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How to get a scorpio moon guy open up?
He's having Sun, Mercury and Venus in Capricorn which further adds to his secretive nature
Posted by champrangerPosted by anna1
So I am in a relationship with this guy (moon and mars both in scorpio) we are in a committed relationship and planning to get married in a near future. He tells me all the time that he loves me and if we get into a fight I am the one who starts the fight and he is the one to finish it. He makes serious efforts all the time to keep me with him. But still after two years his walls are still there he never ever shares his feeling or secrets with me. I know he is very deep but still wondering about his real intentions after two year of relationship
My question is that how can I get him open up about his feelings and real intentions. What should I do to lower his guards?
I think the harder you try to get him to open up, the harder he will resist in opening up.
Why do you think he has other intentions if he had already stayed with you for 2 years and tells you that he loves you?click to expand
My intuitions and his secretive nature is compelling me to think. Also sometimes he behave quite strange
Posted by fishinamaize
also, maybe stop starting fights with him. that'll go a long way.
please go into a little bit detail what are you trying to say
I read somewhere that scorpio reveals secrets on "Need to know" basis. So I put questions now and then but he never seem to reaveal all that he is holding inside
Don't.
What type of questions I am not supposed to ask? Also I ask him such questions like what's up? Where are you going? Reasons? . If i'll not ask such questions he will never tell me on his own that what's happening in his life
Posted by mariathesag
What do you want to know anyway.
If you are wondering if he hides dark thoughts, harsh and cruel feelings and less than noble intentions.. then, most likely he does.
I just want to know whether he's ever going to reveal such deeps secrets in front of me? If so. HOW
Posted by anna1
I know he is very deep but still wondering about his real intentions after two year of relationship...
Posted by anna1
So I am in a relationship with this guy...we are in a committed relationship and planning to get married in a near future...click to expand
😕?
1) doesn't the very first statement of your post state his "intentions"?
2) if you do not believe he is genuine and is hiding something (referring back to the word "intentions") why would you plan to marry him?
Posted by anna1
I read somewhere that scorpio reveals secrets on "Need to know" basis. So I put questions now and then but he never seem to reaveal all that he is holding inside
Posted by anna1
He's having Sun, Mercury and Venus in Capricorn...click to expand
Better question for the Cap board I would think given his specs.
....so we have another one....
Carry on.
Posted by mariathesagPosted by anna1Posted by mariathesag
What do you want to know anyway.
If you are wondering if he hides dark thoughts, harsh and cruel feelings and less than noble intentions.. then, most likely he does.
I just want to know whether he's ever going to reveal such deeps secrets in front of me? If so. HOW
anna1, maybe i'm missing something here or I just don't understand you, but what is the significance of him revealing himself to you?click to expand
Your lines" If you are wondering if he hides dark thoughts, harsh ad cruel feelings and less than noble intentions.. then, most likely he does." scorpio moons can use their energies for good or for bad it depends on individuals. As a Capricorn moon I feel very insecure when everything is not clear. If I have made a commitment its for a lifetime Its my right to know all his dark and deep secrets.
At this moment every thing is fine between us he even took me to meet his mother and I really love him. But our present is not every thing for me I think about our future more than the present. I don't want to discover some bitter truth about him in the future which I would not be able to accept. That's why I want him to open up now
Posted by Rambunctious76Posted by CluelessCancer
cause he doesn't trust me not to give him advice or use his information against him. lol he's right. cause i use anyting i learn to ask him even more questions and try to control him.
^^THIS is one reason why you don't push us to reveal ourselves.
Be content that he says he loves you. When we love, we love 110% .
Just don't force us to show all of ourselves to you, because that would mean being totally at your mercy.click to expand
I was speaking to my Pisces/Cancer moon friend last night on the phone and we were talking about how I don't share with anyone and he is one of the few I have let in my close circle of trust. He has been put to the test to see if he would ever use anything I said to hurt me in a malicious way. He has NEVER, so I can tell him almost anything.
If they or he feels that you will use anything when angry against him he will NOT open up. I would, maybe, tell him that you feel he is guarded. Communication isn't a bad thing.... I married a Moon in Scorpio man, he was the same way. He and I shared too much of the same energy it's not a good thing. hahaha
Do you pick fights with him to make him fight for you?
