Crossing to the third phase...?

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So, I read this book recently that talked about 3 phases that occur typically in dating relationship.
1. Lust or Attraction 2. Infatuation and 3. Love.

Apparently number 1 happens rather quickly for some who are more visual about things (me!) and then number 2 is that place where everything about the person seems almost perfect and you get all excited.

I have seen various virgos go through 1 and 2, although not outspokenly, but very few cross to number 3.

For the ones that have, how did you know once the infatuation wore down that this person was a keeper?

According to sources listed within the book, after phase 2 couples either break-up or stick together...and of course some do stay, but not for the right reasons.

I bring this up because I think I might be ending my relationship with my Libra boyfriend soon...sadly. He is a great guy, but after getting to know him a bit better I don't see much compatibility in the mental department and in our personality types. He is very attractive, but very reserved, not opinionated about anything, and extremely structured about silly things. Also, his thoughts are very inside the box, while I strive to think outside of it, I get fullfillment from discussions and I love life and seeing the world.

And honestly, I am doing this keeping him in mind since Valentine's is coming soon...why extend this longer and string him along now that I know such things right? But sometimes I wonder if I will ever find that right match for me...can you really find someone who is has depth, it's fun, very smart, funny, and attractive in your eyes...? Yikes, in the meantime, I think after this relationship I just will take time before I get into anything serious again. No definition for me for a while...and this is why I rather get to know people super well...it's just that phase 1 and 2 can trick you at times you know?

Happy New year everyone!

ADL
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p.s. I love singleness because it also allows you to plan freely any trips and any goals you have...and also gives you a chance to perhaps find more ways to serve others and take care of your own life since there is more time, why give time to things that don't feel/seem right anymore you know? Society pressures us to be with someone at times, but truly I rather be alone than with the wrong person for me. I feel more fullfilled alone and in a good place that with someone I can't love. However, if I'd meet someone who enjoys life as much as I do and yet teaches me new things and meets me in all areas I'd be willing to let go and let be. It is just a matter of embracing reality while still holding on to hope.
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elle - they said that in the third phase you accept of all of the two before, but also after seeing the not-so-pretty colors of the person you find that you still want to be with them...thus it becomes love, because it is not based in fantasy or passing things only, but also in who this real person might be, makes sense?

the book said the infatuation will eventually wear down...and so you start seeing with real eyes who this person is, then and only then, according to them you can really see if you are a real match and also if you are willing to go on because you realize that you can live with that...with all imperfection...because there is something else about them that has you hooked/connected that includes the reality of things, kinda like accepting the package with everything it has, including the imperfect parts.

i have not yet experience that, i have found people i fantasized over and thoughts they were it, but weren't...or have dated them, such as in this last case, but then found out that we aren't as compatible and since i am not the needy type and i'm okay being alone/single, i don't stay with people for companionship only, if i do stay...it is because i want to stay...and because i believe things are truly what they should be - the real thing.

seems like you have lots going on in your mind, feel free to share any parts you'd like if you feel comfortable.

adl
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69virgo - well, each phase is more like a next step in a continium, so it doesn't mean you can't feel 1 and 2 anymore at all, actually it will either stay or come and go, according to the authors BUT the difference is once you cross a new place (stage 3) then you see all the big picture and still want it. so you don't only desire them or see their great qualities, but also their dark places, their imperfections and YET you still want to be with them because something about them is different and you want to stay NOT out of fear but rather because you accept everything about them and are content and viceversa. not that everything is always great, but sort of 'better' than being alone...which is huge because that really means you found a reality (good and bad) that is better than other realities you had so far so you are willing to take a further look and bigger chance. 🙂

im glad to see that you are happy. sometimes i get tough with myself because i know we, virgos, can be complicated and so picky, but i honestly believe we just want something real or at least i do, and so i rather not have anything that have something that is not real. i want something real or nothing at all.

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omplete sense friend, one quick question, were you feeling comfortable to be yourself with her during the first months or did that just took lots of time?

also, i think most virgos value mental compatibility, did you find in her right away?


