Understanding the hot and cold

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I figured this thread was coming at some point.

When my Taurus and I are good, we are great. And then, he will become cold at times. I've been through this already a few times before, and I've been able to adjust to it, learn from it, and what not. My taurus has gone cold again and is barely speaking to me. I was just with him this past Thursday and it was great. I sent him a text a couple of days later, no response. This upset me a bit, but I put it behind me. I sent him a text today, and I got a short (it seemed kind of cold), one word response. I went through a range of emotions: from sadness, to anger, to apathy.

I'm not sure what to think, to be honest. I guess I just would like to know what he's thinking. I try to convince myself that he is just busy (and thus, I just keep myself busy), but it's not that easy when you feel that someone you care about is ignoring you. When he has disappeared before, he has come back either like nothing has happened, or he has apologized if he didn't answer my texts. It could be that me just getting off my anti-anxiety medicine is making this harder for me.

So, my bull people, enlighten me a little, please? If things seem perfectly fine, why would the bull pull the disappearing act? Should I just let it go and wait it out? Again, excuse me if this topic seems a little redundant, but I guess I just 1) need to vent and 2) need a little reassurance before I let things go to my head.
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Relax lady, he's more than likely just busy. It seems common for the Bulls to pull this schtick, not so much the females. You'll even notice it here on the boards. Who does the lions share of answering, who is here most every day? Yep, the Bullettes, not so much with the males ( many pardons to TaurGuy, he's a constant for the men of our species here ). Breathe in..and let it out slooooow. 🙂
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Lol, I've certainly been breathing all day. I didn't really calm down until I got home from work and my lovely aries roommate made dinner (and she's also in the "my boy is a douchebag who has gone cold" phase). Again, and I'll openly admit it now, I take anti-anxiety/anti-depressants and the fact that I've run out has probably not made this any easier for me. I suppose I'm just afraid that one day he isn't going to return since this is something I've dealt with in the past; and even more surprising to me than to others, he is someone I wouldn't want to lose, as a friend or as a lover.

I'm just going to assume that his text today, even being just one word, was his way of saying that he was still around, albeit not available now.

I guess I got spoiled with my taurus brother because I never really experienced the bull schtick from him hahaha. Goodness, if he did, I wonder how his leo lady took it lol.
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I know it's easier said than done...but, relax and float; just do you. Honestly, he will come back and as VB said, he may be busy. BUT, that's not an excuse, but I've found when something/someone is annoying me, I just get involved in something else, and I forget about whatever it is that is bothering me, since I am not sitting around pining about it. If I am feel I am getting too close to someone and I don't want to, or I am not certain about them, I have to admit that I have been known to fall back some too. Not saying it's a good thing, just that I've done it before too. Be easy on yourself, it's not anything you have or haven't done, as trite as it's sounds, that expression, "It's not you, it's me" probably holds true in this scenario. Also, with texts/emails; it's easy to get the wrong idea because there is no emotion behind it. If he was busy, he probably just wanted to respond quickly to your text and keep it moving on his end. I've responded to text before with one or two word responses, and I wasn't mad or anything, just busy, but wanted them to know I got their message.
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I agree with USC as well. And one thing that absolutely drives me flat out bonkers insane is someone who disappears on me. I've never liked it, never will like it. I suppose it's because I'm always there for whomever, whenever, so it gets stuck in my craw. But this ain't bout me, it's bout this damned Bull. Just keep breathing Candeh. We've got your back.
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Thanks for the advice and support, guys. Like you VB, I don't like it when someone disappears on me. It drives me bonkers, and being the antsy virgo I am (with obsessive scorpio tendencies), it really doesn't help me out much lol. Ironically, my taurus and I kind of disappear on each other sometimes: when he does it, he's just being him, and when I do it, I'm either mirroring him or I get caught up in something. But I always like to send him a random text to let him know that I'm still around. I just miss him, that's all; even when he disappears and it pisses me off, I just think about how I'd like to be next to him and watching a stupid video on youtube lol.
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i agree with the others.