Posted by starloverPosted by TokerXPosted by starlover
I was in relationships with three Scorp Moon men ~ they were all closed off and secretive. One of them was a secret gambler and we lost a lot of money...he was addicted to slot machines. He was also very moody
The other two were too close to their mothers and also lied to them
Probably nothing to do with being a Scorp Moon. I've never gambled in my life and I'm certainly not close to my mother, hardly speak to her (so no lying either). 😛
And we're closed off and secretive? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? 😉
We are talking about emotional closing down/not opening up ~ The moon has everything to do with that in astrology (go read about it on any astro website). Scorpio is not happy in the moon placement...
What are you talking about with the pot thing?
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I agree the men that have had this Moon sign, the more you reveal their hidden side the more they will open up to you. My ex had a lot of hidden secrets and he has told me even to this day that I have made him face stuff that he never would have. No one and I mean NO ONE ever pushed as hard to find out those hidden things. Everyone thought he was perfect!! I felt it and well if Scorpio is about revealing secrets, I am all in. If I feel something is off, I don't let up until I am able to figure it out or ask the universe to help show me.
My gf did the same thing, she exposed him and he is so close with her and really working on himself to prove he isn't going to be the same.
Posted by TokerXPosted by Rambunctious76
@TokerX : Not all Scorp suns are as closed off and secretive as Moon Scorps - if anything, I think us Moon Scorps take the cake when it comes to closing people off emotionally and shutting ourselves in for fear of getting hurt. We can be emotionally more extreme than Scorp suns.
Not all to sure about that. I always start out very open (yes I'm that naive) and I will only close off if you give me a reason to.
I'm even so open that people can read emotions in things I write apathically. Lol. 🙂
Oh and my psychologist (yes I'm actually seeing one to keep those emotions at bay) already had me figured out after 1 hour of talking.click to expand
Maybe you starting out very open, has something to do with your gemini sun?
Posted by Rambunctious76Posted by TokerXPosted by Rambunctious76
@TokerX : Not all Scorp suns are as closed off and secretive as Moon Scorps - if anything, I think us Moon Scorps take the cake when it comes to closing people off emotionally and shutting ourselves in for fear of getting hurt. We can be emotionally more extreme than Scorp suns.
Not all to sure about that. I always start out very open (yes I'm that naive) and I will only close off if you give me a reason to.
I'm even so open that people can read emotions in things I write apathically. Lol. 🙂
I am the opposite. I start off all closed up and shit, and will only open up IF the person trying to reach out doesn't give me bad vibes. Or piss me off royally.
And revenge? I dish it out when you think my back is turned and I don't care.click to expand
Aries sun?
Posted by NoreallynowPosted by TokerXPosted by Rambunctious76
@TokerX : Not all Scorp suns are as closed off and secretive as Moon Scorps - if anything, I think us Moon Scorps take the cake when it comes to closing people off emotionally and shutting ourselves in for fear of getting hurt. We can be emotionally more extreme than Scorp suns.
Not all to sure about that. I always start out very open (yes I'm that naive) and I will only close off if you give me a reason to.
I'm even so open that people can read emotions in things I write apathically. Lol. 🙂
Oh and my psychologist (yes I'm actually seeing one to keep those emotions at bay) already had me figured out after 1 hour of talking.
Maybe you starting out very open, has something to do with your gemini sun?click to expand
Gem Sun, here, and I don't open up to anyone like that in the beginning. Not happening!!
Well I admit that I am a little bit insecure I was not insecure in the beginning of our relationship it has something to do with his behavior. He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know. Every once in a while I come to know some kind of bitter truth about him after every month or so. I am Feeling emotionally drained
But still I love him alot. Cannot even think about a breakup.
Posted by WateryGemWateryGem I have mentioned the reason abovePosted by Rambunctious76Posted by CluelessCancer
cause he doesn't trust me not to give him advice or use his information against him. lol he's right. cause i use anyting i learn to ask him even more questions and try to control him.
^^THIS is one reason why you don't push us to reveal ourselves.
Be content that he says he loves you. When we love, we love 110% .
Just don't force us to show all of ourselves to you, because that would mean being totally at your mercy.
I was speaking to my Pisces/Cancer moon friend last night on the phone and we were talking about how I don't share with anyone and he is one of the few I have let in my close circle of trust. He has been put to the test to see if he would ever use anything I said to hurt me in a malicious way. He has NEVER, so I can tell him almost anything.
