Can't figure out if she really likes me... also I am confused too haha

Hello. I am really falling hard for this beautiful virgo woman. I am an Aries with 3 planets in Taurus, and have deep feelings of a scorpio.... At first we were introduced through mutual friends and talked on facebook, and we joked and laughed for awhile. I asked her out mostly harmlessly pretty quickly, because well us Aries are quick. We like to figure things out fast, but she said it was too fast. Which was fine. I admited to her that because she was so attractive I got a little sexually attracted. We talked some more about all kinds of things then she shut down completely so I was confused.

I went over to my friends place and she was there, and she was super extroverted around them, but completely withdrawn with me, even looked angry or sad, but smiling to them. I noticed her peeking out the window every so often as I was helping my friend move some wood pieces.

She stayed quiet after that too. I kept asking her if she was okay and still wanted to talk to me, but never really got an answer. a couple weeks later I basically tried to move on even though I felt something nice about her.

My friend kind of forced her into a date with me by being her voice, My friend had me on speaker phone which I didn't know until after, but apparently she was giggling about me saying yes to a date. but she really didn't want too right now. She ended up backing out of the date at the last second. I had a rose for her, and rushed over to give it her because she didn't want anyone to know about the date. I covered the rose in bags, and gave her the rose and a few other things that was for our date. She said it was perfect which I understand is a good thing lol. She clearly said she would like to go out the next day, and to keep it between us. So I was okay with that.

The next day I asked her instead of coffee that maybe we should get some food at least. After all I am not that cheap... but I asked her are you going to back out again? She said she probably will. So I laughed, and said I thought you want too? and she said she does but can't right now, she opened up about some of her feelings which I will not post here, but it was progress at least.

She wanted me to say the date was great if anyone asked. I told her I cannot lie to my friends, I will say "We enjoy talking to each other" My best friend asked me if I thought her place was nice, and I paused for a second and remembered some pictures on facebook and said yes it looks nice. I don't feel good about this. She said I was right about saying it the way I did, but she did say the date it was great to my best friend. I thought from the reading I did virgo's don't lie? Is it some sort of logical thing where it is not a lie because she still enjoyed the gestures and the conversations? Or is that sort of mind game test? I thought for sure it was, but I really don't know since I can't use my skills at reading her. I am usually easily able to pick people apart and in some areas I can, but in others she is a very difficult to figure out.

She said she just wants to talk on facebook for now which I respected her wishes and expected us to talk on facebook. So I kept sending her some messages and helping her with a few things. I suggest she meditate to help with the mind, but her responses were very short, and she started to ignore my messages again, eventually she would read them, but at this point. I was not sleeping or eating properly so I had to tell her that. I told her I can't get any work done either. I run my own home business. So I have to detach myself because you say you want to talk, but then you don't. I told her I didn't really feel that important to her. I feel like a lab rat right now haha. I also told her I am afraid to hurt her because I was a little angry at the lack of words to actions, and my temper as an aries can crush anything. So I had to detach for that reason also.

When I did see her and handed her the rose the look in her eye and the warm feeling I got was something I personally never felt before from a woman. She has a spell on me for sure. I told her to meditate and try it and sent her a heart emjoi... I don't doubt what I saw in her eyes, but at the same time. I don't know if I am just delusional haha.

Normally I would have moved on already, but there is something about her that I can't shake. I know she seems very smart, and she is the most attractive woman I have laid my eyes on, but I still can't for the life me even understand why I feel this way because I don't feel like I know her enough to feel this way. Which bothers me. I almost feel like she is putting me a pedestal and I don't know why. I am confident, but I don't have a superiority complex, I think she is better then me in many ways. So I really don't understand. These days I put myself in the position to reject and not be rejected. So I don't normally let woman reject me anymore, not that it matters, but with her this one seems worth fighting for, and I am not sure if I could reject her anyway she is too sweet to be rejected. Is giving a virgo the silent treatment a good idea? Because I am kind of doing that right now. Mostly for my own sanity, but I feel like she needs to step up. I have no problem to say "We are going to this place at 6pm blah blah. show up" but then I think because she has been running away that she would just cancel on me. That prevents me from bothering to make a hardcore plan. Why is it so hard to get consistent behavior from a virgo?

I do have the lack of patience as a typical Aries. Do I just need to be patient? I keep playing the Guns N Roses song Patience over and over haha.

Any thoughts? I will expect a reply in 7 months. Since I know it may take awhile. (I'm joking)

Thanks for reading.

Shawn

Awe bless your lil heart.

You're pursuing her. This is why I like fire signs. You guys are very straightforward.

Virgos are pretty inconsistent when they're figuring you out. Give it a little bit more time 🙂

Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Awe bless your lil heart.

You're pursuing her. This is why I like fire signs. You guys are very straightforward.

Virgos are pretty inconsistent when they're figuring you out. Give it a little bit more time 🙂

Awww thanks 🙂

Okay, so I should leave her alone for a bit? I don't want to flood her mind with information either as I can type a lot haha.

Shawn

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Awe bless your lil heart.

You're pursuing her. This is why I like fire signs. You guys are very straightforward.

Virgos are pretty inconsistent when they're figuring you out. Give it a little bit more time 🙂

Awww thanks 🙂

Okay, so I should leave her alone for a bit? I don't want to flood her mind with information either as I can type a lot haha.

Shawn

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No problem 🙂

Yes, just pull back a little

Aries with a deep feelings OF a Scorpio?

I am shocked.

Is it even real?

Don't listen to the others,

You're doing great 🙂

I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

Posted by DivaCanLeo
Dude are there cliff notes. This isn't women studies. Ain't nobody going to read a 10 page essay

haha, well thanks for the people who did read it. I actually take my relationships seriously. So I am going to think of every little aspect because it is important. After all I am looking for a life partner. That is not a decision people should make lightly. Society that says that we should stop overthinking. They are wrong. Then people wonder why so many relationships/marriages fail... But I take my friendships just as seriously. So your pondering of how I thrive in the world. Is I keep to myself a lot because most people I find annoying.

Posted by Gemitati
Aries with a deep feelings OF a Scorpio?

I am shocked.

Is it even real?

Maybe I am exaggerating have no idea what a scorpio feels. My Saturn planet is in scorpio and I do have very intense feelings. I can cry from a sad movie for example which is really not typical of an Aries. I love animals. They are like super attracted to me also.

