I'M WAITING SCORP 25......

It has been my experience that Scorps sabbotage their own relationships by suffocating their partners... It is not possible for ANYONE to be happy in a relationship when you have to be aware AT ALL TIMES of your behaviour (his jealousy which is totally unfounded) and who you may and may not be friendly with, (not to mention the fact that you have to account for your every move) (you are even expected to disown your own family because he is not even willing to share you with them) etc. etc. Scorp moods and criticism of people, their unrealistic ideals for their partner, their suspicion, their over active immagination etc. etc. It is so sad because it is usually totally unnecessary when you know that the particular Scorp is a wonderfull person at heart but won't believe you telling him so and refuses to believe in himself. Why so insecure?? (Had a brief relationship with one who was very good looking, very good lover, very attentive, very intellegent, etc. could even be very gentle at times, (very cruel other times), but for the above reasons, it was destined to fail). (He was 28 at the time)

I am the person who wrote a previous message about dreaming of the perfect lover... He was almost THE ONE and could have been ... if we could have lived on some deserted island..

Yet he broke my heart and almost destroyed me..

Reading Scorp 25's message has woken all the feelings and memories.. Good and Bad...

The perfect Lover in heart, mind and soul but not able to have a sensible, stable relationship with a mere mortal like me...

I am now married to a LEO. He is a wonderful husband and has the generous heart of a lion..

BUT HE IS NOT THE LOVER I FOUND IN THE SCORP...

He is also married now, but still finds excuses to phone me and would like to see me.. I have been VERY tempted but have (of course) not done this YET! I am terrified of what the result might be...

Does Scorp 25 have an opinion??

You see thats what Ive been saying all along .. You other signs piss and moan about our jealousy yet you seek us out for the great sex or whatever. Its all about choices and if you choose to be with one of us then who is really at fault. The above is even contemplating being unfaithful to her Leo husband. Seems to me that Scorpio is well within their rights to cast a suspicious eye upon their significant others associations because its obvious that the majority of the population doesnt know what fidelity means. Too bad we do............

I'm with ya 100% on that one!

Me too!!! Well said, you got right to the point.

phoenix_rising

scorp 25

First of all, 168.209.98.35, let me apologize for the people that addressed your post out of turn and also quite harshly. However, there is a universal principle at work here I hope you will learn from. You threw judgment out into the universe and it came right back at you multiplied.

This man you are writing of does not seem to me to be representative of a real scorpio, and if he is he is quite immature and hypocritical, regardless of his physical age.

It has never been my personal experience to ever sabotage a relationship or suffocate a partner. I'm very clear-cut about such things. I simply will not tolerate overly-flirtatious, disloyal or disrespectful partners in my life. The second someone demonstrates that they habitually do these things even after I've discussed my feelings about them, I'll just end it right then and there. If my feelings are irrelevant, I'll just find someone who thinks otherwise. I never bother trying to change people - it's neither fair or necessary. To me, freedom in a relationship is paramount. People need time and space to make their own decisions and follow their own dreams.

With scorpios, trust is everything. When the trust isn't there, I can certainly see one manifesting such behaviors. IMO, though, this is not the norm. In my personal life, when I decide someone has clearly demonstrated their loyalty over a long period of time I don't question it again, though I will not hesitate to mention concerns if my intuition picks anything up about any of the family or friends in my partner's life.

Most of the scorps I know in my personal life are indeed very jealous, as I believe they should be. Who in their right mind is going to open up their emotions and sexuality to someone who's going to expose them to danger, pain or betrayal? Not a real scorp. People vastly underestimate how sensitive we are inside and how much we hurt when betrayed with things of this nature.

Any scorp that rushes things in relationships without allowing time for trust to mature and be justified is heading for trouble of his/her own creation. This man's mistakes are simply his mistakes, not a weakness in the class. If he didn't trust you, then that's his personal issue. Why he would allow himself to be in a close relationship with someone he wouldn't trust with his life is simply beyond me.

Devotion, loyalty, and respect operate at ferocious levels in the scorpio mind and his actions do not reflect this IMO.

If he would even hint at betraying his own wife, I don't doubt you're just next in line. Not much of a scorpio and certainly not much of a man from my point of view. To the thief, everyone seems to be a thief. To the disloyal man, regardless of whether he is a scorpio or not, no partner will ever be trustworthy and all types of extreme behaviors will certainly manifest. No man or woman can break universal laws and escape the consequences. I've seen many try, and not a single one has ever pulled it off.

A scorpio that has laid a firm foundation - an immovable bed of trust solidified over time - is perfectly capable of having a stable, life-long relationship with his/her chosen partner. Personally, if I was you I'd ditch him faster than if he was leprous. He's corrupt on the inside and who knows what he's capable of doing?

I know the responsibility of who I open my life up to is mine and mine alone. You also have the same responsibility. Choose wisely, because no one is exempt from the laws of the universe.

Take care

scorp 25

damn, cancer male here, my brother and the woman that i will love for the rest of my life are scopios, they even share the same birth day, and man you nailed that. and thats what i love about yall

Me too!!! I have just one question for you Scorp 25. How do you feel about chocolate or champange? :0

"The second someone demonstrates that they habitually do these things even after I've discussed my feelings about them, I'll just end it right then and there. If my feelings are irrelevant, I'll just find someone who thinks otherwise."