If they or he feels that you will use anything when angry against him he will NOT open up. I would, maybe, tell him that you feel he is guarded. Communication isn't a bad thing.... I married a Moon in Scorpio man, he was th same way. He and I shared too much of the same energy it's not a good thing. hahaha
Do you pick fights with him to make him fight for you?click to expand
Posted by TokerXPosted by WateryGemPosted by NoreallynowPosted by TokerXPosted by Rambunctious76
@TokerX : Not all Scorp suns are as closed off and secretive as Moon Scorps - if anything, I think us Moon Scorps take the cake when it comes to closing people off emotionally and shutting ourselves in for fear of getting hurt. We can be emotionally more extreme than Scorp suns.
Not all to sure about that. I always start out very open (yes I'm that naive) and I will only close off if you give me a reason to.
I'm even so open that people can read emotions in things I write apathically. Lol. 🙂
Oh and my psychologist (yes I'm actually seeing one to keep those emotions at bay) already had me figured out after 1 hour of talking.
Maybe you starting out very open, has something to do with your gemini sun?
Gem Sun, here, and I don't open up to anyone like that in the beginning. Not happening!!
And Mercury is in...?click to expand
6th house
Posted by anna1
Well I admit that I am a little bit insecure I was not insecure in the beginning of our relationship it has something to do with his behavior. He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know. Every once in a while I come to know some kind of bitter truth about him after every month or so. I am Feeling emotionally drained
This. You get him to open up by not being so judgmental about his truths and be more secure with yourself. Maybe your insecurities keep him from telling you the truth because maybe he thinks you are too insecure to handle the truth (and he doesn't want to hurt you or scare you away) or are too judgmental. Because some of the things he's lying about are silly things to be lying about. Idk. Just a thought. Also I'm just browsing through so I didn't get the full story, do excuse me if I'm off, but maybe you should open up and show him more of your private secrets or thoughts, put more trust in him. He may feel compelled to return that trust. Good luck!
Posted by IllaLupus
Did you say he had mars in scorp too?
I was with someone for almost 2 years I can tell you truthfully.. He didn't really know me, it was surface level 100% . Trust is what will let you in, but that's hard to earn and as a lunar scorp even thinking about trusting someone makes me shudder..
Lunar scorps are famous for their all or nothing behavior, they are very famous for their deep and intense relationships, just wondering how can you people keep a surface level relationships ?
In our relationship I am the one who really don't want a surface level relationship I want a deep and satisfying one So when and how will you trust someone ? How can i make him trust me ? Please answer this as detailed as possible
and yes he also have his moon, Pluto, mars all in a big globby conjunction in Scorpio. lol
Posted by Rambunctious76small eccentricities.click to expand
Lol these small eccentricities are not actually small for others. Great information though
Posted by Rambunctious76
I was speaking to my Pisces/Cancer moon friend last night on the phone and we were talking about how I don't share with anyone and he is one of the few I have let in my close circle of trust. He has been put to the test to see if he would ever use anything I said to hurt me in a malicious way. He has NEVER, so I can tell him almost anything.
If they or he feels that you will use anything when angry against him he will NOT open up. I would, maybe, tell him that you feel he is guarded. Communication isn't a bad thing.... I married a Moon in Scorpio man, he was the same way. He and I shared too much of the same energy it's not a good thing. hahaha
When I realise someone is using something against me, I tend to gradually shut them out from my life. I've done this to several people, including my immediate family members.
The only people I truly trust are the forgetful ones (hahaha) or the ones who don't have a problem with my small eccentricities.
Posted by NemesisPosted by anna1
But still I love him alot. Cannot even think about a breakup.
whenever i have felt "forced" to open up - the oyster effect sets in. there are things i will not share - not because i don't trust or love - but because that person is way better off not knowing.
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Thank you so much for your great insights 🙂
Posted by StarMooneyPosted by anna1
Well I admit that I am a little bit insecure I was not insecure in the beginning of our relationship it has something to do with his behavior. He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know. Every once in a while I come to know some kind of bitter truth about him after every month or so. I am Feeling emotionally drained
This. You get him to open up by not being so judgmental about his truths and be more secure with yourself. Maybe your insecurities keep him from telling you the truth because maybe he thinks you are too insecure to handle the truth (and he doesn't want to hurt you or scare you away) or are too judgmental. Because some of the things he's lying about are silly things to be lying about. Idk. Just a thought. Also I'm just browsing through so I didn't get the full story, do excuse me if I'm off, but maybe you should open up and show him more of your private secrets or thoughts, put more trust in him. He may feel compelled to return that trust. Good luck!click to expand
Thank You i will definitely try not to judge him that often lol
Posted by IllaLupus
I couldn't be with a liar.. I'm sorry to hear that. A relationship that drains you isn't a good one... Perhaps get a breath of fresh air? It's unealthy to be with a person like that.