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69virgo - well, each phase is more like a next step in a continium, so it doesn't mean you can't feel 1 and 2 anymore at all, actually it will either stay or come and go, according to the authors BUT the difference is once you cross a new place (stage 3) then you see all the big picture and still want it. so you don't only desire them or see their great qualities, but also their dark places, their imperfections and YET you still want to be with them because something about them is different and you want to stay NOT out of fear but rather because you accept everything about them and are content and viceversa. not that everything is always great, but sort of 'better' than being alone...which is huge because that really means you found a reality (good and bad) that is better than other realities you had so far so you are willing to take a further look and bigger chance. 🙂

im glad to see that you are happy. sometimes i get tough with myself because i know we, virgos, can be complicated and so picky, but i honestly believe we just want something real or at least i do, and so i rather not have anything that have something that is not real. i want something real or nothing at all.



That's it exactly...to me in the beginning its like phase 1 and 2 are like a fog or big smoke cloud and when you get to phase 3 and everything is clear is that person still standing there with you..and if they are then ain't no more questions.. and there are more then just those 3 phases..you have exes.. family..friends..etc to get through...so its a lot more then that..so in away you two almost have to break each other down to build each other back up...and when i say that i don't mean change who you are as a person but you do have to bring some things to that relationship that will make the person your with feel like the most special person in the whole wide world..😉
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@lesprit...yes that's it...i was too comfortable around her in the beginning and we could talk on the phone for hours and not wanna hang up and that's when i started getting a lil scared because i wasn't a big phone person i was more face to face but with my wife i couldn't put the phone down....but i started feeling the love bug and that really hadn't happen either but i just went with the flow and just wanted too see where they would take me and 22 years later im still kissing her aqua booty..😛 no pon intended..lol



this is great 69virgo friend!

truth to be told, as i mentioned before, the people that have kept my mind entertained more often have been aquas, hence my quick connection for friendships with them. it's not like the have some awesome revelations or something (at least not the ones i know) BUT they have opinions and they can HAVE random thoughts about anything and everything and some of it its new to me...hence the mental entertainment/connection. in my experience, we have high potential to satisfy each other mentally, so i can see why yours kept you hooked 😉

the only reason why it hasn't always worked out with aquas long-term for me is because i need someone passionate as well. so if i met someone with the aquarian random mind/low dramatic ways, scorpio passionate/intense ways, aries mojo ways, sagi direct approach/adventurous ways, cancer/cappy down-to-earth/sweet ways in relationships, and virgo's depth and knowledge maybe i'd be hooked. 🙂 lol but for that, it seems, that i must search the world first and on the meantime keep on elaborating my own thoughts as i transforming myself. 😉
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Posted by LeGendary ViRGo


AmoureuxDeLespirit virgos value mental compatibility above all else we are ruled by mercury which is a mental planet and must connect with people on a mental plane first and virgos dont get tha name eternal balusters for nothing lmao.


read about our sign on a deeper level i will pm u some great websites.



good call legendary virgo and thank you for the offering!

i completely agree with the need for mental connection. i think i thought we just needed someone who likes to have converstions, but i think it goes beyond that...i think those conversations need to include either depth and/or refreshing things at least often enough, otherwise i get bored and/or easily distracted, if that makes any sense.

not that i know tons of things, because the more i know the less i know actually, BUT i am made in a way that i desire that mental interaction so whoever gets to me in all those important areas could potentially have me *revelation* but the trick is meeting me at all those places the way its needed, i think.

nonetheless i love learning from every situation and believe everyone has something beautiful to offer so i am geratful for every person i have encountered in my life.

question for you legendaryvirgo, if we need that mental stimulation, why is it that we follow after illusions at times? does our human world play trick on us sometimes? because if that wouldn't be the case we would all, knowing what we know, make more often the right choices right?

it's probably our human nature...you think?
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OR is it that we like to experiment and we are a very curious sign...so once in a while we encounter this safe opportunities to do so to unleash a bit, given certain qualities we see?

adl




virgos can be very curious like geminis we are both ruled by mercury and mercury was known to be very curious clever and tricky but those are gemini traits and virgo are know to be curious in a mental way like to analyze things and people to understand the inner workings of them.


hence our keyword I ANALYZE lol.