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Don't listen to the others,

You're doing great 🙂

Thanks 🙂

Posted by Diddybop
I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

As for blah blah... hahaha in person I am much more calm and relaxed. I can type a shitload on the internet but spend hours saying nothing in person. So guess it depends on the person, unless of course it is a really interesting intelligent conversation.

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@spur

uhmm.. why does she seem to want your interactions together to be kept secret tho?

No idea, My friend setup the date, and then proceeded to tell everyone that we were going on a date and it freaked her out I think. I think she must have anxiety or something, it is why I suggested she meditate because I used to have tons of anxiety myself. She is a triple Virgo if that helps. Rising,Sun and Moon

I just skimmed through your post so I might miss out some stuff but anyways why would you even listen to her for anything she says like saying the date was great, messaging through facebook(only message to set dates which can lead to sex)? Why would you buy her a fucking rose?Lol. ANd you know why she starts to reply you late? its because you are starting to give in to her, hold your ground dude. Don't ever think shes all too great and put her on a pedestal, continue treating her like shit and stop listening to her orders, don't call or text her and make her chase you.

And sorry if I came across too harsh, I am no-filter too in real life. I just hate to see another one bite the dust.

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I just skimmed through your post so I might miss out some stuff but anyways why would you even listen to her for anything she says like saying the date was great, messaging through facebook(only message to set dates which can lead to sex)? Why would you buy her a fucking rose?Lol. ANd you know why she starts to reply you late? its because you are starting to give in to her, hold your ground dude. Don't ever think shes all too great and put her on a pedestal, continue treating her like shit and stop listening to her orders, don't call or text her and make her chase you.

Honestly I was keeping my distance it was my best friend that forced the situation. So it really was not me. I think she knows that, but you are right. I even told her I thought my friend put too much pressure on you. So I think this could be partly why we will plan things in secret because my best friend is way too pushy. It really is not me. As for the rose to me this is a way to say I am serious in an action sense.

Anyway I think you are right about the giving in part. ironic you mention bites the dust, because that song plays in my head when I go on dates usually haha. I know I am not easy to handle.

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

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Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't who you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

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I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. She was very deceptive. No thanks haha.

Right now I see her as a perfectionist, and perfectionist's scare the crap out of me, but she also seems sweet at the same time, but maybe that is an illusion haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

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Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

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Age is just a number. Why is a 11 year gap a big deal? I don't see the issue you're rasing it is not logical. If we are both mature people what difference does it make? Sounds very judgemental on your part.

The only reason I don't typically pursue woman her age is because I find them too childish, but I don't find her childish at all. She is very professional, maybe even more mature than me.

I take insult to me being a typical guy, because I have slept with a total of 2 women in my entire life. How many guys would admit that? No most would brag about how many they slept with like it was important. I dismissed the other one because she was lying and trying to manipulating me which is impossible, That is not a foundation for a long term relationship so yes.... Fantasy is all that one is good for. Harsh but true. When I called her out on it her response was "I need to be harder to read" wtf? You want to be more deceptive? That is a typical woman in my expierence. Which I am totally not into. I rather be single than to put up with that. Which is why I spent 17 years not even trying to meet anyone.

Women need to understand men don't want to be your slave. That is not equality. 😛

And yes I want someone who is not hiding or being deceptive or manipulating me. I can't stand that. I just leave them alone at that point. She hasn't done any of that at this point. Which is why I still want to talk to her. As for it being urgent. I am a typical Aries I don't have a lot of patience lol. We been talking for about a month now on and off. So it's not like it's been 3 days....

You just seem very negative about it, and pessimistic. Be more positive! 🙂

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

Age is just a number. Why is a 11 year gap a big deal? I don't see the issue you're rasing it is not logical. If we are both mature people what difference does it make? Sounds very judgemental on your part.

The only reason I don't typically pursue woman her age is because I find them too childish, but I don't find her childish at all. She is very professional, maybe even more mature than me.

I take insult to me being a typical guy, because I have slept with a total of 2 women in my entire life. How many guys would admit that? No most would brag about how many they slept with like it was important. I dismissed the other one because she was lying and trying to manipulating me which is impossible, That is not a foundation for a long term relationship so yes.... Fantasy is all that one is good for. Harsh but true. When I called her out on it her response was "I need to be harder to read" wtf? You want to be more deceptive? That is a typical woman in my expierence. Which I am totally not into. I rather be single than to put up with that. Which is why I spent 17 years not even trying to meet anyone.

And yes I want someone who is not hiding or being deceptive or manipulating me. I can't stand that. I just leave them alone at that point. She hasn't done any of that at this point. Which is why I still want to talk to her. As for it being urgent. I am a typical Aries I don't have a lot of patience lol.

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Hmm... if she were 33 and u 44 or whatever than ur right, age is just a number. But at 22 it seems too young for a 33 year old. It's not the number but rather the maturity level. I'd expect you to be much more mature than even a mature 22 year old. Life shld have taught you a few more lessons. I guess that's not necessarily true but it's skeevy in my opinion and experience and u should probably recognize that many people including her might feel like that.

You sound very typical in that you seem like you don't think getting to know someone is very important. You just like to jump to conclusions and actions and you don't even seem to recognize your insincerity. "Most guys probably just like your looks but I want to get to know you bette"r? Why would you assume others don't want to know her better? They do. Or at least, like you, they probably say they do. U think u figured out that Gemini in 7 hrs and in reality you probably didn't - all humans are complex and have layers but it takes time to actually get to know them. You sound judgemental in your assessment of her.

Leave the young girl alone and learn some patience. It will lead to more lasting relationships.

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

Age is just a number. Why is a 11 year gap a big deal? I don't see the issue you're rasing it is not logical. If we are both mature people what difference does it make? Sounds very judgemental on your part.

The only reason I don't typically pursue woman her age is because I find them too childish, but I don't find her childish at all. She is very professional, maybe even more mature than me.

I take insult to me being a typical guy, because I have slept with a total of 2 women in my entire life. How many guys would admit that? No most would brag about how many they slept with like it was important. I dismissed the other one because she was lying and trying to manipulating me which is impossible, That is not a foundation for a long term relationship so yes.... Fantasy is all that one is good for. Harsh but true. When I called her out on it her response was "I need to be harder to read" wtf? You want to be more deceptive? That is a typical woman in my expierence. Which I am totally not into. I rather be single than to put up with that. Which is why I spent 17 years not even trying to meet anyone.

And yes I want someone who is not hiding or being deceptive or manipulating me. I can't stand that. I just leave them alone at that point. She hasn't done any of that at this point. Which is why I still want to talk to her. As for it being urgent. I am a typical Aries I don't have a lot of patience lol.