Posted by starlover
...and anna, you shouldnt be feeling drained if the relationship is good for you. i felt the same with the last guy...totally drained from all his weird private hidden stuff...am so relieved now to be out of it
you will feel much better with someone who is open and straight with you....click to expand
I really love him a lot and i Don't want to lose him. I believe that there is no such thing as a perfect relationship but we can try to overcome the hurdles by giving our best. Plus there is no guarantee that if i will break up with him i will get someone who is better. i have invested my time, energy and emotions in this relationship with a hope that it will get better with the passage of time 🙂
Posted by starloverPosted by mariathesagPosted by anna1
Well I admit that I am a little bit insecure I was not insecure in the beginning of our relationship it has something to do with his behavior. He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know. Every once in a while I come to know some kind of bitter truth about him after every month or so. I am Feeling emotionally drained
It just sounds like everytime you let those "little things" pass, your self respect dies a little death.
That happens to quite a few women ~ good to spend some time alone to build up the self esteem ~ sometimes it is not until we are away from a situation that we can see the truth of it clealyclick to expand
Anna, you might want to listen to them. You've seen enough of this guy to tell you that he could be not what you thought. So maybe taking a step back for a little while would give you a chance to breathe and think for yourself?
As a moon in scorp, venus in cap you wont get words of affirmation but alot of service.
Especially as a venus in cappy, I dont talk marriage with any ol riff raff
I find that people must feel my emotions, talking about it is futile.
Posted by anna1Posted by IllaLupus
Did you say he had mars in scorp too?
I was with someone for almost 2 years I can tell you truthfully.. He didn't really know me, it was surface level 100% . Trust is what will let you in, but that's hard to earn and as a lunar scorp even thinking about trusting someone makes me shudder..
Lunar scorps are famous for their all or nothing behavior, they are very famous for their deep and intense relationships, just wondering how can you people keep a surface level relationships ?
In our relationship I am the one who really don't want a surface level relationship I want a deep and satisfying one So when and how will you trust someone ? How can i make him trust me ? Please answer this as detailed as possible
and yes he also have his moon, Pluto, mars all in a big globby conjunction in Scorpio. lolclick to expand
We crave and desire such relationships but it is VERY difficult for me at least to let someone in that deep. The more I see into someone and the more vulnerable they are, the more they never use anything I have entrusted with them to not throw back in my face, the more I will open up. I even noticed it's the tone of voice, someone seeing deeper into me, someone wanting to accept me, not judging me but making me feel safe.
My ex moon in Scorpio is the same way, as I described about myself. We would feel tons but keep it to ourselves, we will cry quietly. Trust with us is key, showing that you are care, questions are good, try to show he is safe with you. If he does open up, just know he will be super soft inside, just like my ex. I can hurt him easily with my words even to this day.
It's all about your approach... I have let one man in all the way, he was able to get in b/c he wasn't directly in front of me.
Posted by IllaLupus
Did you say he had mars in scorp too?
For me honestly I come off as being secretive even when I'm not, Sometimes yeah it may seem like I'm hiding something because I will behave in such a way but I'm not. Lunar scorps seldom let people in, I was with someone for almost 2 years I can tell you truthfully.. He didn't really know me, it was surface level 100% . Trust is what will let you in, but that's hard to earn and as a lunar scorp even thinking about trusting someone makes me shudder..
If he wants to marry you, that means he wants to be with you... We don't stick around and want to marry someone unless those feelings and intentions are true. Why waste time spending your life with someone you don't actually want to be with..?
When we truly love someone, our loyalty is golden.. (Unless you've got Venus in Gemini lawl).
[me: moon, Pluto, mars all in a big globby conjunction in Scorpio]
Or sun in gemini
Posted by starlover
anna, read this back again to yourself
He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know.
..and the list goes on? he is a liar, a secret gambler...he backbited you to his family? you are going to marry this guy??
why?
+1
Why would you want to be with a man who smiles in your face and then talk shit behind your back? He's a backstabber. To me that's like betrayal.
Don't let him keep lying to you. If he keeps lying to you, he doesn't respect you.
Posted by IllaLupus
I was young, this was years ago, I blame my Libran nature for sticking with it, he wasn't worth it and never gave me a reason to let him in... So I tip toed through the tulips till I could take no more.. Having a surface level relationship was not good, but it saved me in the end.. And allowed me to walk away like he didn't exist. Besides I couldn't get deep with an Aries sun, Sagittarius moon. He was all about the surface haha!