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hi, 69vir mentioned that 3 is like they all mess together like a fine woven sweater. Yes, but even the finest sweater is only as strong as its weakest stitch. I am a virgo, my precious ex s/o is a scorpio. We were together since 1999. I can definitly say that 3 was going on. I knew for a fact I wanted to be with her foreve, and like amoureux, I was and hate to admit it, still am madly infatuated, in lust, in love with the crazy butterflies and blushing cheeks. With my rose colored glasses on, I was totally under the pretense that she felt exactly the same way. I mean, she encouraged me to go back to school, dental school, and I did with earnest. A week into school, 10:30 at night when I get out of school, I am at our front door, holding a key that no longer fits, and starting to get faint, sick to my stomach, and going into a horrify state of shock
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hi, 69vir mentioned that 3 is like they all mess together like a fine woven sweater. Yes, but even the finest sweater is only as strong as its weakest stitch. I am a virgo, my precious ex s/o is a scorpio. We were together since 1999. I can definitly say that 3 was going on. I knew for a fact I wanted to be with her foreve, and like amoureux, I was and hate to admit it, still am madly infatuated, in lust, in love with the crazy butterflies and blushing cheeks. With my rose colored glasses on, I was totally under the pretense that she felt exactly the same way. I mean, she encouraged me to go back to school, dental school, and I did with earnest. A week into school, 10:30 at night when I get out of school, I am at our front door, holding a key that no longer fits, and starting to get faint, sick to my stomach, and going into a horrify state of shock



kemmie, after some evaluation about the scorpios, at least the ones i knew/know don't like to be left behind, but be rather the ones who have the last word hence the shocking surprises during break-ups and endings. they prepare for it for a while, but the setting of any ends its also in their minds. i learned that through personal experience and others' as well.

now, let it be. it sucks. i can only imaging, so as hard as it is for you as a virgo try to connect with your feelings as much as possible and let the emotions out in some way and then know that you will be okay. you got what it takes to move in whichever direction you want to go next, don't understimate your strength and don't look back right, unless it is to take something valuable/good from it.

i wish you the very best. break ups/losing people are always hard things, but we can use those time to gain something really valuable as well (even though right now it might not feel that way).

good wishes for you.
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@Amoureux..All i can really tell you is aquas are great at going toe to toe with anyone in conversations debates...any kind of sports..my wife knows it all that was one reason i was so intrigued with her...its like looking in the mirrow at someone that understand your mind and ain't afraid to challenge you...And the affection from as far back as i can remember was always hot and heavy and we were so young when we first started dating that we actually learned as we went along...and have you ever heard the saying..you teach people how to treat you,..i believe the same holds true for love...if you are a cold person and never let people into your heart and always have walls up then that's how people will treat you ...but never mind all that mombo jumbo..lol when true love comes your way it will knock you off your feet and ain't nothing you can do to fight it off...everybody just get hit at different times..some early some late but you will surely know when Cupid comes ah knocking..😉...ps aqua guys are some bone heads..lol..



man, the whole comment about being cold or putting walls sometimes, so good!

i don't mean to be an excuse and i don't know about other virgo girls, but it seems hard to not be always on-guard though for me, not externally but internally. you know what i mean?

like i check so much in everything. honestly 69virgo, women by nature tend to be more attention to detail and to analyze more so you can imaging how much more these facts apply to virgo women. if you think you guys got it bad with pickyness and analyzing, welcome to our world, it's tough!

however, logically speaking, something can be doable that will work. plus, it is also a fact that many virgo women out there have found love and once we are in we are in and i bet it's awesome.

thank you for the good wishes, words, and for the advice friend! *cheers* 🙂
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OR is it that we like to experiment and we are a very curious sign...so once in a while we encounter this safe opportunities to do so to unleash a bit, given certain qualities we see?

adl




virgos can be very curious like geminis we are both ruled by mercury and mercury was known to be very curious clever and tricky but those are gemini traits and virgo are know to be curious in a mental way like to analyze things and people to understand the inner workings of them.


hence our keyword I ANALYZE lol.

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yes the inner workings... so true.
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*sigh* whats a Virgal to do!



exactly!! 🙂

i wish we would have a pause button in our brains, seriously.

but you know what? in all honesty, if people can handle aquas and scorpios...for goodness sake someone should be able to handle our ways too...one day!! :p



