85yr Old Duchess of Alba Weds 60yr old

This topic was created in the Relationships forum by VirgoVixxxen on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 and has 46 replies.

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I think it's beautiful when one can find love at any age. Many are saying that he only married her for money and status. Well if so, to this I say--JOKES ON HIM, 'cause although she might be an old ass cookie, she's also a smart ass cookie, as she has already divvied up her estimated 4.9 billion wealth between her six children (who were all against the marriage from the beginning). She seems genuinely happy, and they've been friends/have had a courtship for quite some time before saying their vows today.

She - Maria del Rosario Cayetana Alfonsa Victoria Eugenia Francisca Fitz-James Stuart y de Silva is a Spanish Aristocrat with 46 titles to her name--Duchess, Countess, Marchesa (many times over)

He - Alfonso Diez who before becoming the Duke of Alba today, was previously a civil Servant (commoner).

The Bride

The Bride & Groom

This is my fav...she looks so happy. Awwww...it actually brought a tear to my eye.

Yes, she's had some (not so good?) plastic surgery, but she strikes me as a very spirited woman who's full of zest with a great love for life, and physically she looks rather healthy, but I'd still like to ask, does anyone think this man could have ulterior motives? If so, what could they be? All her money is pretty much in the hands of her children now, and while he's the Duke of Alba, what happens if she were to pass before him? Does he still keep the title? Surely if he was just in it for the money he would of backed out when she gave away her wealth?

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at first i was like whats wrong with her face yo but then i saw her younger face and i was like oh, my. i dont think you should worry about it either way cuz honestly why does it matter. im guessing this is someone from the royal family who thinks they are better than everyone else because of the blood and knowledge they have?

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I guess I was worried about her in some small way. 😢 Just that I've heard so many horrible stories of people marrying these older rich folks and taking advantage of their money and status only to break their hearts in the end.

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At 85, I'm sure she made this decision with sound mind. I mean, at that age, you don't really have much else, so there was probably nothing holding her back in the first place. I remember reading about her and how she already gave away her money. To be honest, I feel she gave it away because she is so old and found happiness in her relationship that she didn't really need it.

I know some older people (like my grandmother for one, who is 80) who have no desire to get remarried later in life, especially after divorce, being widowed, ect. And then there are some who would probably get married at 90 if they found the right person again (or for the first time).

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The Duchess got game!! Good for her Maria Caytana Alonso FitzySuper Califradulistic Expialodocious. Her children should mind their own biz. As long as he's not trying to kill her or something like that. Where were their objections during that botox binge? Even if his motives might be more due to her finances she probably doesn't care like hefner with his 20 something girlfriends and he's 1000 years old. Especially if her money is already divided between the kids. Plus 4.9 billion is enough to leave them rich even if he did get a few mill out of it.

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ROFLMAO Terrible. Terribly FUNNY.

In all seriousness I think it's a business arrangement. Companionship based, not desire. If this is what makes her happy in her remaining years, so be it. He does stand to gain an awful lot in the end. I hope both intentions on either side are honorable.

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Posted by everevolvingepithet
She's going to maul him on the night of the honeymoon.
It'll be one of those 'don't judge a book by it's cover' situations lol, bedroom gymnastics etc. It's the eyes that give it away haha.
In all seriousness though, if they're both happy with the set-up then *shrug* fair play to them.

*fidgets* I do hope the surgical titanium holds.

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LMAO Just a tad. With that bank though I'm sure she has doctors on staff. Must be prepared. "Hello Dr. Quackery, yes, this is very important person speaking. I've a rendezvous slated for 10 p.m. after sangria and fine cheeses on the balcony. Please have a full surgical team at the ready."

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He's a Scorp, so I'm sure there's an ulterior motive... all in all, he will make out fine and he knows this as even though he renounced any claim to the House of Alba wealth, I'm sure that she will make provisions for him (she's an Aries).

But, at their age, the union is most likely about companionship above all else.