Hmm... if she were 33 and u 44 or whatever than ur right, age is just a number. But at 22 it seems too young for a 33 year old. It's not the number but rather the maturity level. I'd expect you to be much more mature than even a mature 22 year old. Life shld have taught you a few more lessons. I guess that's not necessarily true but it's skeevy in my opinion and experience and u should probably recognize that many people including her might feel like that.

You sound very typical in that you seem like you don't think getting to know someone is very important. You just like to jump to conclusions and actions and you don't even seem to recognize your insincerity. "Most guys probably just like your looks but I want to get to know you bette"r? Why would you assume others don't want to know her better? They do. Or at least, like you, they probably say they do. U think u figured out that Gemini in 7 hrs and in reality you probably didn't - all humans are complex and have layers but it takes time to actually get to know them. You sound judgemental in your assessment of her.

Leave the young girl alone and learn some patience. It will lead to more lasting relationships.

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Okay that is a more more logical reply.

I am judgemental. To me a person's character is what it is. If you start off by lying out of the gate that is just doing a disservice to you. How can I trust someone when they are lying in the first 7 hours? I can't, and if I don't have 100% trust I can't be with that person. It's as simple as that, but you're also judging my life when you know nothing about my life or what I have been through. I been through much worse than what most people have. So you are basing an opinion of me without actual information.

I don't think my intentions are bad at all. It makes me really sad you would say that. 😢 I even told her if she decided to date someone else I would be happy for her. So you really are jumping to conclusions.

I do agree that I need to leanr more patience though.

Shawn

lol sorry if I do seem pessimistic and negative about it. I read it back and I do sound like that. I guess I mean what I say but I don't want to be mean about it. And as someone who had an Aries come after them, him coming around and letting me get to know him helped more than anything he said.

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

Age is just a number. Why is a 11 year gap a big deal? I don't see the issue you're rasing it is not logical. If we are both mature people what difference does it make? Sounds very judgemental on your part.

The only reason I don't typically pursue woman her age is because I find them too childish, but I don't find her childish at all. She is very professional, maybe even more mature than me.

I take insult to me being a typical guy, because I have slept with a total of 2 women in my entire life. How many guys would admit that? No most would brag about how many they slept with like it was important. I dismissed the other one because she was lying and trying to manipulating me which is impossible, That is not a foundation for a long term relationship so yes.... Fantasy is all that one is good for. Harsh but true. When I called her out on it her response was "I need to be harder to read" wtf? You want to be more deceptive? That is a typical woman in my expierence. Which I am totally not into. I rather be single than to put up with that. Which is why I spent 17 years not even trying to meet anyone.

And yes I want someone who is not hiding or being deceptive or manipulating me. I can't stand that. I just leave them alone at that point. She hasn't done any of that at this point. Which is why I still want to talk to her. As for it being urgent. I am a typical Aries I don't have a lot of patience lol.

Hmm... if she were 33 and u 44 or whatever than ur right, age is just a number. But at 22 it seems too young for a 33 year old. It's not the number but rather the maturity level. I'd expect you to be much more mature than even a mature 22 year old. Life shld have taught you a few more lessons. I guess that's not necessarily true but it's skeevy in my opinion and experience and u should probably recognize that many people including her might feel like that.

You sound very typical in that you seem like you don't think getting to know someone is very important. You just like to jump to conclusions and actions and you don't even seem to recognize your insincerity. "Most guys probably just like your looks but I want to get to know you bette"r? Why would you assume others don't want to know her better? They do. Or at least, like you, they probably say they do. U think u figured out that Gemini in 7 hrs and in reality you probably didn't - all humans are complex and have layers but it takes time to actually get to know them. You sound judgemental in your assessment of her.

Leave the young girl alone and learn some patience. It will lead to more lasting relationships.

Okay that is a more more logical reply.

I am judgemental. To me a person's character is what it is. If you start off by lying out of the gate that is just doing a disservice to you. How can I trust someone when they are lying in the first 7 hours? I can't, and if I don't have 100% trust I can't be with that person. It's as simple as that, but you're also judging my life when you know nothing about my life or what I have been through. I been through much worse than what most people have. So you are basing an opinion of me without actual information.

I don't think my intentions are bad at all. It makes me really sad you would say that. 😢 I even told her if she decided to date someone else I would be happy for her. So you really are jumping to conclusions.

I do agree that I need to leanr more patience though.

Shawn

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I didn't mean to imply that I thought your intentions were bad... maybe just a little shallow.

I don't know you though. So I could be way off. But one thing to note is that your Virgo lied too and you didn't judge her nearly as harshly. People like who they like.

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lol sorry if I do seem pessimistic and negative about it. I read it back and I do sound like that. I guess I mean what I say but I don't want to be mean about it. And as someone who had an Aries come after them, him coming around and letting me get to know him helped more than anything he said.

That is true, and that is really all I am asking her for is that chance. If it's not meant to be I think we will both know. I don't want to take advantage of her. That is for sure. It did come across mean, but it is okay I forgive you. 🙂

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I'm sorry... but it doesn't seem to me that she's very interested in you. Or maybe she's being honest that it's just not right now for her. Either way, I think it's a good idea to try to distract yourself and move on for your sanity.

As a woman in general, when a lot of guys think you're attractive you get a lot of admirers. Guys who don't know you but "feel" so passionately about you. It's like how? You've admitted you don't even know her well but she's distracting from your work? I wouldn't take you seriously if you told me that which is unfortunate bc u sound sincere. But im sure ur not the only guy that likes her so u gotta get her to like u back not to all of a sudden feel the same attraction towards you that u have towards her.

How? Get to know her beyond her pretty face and womanly vibes. Like as a person. Let her get to know u. Let attraction build.

I love Aries men for their passion but as an earth sign all I heard was blah blah blah when my ex spoke. We vibed so I kept him around but wld never date him or sleep with him... until 3 years and a few too many drinks lol. U don't wanna wait that long!

That is good advice, yes I mean we did talk enough that I like some of her interests. So we do have some things in common, but just when we started to talk about more things is when she shut down. So that is why I don't have enough information. My problem is I care way too much about people in general. I am working on that. I used to drop everything I am doing to help my friends or family. Now I take better care of myself in this respect.

It is funny because I told her that too, most guys will just like you because of your looks, but I actually want to know her but she doesn't let me haha. I am not going to chase her forever she has to make a decision. I got enough self-respect to walk away.

