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I have been dating a Taurus man for about a year now and we have been living together for about 8 months. During this time he has packed all of his belongings in very dramatic fashion and moved out on several occasions, however, he always comes back in a day or two. This time hes been gone for 2 weeks. He packed almost all of his clothes, most of his pictures, and a few other items when he left. He left behind a lot though, and has come back twice to get some clothing he needed, but he hasn't taken or come back to pack everything and completely move out, despite saying multiple times he would be back for everything else. He says he will come, then doesn't show up. I have been trying to talk to him, texting him telling him I love him, and I miss him, and I've been thinking of him. I have made his favorite meal and sent him a picture of it telling him that I would bring it to where he was staying or he could come to get it. I have offered to have him drop off his laundry so I could do it for him, I have sent him pictures of me in a dress I bought for an upcoming event, that he says he's going alone to, yet bought tickets for him and a guest. He says he's not bringing a guest and he's not seeing anyone else, and that I am definitely not going with him. He wants to go alone. I've sent him pictures of us and of us with his family, I have been telling him he's the only one for me, that I want to have his children and be his wife one day, I keep telling him I can't accept that it is over and we are done, despite him telling me it's over and we are done. He has been so mean. I am a Sagittarius woman. I don't beg, I don't crawl. This is the first man I have ever chased after like this, and to no avail. I'm dumbfounded and confused and hurt. He has been gone 2 weeks, and has been so mean, either saying hurtful things to me or ignoring me. I don't know what else to do. I just want him to come home. Help!
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Jesus fucking Christ Sag!!

You say you don't beg or crawl yet before this you've been cooking his meal and offering to do his laundry etc.

You say nothing about the possible reasons he's packed his bags and left all those times.

If I were him I'd be running away too!!

Why don't you just pack his shit up and drop it round where he's staying or a friend or his parents house and get rid of it instead of holding onto it like its a bargaining tool.
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Posted by AgentP911
Jesus fucking Christ Sag!!

You say you don't beg or crawl yet before this you've been cooking his meal and offering to do his laundry etc.

You say nothing about the possible reasons he's packed his bags and left all those times.

If I were him I'd be running away too!!

Why don't you just pack his shit up and drop it round where he's staying or a friend or his parents house and get rid of it instead of holding onto it like its a bargaining tool.
this. one hundred times this.

he left you and you want to do his laundry?! w.t.f?
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What happened though? Did you get drunk and act crazy? lol....

He'll probably be back when the anger settles, like he has been every other time.

The meals, the laundry, the texts, pic of you in the dress, pledges of undying devotion - all brilliant moves on your part, btw....He'll probably cave....
Taurus man is weak and lazy then?!

Van see how a taurus would go back to a dead end relationship because the woman acts like a slave /doormat?!
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I've seen Taurus men stay in dead end relationships when *they* are the doormat. It depends on how experienced they are in relationships, how old they are, etc. I definitely have done my share of both treating others like a doormat and being the doormat myself in my younger years. Especially the first time around...There wasn't much my first love could do, that I wouldn't eventually get over after a cycle of drama....

We don't know its "dead end" though. She didn't give us any detail about the relationship really, other than that there's a lot of drama. Sag and Taurus can be filled with drama like that, until there's more trust, and the Sag stops acting crazy... lol. I've seen a lot of Leo/Taurus relationships with this kind of drama as well. They are even worse IMO.

The kind of power he has over her though? Very appealing to many bulls IMO. I'm not saying its good, or even that it will work long-term, but I don't think its over either. I think begging and pleading actually works to reel a bull back in as a last resort, if a person is humble enough to do it. Especially if we see that its coming from a really sincere place...Cancers always got me with that.
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What happened though? Did you get drunk and act crazy? lol....

He'll probably be back when the anger settles, like he has been every other time.

The meals, the laundry, the texts, pic of you in the dress, pledges of undying devotion - all brilliant moves on your part, btw....He'll probably cave....
Taurus man is weak and lazy then?!

Van see how a taurus would go back to a dead end relationship because the woman acts like a slave /doormat?!
I've seen Taurus men stay in dead end relationships when *they* are the doormat. It depends on how experienced they are in relationships, how old they are, etc. I definitely have done my share of both treating others like a doormat and being the doormat myself in my younger years. Especially the first time around...There wasn't much my first love could do, that I wouldn't eventually get over after a cycle of drama....

