I finally get it.

Wow,wow,wow. I think I've finally met an evolved Virgo. After all this time, I finally get what youv'e all been saying. This man is soooooo open, talkative, we speak nine hours at a time, fiery and honest, and not afraid to challenge me at all. He is a third decan, and the complete opposite to the other two virgos Iv'e dealt with in the past, funnily enough, he has the same birth date as one of my exes as well 13th Sept, interesting. Looking forward to getting to know the nice type of Virgo. ;0)

3rd decans rule! *internet high-five*

Hmmmmm, I wonder who pointed out 3rd Decans are better suited to Scorpios!

Posted by Kali

I like my first decan and he likes me. But we are both first decans. My father was a 3rd decan, and he and I bumped heads quite frequently. I've not met a 3rd decan yet that I think would be better suited to me. I'm wondering if there wasn't something to what Dy had said one time, that same decans of different signs tend to be better suited?

You will learn...

say hello to the mercurial quick witted/fashinable/traiblazing third decan, enjoy

fashionable*, trailblazing

Posted by nyc125
say hello to the mercurial quick witted/fashinable/traiblazing third decan, enjoy

yea right in ur world lol.

when you meet me ^^^^^^^

Hey guys, thanx so much, I'm very excited. The thing I just don't understand is, how can two men born on the exact same day, be absolute complete opposites?

Posted by kitty69
Hey guys, thanx so much, I'm very excited. The thing I just don't understand is, how can two men born on the exact same day, be absolute complete opposites?

Upbringing, social climate, experiences, religion.

Posted by kitty69
Hey guys, thanx so much, I'm very excited. The thing I just don't understand is, how can two men born on the exact same day, be absolute complete opposites?

In a Astrological prospective natal chart could be one the differential.


Also what Cajun said. 😛

Sooooooooooooo, this new Virgo just asked me to be his girlfriend, two weeks after our first date.!!!!!!This is so fast. I"m somewhat shocked, and surprised, and perhaps slightly overwhelmed, phew......

Ohhh noooooo, we have not been intimate, Ive been up front and honest about that. I generally take my time with , one to two months as a rule.... ;0)

Posted by kitty69
Ohhh noooooo, we have not been intimate, Ive been up front and honest about that. I generally take my time with , one to two months as a rule.... ;0)

Why is that a rule?


If it is going to be true intimacy based off of truly feeling within the relationship and using sex as an expression of this feeling ... why do you have a rule on it?


Is it because sex is used as an expression rather than it being an actual expression?

You are a manipulator, this is obvious to me, and soon he will get this too .. probably why you can't seem to keep a Virgo.


Any/all women are who use sex ... and that is exactly what you are doing if you've already decided that sex will be used as a waiting tool to get him to become so entangled with you that he has no option except to fervently wait for what is withheld from him, which is no doubt withheld with a promise of it being of greatness.

Sex isnt' suppose to be used in such a fashion .. and there is no doubt in my mind that during this two month waiting period for you to torture him that you give him sneak previews to keep him baited.


women like you are disgusting to me ... sex isn't about using it to hook.

And true to form, my intentions are misconstrued by some, which doesn't warrant a reply. But to you Wgamador, it really is as simplistic as, morals and values. I dont ever feel the need to jump right in with someone, until feelings,emotions and trust come into play. There is definitely no with holding, or any ulterior motives involved. Just a genuine feeling of when it feels right....

Posted by kitty69
And true to form, my intentions are misconstrued by some, which doesn't warrant a reply. But to you Wgamador, it really is as simplistic as, morals and values. I dont ever feel the need to jump right in with someone, until feelings,emotions and trust come into play. There is definitely no with holding, or any ulterior motives involved. Just a genuine feeling of when it feels right....

You say this lie now, once your back was against the wall ... but the fact is, you said "rule", that it's a rule in place, which actually negates you now saying you go with what feels right.


You already lied ... you can't change that.

And secondly .. I already planted the seed !!!!

You have already decided to make him wait a month or two .... once he realizes that this was a decision made, rather than a real feeling of what is natural ... he'll bounce on you because Virgos don't roll that way.