Make a decision about what? It doesn't sound like you guys know each other well enough to make a decision about anything.

No, no guy says I just like you for your looks. They all "see something special" in you and want to get to know you better. But they don't really. They already have an idea of who they see and want you to be and then attraction fades when the girl isn't what you thought she was.

It's just too superficial to take too much of your energy or hers. Take a step back from even thinking about her as a potential girlfriend. But someone u just want to get to know better. U wouldn't pressure a friend to decide if they like u right? U'd let it develop. It seems like you have enough friends in common

where maybe you guys can become friends and you can equally decide if there's more there.

I'm glad to hear you're putting yourself first though! That's a good lesson. Happy holidays 🙂

I mean make a decision in the sense... like talk or don't. I put the ball firmly in her court in this respect. So it is really up to her. You are right attraction fades, and there is a sexual attraction, but I can't know if there is more if she doesn't talk? I will not sleep with her. I just won't. I am not young (33) she is (22) I don't even normally go after woman her age. At all because I don't relate to them. I could have sex with woman but I don't. I am not interested in just sex. I talked with another woman a month ago and figured her out after about 7 hours of conversation. That one was a Gemini. It was clear she wanted to have sex with me, but I just let her go. From a fantasy point of view sounds fun, but in a practical sense it is not because guys always end up having more feelings then it just fucks us up for months. No thanks haha.

Happy Holidays to you and yours also, and everyone else. 🙂

Thank you and I wish you and yours well in every sense!

At the same time, based on what you've said, I sincerely hope that Virgo girl knows well enough to leave you alone and that you move on to relationships that are more healthy for you.

At 33 to be chasing after a 22 year old - you should know better, come on man. If she does date you it'd probably you put pressure on her. You feel sexual attraction to her and u think that gives u the right to pressure her to talk to u or not. It doesn't. Why is everything so urgent?

U want someone that is easier to figure out but when u found someone that was easy u reduced her to a fantasy and dismissed her. I'm sorry to say but you sound like a very typical guy and I initially thought you were very young.

Maybe you're trying to distract yourself from something else happening in your life? I guess I don't understand otherwise.

Age is just a number. Why is a 11 year gap a big deal? I don't see the issue you're rasing it is not logical. If we are both mature people what difference does it make? Sounds very judgemental on your part.

The only reason I don't typically pursue woman her age is because I find them too childish, but I don't find her childish at all. She is very professional, maybe even more mature than me.

I take insult to me being a typical guy, because I have slept with a total of 2 women in my entire life. How many guys would admit that? No most would brag about how many they slept with like it was important. I dismissed the other one because she was lying and trying to manipulating me which is impossible, That is not a foundation for a long term relationship so yes.... Fantasy is all that one is good for. Harsh but true. When I called her out on it her response was "I need to be harder to read" wtf? You want to be more deceptive? That is a typical woman in my expierence. Which I am totally not into. I rather be single than to put up with that. Which is why I spent 17 years not even trying to meet anyone.

And yes I want someone who is not hiding or being deceptive or manipulating me. I can't stand that. I just leave them alone at that point. She hasn't done any of that at this point. Which is why I still want to talk to her. As for it being urgent. I am a typical Aries I don't have a lot of patience lol.

Hmm... if she were 33 and u 44 or whatever than ur right, age is just a number. But at 22 it seems too young for a 33 year old. It's not the number but rather the maturity level. I'd expect you to be much more mature than even a mature 22 year old. Life shld have taught you a few more lessons. I guess that's not necessarily true but it's skeevy in my opinion and experience and u should probably recognize that many people including her might feel like that.

You sound very typical in that you seem like you don't think getting to know someone is very important. You just like to jump to conclusions and actions and you don't even seem to recognize your insincerity. "Most guys probably just like your looks but I want to get to know you bette"r? Why would you assume others don't want to know her better? They do. Or at least, like you, they probably say they do. U think u figured out that Gemini in 7 hrs and in reality you probably didn't - all humans are complex and have layers but it takes time to actually get to know them. You sound judgemental in your assessment of her.

Leave the young girl alone and learn some patience. It will lead to more lasting relationships.

Okay that is a more more logical reply.

I am judgemental. To me a person's character is what it is. If you start off by lying out of the gate that is just doing a disservice to you. How can I trust someone when they are lying in the first 7 hours? I can't, and if I don't have 100% trust I can't be with that person. It's as simple as that, but you're also judging my life when you know nothing about my life or what I have been through. I been through much worse than what most people have. So you are basing an opinion of me without actual information.

I don't think my intentions are bad at all. It makes me really sad you would say that. 😢 I even told her if she decided to date someone else I would be happy for her. So you really are jumping to conclusions.

I do agree that I need to leanr more patience though.

Shawn

I didn't mean to imply that I thought your intentions were bad... maybe just a little shallow.

I don't know you though. So I could be way off. But one thing to note is that your Virgo lied too and you didn't judge her nearly as harshly. People like who they like.

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yup I can't force her to like me. That is 100% true. My ex was kind of not attractive at all. I feel in love with her brain. So I think it's hard to know someone in text. You're right I didn't judge her harshly for that, but I did tell her I didn't like it. I always tell my closest friends if you put me in a position to lie to someones face. I am going to tell them the truth if they ask. So if you don't want them to know the truth then don't put me in the middle.

Oh thanks for everyone for all the advice. I know I can come across defensively, I always justify my actions or words. I appreciate the conversation.

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lol sorry if I do seem pessimistic and negative about it. I read it back and I do sound like that. I guess I mean what I say but I don't want to be mean about it. And as someone who had an Aries come after them, him coming around and letting me get to know him helped more than anything he said.

That is true, and that is really all I am asking her for is that chance. If it's not meant to be I think we will both know. I don't want to take advantage of her. That is for sure. It did come across mean, but it is okay I forgive you. 🙂

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Good. Thanks 🙂

In my ex's case he became better friends with my friends. Then we all hung out more and eventually we became better friends. And then I started to eye him lol. eventually we had some cocktails and the rest was history hehe.

Good luck

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lol sorry if I do seem pessimistic and negative about it. I read it back and I do sound like that. I guess I mean what I say but I don't want to be mean about it. And as someone who had an Aries come after them, him coming around and letting me get to know him helped more than anything he said.

That is true, and that is really all I am asking her for is that chance. If it's not meant to be I think we will both know. I don't want to take advantage of her. That is for sure. It did come across mean, but it is okay I forgive you. 🙂

Good. Thanks 🙂

In my ex's case he became better friends with my friends. Then we all hung out more and eventually we became better friends. And then I started to eye him lol. eventually we had some cocktails and the rest was history hehe.

