Scorpio ...M..I..A..

.........Missing in action.........

He said sorry but he will be MIA for a bit....to sort his stuff out....and i mean " ALOT OF STUFF "

I miss him ..and tried my very best not to contact him ..doing very good so far....

How long do you think this " M I A " will last..... Lets having a debate !

Please refer to this thread for this topic have been but been driven to the ground.

Scorpio Stillness Thread

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Please refer to this thread for this topic have been but been driven to the ground.

Scorpio Stillness Thread

i remeber that thread ladyscorpio 😉 i thought it mitght be fun to have a debate as to...when he will come out of his stillness. My situation is somewhat different as he has *alot of issues * he needs to deal with *on his own* and i feel this *stillneess* of his may last.... a while...if not forever..... But i will refer to that thread for other references. . Now during * stillness* period.. Do you expect your loved one to remain..faithful,loyal even if theres no "title" given? Im a taurus and im loyal as hell.. N to me if he was to go off with another person during this time.. I consider it cheating...so to me.. I feel i want to remain faithful and wait for his return... Eventhough there was never a title.. He knows my love is unconditional n i will always love him.. So i guess we are together... Am i approaching this the right way ?

Didn't this just happen with him a week or so ago, or, am I confused?

Posted by natural25
Didn't this just happen with him a week or so ago, or, am I confused?

Imao. You are right Nat ! ... This is another "mia" i guess but this is for REAL this time. Last time ..there was still some contacts n physical contacts.. This time feels REAL.... Sitting still... calmmmm lake... Im perfectly calm myself.. It must be because i understand scorpios much better than i did ! Thanks to you all! Sincerely !

I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

As we all know my scorpio has *many * issues. Before MIA i told him how i really feel by text ..that my love is uncomditional and i expect notihing from this love whatsoever. He said that " us " is impossible because of how sick he is etc. actually if i look back.....ok its really confusing !! How should i make a shorter story,,im going to try my very best..

Ok so we spent 5 nights together as i explained and we " agreed" on just enjoying the ride because he cant handle relationships right now.. Fine with me.. Ater 5 nights together he asked for some space as we are entering relationship territory... Ok fine with me... However i will text him once a day to make sure he is okay.. One day he told me he is having a very bad day etc.. So i went over to make sure he is okay.. Stayed over as normal... That night he asked me to come over again... I said i couldnt..mind you this was after he had to clean up his whole house becarusr of my silly mistake.. ( The dogs went through all the rubbish) I expected him to give me silent treatment but he didnt n was not mad at me.. He instead wanted to see me but i said i couldnt.. Now he didnt reply to that text..or the next day... I was worried as didnt hear from him so i texted him saying sorry i couldnt come.. He flipped out calling me needy etc..seaying we are not dating and he couldnt careless that i couldnt come over ..he said my neediness isnt what he needs right now blablabla. I just said sorry i made him feel obligated ..adnd left it as that..next day he texted me saying its all good and asked if i undersetand what he was trying to say.. N thats when i decided to let my heart out..told him my love is unconditional and it doesnt matter what we call ourselves as i know deep down theres always an *us* somewhere... Meaningful conversation.. He said he cant give me what i want and i will always havr expectations so dont kid myself etc.. I let my guard down that night at last.... One night hr had a horrible day again...n i went over as always. He was off his face. He told me hes done in life etc. he told me that i should stop caring for him as he will destroy me emotionally and we both should hate each other etc... I didntr care much cause i know hes not well. The next day when we went to work i cleaned up the house for him caus i know hes struggling BIG time.... N i thought i would show him with actions.. Aso left him a little note wishing him a better day. I left just before he got home..apparently he couldnt work a

..apparently he couldnt work at all that day.. He wouldnt tell me why ..hes going through hell of alot of crap... I asked if he wanted me to come over again i can ... I dont want him to be by himself honestly. But he said he should be fine... He didnt tell me what was wrong at work that night either which i found strrange. As he usually tells me thingrs... The night before the mia i said this " are you okay? " he said" always" i said"..... He said —" I said " i liked it when you tell me things... Apparently not anymore so i will respect whatever the reason iis..n dont stress sleep well..." The next day he said " sorry but i will be mia for a bit as tomorrow i need to sort these things out !!!" I said" no problem thanks for letting me know" .....im sorry for a longggg explanation... I thought this may be neccesesary as you asked me tell you what happened before the MIA ! I dont know..maybe theres never hope for us untill hes better.. I just dont know what he is expecting of me during this period...thanks for your input !