hot/cold? for me, it's usually due to something stressful going on and/or not wanting to be bothered at a given moment. i'm sure other aspects of my chart come to play in this but overall, i think when a taurus becomes focused (fixated) on something, it's in exclusion of everything else. we just want to git 'er dun! and we steamroll until the task is complete. we're like a train in this way...full steam ahead or full reverse.

relationship-wise, partners can be VERY distracting. we give our all and can fixate on making sure the other person is happy, comfortable, enjoying themselves in our presence. once when we're able to be by ourselves again it's like, SHIT! I HAVE SO MUCH TO DO! and that's when we may refocus/fixate.

for me, i can't get anything of any import done unless i am completely immersed in it. i HAVE TO wall myself off to complete the task. the greater the task/stress, the more distance i create between myself and others.

with that said, he could simply be an ashhole.

*shrugs*
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Meh, I already established that he's an asshole, I tell him this to his face most of the time, lol. But, it's more of a playful thing because he's an asshole in the way a boy was in grade school and he teased you all the time because he liked you. Here's how a conversation between us went once:

Me: I guess I should feel special being your verbal punching bag.
Him: You should. I'm an asshole to people I like.

Usually I just dish it right back because we're both pretty big smartasses.

Still, thanks for the insight. If it turns out that he's being a douche, I'll deal with it accordingly, but it helps to have the taurus perspective.
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Posted by Starfish225
IDK..Are you guys in a relationship? This wouldnt work for me and it doesnt seem like your not to happy with it..If nothing else he needs to communicate that the issue is not you and that he may be dealing with somethings in his life
and may need to do a lil space from time to time. It seems like your needing stability and certainty and right now he is not offerring you that. But IDK..



The communication, in the grand scheme of things, would be nice and really all I would need. The space doesn't bother me because I need it from time to time too. I even get caught up in my own life and disappear if I don't keep myself on track. I don't like to be around people all hours of the day, so being away from him isn't the issue. Are we official? Not yet exactly, but we have offhandedly mentioned that we're not seeing other people; so yes, he isn't exactly entitled to tell me everything, be there, ect, but there is a certain level of understanding between us, and I have mentioned slightly that when he goes off that he could just let me know. It didn't bother too much before as it does now, but like I mentioned, little things are getting to me and it isn't just this bull, so I'm also adjusting to some changes within myself and my surroundings. If he comes back, I'll probably mention it again, but the other bulls here (well, the bullettes) have helped me out.
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Posted by dreamer23
My problem with the disappearing thing is that there is too much room for interpretation. Is he busy, needs some space, not checking for me? I dont wanna have to wonder.




This is basically what bothers me. I wouldn't be nearly as bothered if I knew what was going on with him so that I didn't have a heart attack trying to figure out what happened. It's like, "Did I do something?" "Is he okay?" "Is he busy?" "Does he hate me all of a sudden?"

So yeah, I understanding. Besides the whole missing him thing.

I hope you and your Taurus can work things out as well. I'm also just trying to go about my life and work without trying to think about it too much. But, it can be taxing when I start to think about/miss him again. I know he's around, I just wonder when he's going to reappear again before I have to send him another text or something lol.
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I've probably done more postings about Taurus men than anyone else.. LOL Just ask VB and TaurGuy.. LOL
I had SUCH an experience with my Taurus yesterday.. Piscean to Taurus.... it's not you it IS him.. His disappearing didn't mean that he didn't care for me at all. It was the opposite. He was in a bad mood, working and stressing out about other things and didn't want to subject me to that and take it the wrong way. He was, in his own way, protecting me. NOW, I understand. We texted this morning... and he responded, one word answer.. and I'm cool with it. I do my thing, he does his and we catch up when we can. Now that I understand this, makes THAT side of my life easier. I GET IT now.. :-)

I'm a little proud of myself today, I nearly made him cry tears of joy.. I think I FINALLY broke into that guarded heart of his! Took 16 years, but I FINALLY got to him. :-) ::VICTORY DANCE::

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Posted by Starfish225
"Piscean to Taurus.... it's not you it IS him"

YEP!!! Guess you gotta know whats your stuff and whats his stuff..But even then a girl gets tired
and needs to feel appreciated and not through words but actions


"I think I FINALLY broke into that guarded heart of his! Took 16 years,"

WOW!!! You ladies are way better them me and I mean that with love..



