Single Men vs Single Women

So I've always heard single women complain how hard it is for dating. There are no good men, no one's available, etc. Especially being on these boards, it seems like women are always getting the run around, men playing games, and such.

But I also have several male platonic single friends who make it seem like it's waaaayyy worse for them while trying to date. A lot of them will just effectively give up and go back to ex's or women they are not truly happy with because they say it's so hard.

So is dating really that hard for guys? Do they have it worse than us women? I don't ever see that many guys complaining on here, so are all the guys I know just big pessimistic babies? Lol

Posted by thisismylife2015

So is dating really that hard for guys? Do they have it worse than us women? I don't ever see that many guys complaining on here, so are all the guys I know just big pessimistic babies? Lol

I'd agree with your guy friends, especially after the early 30s.
There is a pretty good chance an available female has one or more kids in tow, is still carrying baggage, or is still climbing the escalator in the "Man Store" oblivious to what happens at the top level.
They usually have an agenda beyond enjoying each other's company and sharing common interests and learning to appreciate each other's interests. It's usually about that time they start collecting cats.

^each other's differences

You don't see them here maybe because they don't whine like we do? :p

Posted by CancerOnTheCusp

Posted by thisismylife2015

So is dating really that hard for guys? Do they have it worse than us women? I don't ever see that many guys complaining on here, so are all the guys I know just big pessimistic babies? Lol

I'd agree with your guy friends, especially after the early 30s.
There is a pretty good chance an available female has one or more kids in tow, is still carrying baggage, or is still climbing the escalator in the "Man Store" oblivious to what happens at the top level.
They usually have an agenda beyond enjoying each other's company and sharing common interests and learning to appreciate each other's interests. It's usually about that time they start collecting cats.

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#1 - Lol @ the "Man Store"
#2 - Now I'm curious as to these agendas
#3 - Should I be concerned about the women I know in their 30's with cats?

I suprisingly know a lot of women and men in their mid-late 30's without kids. But the guys with kids that are single complain just as much as the guys without kids.

Posted by Teena
You don't see them here maybe because they don't whine like we do? :p

Lol. They just privately whine to their female friends I think.

I am 34 years, single and no kids.... DO I want kids yeah and no..Have I found love no, am I looking of course, but I think the searching ends and let nature take its course. I am mother earth...

I probably take things very serious when I do start dating. I met tons of cool guys that had kids. I met single guys that have no kids, be disrespectful.. I see couples who have kids and walk separately far apart from each toher. The woman always looks sad..I am Lilith in Scorpio, Cancer rising, Moon in Aquarius, and Neptune in Saggitarius... I pick up on things very quickly about the other person..

each other...I have always had an open mind with people who had kids. Considering I didn't have kids myself would I accept it and compromise. If we had plans and he cancelled.. It was because of his kids or no babysitter.. Single no kids people can do whatever they want until they both talk about exclusivity.. monogamous.. Even meet people who live with the wives but are not together, live in separate bedrooms...

a crazy man once said 80% of women are searching for 20% of men. he was 24 by then and had no intention to be in a relationship (just to be mentioned).

clooney ... I think it's probably a good thing that you don't date women with kids. From a different perspective, men that do date women with kids seem to have the wrong idea about their role in their lives. From my pov, no woman should introduce her kids to her date until that relationship has moved on from the dating phase to commitment. The role that man plays in her children's lives is a difficult one, to say the least, and should be well mapped before undertaking.

Some women look for a man to "be a father figure" for their kids because their children do not have one that is active in their lives. Hopefully, they find a man who is a good role model as this can be extremely beneficial for those kids.
Other than that, the kids already have a father. The new guy needs to take a back seat, so to speak, and this can be very difficult for them. From my experiences, it is just as difficult for the man to know the line he can't cross as it is for the woman to explain it to him. I have a golden rule of balance. A man does not have liberty to discipline my kids if he has not given at least a handful of "pats on the back" for other behaviours that warrant it. He is not a babysitter, or a pocketbook to buy groceries but he does have a responsibility towards my kids of being an example of a good man with integrity. If he is not that, he is out the door.

As far as dating in general, it seems both genders are confused about the role they should play no matter the age group. Women look less for a provider now than they did say, ten years ago. Men have been raised to be a provider but realize that women focus less on a man's ability to provide than a man's ability to reason and communicate. The confusion in dating will be resolved when we begin to teach our daughters that Prince Charming does not exist (and to be successful in their own right) and our son's to communicate and express themselves (with words, not fists). It's all in the balance of power, not in the ownership of power.

Its easier for woman now. Don't have to put up with shit for too long just enough to hate the person for ever.. Good riddance..

That is the hard thing about dating someone with kids. Just be there for the man whole heartedly and can't really do much with the kids.. So that is why you should have your own kids, lol.. Yeah too dangerous bringing in strangers around your kids as well when you don't know shit about the person you are with.. Especially online dating single guys with kids...just be patient and wait...

bottom line women are dumb

Posted by thisismylife2015

But I also have several male platonic single friends who make it seem like it's waaaayyy worse for them while trying to date. A lot of them will just effectively give up and go back to ex's or women they are not truly happy with because they say it's so hard.

Remember this is coming from the gender who thinks it's the end of the world when they have a cold.

Also the same gender who relates "dating" to "getting laid."

If they aren't getting laid, yes, dating is that much "worse" for them. Their goals are to get laid. Women's goals are to get a relationship.

That's why dating sucks for both- women are trying to find a relationship with a dating pool of guys where a large portion are out solely for getting laid purposes, and guys are trying to find easy ways to get laid in a pool of women who are trying to find something more serious.

That said, I think women do tend to have it worse because they're trying not to be emotionally fucked over for some guy's selfish crotch urges, whereas these guys are merely being put into a place of inconvenience for their little urges.


(Not mentioned but not overlooked- the morons who fall for stupid bitches who they shouldn't be dating to begin with. That's just poor decision making on their part.)

Posted by tiziani
It gets easier as you push yourself to meet people. And actually talk with genuine interest.

I think that applies to both sides. But I'm not in my thirties yet so no idea what that's like.

Beats me, it's been the same for me since forever. Although apparently I don't age.

Well if the woman is not able to have kids of their own for medical issues. Why not date someone who has kids by someone else..Now a single parent with out the mother of the kids there , not in the picture at all. Rock on, no problems there. Get to know each other and their kids whole heartedly.

Bottom line is,.. Oh too much demand not enough supply(substance) from the guys. Woman are simple.