Totes mcgotes! And the person who knows how to do that will be a very fortunate soul 🙂
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yes indeed my virgo buddy! you know what we got inside 😉

is this person in question of the 'stinger' type? 🙂
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It has been 2 years since that eyeopening day, I have long since graduated, healing like normal. I never tried to talk to her, see her, nothing. It was too painful. What surprized me was, it was about her 14 year old son dropping out of school and her getting back into drugs. Some uselss rag at her old job made it too easy to get back into cooking speed, and since I don't get into that or favor her son quitting school, I was blackballed. I am sorry to report that things have not gone well for them, but I stay in the background. I know that it's over, but I do pray for them. I gained an enormous amount of wisdom from the entire relationship, and can say I don't regret ever meeting her. She will always be "The One", and she knows...and I thank her for not trying to get in contact with me. I was sick over all that, and I needed to heal. I am good to go now, and I still wouldn't mind being with another awesome scorpio. A woman only. ahahahh
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...because if that is the case, take it easy. they are good at turning our emotions volume up, but we must approach with caution. 10-4? 😉



Lol! Omg.. What do you mean? I couldnt imagine myself being any worse lol! As awful as that sounds.. But it's because i dont like big displays of emotions.. They're like unwelcome little wrinkles in a blouse.

I mean.. Ive been really emo w/ the Leeb already.. Its his Scorp Venus that makes me go coocoo 😛
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Pandorabox - yeah I hear you about the little wrinkles on blouses, great analogy.

How funny that the last two people you've dealt with have been a scorpio and a libra as well. I might add my aqua man to my list though, ha, I'll meet him again one day, as a friend, once my current chapter gets resolved. I think I just want friends and fun for at least few months after this...

Well, yeah the scorpio guy will be on and off in communication with you until he feels like its the right time. Then he will out of the sudden come strongly. I think it depends on time and the things going on in their lives as well. I personally dated one, but have been connecting with them all my life at random times, it's weird. I didn't like any in particular as much thought until I met the one I dated. In my experience when you meet an scorpio that you like and its the right time...things get shaken a bit. and then a bit again. and then one more time. and then who knows. lol Hence my last words 😉 They are tricky and have a way to get through us, whereas they know it or not, but the power is a mutual, so it's a fun thing to watch.

As for the Libra, I gotcha. Well, you are like me, trying to always find the answer and do the right thing, you know...just take it day by day and see how you feel with him. Make sure you connect with him and that there is compatibility too, besides everything else. That was my last missed point, so you can learn from my lesson! Good luck with everything and let us know how things go! I'll be here.

As for me, I am ending things with the Libra guy tonight, it won't be easy because I don't like hurting people, but I will make it work in the best way possible so that he knows of my appreciation towards him and the openess I have to be friends in the future, but it will be up to him. I feel
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...okay with the decision though and since my connection with him in all areas went in sync with my thoughts (if you know what I mean) I have no regrets. I kept things simple and at the basic level, nothing intense, which is great given the current results. If anything, the cancellation of future plans, fun moments, and ocassional companionship will be missed, but other than that I think we are at a good time to make this transition be not-so-hard on us, so although I am unsure what exactly I will say, I know this is the right thing for me at this point and because of it will be the best thing for him as well.

It's been a great experience though.

I'll let you know how things go. Talk to you later girlie!
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Hey ADL,

What does the scales man's chart look like? If he has significant planets in earth or water, then maybe your compatibility would be stronger.



Hi VV!

I'm not sure what is his chart, but I have observed his personality and mind enough to know that this won't be a good match for me at this time.
It's a combination of many factors. He is a great guy though, he would be a better much with a more quiet and reserved kind of girl. His charming ways are nice, but I needed some mental connection. I tried at the beginning and because of his good qualities I tried to either oversee that OR manage that area myself for both of us by bringing subjests and conversations, but eventually I realized it was just me...so it wore me down. If I don't talk he never ever initiated any interesting conversations at all, he just responds and the one are where we connected (the one area he does know stuff of and responds about) has wore down a bit too...I just realized there aren't any other subjects besides that one that we can talk about (back and forth) and so I find myself looking for that connection somewhere else...and thus feel more excited to talk with my friends than with him at times and that isn't fair for him...or for neither one of us I guess.

Also, he is just so peculiar about things I really don't see as important, but above anything else is just that our views of the world and personalities are too different to establish a stronger bond, beyond friendship right now, at least for me.

How are you doing though?? 🙂 How is life??

Uh I'm nervous friend, I'll meet him soon, but I honestly think its time. Ah, wish me good luck and ttyl lady!
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Well, as far as me, it's done and done.

I had the talk last night. It wasn't easy, but I am pretty sure that it was the right thing to do...even throughout the conversation and at the end of it all I had a confirmation of such thing.