Let me clarify.. I got to him before, he didn't see my value. Lost me once before.. Looked around and saw my worth. But fear took over. He was afraid of being hurt. Like I sent him yesterday- "Trust and honesty are so hard to find. And we have it." Like i said, he was near tears. He said to me, which was like GOLD to my ears... "You are the sweetest, most caring person I have ever met in my life. I'm not going to be with anyone who isn't going to love me the way I love them." That's how he said hello to me. :-) I did it. Now.. all I can do and will do is wait.. Wait until he's ready... and since I know I've got him... i'm happy to do that. :-) P-A-T-I-E-N-C-E! It's hard, but SO worth it!
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Posted by shortii
I've probably done more postings about Taurus men than anyone else.. LOL Just ask VB and TaurGuy.. LOL
I had SUCH an experience with my Taurus yesterday.. Piscean to Taurus.... it's not you it IS him.. His disappearing didn't mean that he didn't care for me at all. It was the opposite. He was in a bad mood, working and stressing out about other things and didn't want to subject me to that and take it the wrong way. He was, in his own way, protecting me. NOW, I understand. We texted this morning... and he responded, one word answer.. and I'm cool with it. I do my thing, he does his and we catch up when we can. Now that I understand this, makes THAT side of my life easier. I GET IT now.. :-)

I'm a little proud of myself today, I nearly made him cry tears of joy.. I think I FINALLY broke into that guarded heart of his! Took 16 years, but I FINALLY got to him. :-) ::VICTORY DANCE::



This is something I have to keep reminding myself, because (and this may sound a little... ehhh vain?) I KNOW I didn't do anything wrong after we last saw each other; but my mind will go haywire and I will start worrying that I did something entirely wrong and pissed him off. Patience is hard, and I had to learn it over time with other guys. It does test me, because he's more than just my lover. He is my friend, and I hate losing friends more than lovers. I can only hope that he knows how much I care about him and that I'm still here (well metaphorically).
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I guess you can say his disappearing has made me realize how much I do actually care about him, which is a little scary for me too. (And I will admit, that for the last couple of days, I was paranoid that I could have... *gasp* a bun in the oven, but that was just me being paranoid again).


Could be other things.. :-) Don't jump that gun unless you HAVE TO.:-)
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I guess you can say his disappearing has made me realize how much I do actually care about him, which is a little scary for me too. (And I will admit, that for the last couple of days, I was paranoid that I could have... *gasp* a bun in the oven, but that was just me being paranoid again).


Could be other things.. :-) Don't jump that gun unless you HAVE TO.:-)
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Lol, I'm always freaking out about that, which is why I always use double the protection (ie birth control and condom, but sometimes I slip on the latter). I'm really not trying to start a family until after grad school.
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Posted by Starfish225
"I got to him before, he didn't see my value. Lost me once before.. Looked around and saw my worth. But fear took over"

Very Typical, not just for a Taurus man but most men of any sign..I get this..And honestly every ex has returned to me
figured this out, but it always to late..So lucky for him it may not be to late..



My Aqua ex recently came back into my life... or at least he is trying to. They always come back at the most inconvenient times.
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Posted by Starfish225
"I got to him before, he didn't see my value. Lost me once before.. Looked around and saw my worth. But fear took over"

Very Typical, not just for a Taurus man but most men of any sign..I get this..And honestly every ex has returned to me
figured this out, but it always to late..So lucky for him it may not be to late..