We don't know its "dead end" though. She didn't give us any detail about the relationship really, other than that there's a lot of drama. Sag and Taurus can be filled with drama like that, until there's more trust, and the Sag stops acting crazy... lol. I've seen a lot of Leo/Taurus relationships with this kind of drama as well. They are even worse IMO.

The kind of power he has over her though? Very appealing to many bulls IMO. I'm not saying its good, or even that it will work long-term, but I don't think its over either. I think begging and pleading actually works to reel a bull back in as a last resort, if a person is humble enough to do it. Especially if we see that its coming from a really sincere place...Cancers always got me with that.
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Humble... Or desperate... Fine line...
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When Taurus disappears: "So if he disappears on you after expressing interest, he’s not playing mind games with you … he’s just feeling hesitant. He’s worked too hard at building his nest to throw it all away on someone who gives off a funny smell....If you want to retain the interest of a Taurus man who’s retreated back into the woods, find a way to reassure him that you’re not a predator. To prove that you’re not looking to take anything away from him, the easiest thing you can do is give. Place an offering at the edge of the woods, and let him tentatively come to it, and make sure it’s not poisonous. If he eats it, he’ll come back for seconds."

http://sasstrology.com/2007/11/taurus-acts-like-hes-interested-then.html

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What happened though? Did you get drunk and act crazy? lol....

He'll probably be back when the anger settles, like he has been every other time.

The meals, the laundry, the texts, pic of you in the dress, pledges of undying devotion - all brilliant moves on your part, btw....He'll probably cave....
Cave and do what, Taurus LovesScorpio?
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He'll probably return. This has been his track record, even though this is his longest retreat. He's obviously not a bull who makes up his mind and sticks to it like busy or Redbull. He may even be manipulating - using these dramatic exits as a way to negotiate for something, exploiting the Sags apparently strong fear of abandonment. Sag maybe did something he sees as extreme, so he's countering with something she'll see as extreme to set the boundary. She'll have to fill us in on more details.
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What happened though? Did you get drunk and act crazy? lol....

He'll probably be back when the anger settles, like he has been every other time.

The meals, the laundry, the texts, pic of you in the dress, pledges of undying devotion - all brilliant moves on your part, btw....He'll probably cave....
Cave and do what, Taurus LovesScorpio?
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Fuel the cycle, repeat the cycle...

Fuel the cycle, repeat the cycle...

How many times does dude wanna pack his little 'go bag' and run back to his mummy?

Far too much drama. I was exhausted reading OP's post.
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What happened though? Did you get drunk and act crazy? lol....

He'll probably be back when the anger settles, like he has been every other time.

The meals, the laundry, the texts, pic of you in the dress, pledges of undying devotion - all brilliant moves on your part, btw....He'll probably cave....
Cave and do what, Taurus LovesScorpio?
He'll probably return. This has been his track record, even though this is his longest retreat. He's obviously not a bull who makes up his mind and sticks to it like busy or Redbull. He may even be manipulating - using these dramatic exits as a way to negotiate for something, exploiting the Sags apparently strong fear of abandonment. Sag maybe did something he sees as extreme, so he's countering with something she'll see as extreme to set the boundary. She'll have to fill us in on more details.
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She does appear to have the abandonment blues! He's probably been increasing his little 'getaway from Sag' holidays each episode.
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I have been dating a Taurus man for about a year now and we have been living together for about 8 months. During this time he has packed all of his belongings in very dramatic fashion and moved out on several occasions, however, he always comes back in a day or two. This time hes been gone for 2 weeks. He packed almost all of his clothes, most of his pictures, and a few other items when he left. He left behind a lot though, and has come back twice to get some clothing he needed, but he hasn't taken or come back to pack everything and completely move out, despite saying multiple times he would be back for everything else. He says he will come, then doesn't show up. I have been trying to talk to him, texting him telling him I love him, and I miss him, and I've been thinking of him. I have made his favorite meal and sent him a picture of it telling him that I would bring it to where he was staying or he could come to get it. I have offered to have him drop off his laundry so I could do it for him, I have sent him pictures of me in a dress I bought for an upcoming event, that he says he's going alone to, yet bought tickets for him and a guest. He says he's not bringing a guest and he's not seeing anyone else, and that I am definitely not going with him. He wants to go alone. I've sent him pictures of us and of us with his family, I have been telling him he's the only one for me, that I want to have his children and be his wife one day, I keep telling him I can't accept that it is over and we are done, despite him telling me it's over and we are done. He has been so mean. I am a Sagittarius woman. I don't beg, I don't crawl. This is the first man I have ever chased after like this, and to no avail. I'm dumbfounded and confused and hurt. He has been gone 2 weeks, and has been so mean, either saying hurtful things to me or ignoring me. I don't know what else to do. I just want him to come home. Help!
What part of "fuq'em..feed'em fish" don't you get? Why, and especially as a Sag, on earth would you beg or crawl behind any man? Especially a lazy Taurus dude..
He's manipulating you in full Taurus fashion, and you're allowing it. When dealing with Taurus you have to say what you mean, and mean what you say...in that order. Don't get me wrong...Taurus are good people, but they are a little too slow for a Sag who's usually full of life, but you're allowing this dude to drain you of yours. Get yourself together and have some self respect Hun. You're probably right though...He' will be back..They always come back with their tails tucked between their legs...lol. Did he put the "what's hapn'en" on you?
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What part of "fuq'em..feed'em fish" don't you get? Why, and especially as a Sag, on earth would you beg or crawl behind any man? Especially a lazy Taurus dude..
He's manipulating you in full Taurus fashion, and you're allowing it. When dealing with Taurus you have to say what you mean, and mean what you say...in that order. Don't get me wrong...Taurus are good people, but they are a little too slow for a Sag who's usually full of life, but you're allowing this dude to drain you of yours. Get yourself together and have some self respect Hun. You're probably right though...He' will be back..They always come back with their tails tucked between their legs...lol. Did he put the "what's hapn'en" on you?
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Thanks you!! Another libra who knows taurus very very well!!!