They will roll that way if it's real .. but, in your case, it's a rule you have, so it's not giong with the flow .. it's actually a decision you made to use sex as an anticipation of getting it once you are satisified that he gives you enough to feel.


Seriously .... you set yourself up and I'd wager that you have no clue.

Posted by kitty69
Sooooooooooooo, this new Virgo just asked me to be his girlfriend, two weeks after our first date.!!!!!!This is so fast. I"m somewhat shocked, and surprised, and perhaps slightly overwhelmed, phew......

And also, I guess I have to tell you this, since it's obvious that you are awareness handicapped ... a Virgo doesn't move that fast, he would never ask a person who he wants to be his lady to be a girlfriend after two weeks and no sex ... he would however, tell a woman that who is making him wait for the goods, so that during that timeframe no other man will dip into it. He only told you that so that you won't fuck anyone else. I promise you, once he's finished dipping, he'll bounce.

I mean, I really just have to know that person inside and out and know that he is genuinely interested in being with me, for more than just one night. I like to be in a committed relationship with someone, before taking it to the next level.

And a question for you virgos out there, is it possible to have that instant connection with some one after two weeks, and would you be willing to make a commitment so soon?. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this. Cheers..

Is it possible for a man to make you think he's waiting for months to get in your knickers, while actually riding other chics in the meantime?

Posted by kitty69

... is it possible to have that instant connection with some one after two weeks, and would you be willing to make a commitment so soon?

lol, so it's all about commitment, so you can plan.

Again, you saying you go with what feels right was a lie.


You just want a commmitment. So, when you say you and him have conversations, do you tell him how desperate you are that you would only have commitment on your mind with all your interactions with him?

You're probably in the UK, where women are lower than men .. in that case, it's societies fault for letting men brow-beat women.

Maybe brow-beating is the wrong term ... maybe it's just you using your snatch for commitment gain and nothing to do with culture

@Kitty69: You did state in your op that you and him talked for long hours at a time. That in itself has brought you closer together than just 2 dates at a coffee shop (or wherever you went). So why can't he have fallen for you? There's never a guarantee, even if you don't have sex right away, that it will last with any man. Please just relax and enjoy you and him. (I know that it is hard).

I see both viewpoints here regarding the "proper" time for sex. I do believe in engaging it when it feels right, but I also believe a woman is entitled to her own morals and standards especially in regards to her own body. For instance, would you give it up on the first date? Most women would say no. Ask them why? You'll probably get various answers (along with an icy glare) all centered around them having "standards" and I fully accept that. This is only if she is after a relationship vs one night stand at a bar of course.

Two months sounds like quite awhile to me, only if the relationship is progressing slowly. If there is a definite mutual attraction then holding out for two months or more will sound like a "baiting" tactic to me and I will probably "bounce".

In the end I believe a woman's body IS hers to give of freely or hold onto however SHE wants, and noone else should influence her decision to give up the goods.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN

Two months sounds like quite awhile to me, only if the relationship is progressing slowly. If there is a definite mutual attraction then holding out for two months or more will sound like a "baiting" tactic to me and I will probably "bounce".

Question, when you say slow ... do you mean like this slow?

Posted by kitty69

... this new Virgo just asked me to be his girlfriend, two weeks after our first date.!!!!!!This is so fast.

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It is whatever speed is perceived. In the moment Kitty69 may feel as though it's moving fast as she may not be used to the speed this individual is working at. My wonderful lady and I had sex on the second date. We were so enamoured with eachother it just felt right.

And Elle brought up a good point I didn't even think about. What the hell happened to waiting until marriage? Is someone to be faulted as "using" or "baiting" their individual if that happens to be their committment?

My point about time was obvious .. did you miss that? Or am I missing it?

You spoke of taking the relationship slow, as sex waiting 2 months as normal for the timing of the said slow relationship ...... whereas she is saying that it's going so fast that just after two weeks, it's serious enough to be g/b friends.


So, my post was showing the relativity of time being in contridiction.


You say it's ok to withhold sex if the development of relationship moves slow, as an answer for her to ponder only if it moves slow ... while she talks of how fast it moves.



If a relationship moves that fast, then how can it be natural for sex to wait 2 months?

That can't be natural .... it has to a calcuation.

