Question for the ladies

In reading a book titled Lucifers??Court I came across the following:

"The Romans, who admired her as Diana, imagined her as the moon, the familiarissime lumen, the most trustworthy star in their firmament. As the goddess of birth, she is also the goddess of fertility - but this fertility goddess was not conceived in voluptuous Asiatic sensuality. Virginal, she chastely awaits her beloved, who blesses her and makes her a mother, the highest goal of femininity."

Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

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In reading a book titled Lucifers??Court I came across the following:

"The Romans, who admired her as Diana, imagined her as the moon, the familiarissime lumen, the most trustworthy star in their firmament. As the goddess of birth, she is also the goddess of fertility - but this fertility goddess was not conceived in voluptuous Asiatic sensuality. Virginal, she chastely awaits her beloved, who blesses her and makes her a mother, the highest goal of femininity."

Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

People always tell me I am an amazing "mom" to my yorkie puppy 🙂

Sorry didn't mean to annoyingly quote you-lol

"Literally or symbolically?"

Literally. I??ve had women tell me they don't want kids, but eventually... they do. Is this so for everyone? Or are there women who would genuinely be happy with having no children?

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In reading a book titled Lucifers??Court I came across the following:

"The Romans, who admired her as Diana, imagined her as the moon, the familiarissime lumen, the most trustworthy star in their firmament. As the goddess of birth, she is also the goddess of fertility - but this fertility goddess was not conceived in voluptuous Asiatic sensuality. Virginal, she chastely awaits her beloved, who blesses her and makes her a mother, the highest goal of femininity."

Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

People always tell me I am an amazing "mom" to my yorkie puppy 🙂

I saw your yorkie. It's a cutie pie. We have one too, a black 2yr old toy yorkie. It's adorable and doesn't bark. 😉

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Aww thank you 🙂 That was so nice ! Mine is almost 2, he will be in December !

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In reading a book titled Lucifers??Court I came across the following:

"The Romans, who admired her as Diana, imagined her as the moon, the familiarissime lumen, the most trustworthy star in their firmament. As the goddess of birth, she is also the goddess of fertility - but this fertility goddess was not conceived in voluptuous Asiatic sensuality. Virginal, she chastely awaits her beloved, who blesses her and makes her a mother, the highest goal of femininity."

Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

maybe it is a repressed urge for some, that's an interesting thought. i know women put their careers before family with less qualms now than they would have back in the day. i guess it's still slightly taboo, so you can get alot of defensive career women out there.

i don't underestimate broodiness, it's a powerful instinct. personally, i would want to be a perfect mother and i figure i'd have alot of parenting anxieties and mollycoddle my child-that's not cool. i think being domesticated is nice, it conjures up cosy images- but i want to live my life, for me first. and be as selfish as i want.

Interesting. Well, I ask because my interest in having children has always been absolute Zero. When I think in terms of partnership/a relationship, children never fit into the equation.

why do you think that is?

Could be Pisces idealism. I think of sharing my life with a partner in the most ample sense. From travel, to discussion, to everything really, my ideal is living in terms of "us". Other factors or people rarely apply in this light.

i get you. that's where my conflict is. i'm pretty young to be thinking of starting a family, but anyway. i wouldn't know how to meld sharing all those things with my partner with a crying, soiled nappied sprog. it's just...weird, man. o.O

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Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

Speaking for myself, I think if I was crazy about someone then yeah. But I wouldn't have a child for the sake of having a child. Like if I never meet that special person, wouldn't really bother me if I never had kids.

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Do all women, without exception, want to be mothers on some level -even if repressed-?
Would a child-less relationship be ultimately unfulfilling if that were the case?

Speaking for myself, I think if I was crazy about someone then yeah. But I wouldn't have a child for the sake of having a child. Like if I never meet that special person, wouldn't really bother me if I never had kids.

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But if he was equally crazy about you but simply did not want to have kids -in general. as in, not specifically related to not wanting to have kids with you- would that make you unhappy?

I think so, yes. In some form or another it is natural for a woman to be nurturing. In many ways I "mother" my man. I care for him, feed him, clean up after him, and give loving affection. So many men I know want that in their life.

However, I do not think a childless marriage would make every woman feel less maternal. My son was a happy accident, but if I had never had him, I would probably choose not to have children (though I think they're awesome!). I have actually discussed this with my S/O and we're in the same boat. We will raise my son but have no plans to ever have one of our own. Who knows though. We might end up with another happy accident. He is a cancer after all and his mommy desperately wants to be a grandmother (and he's an only child of course).

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But if he was equally crazy about you but simply did not want to have kids -in general. as in, not specifically related to not wanting to have kids with you- would that make you unhappy?

At first yeah, only because I want us to have something to share, but I'd get over it. If I have him that's all that matters really.

1.No
2.No, not at all

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your comments. 🙂

A bit late I suppose but I've always identified strongly with being a mother. Could never imagine not being one. I had 3 children. Two daughters and a son. They are my world. My youngest passed away the summer before her 12th birthday and despite this I would never have wished back her birth if I had known she would. I would have missed out on the most loving and wonderful girl I've ever known. If it were physically possible for me yet I'd love to have another child. I felt very womanly and strong during my pregnancies, beautiful. It would have been a very great sadness to have not had a man on the same page as me about that.

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A bit late I suppose but I've always identified strongly with being a mother. Could never imagine not being one. I had 3 children. Two daughters and a son. They are my world. My youngest passed away the summer before her 12th birthday and despite this I would never have wished back her birth if I had known she would. I would have missed out on the most loving and wonderful girl I've ever known. If it were physically possible for me yet I'd love to have another child. I felt very womanly and strong during my pregnancies, beautiful. It would have been a very great sadness to have not had a man on the same page as me about that.

I'm sorry to hear of your loss VB. Of course, many women have that strong need to be a mother, and I respect that. But I guess I just wanted to know if it was a possibility at all that some women might not want to be, namely, because I don't want any children of my own, and I guess I wanted to know if I could provide a partner with a fulfilling relationship despite this.

Of course you can. 🙂 Some woman are not interested in children of their own.