Posted by natural25
I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

i really think its his ...illness to be honest.. I dont know ..!! 😢

Does he have a mental illness? I am being totally serious.

Posted by Neurotoxin
Is he a Virgo rising?

If so, he could LITERALLY be sorting stuff out...rearranging it...labeling it...organizing it...

Over...and over....

i am a virgo rising lol ! His mars in capricon.. Is that related? Sorry im new to this chart thingy.. Hes got aquirus rising ..

Posted by natural25
Does he have a mental illness? I am being totally serious.

... I could get killed if he finds out hes being published ..😢 i want to change my name hehehe !! ..he does...theres ALOT in him... This is why i always say unconditional... I expect nothing ..and im serioud.. I just want him to be happy....that is all.

I will put my hand up first and say " 2 weeks " ....... Okay maybe a little bit more...... I dont think he will come back untill hes better.... Which couldnbe never *sign*

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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Please refer to this thread for this topic have been but been driven to the ground.

Scorpio Stillness Thread

i remeber that thread ladyscorpio 😉 i thought it mitght be fun to have a debate as to...when he will come out of his stillness. My situation is somewhat different as he has *alot of issues * he needs to deal with *on his own* and i feel this *stillneess* of his may last.... a while...if not forever..... But i will refer to that thread for other references. . Now during * stillness* period.. Do you expect your loved one to remain..faithful,loyal even if theres no "title" given? Im a taurus and im loyal as hell.. N to me if he was to go off with another person during this time.. I consider it cheating...so to me.. I feel i want to remain faithful and wait for his return... Eventhough there was never a title.. He knows my love is unconditional n i will always love him.. So i guess we are together... Am i approaching this the right way ?

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If there is no title, there should be no expectations. However, I highly doubt his decision to take space was to go cruising for girls. He could have done that just fine while he was present and accounted for.

Posted by natural25
I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

Ha ha I like "Pineapples"

Posted by IrresistableScorp
Well my dear. There are two ways you can take what this scorp is telling you. He said that having a relationship with him is not a good idea because he's a mess and he's afraid he's going to destroy you emotionally.

Do you see that he has been brutally honest with you here?

First of all you can take him at his word. Most likely this view stems from a history of hurting people emotionally. He's hurt people. He's telling you that he hurts people.

Not really something you want to hear from a potential is it?

On the other hand it is not beneath a typical scorp to go in brutally honest, paint the worst case scenario, give you fair warning but HOPE you will stick around for the good and bad.

In fact this may be a man thing. They carry a shame that puts walls up and they see that as their massive hurdle.
Everyone one of us has our massive hurdle that deep inside we don't think we can ever be truly loved because of it. Some are just more forthcoming with it.

Just some thoughts.

thanks ISP ... He has always been honest with me... Hes up and own.. Before this MIa one day he will push me away claiming he will destroy me so stay away from him.. The next he will say..." i want this and i want you to stick arround the good and the bad " ... Then the next day he will push me again... i didnt make up my mind at that time what i wanted....Clearly his illness has had that impact on him in someway so he acted impulsively. Since i told him my love was unconditional..i felt at ease.. I have chosen to be committed regardless..sticking with the good and the bad... Atleast he knows this while he is in his mia knowing i am real.. N is There for him... So im hoping he will come out from this retreat with a conclusion.. And i agree, him dstroying me emotionally could potentially happen but that is really the worst case scenario.....