But the sags I know are far from full of life.... I think it depends again on the placements... The taurus I know has three placements in sag and is always on the move... I have three fire placements and I am always on the move... A sag with a lot of earth in them may be slower than a bull with a lot of fire in them!!!! Sags are not that exciting as astrology would like to make out and the bull isnioas slow or boring as astrology would like to make out.
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And that's mostly the Taurus men I speak of. My mother, grandmother, sister-in-law, and 3 really close friends who are all women are totally different than the men. Most Taurus women are trail blazers!! Not one lazy bone in their bodies. The Taurus guys I was involved with as a youngster were all great guys, hard workers and totally committed when in love, but they became a little to complacent and clingy for me in the end.
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What part of "fuq'em..feed'em fish" don't you get? Why, and especially as a Sag, on earth would you beg or crawl behind any man? Especially a lazy Taurus dude..
He's manipulating you in full Taurus fashion, and you're allowing it. When dealing with Taurus you have to say what you mean, and mean what you say...in that order. Don't get me wrong...Taurus are good people, but they are a little too slow for a Sag who's usually full of life, but you're allowing this dude to drain you of yours. Get yourself together and have some self respect Hun. You're probably right though...He' will be back..They always come back with their tails tucked between their legs...lol. Did he put the "what's hapn'en" on you?
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Thanks you!! Another libra who knows taurus very very well!!!

But the sags I know are far from full of life.... I think it depends again on the placements... The taurus I know has three placements in sag and is always on the move... I have three fire placements and I am always on the move... A sag with a lot of earth in them may be slower than a bull with a lot of fire in them!!!! Sags are not that exciting as astrology would like to make out and the bull isnioas slow or boring as astrology would like to make out.
And that's mostly the Taurus men I speak of. My mother, grandmother, sister-in-law, and 3 really close friends who are all women are totally different than the men. Most Taurus women are trail blazers!! Not one lazy bone in their bodies. The Taurus guys I was involved with as a youngster were all great guys, hard workers and totally committed when in love, but they became a little to complacent and clingy for me in the end.
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I've noticed this difference between Taurus men and women as well. I have 3 Taurus women friends, they're all very hardworking, ambitious, confident, strong women, not at all dependent on any man. I remember they were all doing really well financially by their early 20s. Not that I'm saying the men are lazy, but I've definitely seen complacency among them (and self-indulgent, extravagantly so sometimes). But the women are like totally different creatures!
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To the Sag OP, reading about how you've reduced to begging and pleading him to come back... ugh that just breaks my heart!

A Sag friend is married to a Taurus, but she's one independent, strong Sag who wouldn't hesitate to put her husband in his place, albeit in a firm yet respectful, gentle manner, if she ever felt he was taking her for granted. So yes you can do that, it takes practice to get it right, but please do not be his doormat. This whole thing with the pleading and begging, sending pictures, promising to cook his fave meal and do his laundry... ehhhh no...