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The Duchess

Sun Aries 7.01
Moon Virgo 26.13
Mercury Aries 11.58 R
Venus Aquarius 22.53
Mars Aquarius 3.48
Jupiter Aquarius 18.23
Saturn Scorpio 25.40 R
Uranus Pisces 26.06
Neptune Leo 22.20 R
Pluto Cancer 12.37
Lilith Leo 21.55
Asc node Cancer 22.34

The Duke

Sun Scorpio 22.31
Moon Aquarius 7.58
Mercury Sagittarius 0.31
Venus Scorpio 22.53
Mars Capricorn 6.57
Jupiter Aquarius 28.25
Saturn Virgo 29.33
Uranus Cancer 9.05 R
Neptune Libra 18.22
Pluto Leo 19.50
Lilith Gemini 4.19
Asc node Pisces 26.36

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LOL, you guys are a trip.

People are saying some really horrible things about her appearance on the huffingtonpost.com blogs. 😢

She does look weird--but I think still in a cute Whoville/Cat In The Hat/Grinch kinda way.

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Posted by Candeh15
At 85, I'm sure she made this decision with sound mind. I mean, at that age, you don't really have much else, so there was probably nothing holding her back in the first place. I remember reading about her and how she already gave away her money. To be honest, I feel she gave it away because she is so old and found happiness in her relationship that she didn't really need it.

I know some older people (like my grandmother for one, who is 80) who have no desire to get remarried later in life, especially after divorce, being widowed, ect. And then there are some who would probably get married at 90 if they found the right person again (or for the first time).

I say all the best to her.

Sound mind is right. Damnit, he's no Sean Connery, but he ain't half bad. 😉

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Posted by virgodreamz
The Duchess got game!! Good for her Maria Caytana Alonso FitzySuper Califradulistic Expialodocious. Her children should mind their own biz. As long as he's not trying to kill her or something like that. Where were their objections during that botox binge? Even if his motives might be more due to her finances she probably doesn't care like hefner with his 20 something girlfriends and he's 1000 years old. Especially if her money is already divided between the kids. Plus 4.9 billion is enough to leave them rich even if he did get a few mill out of it.

VD! You are hilarious!

Game she HAS got, lol.

This relationship has actually been frowned upon by not only her children, but many in the country of Spain. It's only natural for children to want to protect their parents and not see them be taken advantage of so I can understand their skepticism, but, she still needs to live her life (her way).

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Posted by wgamador2

Posted by everevolvingepithet

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Posted by nimbue
wga....😢 hrfhiokjuygiye8u8u(jh?/

Dont know what that means, but okay.

The spluttering sound of a drink ?

Perhaps she thought I was prince charming or something.
I keep trying to tell the ladies, I'm Prince CHARMIN !!! No 'g' at the end.
Big difference!!!

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nah, it was...you know when you can imagine a smell? i had a sensory short circut

prince charming? going by your avi, more like the lion king 🙂

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Posted by nimbue

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Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by wgamador2

Posted by nimbue
wga....😢 hrfhiokjuygiye8u8u(jh?/

Dont know what that means, but okay.

The spluttering sound of a drink ?

Perhaps she thought I was prince charming or something.
I keep trying to tell the ladies, I'm Prince CHARMIN !!! No 'g' at the end.
Big difference!!!

nah, it was...you know when you can imagine a smell? i had a sensory short circut

prince charming? going by your avi, more like the lion king 🙂

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Aww come on. Im sure they smell nice.
and yeah I love my lion looking up at the moon avi.

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Posted by DeadRingerr
His Moon, sun, mercury and venus are in Scorpio and Sag,,two very stratigically motivated signs. Given where they are place he is looking for money and security. He probably has a hot young babe on the side. Once she kicks the bucket he will get her money and keep his title. Pair up with his true love and live happily ever after...

Actually, as I mentioned previously, he denounced (in a legal, binding document) any right to her wealth. As someone else mentioned, she already divvied up her estate given everything to her kids (although she has control until death). The title automatically goes to her oldest son when she dies, so he doesn't even keep that. However, I believe as an Aries, she is going to make sure his needs will be met if she dies first... he plans on living comfortably until then, not a bad strategy if I do say so myself. Yet, she doesn't plan on dieing before he... she's a widow from 2 prior marriages, her last husband was 11 yrs younger and died in 2001. All in all, I believe it is a business arrangement, primarily for companionship. Wait, every relationship in general is a business arrangement, isn't it?