He has one of those passive-aggresive reactions...I know in the long run unnecessary angry emotions could have escalated and I can't deal with that, especially when it comes from things that just make us who we are...

He also had some trust issues that would trigger those angry moments (I saw glymses of it that were enough for me), that combined with our very different personalities and views of the world...it just all added up to making the decision that had to be made.

I respect him and wish him well though. At the end he wanted to shake hands, he was so guarded. I wished him well and give him a hug. Maybe we can be friends overtime...if he gets over his resentment eventually and if I stay patient enough. I am glad that I took that step, inspite of how ackward and hard it is so say thinsg...and inspite of that nice feeling of companionship relationships give, but yes...the real thing its worth the wait, I believe.


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Wow, good luck ADL.. I know exactly how you feel.. Funny thing is that alot of astrologers say that Leebs are far too shallow for us Virgos.. Or perhaps were not always on the same wavelength.. And Im afraid its true most times :/.

Man.. The thing is that now that I am ok with him not calling, treatin him as a friend, let him know Im hangin out w/ other guys... all of a sudden he's all over me.. its like a wierd game hes playing and its not fair at all.. So fine, Im takin it as a sign that he just enjoys my companionship and thats it.. And now that I know he lacks key things that I want and seein as though theyre the type to let others take the lead.. Im just not willing to lead our relationship into anything more. For my sake (i know what i want) and for his (i dont want to try to change him or ask for somethin hes not willing to give)

Man... 😛



Yeah I have one libra guy friend who is great...with him we do connect during our conversations, but sadly he believes in things that would be hard to deal with if we were to get closer, so I think there are libra guys/girls who can connect with us in converstions, but of course not everyone will...and probably not every virgo has seen this need
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and i can completely understand the 'games' thing.

That's why I always take a step back to watch and observe what's up, because I want to be with someone who likes me/loves me for who I am...and not just the idea I might represent. Because if these people fail to see who we truly are then what will happen once they win?? Would they stay or go after the next illusion??

That's why its important to get to know someone...how long have you know this guy?

It seems that you have to keep your options open or stay focusing on your passions...while you get to know him better and understand if what you are feeling for him is really just a big crush that eventually could fade or the real thing worth fighting/waiting for...and if it is the latter time will show you things...

Talk to you later,

- Your newly single friend ADL
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Hey ADL,

What does the scales man's chart look like? If he has significant planets in earth or water, then maybe your compatibility would be stronger.



Hi VV!

I'm not sure what is his chart, but I have observed his personality and mind enough to know that this won't be a good match for me at this time.
It's a combination of many factors. He is a great guy though, he would be a better much with a more quiet and reserved kind of girl. His charming ways are nice, but I needed some mental connection. I tried at the beginning and because of his good qualities I tried to either oversee that OR manage that area myself for both of us by bringing subjests and conversations, but eventually I realized it was just me...so it wore me down. If I don't talk he never ever initiated any interesting conversations at all, he just responds and the one are where we connected (the one area he does know stuff of and responds about) has wore down a bit too...I just realized there aren't any other subjects besides that one that we can talk about (back and forth) and so I find myself looking for that connection somewhere else...and thus feel more excited to talk with my friends than with him at times and that isn't fair for him...or for neither one of us I guess.

Also, he is just so peculiar about things I really don't see as important, but above anything else is just that our views of the world and personalities are too different to establish a stronger bond, beyond friendship right now, at least for me.

How are you doing though?? 🙂 How is life??

Uh I'm nervous friend, I'll meet him soon, but I honestly think its time. Ah, wish me good luck and ttyl lady!
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Hey there!

Oh so sorry to hear about the break-up. Well, at least you broke it off sooner than later. He honestly didn't sound like a good fit. How did he take it? How do you feel now that it's done?

Personally, I don't think a Libra and a Virgo have any business being together in the first place. LOL. I know, I know, I know, I didn't forget the whole bit about "you have to look at the person's entire chart" thing but, honestly, from the moment you 'introduced us to him', I knew he was a goner. That said, You need a real man girl! When you described him, seems like he is not quite yet th
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Continued...

the mature individual that you are and please don't think that I am saying that his maturity level has anything to do with his sign. Earth and air can work but, there's a reason why astrology says that generally we have better compatibility with our own or with water.


Btw, I'm doing well. Planning another trip hopefully for Winter of this year again. I want to go to Asia (Japan) this time around. Wish me luck.