Good luck

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Aww 🙂 So you should be used to the debates/arguments then haha.

Thanks your advice is appreciated. Sometimes we don't want to hear some of it, but no one is perfect. 🙂

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Aries with a deep feelings OF a Scorpio?

I am shocked.

Is it even real?

Maybe I am exaggerating have no idea what a scorpio feels. My Saturn planet is in scorpio and I do have very intense feelings. I can cry from a sad movie for example which is really not typical of an Aries. I love animals. They are like super attracted to me also.

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I see. I am a big emotional ball myself!

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Aries with a deep feelings OF a Scorpio?

I am shocked.

Is it even real?

Maybe I am exaggerating have no idea what a scorpio feels. My Saturn planet is in scorpio and I do have very intense feelings. I can cry from a sad movie for example which is really not typical of an Aries. I love animals. They are like super attracted to me also.

I see. I am a big emotional ball myself!

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aww. 🙂

It is partly why I don't date that much too cause women want that badboy type. They look at me a lot but once they see I am a teddy bear they run for the hills. I've been called a mushy man before, and a good listener. So I take pride in that. I think people are so paranoid these days they think that I am just acting. I do have a tough exterior shell so I think that is what people are attracted too at first, but people these days think emotions are a bad thing. I really don't understand it. Like one poster her said I should treat her badly. That is just not me at all. It would make me cry to do that to a person. So I can't do anything else but be myself, if I were to do that it would fake and not genuine which to me just a disservice to myself and to that person. I rather they run for the hills then to be around people for superficial reasons.

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My Mercury and Venus are in Virgo.

This girl sounds like she is acting exactly the way I would around someone I was interested in. I'm a Leo, but I'm Cancer-dominant and also have those Virgo bits I mentioned above, which makes me super, super shy when I'm around someone I'm interested in. Virgo-heavy people like to test people they are curious about, which is what she's doing. This is why some people think we're playing games, and essentially, we are... it's just hard to admit maybe for me because of my Leo ego, haha. She might have been shocked by the rose because of her wanting to take things very slowly, which is another thing I can relate to. If I were her, and my person of interest gave me a rose that quickly, I would be very confused. I would be thinking, "Is he trying to lure me into a trap and make me think that he's serious about me when he might not be?" I think that's why she's being cautious around you. She definitely wants to get to know you better, which is why sometimes she is giving you positive signals, but at the same time, she's trying to protect herself and process everything going on between you two, which is why sometimes she's shutting down. She just needs time to think.

Thanks, that makes sense. I even told her I don't want mind games because I did feel that way in the early part of our conversation, but then I realized she is processing data like a computer. So I let that slide because it was really not a big deal. I don't think it is fair for her to observe me when I can't do the same. I am very intune with people's voices and bodly language. So this is ideally what I need in order to understand her. With actual conversation, and yes that is seflish to an extent. I even told her that too, but any relationship is a two-way street and right now it feels one way.

It is funny you mentioned testing me because when I told her I can't lie to my best friend. She laughed a ton about that. So that maybe one of her tests? lol

I donated money to some persons baby recently cause it's in the hospital, and I can't afford to that, but I did anyway. I don't even know this person. I met her once shook her hand that was it. But I do understand that I need to understand her perspective as well. So maybe the rose was too soon. 🙂

What can I say I enjoy seeing joy in people's eyes although in this case I donated anonymously, but still my heart hurts.

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My Mercury and Venus are in Virgo.

This girl sounds like she is acting exactly the way I would around someone I was interested in. I'm a Leo, but I'm Cancer-dominant and also have those Virgo bits I mentioned above, which makes me super, super shy when I'm around someone I'm interested in. Virgo-heavy people like to test people they are curious about, which is what she's doing. This is why some people think we're playing games, and essentially, we are... it's just hard to admit maybe for me because of my Leo ego, haha. She might have been shocked by the rose because of her wanting to take things very slowly, which is another thing I can relate to. If I were her, and my person of interest gave me a rose that quickly, I would be very confused. I would be thinking, "Is he trying to lure me into a trap and make me think that he's serious about me when he might not be?" I think that's why she's being cautious around you. She definitely wants to get to know you better, which is why sometimes she is giving you positive signals, but at the same time, she's trying to protect herself and process everything going on between you two, which is why sometimes she's shutting down. She just needs time to think.

Thanks, that makes sense. I even told her I don't want mind games because I did feel that way in the early part of our conversation, but then I realized she is processing data like a computer. So I let that slide because it was really not a big deal. I don't think it is fair for her to observe me when I can't do the same. I am very intune with people's voices and bodly language. So this is ideally what I need in order to understand her. With actual conversation, and yes that is seflish to an extent. I even told her that too, but any relationship is a two-way street and right now it feels one way.

It is funny you mentioned testing me because when I told her I can't lie to my best friend. She laughed a ton about that. So that maybe one of her tests? lol

I agree on the bit about needing actual conversation to feel her out. It's just that we're extremely shy about doing that, even though we know that that's probably the best way to get to know someone really well.

I'm not sure why she laughed about you saying that you can't life to your best friend... but maybe her laughing is her way of seeing what kind of reaction you would give her if she did what she did, which is laughing. She was probably looking for you to reaffirm your point, saying something like, "It's true, I'm being serious." Virgo people look for morals and values in someone, so if you did tell her that you were being serious about saying that, that'd be a plus she'd see in you.

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okay that makes sense. Cause when she opened up to me about some of her feelings. I talked to her about it and she was like you don't need to care about that. I said I can't help but care haha. So that was probably one of them then.

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My Mercury and Venus are in Virgo.

This girl sounds like she is acting exactly the way I would around someone I was interested in. I'm a Leo, but I'm Cancer-dominant and also have those Virgo bits I mentioned above, which makes me super, super shy when I'm around someone I'm interested in. Virgo-heavy people like to test people they are curious about, which is what she's doing. This is why some people think we're playing games, and essentially, we are... it's just hard to admit maybe for me because of my Leo ego, haha. She might have been shocked by the rose because of her wanting to take things very slowly, which is another thing I can relate to. If I were her, and my person of interest gave me a rose that quickly, I would be very confused. I would be thinking, "Is he trying to lure me into a trap and make me think that he's serious about me when he might not be?" I think that's why she's being cautious around you. She definitely wants to get to know you better, which is why sometimes she is giving you positive signals, but at the same time, she's trying to protect herself and process everything going on between you two, which is why sometimes she's shutting down. She just needs time to think.

