here (which is true!). And then, as simple as that, he logged out and now I have to....wait for his call? Help!!! Why is it so hard to keep my emotions under control with this logical and sensitive man...
Thanks once again for your profound reply. I have read it many times and even if you are the only one following this thread I am obliged to follow...with what happened! And it was so dramatic it went beyond any expectations. Clarifying first - I come from Europe, small country, distance between us is 350 miles (he in the capital and I in one of the main cities). The Virgo hasn't just been hurt badly in the past. It has been happenning in the present. Yesterday after an excellent dinner with friends we remained alone in a hotel room (prior to our "date" he phoned me two times asking if I will "be with him"...and I said encouraginly and jokingly, yes). And there we are...and I feel that something is wrong and pushed him back. Then he literally spilled his heart and soul how he is suffering from a terrible break up (been with and without a woman for the last 5 years)...full scale drama with how she was cruel to him, offended him, rejected him, betrayed him, and me trying to explain him with calm words of a psychologist that it's just emotional playing etc. I was astounded to perform this role (consoling him) but I seemed to have no other choice. I did not want to give him up so when he started saying how he felt down in the dumps, very depressed, with no confidence, how he ran away! to the capital in order to forget her...I started to inspire and praise him and empathise (which I actually truly truly felt, it was just so painful to listen for my sake!!!). In the morning (after we have barely slept - each of us thinking too much) he said he was feeling very pleasant with me and was very gentle. We discussed how he cannot find the perfect woman, how lonely he feels, I told him he is wrong to humiliate himself, etc (all from Scorpio point of view) and he was saying, yes, yes, yes. He became hypohondriac (made me run to pharmacies looking for pills which I did)...and finally said, please tell me something comforting - and I just said, I feel sad as well, and said good-bye. Two hours later I got a phone call, "I just want to tell you that you are very kind, and I apologise for my behaviour". I said, please don't apologise, you were sincere, now try to be happy and we will keep in touch. Somehow I have the feeling this might end badly for me - being in the role of a friend (mother?) and him finding him another vampire...But I feel for him too strongly, so time will say how right I have been...In addition, he has no contact with her any more (separated 3 mo
(separated 3 months) and said he is very bitter. What do you think could happen? Help!!! My life - such a drama...(needless to say once again how serious, cold and down to earth he looks when not stirred.)
OMG!!! I read thousands of posts earlier but this one seems to be really calling my help!
I am a scorpio rising (aries sun) girl and your story is exactly the one i experienced a year ago.
My very kind advice...
You are a very passionate woman with intense feeling trying to blend mentally as well as physically with your virgo partner (inspite of knowing the FACT that the virgo man can never express his love the same way as you do)
Now you need to do a great sacrifice every time if you really want to stand by his side(would completely ruin your happiness..oh..you will not be happy again if this relationship continues ..i am sorry).This means even after 30 years he would continue to be the same like what you experienced all these days(doesn't care about your emotional feelings and what do you expect out of him).
He is literally using your kind heart(I know you will find a positive reason to speak to him again).
You can never impress him unless you prove to be an independent,tough and not to be easy person to the outer world(forget about your first meetings )..But that is not what you want to be..
You want a person with you would express your love spontaneously without questions in your mind ..to act freely and bold enough to take decisions knowing that it will be always accepted by the other person...
that virgo guy may be loving you truly or good person indeed...but you already wasted your time ..you will be a loser again and again regardless of how true he turns out to be...
very simple ---do you want to stay happy or not? answer this to yourself(I am sure if you continue to speak to him,you will never be happy again..seriously)
you can continue this relationship if u do have pure motive to help him out by sacrificing your own likes and dislikes....
I didn't read anything past the first 5 or 6 sentences, nor will I .... I don't have to because it's all just blabber that could (should) have been expressed on 1 sentence.
Something like ....
Hi, I'm an obssessive Scorpio woman having uncontrolled emotional spikes because I can't help myself - help!
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I am a super confident Scorpio woman (ascendant Sagittarius) or at least I look so. Last summer a Virgo man spotted me in a night club and after he stared at me for two hours he sent his friend (also a Virgo) to say hello. Later on he explained he was fearing rejection hence he didn't come himself. I was feeling nervous too, and we exchanged only business cards. On the next day he called me (said later he was with his friend, and that he was afraid I will not pick up). We exchanged a few formal and nervous words. Then he started with the e-mails, messengers, messages insisting to meet me. Finally after two weeks we scheduled a date. For me it felt like an eternity, I was already head over heels, thinking and obsessing about him every day. I knew it was crazy and early and PLUS I was dating someone else already (a Sagittarius who insisted on being "casual" with me and traveling a lot).
The Virgo arrived for the date, I had to wait for him to shower, change clothes etc. in a very fancy hotel after which we had a very fancy and romantic dinner. We communicated very well, everything was close to perfect, and he mentioned he is looking for a serious partner and the woman of his life (at which point he dropped me big compliments etc.) Shortly after came the MISTAKE. I mentioned to him I am dating someone. He changed his face for seconds and then changed the topic. We went out of the restaurant, dizzy from the wine and kissing each other into the park. I wanted us to go to the same club but instead we got lost and reached his hotel. There he literally dropped me on the bed, pulled me passionately and shortly after...turned his back on me (there was some TV but I felt him quite cold and distant). Being utterly emotional I fell in a panic, could not sleep the whole night, woke up early and thought how I destroyed the romance. Despite this on my mind, I appeared calm and composed, and we sat having coffee in the morning, almost completely silent. He made a couple of more compliments, and then we separated. I sent him a message, I will miss you., to which he replied, "Don't be angry with me. I cannot get over something. You are wonderful. We will see each other again " I was angry, cried, almost three days as I interpreted the message "You were so easy. I am not really into you. I might call you for fun