It's not an issue of hers, and she never expressed this ... I planted that seed.

she just wanted to know how 2 people born on the same day could be so opposite ... so, she really hasn't experienced this guy any deeper than that, if this is her question.


I know Virgos well, eventhough they hate that I do .. and I know that there is no Virgo male walking this planet who knows how they feel when it comes to partnering within two weeks.


Which makes me think this is a fabrication.

Posted by P-Angel
It's not an issue of hers, and she never expressed this ... I planted that seed.

she just wanted to know how 2 people born on the same day could be so opposite ... so, she really hasn't experienced this guy any deeper than that, if this is her question.


I know Virgos well, eventhough they hate that I do .. and I know that there is no Virgo male walking this planet who knows how they feel when it comes to partnering within two weeks.


Which makes me think this is a fabrication.

Please list all the Virgos you know very well. Take your time.

Also, I take it, your 'husband' is not one blessed to be on that list.

Posted by P-Angel
I know that there is no Virgo male walking this planet who knows how they feel when it comes to partnering within two weeks.


Which makes me think this is a fabrication.

I guess I am your walking contradiction then. I'm telling you, this woman I've met; sex on the second date, she told me she loves me within two weeks, meeting her parents very early on, spending Christmas day with her and her family, talk of moving in eventually, her meeting my son and falling in love with him

Her husband is a Virgo. That's what she's basing her 'I know this sign well' bullshit on. Fuck outta here. One personal experience does not contest to well known knowledge about the sign as a general whole.

P my "two month" analogy must've got lost in translation. If there is a mutual undeniable instant infatuation then sex early on is common and almost expected. Not saying the male expects it just saying that's PROBABLY going to be the outcome. If that attraction is supposedly there, yet she has set herself a two month rule then I would venture to say the relationship was in fact not so mutual from the get go; one-sided enamourment possibly with a touch of alterior motives and underhanded baiting.

On the other side of the paradime is her personal committments to morals and standards. She may in fact actually be waiting for the relationship to progress to that stage where it feels right. This is where my analogy of a "slow" relationship comes in. I can understand liking someone but not loving them immediately. Often one will draw it out to see if the attraction gets better with age like a wine. This is where I would feel two months is a long time for me to wait. But by that I mean for me to wait for her to decide if she likes me that much.

I would guess how long it takes for the male to get into her panties may in fact not be much of her decision, but how well the gentleman does early on. Any thoughts?

I think you're missing my point. I bring up the fact she has a Virgo husband because that is most likely her ONLY EXPERIENCE with a Virgo as far as an intimate relationship goes. You don't think she's tossing shit? I feel she is. 'Virgos don't roll that way. They'll bounce. They do this. They do that.' How does she really know? What is she basing this shit off on? As a Virgo myself, I can tell you anything she said in this thread does not apply to me. Which is why it fucking pisses me off when she refers to us as a whole.

A bullshit statement backed up with bullshit posts still concludes in bullshit.

'Virgos love boring. Virgos are predictable.'
There is no box and My bad, I wasn't under the impression I was trying to attract women who didn't like predictability.
Nice try though.

Anytime!

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Posted by RueLess
I think you're missing my point. I bring up the fact she has a Virgo husband because that is most likely her ONLY EXPERIENCE with a Virgo as far as an intimate relationship goes. You don't think she's tossing shit? I feel she is. 'Virgos don't roll that way. They'll bounce. They do this. They do that.' How does she really know? What is she basing this shit off on? As a Virgo myself, I can tell you anything she said in this thread does not apply to me. Which is why it fucking pisses me off when she refers to us as a whole.

A bullshit statement backed up with bullshit posts still concludes in bullshit.

'Virgos love boring. Virgos are predictable.'
There is no box and My bad, I wasn't under the impression I was trying to attract women who didn't like predictability.
Nice try though.

Hell yea, Virgo-five! *high-five*

Posted by ellessque
So, if you go with how you FEEL instead of what you have LEARNED to be proper....you will really be better off.

I SO needed to hear this!

Posted by P-Angel
If it is going to be true intimacy based off of truly feeling within the relationship and using sex as an expression of this feeling ...

Thanks P-Angel...great food for my mind.

I'm learning so much from you guys.

Posted by RueLess
Anytime!

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LOL!