Thanks, that makes sense. I even told her I don't want mind games because I did feel that way in the early part of our conversation, but then I realized she is processing data like a computer. So I let that slide because it was really not a big deal. I don't think it is fair for her to observe me when I can't do the same. I am very intune with people's voices and bodly language. So this is ideally what I need in order to understand her. With actual conversation, and yes that is seflish to an extent. I even told her that too, but any relationship is a two-way street and right now it feels one way.

It is funny you mentioned testing me because when I told her I can't lie to my best friend. She laughed a ton about that. So that maybe one of her tests? lol

I agree on the bit about needing actual conversation to feel her out. It's just that we're extremely shy about doing that, even though we know that that's probably the best way to get to know someone really well.

I'm not sure why she laughed about you saying that you can't life to your best friend... but maybe her laughing is her way of seeing what kind of reaction you would give her if she did what she did, which is laughing. She was probably looking for you to reaffirm your point, saying something like, "It's true, I'm being serious." Virgo people look for morals and values in someone, so if you did tell her that you were being serious about saying that, that'd be a plus she'd see in you.

okay that makes sense. Cause when she opened up to me about some of her feelings. I talked to her about it and she was like you don't need to care about that. I said I can't help but care haha. So that was probably one of them then.

I've been interested in a guy for a few months now, and I asked to talk to him about some personal issues, as nervous as I was to ask. He's a very nice guy, and he agreed to listen to me and try to help me out. But once I asked, I felt even more terrified at the idea of talking to him about my worst fears (which is what I asked to talk to him about in the first place), and I kept asking myself, "Why did I just make the dumbest mistake of asking to have him listen to me whine about stuff that's way too private to me? That's not how people should go about getting to know each other, at least not at this stage of the acquaintance-ship thing." But then, I also said to myself, "I want to get to know him better, and I want him to see what kind of person I really am as opposed to how I carry myself in more exposed surroundings where other people are watching." But there was always this tension within myself about actually talking to the guy: I was a fascinated by how kind, intelligent, and calm/composed this guy was, that he scared me a little bit. He's also super hard to read. No one ever knows what he's thinking, and he's so good at fluidly conversing with people without saying anything about himself. So I was terrified of doing it; I was guessing that it would be a really bad idea to throw out all of this personal stuff about myself to him when we've never had a decent, substantial conversation about anything. That's probably why this girl is afraid of revealing too much about herself. She might be thinking it's too soon along the road to tell you anything sensitive to her, or she might be worried about what you would think of her if she told you anything personal. That might explain the hot/cold temperament she has towards you. This is all just based on my personal experience because I'm going through this kind of situation as well.

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Thanks for that. That actually sounds exactly like what is going on. I am a very calm person in public myself, and people often tell me they can't read me. So I completely get it. Infact I enjoy the fact people can't read me. I only let people I decide that are really worth it to read me. Funny thing is I am dying to hear that stuff haha. Because to me it shows how a person has grown through adversity and how strong they really are as a person.

I think I am so confusing because I am a Aries Sun, Gemini Rising and Aquarus moon. So I am a contradiction hahahaha,



I understand that fear. Even I have it myself at times. 🙂 If he is worth it, he will understand. Put some thought into the words you choose so it doesn't sound too dramatic as sometimes it can tbe aken out of context if it is a text form. If it is in person than you should be able to do that without much issue. :-) Go for it. If it's not meant to be than it's not meant to be. It will be his loss. You seem like a soft hearted person. :-)

Think of it this way. If he can't handle this... how can he handle a life time with you? Life will not always be perfect. That's assuming you want something life long haha.

I am dying to hear peoples emotions and troubles, because it shows if they can still function as a human that they have a strong character and can handle what life throws at them. So I personally want to hear that personal stuff from a person I am interested in, even a friend though I don't mind either because my friends are super close to me. Like a Brother or Sister.

I let them read me when I trust them. I will trust you more if you're willing to be vulnerable. It is a give and take though. Don't give too much of yourself all at once though either. If you did that to say me. I would appreciate it greatly and then be more open in return, and even give you some back if I had troubles. I will feel more comfortable being more of myself around you. It is not that I wouldn't be myself, but I will keep some things under lock and key. It is a defense position.

That makes sense and I can be very blunt when I am opening up to a person. If I open up that is also me letting my guard down a bit, but that doesn't mean I will make it easy for a person to read me either, because I am terrified of being manipulated. I think my biggest fear really though is ending up in a broken relationship. So I will do anything to make sure that doesn't happen. In a way it is useful to me but it can also be my worst enemy because people sometimes are not willing to give it a little more time for me to open up in the reading department.

Truth is though I don't trust most people. So if he does open up consider yourself very lucky. That is assuming of course he is anything at all like me. lol

To add on. He is likely being very simple and direct. If he says he wants to know. Then that is exactly what he means. He is very unlikely trying to trick you. Are you more afraid of him or afraid of scaring him away?

It is likely he understands real pain. the kind of pain that makes you want to kill yourself. So this is why. At least this is why I am the way I am, and I will always be that way. When your trust is completely destroyed by people that is something you can get over emotionally, but you will never open up to someone again without a lot of effort. Today I can stand tall and am happy. So that kind of adversity and general understanding of real true pain is something very special for a person who truly can feel it. The fact he can stand tall after that says everything. Of course I am making a lot of assumptions, but I recognize the behavior.

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Ahh, I see. I'm just afraid that I put myself out there too intensely and too soon. I'm a very emotionally-oriented person, so I'm hoping that this guy doesn't think that I'm too much to handle, lol. I have different mannerisms that I use with people dependent on my mood, what's going on with me or around me, and also who I'm talking to. Every time I see this guy, I'm so happy that he's within my sight, but I'm also super terrified, I do and don't want him to see me, I do and don't want him to talk to me, etc. It's a nightmare. People say that I'm very open about myself, which I am, but there are things that I keep to myself that are super, super private and sensitive to me, that I either talk to people about one-on-one or just think about on my own. I'm a very conflicted person, so it's difficult for me to socialize completely comfortably, even with my best friend. I also don't trust many people. I'm always on my guard, as you are, and I analyze and observe more than I speak or act. I'm aware of everything going on around me and I'm constantly analyzing what's going on and why it's happening (which is why I get headaches pretty often). It's a guard mechanism. I socialize with quite a few people, but I only open myself up completely to one person, and she's not even a family member. I see that we're very similar, lol. I absolutely hate manipulative people (which is why I'm only friends with one Scorpio, lol) and always need absolute control over myself or else I go crazy. Kind of like how I've been recently because this guy has been eating up my energy. I've gone slightly over the edge because I cannot for the life of me read this man, who does very much sound like you (maybe because both of you have Aqua moons?). This girl you're pursuing might be going through the same kind of mind whirl (again, just a guess). Save her some trouble and be consistent. 🙂 We find security in consistency.