For my Taurus.. no. it's not.. for my Scorpio.. alas it is.. I'm tired of reaching...

For now.. It's all about me becoming my best self.. for ME.. my Taurus will be there and hopefully timing is right.. but time is all there is right now.. and I"m SO okay with that. 🙂
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Posted by Starfish225
"My Aqua ex recently came back into my life... or at least he is trying to. They always come back at the most inconvenient times."

Oh Boy don't I know..Have had my fair share of these guys and they always.always return..SMH!!



"For my Taurus.. no. it's not.. for my Scorpio.. alas it is.. I'm tired of reaching...

For now.. It's all about me becoming my best self.. for ME.. my Taurus will be there and hopefully timing is right.. but time is all there is right now.. and I"m SO okay with that."

Goodluck girl..Cause for a Pisces women to wait out all of this after all this time she really loves the man..Guess this Pisces gal has never really loved a man, bc after awhile I am out to not look back..


I will wait as long as I know he's worth it. This one.. to be lost once and come back.. and be better than before.. is worth it to me. This is the HARDEST lesson for me to learn, but one that I need for life. PATIENCE! Might as well learn it in a safe environment while I can.

As far as my Scorp.. he refused and refused to give me what I needed. I waited 12 years for him to do it. It's not coming. 😢
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Goodluck girl..Cause for a Pisces women to wait out all of this after all this time she really loves the man..Guess this Pisces gal has never really loved a man, bc after awhile I am out to not look back..

Don't get me wrong.. I've left quite a few and not looked back.. but this one.. I just couldn't. Just couldn't.. Never knew if he'd be back, but I let him go... about 14 years ago. And he came back..
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*I'm pretty certain that I'm on block for some reason but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.*

Have you seen any synastry aspects between the two of you that relate to ethier of your moons and mercuries...or if you have compatible mercuries with each other.

There are times when I'm with my husband when he acts cold, and wants to be left alone and it's pure torture for me because I want to know what's wrong and how to make it better. But it's like, the more i try to nurture, the more resistant he gets with me. So I've learned to just leave him alone and just be there...and when he comes back he's sweeter than ever.

It isn't that aquarius moons are unfeeling/uncaring...or even that they are emotionally retarded, but an extremely reserved type. They need that time alone to focus. When he does come back to you, you can tell or you can FEEL that he gets you. Or that he understands, its almost psychic, like whenever I think he's unperceptive..or he doesn't care..I find time and again that he's probably ten times more perceptive than I could ever be.

So I think you're in the right ballpark, you're withholding trying to sound too emotionally needy. But you have a right to be honest with him about it..you don't have to go out and say you're insecure when he ducks out..but you can let him know that you miss him. Which is the heart of the matter right? Saying that you miss seeing him or that you want to see him isn't going to scare a guy away that really digs you.
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You're not on block lol! I just hid the previous post because there had been an issue that I actually resolved myself... I'm proud lol. But I can tell you what happened.

I hadn't seen my taurus in about two weeks, but we still spoke off and on when he wasn't busy. So this past Friday, I texted him asking if he was doing anything after he got off work. I wanted to see him for a little, even if it was just for a short visit. He told me he could probably see me and that he would let me know after he got off work. Mind you, this conversation occured about 10pm. So, I'm back at home and waiting for a text either asking me to come over or to tell me that he was too tired; I would have been okay on either accounts. However, I didn't receive a text at all. I didn't go to bed until 2am, and needless to say... I was pissed. I didn't care if I couldn't see him as long as he told me, but I got no notice at all. So, I suppose I was just venting, I posted the problem on here at like 3am because I couldn't figure out what to do. Anyway, the next morning, I woke up still feeling upset (I had decided to sleep on the issue so that I wouldn't say anything I would regret later). I finally decided that I needed to text him if I wanted to feel somewhat sane. So, I said to him "So, I understand if you're busy and tired, but you could have sent me some kind of notice to let me know that nothing was going down." I left it at that. The taurus immediately texted me back saying that he was sorry (he said that a few times actually) and told me that he didn't get off work until 12:30am and figured I had gone to sleep or found another adventure, so he went home and passed out. By that time, I wasn't even that angry anymore, but I told him that the next time that happened, I would appreciate a text or something because it made me feel better. And I left it at that.