Anna what is his full chart? Post a picture. I'm sure that would help a lot.. Because I'm curious to know what his other placements are and what is aspecting his moon and such. Have you expressed how you feel genuinely? Perhaps he's hiding things from you because he feels like he can't be open with you again lack of trust would cause that. It takes me an extremely long time to develop trust for someone, to be honest it's quite scary. I wouldn't open up to someone I don't trust, and if began to develop some I'd open up like a turtle.. Poke my head out and see if its safe to continue letting them in lol.
As for communication mercury is where you look for that so please do post his chart. 🙂
You can look at his chart here
http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/annawilliams4/media/astro_w2gw_02_david_hp3399625408_zpsb0f63fed.gif.html?o=2
you can also have a look on mine from the same link 🙂
Posted by SilverScorpioPosted by starloverPosted by mariathesagPosted by anna1
Well I admit that I am a little bit insecure I was not insecure in the beginning of our relationship it has something to do with his behavior. He lies to me about little things he even lied about his mother tongue, his age and the list goes on and on. he backbited me to his family he also a gambler which I accidently came to know. Every once in a while I come to know some kind of bitter truth about him after every month or so. I am Feeling emotionally drained
It just sounds like everytime you let those "little things" pass, your self respect dies a little death.
That happens to quite a few women ~ good to spend some time alone to build up the self esteem ~ sometimes it is not until we are away from a situation that we can see the truth of it clealy
Anna, you might want to listen to them. You've seen enough of this guy to tell you that he could be not what you thought. So maybe taking a step back for a little while would give you a chance to breathe and think for yourself?click to expand
You all were correc. Today I have decided to break a contactt with him for some days. I am really in need of a breal. It may or may not turn into breakup.
He told me another lie but this time its a little big one. He rejected the truth and blamed me for doing a thing that I never did
Posted by WhatuPosted by anna1Posted by mariathesag
What do you want to know anyway.
If you are wondering if he hides dark thoughts, harsh and cruel feelings and less than noble intentions.. then, most likely he does.
I just want to know whether he's ever going to reveal such deeps secrets in front of me? If so. HOW
Or maybe he actually has, Maybe those secrets are not verbal or what ever you expect. Maybe they are the way he kisses you or that place he took you once that was special to him but you got bored because there was not enough going on there, and because it was not all about you. Maybe what you have right now is all you will ever have with him but you don't appreciate this, as it is, right now.
You can't have your cake and eat it to.click to expand
Please pay attention to this.
aries have HIGH expectations and are truly never satisfied or really appreciate what ppl do for them because they would want something different.
Posted by anna1Posted by IllaLupus
Did you say he had mars in scorp too?
I was with someone for almost 2 years I can tell you truthfully.. He didn't really know me, it was surface level 100% . Trust is what will let you in, but that's hard to earn and as a lunar scorp even thinking about trusting someone makes me shudder..
Lunar scorps are famous for their all or nothing behavior, they are very famous for their deep and intense relationships, just wondering how can you people keep a surface level relationships ?
In our relationship I am the one who really don't want a surface level relationship I want a deep and satisfying one So when and how will you trust someone ? How can i make him trust me ? Please answer this as detailed as possible
and yes he also have his moon, Pluto, mars all in a big globby conjunction in Scorpio. lolclick to expand
what people dont realize is that the SECOND a scorp moon takes an interest in you, it is no longer a surface level relationship. things are getting heavier and deeper and if you yourself are not as in tune with whats going on around you, youll miss everything were throwing at you. The minute you say, hi. the minute you look us in the eye. your fucked and so are we.
your in a deep and satisfying relationship, your just not paying attention.
and your picking fights trying to coerce him into opening up. He's sees that.
i said it b4 and i will say it again. venus in caps dont speak about our feelings alot. thats not our language. His moon may make him seemed detached but oh no, hes very much alive and in the moment.
i said it b4 and i will say it again. venus in caps dont speak about our feelings alot. thats not our language. His moon may make him seemed detached but oh no, hes very much alive and in the moment.
Posted by anna1
He told me another lie but this time its a little big one. He rejected the truth and blamed me for doing a thing that I never did
How old is he?
Posted by WateryGemPosted by anna1
He told me another lie but this time its a little big one. He rejected the truth and blamed me for doing a thing that I never did
How old is he?click to expand
He is 29 years old and I am 24
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