I will be consistent hahaahah Thanks for that.

As for your problem. Do you have anxiety? because I see this as a common thing I "had" when I was completely introverted for about 12 years. I would get headaches all the time haha. I don't get them anymore. Haven't had one since the summer but that was because of getting too much sun. It';s been over a year. What I suggest is you meditate hahaha. I am suggesting the same thing that I suggested to her ironic. Anyway anything you can do to calm your mind so you can process more logically, but while this logical process seems to be correct when your mind is racing like this you actually lose focus on important aspects. So calming the mind will help. Also stepping outside your comfort zone will help. That doesn't need to be a life changing thing, but lets say someone invites you somewhere and you normally would stay home. Go instead. Put yourself into places where you would normally not want to be in. The more you do that the more easy it will be to deal with all of these things, and the less stressed out you will be. 🙂 I bet the headaches will go away. They did for me. 🙂

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To add on. He is likely being very simple and direct. If he says he wants to know. Then that is exactly what he means. He is very unlikely trying to trick you. Are you more afraid of him or afraid of scaring him away?

If he says he wants to know what, exactly?

I'm terrified out of my wits of scaring him away. I'm only intimidated by him in the more admiring sense because he's very kind, logical, intelligent, but also difficult to read.

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If he really is sincere he won't run away. If he does honestly you can do so much better than that.

He wants to know anything and everything, just decide what you want to give him right now. That can make you feel okay about it, but to be honest. I would focus on yourself and your mind right now, and calm them down first.

ironically you just opened up to a random stranger on the internet. You can do this hahahaha

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To add on. He is likely being very simple and direct. If he says he wants to know. Then that is exactly what he means. He is very unlikely trying to trick you. Are you more afraid of him or afraid of scaring him away?

If he says he wants to know what, exactly?

I'm terrified out of my wits of scaring him away. I'm only intimidated by him in the more admiring sense because he's very kind, logical, intelligent, but also difficult to read.

If he really is sincere he won't run away. If he does honestly you can do so much better than that.

He wants to know anything and everything, just decide what you want to give him right now. That can make you feel okay about it, but to be honest. I would focus on yourself and your mind right now, and calm them down first.

What makes you say that he wants to know anything about me? I can't get rid of the emotional impacts on my thought process. I'm usually super logical when it comes to analyzing things, but when it comes to my own issues, I just can't use my head. I go crazy thinking about all the different things things go and could go and then I get frustrated and break down, lol. I'm just super afraid of scaring him away because he's partially a crab. He's a Gemini-Cancer cusp.

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He asked, so give it to him. If a person asks for something and is too inconsiderate to get a response they can handle then why ask the question?

You build like a logical maze in your head, and if he says this, I will do this, and he will say that and then I will do this, and 17 steps later he will be where I don't want him to be right now (The worst possible thing you can think of) Part of this is paranoia, part of it is intuition. You have to trust yourself that you really are smart enough to figure out everything you need to figure out about him. Scaring him away is a little desperate because it is not important if he runs. Because if he runs he is a coward. You deserve better than a coward. I don't mean to call your love interest a coward my point is an example. So don't be scared of that because you ultimately deserve to have someone super awesome. Everyone does, and he really wants to know he should be prepared to handle what you tell him. Based on what you say about him he doesn't sound like a coward at all. So I think you may be surprised how he responds. That is my guess. 🙂

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I think she is being very polite and doesn't like you and there is not real intimacy between you.

I told her if she didn't want too, then just tell me. it is okay haha. She didn't do that. She instead said she wanted to go out. So why be polite when I am clearly asking for you to tell me no if it is no? haha I gave her plenty of chances to reject me, and she hasn't. I guess I will find out eventually.

Also I think that is the opposite of polite. polite would be to tell me to go take a hike so we can be friends, and that way I can move on, because I have clearly spelled out my intentions to her. So keeping me from doing that is just evil.

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To add on. He is likely being very simple and direct. If he says he wants to know. Then that is exactly what he means. He is very unlikely trying to trick you. Are you more afraid of him or afraid of scaring him away?

If he says he wants to know what, exactly?

I'm terrified out of my wits of scaring him away. I'm only intimidated by him in the more admiring sense because he's very kind, logical, intelligent, but also difficult to read.

If he really is sincere he won't run away. If he does honestly you can do so much better than that.

He wants to know anything and everything, just decide what you want to give him right now. That can make you feel okay about it, but to be honest. I would focus on yourself and your mind right now, and calm them down first.

What makes you say that he wants to know anything about me? I can't get rid of the emotional impacts on my thought process. I'm usually super logical when it comes to analyzing things, but when it comes to my own issues, I just can't use my head. I go crazy thinking about all the different things things go and could go and then I get frustrated and break down, lol. I'm just super afraid of scaring him away because he's partially a crab. He's a Gemini-Cancer cusp.

He asked, so give it to him. If a person asks for something and is too inconsiderate to get a response they can handle then why ask the question?

You build like a logical maze in your head, and if he says this, I will do this, and he will say that and then I will do this, and 17 steps later he will be where I don't want him to be right now (The worst possible thing you can think of) Part of this is paranoia, part of it is intuition. You have to trust yourself that you really are smart enough to figure out everything you need to figure out about him. Scaring him away is a little desperate because it is not important if he runs. Because if he runs he is a coward. You deserve better than a coward. I don't mean to call your love interest a coward my point is an example. So don't be scared of that because you ultimately deserve to have someone super awesome. Everyone does, and he really wants to know he should be prepared to handle what you tell him.

What did I say that he asked?

People keep telling me that the more they talk to him, the more he is willing to talk to him, and that it takes a lot of interactions with him to get him to open up. I'm just worried also because I feel like he isn't flirting at all anymore as opposed to a while ago when he was being quite obvious that he was interested in me.

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Oh I thought he asked you to tell him things about you? If he is not as flirty with you. Probably means he thinks you don't like him that much and is just moving on or is waiting for you to decide too.