So, later on that night I was going out with my roommate when I recieved a text from him. He texted me telling me what his schedule was like, kind of like how I told him to. It made me smile. I told him not to worry about being busy and that if he wasn't too tired after work on Sunday, I'd love to come over. And so, that's exactly what happened. When I was with him, he apologized to me (in the best way possible) for upsetting me on Friday. And before I left him Monday evening, I told him that I missed him. He told me that he missed me too and apologized for not being around for the last couple of weeks.

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So, BS, I understand what you mean about the taurus being sort of perceptive to things. I think he knew that his absence was a little upsetting to me even if I didn't say anything; he often apologized for being MIA (even though he was still MIA after apologizing).

Also, thank you for the insight on the Aquarius moon. It's a challenge getting used to it (since I have a scorpio moon), but I'm learning a bit each time I'm with him and such. I don't want to sound needy, but I want him to know that I still care/want him. I mean, I'm not hugely demonstrative either, lol. I'm gettign more and more used to the idea that when he needs to be alone, I leave him alone. And I'll randomly send him texts of things he might find funny/interesting just to let him know I'm still there.

And I've learned more now that if he doesn't answer my texts, I do know that he reads them and he doesn't answer because he's either sleeping or distracted or he just forgot or something. However, I think he knows now not to cross me really because I think my little angry text caught him off guard lol.
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Have you seen any synastry aspects between the two of you that relate to ethier of your moons and mercuries...or if you have compatible mercuries with each other.



I only just saw this part, but upon looking,

We have mercury opposing saturn, which seems to have something to do with communication.

Has for our moon aspects:

Moon Conjunct Uranus
Sun Opposition Moon
Moon Opposition Jupiter
Moon Opposition Venus
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I'm lazy.. from skyview zone...but i strongly suggest looking into depth of these aspects.

Moon conjunct Uranus:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Moon is in conjunction with your partner??s Uranus? You will feel an instant attraction to your romantic partner, an almost explosive excitement about the potentials for your new relationship, and a desire to meet your partners emotional needs. This one takes off like a rocket but its level of intensity can prove hard to sustain over time. If your romantic partner??s Moon is in conjunction with your Uranus your sexual attraction is heightened and his/her desire to meet your needs is interesting but you will need intellectual stimulation if this relationship is going to mature.

Moon opposition Sun:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Moon is in opposition with your partner??s Sun? A Moon opposition Sun aspect necessitates a reworking of your relationship expectations. Differences in background, thinking, temperament, and approach to relationships attract you together and then repulse you in what can become a repeating cycle. If your partner??s Moon is in opposition to your Sun, you will have a frustrating time trying to get your emotional needs met.

Moon opposition Jupiter:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Moon is in opposition with your partner??s Jupiter? You have your own feelings and your natural approach to luck, optimism, freedom, relationships and romance, but you sense it isn't up to you anymore. You have to balance them with your romantic partner??s attitudes and viewpoints in order to have harmony in your domestic life and his/her approach to things is quite different from your own. If your partner??s Moon is in opposition to your Jupiter he/she feels that way about you. You were both attracted to each other because you each have something that the other needs. Learn to balance and you??ll both expand your horizo