Is he Bipolar or BPD?

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Posted by natural25
Does he have a mental illness? I am being totally serious.

... I could get killed if he finds out hes being published ..😢 i want to change my name hehehe !! ..he does...theres ALOT in him... This is why i always say unconditional... I expect nothing ..and im serioud.. I just want him to be happy....that is all.

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Hmmm, I'm having trouble with this. First, everyone expect something, so let's not entertain that. You would like to be in a relationship with him, no? He knows this, despite the fact that you are saying otherwise. Because he knows you want more, but won't admit it this is setting up a weird dynamic.

Second,let's say we entertain the idea that you "expect nothing", this is setting up a situation where you're not letting him know you have limits that he can not cross. A Scorp needs a strong person to is not afraid to put us in our place when we get out of hand. If you're willing to accept anything because you love him unconditionally, he will give you just that.

I'm confused by you mean unconditionally. I think I have a very different understanding of the word.

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Posted by natural25
I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

Ha ha I like "Pineapples"

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It does fit. Lol. 🙂

*who
*what you mean *when you say

Lawd.....

Posted by wineauxisback
Is he Bipolar or BPD?

whats BPD? Hes getting diagnose for Bipolar ...he has other issues too... Lol hes a mess really..!! He is GREAT at hiding it though ! That cool exterior face of his.

Posted by wineauxisback
Is he Bipolar or BPD?

Sounds like it, and if that is the case, being a Scorpio has NOTHING to do with his behavior.

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by saweetz1988

Posted by natural25
Does he have a mental illness? I am being totally serious.

... I could get killed if he finds out hes being published ..😢 i want to change my name hehehe !! ..he does...theres ALOT in him... This is why i always say unconditional... I expect nothing ..and im serioud.. I just want him to be happy....that is all.

Hmmm, I'm having trouble with this. First, everyone expect something, so let's not entertain that. You would like to be in a relationship with him, no? He knows this, despite the fact that you are saying otherwise. Because he knows you want more, but won't admit it this is setting up a weird dynamic.

Second,let's say we entertain the idea that you "expect nothing", this is setting up a situation where you're not letting him know you have limits that he can not cross. A Scorp needs a strong person to is not afraid to put us in our place when we get out of hand. If you're willing to accept anything because you love him unconditionally, he will give you just that.

I'm confused by you mean unconditionally. I think I have a very different understanding of the word.

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okay unconditional to me means... Loving him eventhough i know one min he shows me love.. The next he doesnt... Or love him without expecting his love in " return" mainly because he cant.. He doesnt even love himself.. But theres s But !!! Hes is not to betray my trust, loyalty in anyway.. He knows there are certain lines he cant cross.. Lying and betraying.. I dont know maybe he now thinks we are together..otherwise why would he need to let me know hes going for mia for a bit !?!? Right —?? Confused myself

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Posted by wineauxisback
Is he Bipolar or BPD?

Sounds like it, and if that is the case, being a Scorpio has NOTHING to do with his behavior.

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no 😢 my situation is out of line here i know.. But the retreat does? Maybe not ... I need counsellor lol

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Posted by natural25

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Posted by natural25
I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

Ha ha I like "Pineapples"

It does fit. Lol. 🙂

I shall now be known as irresistible scorpion pineapples. And so it was written. And so it shall be done. 😛

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awww cute !

saweetz1988 - BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder.

Here is the deal. IF he is being diagnosed with either and currently in the throws of managing it, you SHOULD definitely give him his space and carry on with your life and allow him to come for you when he has this under control.

You say "hehehe" and make light of it, but mood disorders and personality disorders are no mater to "hehehe" about. I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy and have worked with clients over the last six years with the above mentioned disorders. It is very real and exhausting. For both the client and the people in their lives.

Honestly, this has nothing to do with with astrology and there is no book or astrology forum that is going to give you answers for a mood disorder.

This could be a very long and painful road ahead that will never be stable.