On the other hand we've not heard much from you about why he has this cycle of packing his bags and leaving, only to come back a few days later. Him not coming back for 2 weeks now could mean he's finally had enough. But enough of what?
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Whereas I lose respect for the person!! How strange? Whey my ex gem, especially, pleaded with me after 8 months after I dumped him he wanted to reconcile and I was appalled like he had no self respect!!!
Yeah, I tend to lean towards compassion. If someone that I cared for at one point, is completely desperate, begging, crying/pleading for another chance, I will probably always give it to them. I didn't stand a chance against any of the Cancer women I dated. Well, one of them threw a drink in my face one time and I did end it that night. The rest of them pretty much had their way with me. Its hard when you can tell someone's pain is coming from a sincere place. I've never been able to really reject a woman crying, if its sincere. I suppose its different though if its the man in the place of desperation. Men are not allowed to be weak like that...lol.
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Yo be honest, I'm beginning to notice just how different the two sexes are from each other. I have never dated a taurus before but know 3 taurus men all very different from each other... Complacency is defo taurus... But yes, perhaps the men are clingy...
Eh...the bulls I know are pretty aloof/oblivious/preoccupied, and that seems to sum up the majority of complaints we get around here. Possessive maybe, but not clingy...
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Jesus fucking Christ Sag!!

You say you don't beg or crawl yet before this you've been cooking his meal and offering to do his laundry etc.

You say nothing about the possible reasons he's packed his bags and left all those times.

If I were him I'd be running away too!!

Why don't you just pack his shit up and drop it round where he's staying or a friend or his parents house and get rid of it instead of holding onto it like its a bargaining tool.
the cooking meal made me hahaha 😆 😆 😆.

Oh Sorry Sag woman. It was reverse situation in my past.. but then again when he threw me out. I threw everything in his face including his presents but of course took the gold bracelet ( made him laughed that time). hahaha.

Busy is right he will be back and collect his things again.. and that is over. There is some issues not revealed yet. Taurus are patient people until they are fed up.

oh no what a sad story..😭
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Sag is also very flirtatious! They have different core values... Sag is coarse.. Liberal not very ladylike... Taurus old fashioned conservative. He just got fed up of their differences or perhaps sag was just taking the piss!!!
I'm betting she just got drunk and did something really stupid, childish, and/or embarrassing. Very common with my Sag in the early days and a lot of Sags I know. When they go to extremes, they can get really sloppy...
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I can see from a male perspective when the woman starts to cry!!! It's pathetic really. The man is not able to then truly show how he feels and then give in more out of pity than anything else. I've never been in that position... But I'm also not a woman who cries... To me it's a sign of weakness and prevents the other party male or female from being able to truly express themselves. Cancer females I find to be really manipulative and will bring in Rye water works as and when there is a need for it!
i disagree busy. it's not always good to be a closed book. if both parties are constantly shielding their emotions you are left with a stalemate. sometimes one person needs to show their emotions and vulnerabilities to signal to the other it is safe for them to do so as well. when the walls come down you can truly connect with another. if you only show strength to a partner, it's very easy for them to assume you don't want them, need them or understand how much they mean to you.
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To the Sag OP, reading about how you've reduced to begging and pleading him to come back... ugh that just breaks my heart!

A Sag friend is married to a Taurus, but she's one independent, strong Sag who wouldn't hesitate to put her husband in his place, albeit in a firm yet respectful, gentle manner, if she ever felt he was taking her for granted. So yes you can do that, it takes practice to get it right, but please do not be his doormat. This whole thing with the pleading and begging, sending pictures, promising to cook his fave meal and do his laundry... ehhhh no...

On the other hand we've not heard much from you about why he has this cycle of packing his bags and leaving, only to come back a few days later. Him not coming back for 2 weeks now could mean he's finally had enough. But enough of what?
Enough of what? You ask?! Have you ever hung out with a sag?? Not easy energy at all!!!! They are pretty clingy, controlling and domineering! Same thing taurus is. But taurus wants to be in control too.. I bet a lot of control issues!! Sag is also very flirtatious! They have different core values... Sag is coarse.. Liberal not very ladylike... Taurus old fashioned conservative. He just got fed up of their differences or perhaps sag was just taking the piss!!!
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That's what I'd like to know, but I'm not making any assumptions until the OP herself comes back to explain this. For now, these are all speculations on our part, based on our generalisations of their sun signs.

As a Libra, I'm ok with the Sag energy. I love their boundless optimism and can-do spirit. But I haven't been with one romantically, so I'm not familiar with their (supposed) drama & clinginess with romantic partners. The few Sag women I know are very independent and strong-willed with lots of Scorpio in them.

So... still waiting for OP... *drums fingers on table*