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At elderly ages, love generally dissolves into companionship; there is less passion, but there still may be hints of intimacy depending on the marriage. Compassionate relationships are generally pretty deep even though they seem empty out the outside (probably do us who are younger).

There is no money involved, so it could be that he married because of her title as duchess, he wants to live comfortably in royalty (so to speak), or that he truly finds enjoyment in her companionship, whether its love or just a deep understanding between them both. I mean, they knew each other for years, so over time, they probably developed a deep bond.

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Posted by DeadRingerr

Posted by lildol

Posted by DeadRingerr
His Moon, sun, mercury and venus are in Scorpio and Sag,,two very stratigically motivated signs. Given where they are place he is looking for money and security. He probably has a hot young babe on the side. Once she kicks the bucket he will get her money and keep his title. Pair up with his true love and live happily ever after...

Actually, as I mentioned previously, he denounced (in a legal, binding document) any right to her wealth. As someone else mentioned, she already divvied up her estate given everything to her kids (although she has control until death). The title automatically goes to her oldest son when she dies, so he doesn't even keep that. However, I believe as an Aries, she is going to make sure his needs will be met if she dies first... he plans on living comfortably until then, not a bad strategy if I do say so myself. Yet, she doesn't plan on dieing before he... she's a widow from 2 prior marriages, her last husband was 11 yrs younger and died in 2001. All in all, I believe it is a business arrangement, primarily for companionship. Wait, every relationship in general is a business arrangement, isn't it?

My first one wasnt but I learned....I dont think he's in it for the amazing good looks and juicy pussy!!

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RIGHT, yours wasn't in it for the looks either!

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Posted by DeadRingerr

Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Crap! Don't know why that^^posted like that.

Anyway, this is the Duchess in her younger years pre-plastic surgery. Very beautiful lady.

Wow...very beautiful...some people cant understand the meaning of "growing old gracefully".

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Wasn't she? A classic beauty. I could understand a little nip and tuck here or there, but, she looks like a completely different person now. These Plastic Surgeons should be ashamed of themselves. Ashamed I say!

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Posted by lildol

Posted by DeadRingerr
His Moon, sun, mercury and venus are in Scorpio and Sag,,two very stratigically motivated signs. Given where they are place he is looking for money and security. He probably has a hot young babe on the side. Once she kicks the bucket he will get her money and keep his title. Pair up with his true love and live happily ever after...

Actually, as I mentioned previously, he denounced (in a legal, binding document) any right to her wealth. As someone else mentioned, she already divvied up her estate given everything to her kids (although she has control until death). The title automatically goes to her oldest son when she dies, so he doesn't even keep that. However, I believe as an Aries, she is going to make sure his needs will be met if she dies first... he plans on living comfortably until then, not a bad strategy if I do say so myself. Yet, she doesn't plan on dieing before he... she's a widow from 2 prior marriages, her last husband was 11 yrs younger and died in 2001. All in all, I believe it is a business arrangement, primarily for companionship. Wait, every relationship in general is a business arrangement, isn't it?

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This is good to know.

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Posted by Candeh15
At elderly ages, love generally dissolves into companionship; there is less passion, but there still may be hints of intimacy depending on the marriage. Compassionate relationships are generally pretty deep even though they seem empty out the outside (probably do us who are younger).

There is no money involved, so it could be that he married because of her title as duchess, he wants to live comfortably in royalty (so to speak), or that he truly finds enjoyment in her companionship, whether its love or just a deep understanding between them both. I mean, they knew each other for years, so over time, they probably developed a deep bond.

Very true.

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Posted by VirgoVixxxen

Posted by DeadRingerr

Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Crap! Don't know why that^^posted like that.

Anyway, this is the Duchess in her younger years pre-plastic surgery. Very beautiful lady.

Wow...very beautiful...some people cant understand the meaning of "growing old gracefully".

Wasn't she? A classic beauty. I could understand a little nip and tuck here or there, but, she looks like a completely different person now. These Plastic Surgeons should be ashamed of themselves. Ashamed I say!

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Well, you can blame the plastic surgeon for continuing to do their job lol, but you can also blame the individual for going back over and over and over, unless they have some sort of undocumented body dysmorphia.