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Posted by wineauxisback
Is he Bipolar or BPD?

Sounds like it, and if that is the case, being a Scorpio has NOTHING to do with his behavior.

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What she is describing (unless there is more I am missing) does not mean this man has BPD, just sayin'. There needs to be a lot more symptoms than deciding he wants to be in a relationship one day than changing his mind the next day. The swing between Manic and Depressive symptoms does not happen that rapidly.

Uncertainly, moodiness and an inability to regulate your emotions does not make one Bipolar.

IS - to me, its pineapples. Lol!

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Posted by natural25

Posted by wineauxisback
Is he Bipolar or BPD?

Sounds like it, and if that is the case, being a Scorpio has NOTHING to do with his behavior.

What she is describing (unless there is more I am missing) does not mean this man has BPD, just sayin'. There needs to be a lot more symptoms than deciding he wants to be in a relationship one day than changing his mind the next day. The swing between Manic and Depressive symptoms does not happen that rapidly.

Uncertainly, moodiness and an inability to regulate your emotions does not make one Bipolar.

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She confirmed he is currently being diagnosed for bipolar.

Posted by IrresistableScorp

Posted by natural25

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by natural25
I agree with IS aka pineapples. Lol. This is happening quite frequently....

What's really going? What's caused this?

Ha ha I like "Pineapples"

It does fit. Lol. 🙂

I shall now be known as irresistible scorpion pineapples. And so it was written. And so it shall be done. 😛

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How about I-Scor-Apples for short?

Posted by natural25
saweetz1988 - BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder.

Here is the deal. IF he is being diagnosed with either and currently in the throws of managing it, you SHOULD definitely give him his space and carry on with your life and allow him to come for you when he has this under control.

You say "hehehe" and make light of it, but mood disorders and personality disorders are no mater to "hehehe" about. I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy and have worked with clients over the last six years with the above mentioned disorders. It is very real and exhausting. For both the client and the people in their lives.

Honestly, this has nothing to do with with astrology and there is no book or astrology forum that is going to give you answers for a mood disorder.

This could be a very long and painful road ahead that will never be stable.

natrual... I am starting my bachelor in psychology next year.. And i wish i was doing your PHD.. It is no laughing matter i know but i seem to chill somehow.. I was a mental reck myself the first two weeks.. Now im find.. It will be a painful road ahead i know.. I know the space is needed... Hence why i m willingly giving it to him. He does not want to hurt me.. I know that.. But i care too much for him and and want to be there through thick and thin.. I am selfess.

I have not confirmed. Sorry my eng is my second language... The doctor is trying to diagnose his illness.. Hes got OTHeR illnesses though.. They are trying to see if drinking is a way of him trying to calm his manic ...episodes.. I am unsure now... He never had severe manic episodes so they ruled that out...first..

How long have you known him?

Posted by natural25
How long have you known him?

4 years. On n off though.. Last month i felt like i know EVeRYthing about him . He shared pretty much..everything n never hide anything..even his bank account. He purposely left it on the screen. His loan n that. I was shocked, he loved me for 3 years after that. He wants me to ask him more n more questions. ... Honesty all the way.

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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Look I am telling right now you are not going to destroy me so stop saying that before you really piss me off and I have to go medieval on you. Do we understand each other now?!

I swear to god if I ever hear you that again you will not like the result so stfu about that. Jesus.

Haha say that and see what happens. 😄

Drag his arse on the carpet. We love that. Hehe.

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IMaO " no he cant destroy me. I am pretty strong. My airy carefree nature saves alot here! So i will repeat that to him when he returns imao

Posted by saweetz1988
okay unconditional to me means... Loving him eventhough i know one min he shows me love.. The next he doesnt... Or love him without expecting his love in " return" mainly because he cant.. He doesnt even love himself..

That's what I thought. That is not loving someone unconditionally. This is becoming their doormat.

