How true is it?

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My heart hurts today as I see the beginnings of the latest interest in my life distance himself. I have wonderful relationships with family and lifelong friends as well as absolutely love my job. For some reason, that I just cannot explain, romantic relationships just don't work out for me. If I show emotion it doesn't work. If I hide emotion, it doesn't work. I have to believe that there is some explanation outside of effort and reason for it all.
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Read this:

http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/virgo.htm<BR>
"Once he's decided it's for real, however, he'll declare himself with touching simplicity. His love will burn with a steady flame, never fluctuating like the love of other Sun signs, and it will give warmth over the years with wonderful dependability. Is that so bad? The one quality of fairy tale romance about Virgo is that, if he's genuinely in love, he will wait for years to claim his true mate, or travel over a thousand mountains to bring her home to his hearth. He's capable of enormous sacrifice in the pursuit of that one dainty foot he's discovered will fit the glass slipper. There's no denying that the flame is strong, once it's been kindled. It's almost impossible to extinguish it. You'll be as eternally adored as Cinderella herself. The trick, I suppose, is in the ??original kindling. It's a rare foot that fits his glass slipper. Virgo is enormously particular."
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Posted by SingASong41
Posted by Damnata
Another Virgo with an Aries Moon 😄..increasing our ranks.

For Virgos I think it's more self undoing than anything else when it comes to love.



Right, I agree. But how? I know my main issue is I hold back way too much, probably because of my pride(?) or something along those lines
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I don't think it's pride, rather insecurity.

When I was younger and I met someone I liked I'd start building scenarios in my mind of how things would turn out..always for the worse. I used to dissect their behavior, their words til I no longer knew what was reality and what was my delusion.

Our minds are finely tuned for analysis but people should just be accepted as they are. To understand them, you need to experience them on all levels, rather than analyse their actions endlessly
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For Virgos I think it's more self undoing than anything else when it comes to love.



+1

Love comes in many nuanced forms and is all around us, if we choose to look. So, in that regard, I find love easily enough (or it finds me?).

It's the accepting it, believing it, and sustaining it parts where I seem to meet my Waterloo. For probably much the same reasons as Napoleon.
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The first paragraph reminded me of Love Actually, one of the few romantic comedies I enjoy.

"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often, it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know, none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around. "

Out of the 3, I always make the conscious choice to take a chance and I do my best to sustain it. It's believing in it where I get sidetracked...all these doubts come rushing through my mind. I try my best to let it flow and go with it from there.
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"You'll have to supply your Virgo child's emotional needs with signs of physical affection. He'll never show you how deeply he desires this kind of love, but the lack of it will strongly affect his future relationships. Even very pretty and very smart little girls-and very handsome, clever little boys have to be convinced they're interesting. It's hard for them to believe that their modest unassuming ways are as attractive as the more aggressive personalities of their friends. The Virgo ego can stand lots of encouragement without becoming excessive, so don't be stingy with bear hugs, kisses, sincere compliments and pats on the back. Your Virgo child needs large, daily doses of such emotional vitamins, along with his cod liver oil"
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Posted by Damnata
He's capable of enormous sacrifice in the pursuit of that one dainty foot he's discovered will fit the glass slipper. There's no denying that the flame is strong, once it's been kindled. It's almost impossible to extinguish it. You'll be as eternally adored as Cinderella herself. The trick, I suppose, is in the ??original kindling. It's a rare foot that fits his glass slipper.



^^^ Never to be confused with "settling".


There are a rare, precious few individuals in the world who are gifted with a kind of *sight*. The ability to see right past the emotional armor and the walls some of us surround ourselves with for protection. They're not necessarily guaranteed to be romantic interests per say, but after one gets used to their apparent bullshit allergy, their presence becomes invaluable and ultimately liberating. I think it's in those people with whom we can truly be ourselves without fear that we find that kind of connection.

Or maybe I'm just making crap up. Either way, my Venus says I'm screwed.

*shrug*
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I have plenty of platonic and familial love all around me. Romantic love...nope. I've been in several relationships, mostly short. Some leave me, I leave others. None have fit and been something that could be sustainable for both of us. Insecurity plays a part in that after some failures I began to feel like I was the problem so I attempted to change my behavior to give myself a better chance at success. But romantic relationships don't really work that way, it's about compatibility and mutual care. There is no formula, I realize that now.

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Settling is something that I just cannot do. I left a man that I loved earlier this year after discovering that he was doing many, many hurtful and scandalous things with so many other women. Like I mentioned in my earlier post, I stayed with him even though I knew deep down that he was no good because I didn't want to perpetuate my insecure behavior. Turned out that I should have trusted my intuition all along. Even loving someone to your core is not enough sometimes.

When I started dating my new guy I was determined to go into it with open eyes and open heart. I have done that but I see that he just isn't all that into me. It's ok that he probably doesn't find me to be a long term partner. He isn't doing anything wrong and I don't hold it against him. It's just how things are. I just wonder if romantic love is something I will ever receive.