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To add on. He is likely being very simple and direct. If he says he wants to know. Then that is exactly what he means. He is very unlikely trying to trick you. Are you more afraid of him or afraid of scaring him away?

If he says he wants to know what, exactly?

I'm terrified out of my wits of scaring him away. I'm only intimidated by him in the more admiring sense because he's very kind, logical, intelligent, but also difficult to read.

If he really is sincere he won't run away. If he does honestly you can do so much better than that.

He wants to know anything and everything, just decide what you want to give him right now. That can make you feel okay about it, but to be honest. I would focus on yourself and your mind right now, and calm them down first.

What makes you say that he wants to know anything about me? I can't get rid of the emotional impacts on my thought process. I'm usually super logical when it comes to analyzing things, but when it comes to my own issues, I just can't use my head. I go crazy thinking about all the different things things go and could go and then I get frustrated and break down, lol. I'm just super afraid of scaring him away because he's partially a crab. He's a Gemini-Cancer cusp.

He asked, so give it to him. If a person asks for something and is too inconsiderate to get a response they can handle then why ask the question?

You build like a logical maze in your head, and if he says this, I will do this, and he will say that and then I will do this, and 17 steps later he will be where I don't want him to be right now (The worst possible thing you can think of) Part of this is paranoia, part of it is intuition. You have to trust yourself that you really are smart enough to figure out everything you need to figure out about him. Scaring him away is a little desperate because it is not important if he runs. Because if he runs he is a coward. You deserve better than a coward. I don't mean to call your love interest a coward my point is an example. So don't be scared of that because you ultimately deserve to have someone super awesome. Everyone does, and he really wants to know he should be prepared to handle what you tell him.

What did I say that he asked?

People keep telling me that the more they talk to him, the more he is willing to talk to him, and that it takes a lot of interactions with him to get him to open up. I'm just worried also because I feel like he isn't flirting at all anymore as opposed to a while ago when he was being quite obvious that he was interested in me.

Oh I thought he asked you to tell him things about you? If he is not as flirty with you. Probably means he thinks you don't like him that much and is just moving on or is waiting for you to decide too.

Oh, no, haha, I just asked to talk to him about stuff that had been bothering me.

It might be easier for you to understand the situation if I sent you the link of the post I made on dxp?

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Sure I don't mind send it. 🙂

Okay so Gemini.... waving to random people on the street to make people feel uncomfortable is something they like doing just to see how you will react. My best friend is a Gemini haha. I actually have a lot of Gemini friends.

I think he likes you, but maybe you didn't really react the way he would expect so he kind of stopped pursuing you based on the fact he not flirting with you anymore. You said in your post you think of him as respectful. So maybe he didn't get a response from you that he wanted so he thinks your not interested and is respecting that. I think your only option is to make a move and make it really casual so it's not too intense for you if you think he is worth getting to know. Or to atl east indicate in someway to him that you like him. Have you tried doing that? Talk to him more. It is really all you can do. 😄

Or you could kick his chair... lol

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I don't know any Virgal that likes dudes that much older. They date around their age, or younger. You seem creepy.

That is because you're afraid of your own emotions don't put your lack of emotional intelligence onto someone else and call them that in person. You can totally fuck a person up by saying stupid shit like that. Lucky for me I am old enough to see through that stupidity. People that do shit like that create the exact guy that has no emotions but then the women expects them to love them, and then they want that guy that will treat them bad because they are afraid of their own ability to take advantage of them. So they need some guy that will always be calling them out on all the bullshit they do. Instead of doing all that mind game shit take time to figure yourself out. Just so you know women like this end up alone with 4 kids and bitter about all the guys that left them. So take time now to think about your own emotions.

Anyway I seen a picture of her ex he looked like he was 28 or 29. So I guess your wrong about that, but it doesn't matter anyway it's up to her. lol

And if you ever have said that to someone you should grow some balls and apologize to them. It could take them many years to get over that shit. You should be ashamed of yourself for that.

No one has ever called me that, but I have seen people suffer for years from stuff like that. Just own up to that, and forgive yourself though. My goal here is not to hurt you as a result of your lack of thought into your emotions, but be more careful in the future what you say to people. You will be suprised how much it can hurt someone.

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Virgo's need patience and they tend to work with how well you two are vibing with each other. Slow and steary wins the race. Consistency and acceptance of her rejections and cold feet might be the key. Could be her way of testing you by standing you up for 30 dates lol

This. Is. Me. To a T.

Could be your moon protecting your delicate Leo heart 🙂

I also have Mercury and Venus in Virgo. 😢

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hmm seems like he might just be too shy haha and your shy also which makes it hard. Take it slow and just keep nudging and maybe eventually he will bite.

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Virgo's need patience and they tend to work with how well you two are vibing with each other. Slow and steary wins the race. Consistency and acceptance of her rejections and cold feet might be the key. Could be her way of testing you by standing you up for 30 dates lol

This. Is. Me. To a T.

Could be your moon protecting your delicate Leo heart 🙂

I also have Mercury and Venus in Virgo. 😢

hmm seems like he might just be too shy haha and your shy also which makes it hard. Take it slow and just keep nudging and maybe eventually he will bite.

I'm trying. 😭 But I get terrified that I'd be too forward with him about liking him, which is why I give him sass. To hide myself. Typical Crab-dominant, smh.

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hahahaha your so funny. 🙂 Don't cry. It'll be alright. Isn't the point for him to know you like him? hahaha

I doubt it. He might be a little insecure. You're an attractive women, and you don't know each other well. So maybe he is surprised that you like him, but maybe he isn't sure, and he is afraid. Which could explain why he shut down. These are the kind of pairings I like to see though. 🙂 I am rooting for ya!

Posted by confusingconfused
I don't know any Virgal that likes dudes that much older. They date around their age, or younger. You seem creepy.

Quite a shallow comment to make. I've dated a man 10+ years my senior and our chemistry was off the charts. We connected on a mature level, but his personality presented a much youthful state at times. And not the type to be deemed as a 'tryhard' to fit in with my generation. His was genuine.

Posted by BarackObama
My advice, don't rush. Don't stagnate. Let things happen organically. Like our fresh farms in southern oregon.



-Barack

This is perfect advice. You're coming on a little too strong for her and rushing things along too fast. Slow it down... she's still analysing you and how she feels about you... but if you try to force it, she'll run. Don't disappear either because that'll just confuse her. I'd stop pushing for a date. Maybe start by a few phone calls here and there to allow her to comfortably get to know you. Then she'll be ready to go out with you. I think you just scared her a bit by being a little too intense at first.