You can love someone for their faults and recognize that at their core this does not make them a bad person, but you still need limits. For example, I have a very bad temper. My friends know this and they give me latitude, but there is still a line they will not let me cross with them. Because of this line, I have to learn to 1) check my sh*t and 2) work on my temper to become a better person --the person they believe I truly am.

As stubborn as we are and as much as we think we know all, a Scorp needs someone that can help them grow out of their bullsh*t. It's something we secretly want (or maybe it's just me ). That's why we're stuck in our head and emotions all the time. Reflecting on this and that, that's why there are a million "pondering" threads by Scorps on this board (haha, nothing but love Lady Scorp ). We aim to evolve. We can't do it alone, even when we think we can.

I am glad there are some lines you're not willing to let him cross, but I'll be honest, reading your posts, I'm thinking you would if he actually could crossed them. You'd be upset, maybe stop talking to him for a bit, but "understand" eventually because he "doesn't love himself" to know any better. Right? Just an observation.

Posted by natural25
I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy

Nice, how are you enjoying it nat?

Posted by saweetz1988
I have not confirmed. Sorry my eng is my second language... The doctor is trying to diagnose his illness.. Hes got OTHeR illnesses though.. They are trying to see if drinking is a way of him trying to calm his manic ...episodes.. I am unsure now... He never had severe manic episodes so they ruled that out...first..

Okay......not confirmed. Let his therapist diagnose the man then please.

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by saweetz1988
okay unconditional to me means... Loving him eventhough i know one min he shows me love.. The next he doesnt... Or love him without expecting his love in " return" mainly because he cant.. He doesnt even love himself..

That's what I thought. That is not loving someone unconditionally. This is becoming their doormat.

You can love someone for their faults and recognize that at their core this does not make them a bad person, but you still need limits. For example, I have a very bad temper. My friends know this and they give me latitude, but there is still a line they will not let me cross with them. Because of this line, I have to learn to 1) check my sh*t and 2) work on my temper to become a better person --the person they believe I truly am.

As stubborn as we are and as much as we think we know all, a Scorp needs someone that can help them grow out of their bullsh*t. It's something we secretly want (or maybe it's just me ). That's why we're stuck in our head and emotions all the time. Reflecting on this and that, that's why there are a million "pondering" threads by Scorps on this board (haha, nothing but love Lady Scorp ). We aim to evolve. We can't do it alone, even when we think we can.

I am glad there are some lines you're not willing to let him cross, but I'll be honest, reading your posts, I'm thinking you would if he actually could crossed them. You'd be upset, maybe stop talking to him for a bit, but "understand" eventually because he "doesn't love himself" to know any better. Right? Just an observation.

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i dont know i feel like he doesnt do anything to cross line with me.no temper.. Or crap like that.. I dont know its a difficult situation. I usually hve a pretty high standard when it comes to men.. But knowing how sick he is.. I really want to make it easier on him. Hes already making it soooooo hard on himself.. Its just someone to remind him that hes worthy of love i guess..am i doing

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Posted by natural25
I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy

Nice, how are you enjoying it nat?

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It is literally the hardest thing I have ever experienced in my life. It has exhausted me mentally and emotionally. Kicked my butt black and blue, BUT I love it!! Lol.

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Posted by saweetz1988
I have not confirmed. Sorry my eng is my second language... The doctor is trying to diagnose his illness.. Hes got OTHeR illnesses though.. They are trying to see if drinking is a way of him trying to calm his manic ...episodes.. I am unsure now... He never had severe manic episodes so they ruled that out...first..

Okay......not confirmed. Let his therapist diagnose the man then please.

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.. +1000000000

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Jump his arse on the carpet and give him rugburns on his back. We love that. Hehe.

Fixed

Darling that goes without saying. 😄

Right? Who DOESN'T love that stuff?

Drag his arse then take out all that anger with some rug burns! We have a winner!!! Lol

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IMAO !!!

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Posted by natural25
I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy

Nice, how are you enjoying it nat?