Sorry. I've been pretty Emo lately 🙂
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and that's the fuking problem isn't it, that you assume there is somethin better, that you're settling...when the grass truly is never greener and whatever you're looking for is not external, but internal.



Or maybe the grass appears the greenest for the non-Virgo in the relationship and not necessarily the Virgo themselves.
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Chica pow! If you think you can do better then all means go right ahead.
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Posted by jjessa

Settling is something that I just cannot do.

..... I stayed with him even though I knew deep down that he was no good because I didn't want to perpetuate my insecure behavior.

Even loving someone to your core is not enough sometimes.

I just wonder if romantic love is something I will ever receive.





The first two quotes contradict each other .... to stay with a person you shouldn't is settling, and you clearly recognized you shouldn't have stayed.

You make the suggestion here that you loved a person to you core, even woe you for it, right? ..... yet, this person is one you recognized you shouldn't be with.

then you turn around to question why love isn't being brought to you ... seeming to be completely unaware that you, yourself, are treating love like you're a robot, merely going through motions, as if you read, "what is love" and then proceed to act them out.

You cannot love someone to your core, while at the same time realizing you stay with them out of guilt of not wanting to have bad behavior .... that is really very shallow.

Which makes this all seem like you haven't FELT love at all ... you've only "acted" out what you read.
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"I stayed with him even though I knew deep down that he was no good because I didn't want to perpetuate my insecure behavior."



I mean seriously here ... how can you say that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and act like poor little you who never seems to have anyone love her, when you are only with a person because you wanted to work on your behavior issues .. then in the next breath, say you loved to your core.

You get what you give .. and your giving superficial. doesn't surprise me one bit that alls you get back is what you give.
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P-Angel: I didn't stay with him out of guilt. I stayed with him because I loved and wanted him. I have a history of cut-and-run behavior when things get difficult in relationships. THAT is the insecure behavior I was trying to avoid. I stayed to try working out problems but that wasn't what he wanted. He wanted to sleep around and then come home to me. After more than a year of attempts at getting him to be faithful, I packed my bags and left. This is how I learned that I cannot settle for someone whom I love who does not show me the same love in return.

If you will read my previous post on this tread you will see that I admit that there is no formula. And I am very aware that I do not have things figured out. And I surely do not see how you, a stranger in my life, could possibly think that you have enough information to base a judgement about my behavior from a few paragraphs typed in an internet forum.

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After more than a year of attempts at getting him to be faithful, I packed my bags and left.







You are able to type that ^^^ out, and still not be able to grasp my point, even as you live it, so you know from personal experience.

You just don't know that that is an arrangement you've made, rather than feeling the love ... because you came here to express your woe because you try and try, but, it never finds you, so you're just the victim of giving your all, just to be taken for granted.

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My heart hurts today as I see the beginnings of the latest interest in my life distance himself.

For some reason, that I just cannot explain, romantic relationships just don't work out for me.

I have to believe that there is some explanation outside of effort and reason for it all.





The reason for it all, is what I'm telling you ... but, you're not listening and instead making excuses so that you're allowed to continue in believing it's nothing you are doing wrong.

If you weren't doing something wrong in securing this, then this thread wouldn't exist, because your feelings of being of love wouldn't exist.

When someone tells you what they observe, your come back is to say they don't know you who are .... which equates to ... don't tell you what you don't want to hear.

So, I'll say it again .. and let's see if your mind is capable of grasping it, or if you'll just come back with another ..... stop judging my asking you to be my sound judgment for me.


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I have a history of cut-and-run behavior when things get difficult in relationships. THAT is the insecure behavior I was trying to avoid. I stayed to try working out problems but that wasn't what he wanted. He wanted to sleep around and then come home to me. After more than a year of attempts at getting him to be faithful, I packed my bags and left. This is how I learned that I cannot settle for someone whom I love who does not show me the same love in return.

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You are so out of touch with what love feels like, that you have yourself believing that staying with a cheating man is proof. Like, this great sacrifice of yourself should be enough evidence.

dude .... you said ... "attempts at getting him to be faithful"

Love doesn't attempt to get him to be faithful to you, as in, you have to work it.

You don't get that. You think you were working it, trying to GET him to respect you, and in you staying with him for over a year, what you were really doing is ....

... proving to him that he is allowed to disrespect you by virtue of those very actions.

You don't get that ..... you really believe that your stay was love, proving love. When all it proved is that you'll take abuse and have no aware of it, even give it a love label.
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I have a history of cut-and-run behavior when things get difficult in relationships.






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He wanted to sleep around and then come home to me. After more than a year of attempts at getting him to be faithful

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You don't know the difference between those two ^^^^^^

You actually think that a difficult relationship and a cheating man is the same thing.

YOU are the one who made this distinction between the two .. not me. I'm merely running with it, acting how I feel = astounded that you're that fucking shallow in love, while calling it loving to your core.

You stay because you feel like you run away from relationships when they get difficult. So because of that, you make yourself stay with a cheater for a fucking year, and the depth of your love can't tell the difference between difficulty and infedility, so you lump it together ....

... to act.

To act like that's love.


Seriously ... wtf?