Moon opposition Venus:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Moon is in opposition with your partner??s Venus? What you feel that you need from your partner in a loving romantic relationship seems to be contrary to what or how your partner is inclined to think he/she should give it. If your partner??s Moon is in opposition to your Venus, the love you feel and the ways you express it do not seem to match your partner??s expectations. You both are drawn together by a need to experience ea
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Mercury opposition Saturn:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Mercury is in opposition to your partner??s Saturn? You need to overcome your rather ridged viewpoints and understand that just because your partner??s viewpoints are very different from yours doesn't mean that you shouldn't listen to another point of view. If your romantic partner??s Mercury is in opposition to your Saturn, your partner tends to become more restrictive or inflexible as you discuss issues unless you use patience and develop a willingness to listen and discuss matters without giving him/her a feeling like you don't value your partner's thinking abilities.

Moon opposition Venus:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Moon is in opposition with your partner??s Venus? What you feel that you need from your partner in a loving romantic relationship seems to be contrary to what or how your partner is inclined to think he/she should give it. If your partner??s Moon is in opposition to your Venus, the love you feel and the ways you express it do not seem to match your partner??s expectations. You both are drawn together by a need to experience each others version of love, romance and domestic partnership, and to grow by incorporating balance, harmony and cooperation into your relationship. You are both right.
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BS- THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this site! OMG.. it' is AWESOME!!!

I did our charts and the last one is DEAD ON!!!
Pluto conjunction Pluto:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Pluto is in conjunction with your romantic partner's Pluto? You are highly affected by your romantic partner. When you are together, repressed emotions and latent desires are triggered. You may not consciously understand what it is that attracts you to him/her.

This is BY FAR the best astrological relationship website ever.
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Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
ya got show who's is who...is your mercury opposing his saturn or vice versa,,

But sun opposing moon...moon opposing venus and mecury opposing saturn seems to illustrate what you're saying in the first place..the hot and cold.



A lot of the sites I go to don't exactly instruct me on who's placement opposes whom's placement :/

I've been trying to find the perfect site for that. *le sigh*
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shortii, can you direct me to what site you used for your chart? I've used like astro.com, and it's pretty thorough, but I would love to see what you used.

And you're welcome! I'm always curious to figure things out, especially about this taurus guy. He's constantly throwing little curveballs at me, but that is probably why I like him lol.



Sure, Cand!

It's http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal

you can then find your chart there.. it's pretty cool! HUGELY helpful!
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Ohhh, cafeastrology lol. I use that site all the time. Maybe I can find try a compatibility chart on there.


Im sure you can. I think there's a free one and in-depth one.

I don't really understand my bull now... he's confusing me. Could also be Mercury in retrograde.

Time will tell..
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What is your bull doing to confuse you?

My taurus is on a family vacation currently, and while I know he is off doing stuff, I'm not too worried. Although, I'm trying to teach myself to not be afraid to let him know that I miss him...
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ya got show who's is who...is your mercury opposing his saturn or vice versa,,

But sun opposing moon...moon opposing venus and mecury opposing saturn seems to illustrate what you're saying in the first place..the hot and cold.



A lot of the sites I go to don't exactly instruct me on who's placement opposes whom's placement :/

I've been trying to find the perfect site for that. *le sigh*
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They do, but if I was going to assume which one is which I'd be inclined to say your planets are on the left, and his plaents are on the right...did you put your info first or his info first? But ethier way, don't those aspects sound familiar in relation to your relationship with him?
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Posted by Candeh15
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Ohhh, cafeastrology lol. I use that site all the time. Maybe I can find try a compatibility chart on there.


Im sure you can. I think there's a free one and in-depth one.

I don't really understand my bull now... he's confusing me. Could also be Mercury in retrograde.

Time will tell..



What is your bull doing to confuse you?

My taurus is on a family vacation currently, and while I know he is off doing stuff, I'm not too worried. Although, I'm trying to teach myself to not be afraid to let him know that I miss him...
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Just being his normal trying to be aloof self. He gets so wrapped up in work and other happenings that he forgets others exists I think. Maybe its just cuz i'm far away.. who knows... He just riddle. LOL