It is literally the hardest thing I have ever experienced in my life. It has exhausted me mentally and emotionally. Kicked my butt black and blue, BUT I love it!! Lol.

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amazing stuff!!! Im starting to doubt how a taurus can relate to patients..lol i feel scorpions are better at that sort of stuff.. You just GeT emotions.... We have to thrive and put them in theory etc...

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Posted by natural25
I am getting my Phd in clinical mental therapy

Nice, how are you enjoying it nat?

It is literally the hardest thing I have ever experienced in my life. It has exhausted me mentally and emotionally. Kicked my butt black and blue, BUT I love it!! Lol.

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It's like a drug. Congrats!

Well, enjoy your weekend everyone!

So i guess my situation has nothing to do with him being a scorpio.. LOL.. MIa or retreat...does it still relate.. 😢

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Posted by saweetz1988
I have not confirmed. Sorry my eng is my second language... The doctor is trying to diagnose his illness.. Hes got OTHeR illnesses though.. They are trying to see if drinking is a way of him trying to calm his manic ...episodes.. I am unsure now... He never had severe manic episodes so they ruled that out...first..

Okay......not confirmed. Let his therapist diagnose the man then please.

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She said in her previous post that he is currently being diagnosed for bipolar, specifically.

Regardless, based on the info she provided, there is some instability there. Perhaps, quite possibly, a great deal of instability. This is deeper than some Scorpio man going through hot and cold changes as explained by Linda Goodman. The OP has said he has a lot going on with regards to his "illness". For whatever reason, she has not made what that is clear. Maybe she does not understand herself. In fact, I would bet that is part of the problem. She does not understand what is going on. Not with him, and more importantly, within herself.

If a man is unavailable for any reason. Whether it be because he is bipolar, paranoid schizophrenic, or just a plain out douche bag, loving him and saying it's OK that he does not reciprocate, and being left to feel empty and confused is not unconditional love. As you said, it is being a doormat.

Saweetz, has totally lost sight of her own happiness in the process of trying to figure out this man.

Saweetz, let the doctors do that. How about, for now, you focus on yourself, and try to understand why you are willing to love so hard and receive so little in return for a man who you just started dating, and perhaps, might not know well at all.

What are your thought on that?

@ Natrual. I do know what other illnesses he has got because he showed me his letter from his psychiatrist. Sometimes, true love begins when there's no expectations. When I found out he's got all these issues, I was willing to stick by him no matter what from the beginning. As mentioned, I did make a commitment to myself and him to this relationship. It is strange I know right, I was with a Virgo for 2.5 years and I never made such thing. It felt so " right " when we re-united again. It felt real and I felt at ease. I can't quiet explain it. Even if he's sick, he has inspired me in so many ways. He made me become a better and a Stronger in the process. I learnt to love in a way I never thought I could. There is no pain from this situation. I am not being a door mat. Deep down I know how he feels for me but there will be times when he doesn't. That is just the way it is and being with him mean as such. I wish I could explain this kind of love clearly to you. This is the first time i loved this way. I am not blind. I just see the perfection in an imperfection person perfectly. I don't cry. If I do it's the happiness I feel deep inside. It is strange. I don't have pain, heartache, tears. Right now during his MiA my plan is to focus on myself.. Grow as a person and do things I been wanting to know.. Our connection is there regardless of whether we end up together or not. I will never forget about him ever. 🙂

It's OK if you did experience hurt, pain, or sadness over the situation. It is a difficult circumstance and after all, you are only human.

BUT ok, lets go with what you have just said. You are not hurt. You are not in pain. You are, in fact, HAPPY! Fine. Then why come on the board with **sad faces**, asking for help, and demonstrate the disposition of a person who is clearly in pain?

You do not ave to put up any fronts, here. Here you can be real and honest. We have seen it all before. Your actions told your story before you were even done typing your above response.

Remember, we do not have to live with the decisions you make. You do. So, there is no need to convince me or anyone else of anything. You live in your own truth and be HONEST with yourself.

**you do not HAVE to...