This is another reason I love Scorps so much. Look at the love in these few words. What a great heart. He said that the second you cross the line on a regular basis your in trouble! How can anyone not love these protective and loving people. All you have to do is a few simple things, and you will never be loved so much in all your life!!! Why would someone want to abuse that privelage?

scorp 25:

I have enjoyed reading your posts and respect your opinions and the manner in which you articulate them. However, please do not "apologize for" me. I still agree with 152; I feel that the poster made a very accurate and no-nonsense statement.

Heather
(phoenix_rising)

Thank you for your respect, and I hope next time that respect will be exercised and you will not answer posts specifically addressed to me. I'm not too fond of having other people read my mail, if you know what I mean.

scorp 25

*** He said that the second you cross the line on a regular basis your in trouble! ***

Where did I write this? I don't see the words 'they're in trouble' anywhere in my post.

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p.s.

Chocolate is nice as long as it's high quality, but then again that applies to almost everything in life. So many uses for the stuff, really ....

scorp 25

Is a 240 pound man justified when he beats his wife to get a point across?

Is a scorpio justified when he/she uses his/her insight and intellect to club someone over the head to get a point across?

Is that the most useful approach?

Is it not embarassing to be talking to someone and have a relative butt in, react bluntly to the discussion, and bash the person you're having a discussion with? Would you not feel like apologizing for such rude behavior? Would you not lay aside your feelings of wrath and forgive your relative in the realization that wrath won't accomplish a single useful thing, but only weaken the family?

scorp 25

Alright, scorp 25, I apologize for butting in and reading your mail. I will be sure to stay away from it next time.

Heather

Scorpio (25)

I don't want to argue over insignificant meanings. I meant 'trouble' as in the ending of a relationship! I put nothing in quotation marks. Is that not what you meant too? If it was wrong, oops? That is the way I took it. Your very good at expressing yourself, but it all depends on the way someone is hearing your words. I can hear both. What is being said and what isn't!

Scorpio (25)

I don't want to argue over insignificant meanings. I meant 'trouble' as in the ending of a relationship! I put nothing in quotation marks. Is that not what you meant too? If it was wrong, oops? That is the way I took it. Your very good at expressing yourself, but it all depends on the way someone is hearing your words. I can hear both, what is being said and what isn't!

"Is a 240 pound man justified when he beats his wife to get a point across?"

"Is a scorpio justified when he/she uses his/her insight and intellect to club someone over the head to get a point across?"

"Is that the most useful approach?"


Only when someone doesn't get the message and you have no other choice. Everyone is fully aware when participating in these conversations of the potential for and a** stinging! If you can't take it, then don't mess with it.

PS It is never ok to use violence to get your point across, and I never force anyone to agree with me or like what I have to say. I do have a right to my opinions regardless of anyones approval though. All you have to do is listen, nothing else.

Please don't patronize me. I didn't read your mail! How was anyone to know that you had not answered the post already? You don't always sign your posts.

The mail example is terrible. After all, this is a public forum. The title of the post was addressed to me however. How disappointed was I when it wasn't some mysterious invitation? 🙂 (Can you picture it? The urgent tone of a lover using all caps "I'm waiiiitinnnng scorp25!! *fluffs pillow) heh

Thank you for pointing out I haven't registered yet.

The wifebeater example is an extreme one, but all the more to point it out. Please show me how a single post escalated to 'no other choice' automatically. If what I'm seeing is inaccurate I'll confess it. I'm not here to be proud. I'm here to learn from the other scorps that I probably couldn't run into any other way - like Heather who clearly operates on the respect system and had to put herself in my shoes for a second to respond the way she did instead of unloading on me (her stock went way up in my mind).

If the word argue has a negative connotation, then let's clarify things. An opinion board full of 240 lb intellects getting emotional could get quite messy, and there are enough venters posting as it is, n'est-ce pas?

Scorp 25,

Thank you. : )

Heather

Scorp 25...

I hate to sound ignorant or uncultured, but what does that French phrase mean, if you don't mind me asking? I have seen that phrase before, and I always wonder.

Heather

"If the word argue has a negative connotation, then let's clarify things. An opinion board full of 240 lb intellects getting emotional could get quite messy, and there are enough venters posting as it is, n'est-ce pas?"

So what! We like to get down and dirty and we always kiss and make up after. This is the best way to find out who your dealing with. I must admit, I have tested people in the past before, this very way, just to see if they are compassionate, passionate and have the ability to forgive and the ability to confront! In other words, I like to debate and argue sometimes and it also gets alot of issues resolved with personalities...then we all now where we stand! What's wrong with that?
Real life stuff, isn't it!!!

Families argue and get over it. Let me tell you I have spent the last three days with my sister and her four girls and I have seen more fighting, laughing, crying and make-ups between all of us. If anything, it has bonded us closer!

Thanks for the compliment! (intellectual heavyweight).
Your not too bad yourself either 🙂!

n'est-ce pas?"
The english translation-- be-it-not.

Ahh, thank you 152! : )

Heather

P.S...making up is the best part, n'est ce pas? LOL. There, I got to use it in a sentence! : )