Impending Economic Collapse

Believe it or not, your choice.

We can only hope everyone is aware of things to come.

That's fucking scary as shit

So, let's see if you can look further.

It is being said that this is common knowledge ... so, try to get past your ego that he said it, when you could have but didn't .... if it's true >>>>>>> then put a little effort into grasping the reality of the truth of it, and let the fact of why he used it as a publicity stunt to blow past you.


It's like you let the reality of the truth of it to blow past you ... so you can assify yourself over the messenger's motives


Ok, so now .... try real hard to turn that ^^^^^ around, and let the motive of the messenger blow past you >>>>> see the messege?


You agreed it's true.




seriously ... why do people have to be told to look at the message and not the messenger?

Yeah, that was stupid ... we all know that Elle cannot see past herself.


She can only think about how he said something she could have, and that was the motive for response.



Such as ego .. it's a wonder you make from room to room.

Of course ..... because to argue with the truth is too much for you to handle.

We all got that the moment you made your first post in here.


Not to worry, you aren't alone .... there are tons of people out there like you with deficient minds. And those people react the same way you do because they aren't capable of comprehending anything beyond their own prejudices. In this case, your prejudice is that he uses this for sensationism .... and your mind stopped right there.


There are millions of you out there ... I'm proud to be among the elite, who can look beyond that which offends me to see the truth.

Again, you are referring to the messenger ..... and cannot see the message.


Two whole posts talking about the way the message was transmitted ... and nothing about the message.


The facts that lie within the truth of the message .... people don't care about, and instead of trying to do anything about it, they'd rather point at the messenger indignantly.


Again ... there are millions of you out there who cannot comprehend anything beyond your own prejudices

This topic is about impending economic collapse ... and a person was used by the author of this thread to convey the message .. the thread isn't about the messenger he used.


But, that messenger is the only thing a deficient mind can understand and focus on .. and in defense against me saying it ... more posts come to prove me wrong, by commenting on the way the message came

Posted by YourSunshine
That's nice that you think that "I can't handle the truth". However, you're not really going to convince anybody that because your argument has no substance.

That's because I don't have an argument .... I said that's some scary shit. If you want facts to support that claim, then my breathing got a little faster, and my blood pressure probably went up, but, I can't verify the blood pressure ... only the change in my breathing.


Beyond that, I haven't even made any points pertaining to the subject matter to make an argument.

That flew over your head, I would presume.

Posted by ellessque

1000 years ago it was the same thing and they put it into a book and called it a Bible.

It's human nature. Figure out the unfigureable. Huge marketing potential. Sheep are mindless and puppets do what they are told.

Are you berating the Bible?

Yes, it is human nature. But the man's track record is proven.
Why do you try to take from the merit of his work?

As usual, there is an undeniable core of truth in all of this, however it's obvious that the sense of urgency that is stressed in the video is misused to cultivate fear, thus getting more and more people to buy a subscription.

Yawn, the world is going to end May 21 of this year, oh wait, it will be in 2012, hmmmmmm, nah it ended a few years ago when all those planets lined up, but we all just missed it for some reason.

We as a nation will indeed come to an end. It will not be predicted by somebody making these sort of claims. Total hogwash!!!!!

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
As usual, there is an undeniable core of truth in all of this, however it's obvious that the sense of urgency that is stressed in the video is misused to cultivate fear, thus getting more and more people to buy a subscription.

I agree along the lines of this. Fear tactics can be effective when used to incite a reaction out of others, but are not proven to be the more reliable method of persuasion.

For example, consider the Scared Straight Program.

Whats the Scared Straight Program dear Candeh? 😄

The Scared Straight Program basically takes at risk children who are already going down a wrong path and sending them to a prison to sort of "experience" what life would be like if they continued to steal, fight, ect. They encounter inmates who are already in prison for life sentences, ect.

Basically it's supposed to scare the shit out of them and keep them from committing more/future crimes. However, it has shown to either not change their behavior or has influenced more adverse behavior from them.

Posted by Candeh15
The Scared Straight Program basically takes at risk children who are already going down a wrong path and sending them to a prison to sort of "experience" what life would be like if they continued to steal, fight, ect. They encounter inmates who are already in prison for life sentences, ect.

Basically it's supposed to scare the shit out of them and keep them from committing more/future crimes. However, it has shown to either not change their behavior or has influenced more adverse behavior from them.

Im very surprised they only found out how flawed the concept was only after the results :S

^Party Pooper^ 😛

Posted by YourSunshine

No, P-Angel, don't try to reframe it. You were in fact starting an argument:

::: shakes head at stupid people :::


I don't argue with people. I make statements. You'll never find anywhere in this place where I argue with people.


Looks like you think in terms of arguing, though .... great job at being a douche bag.

You should have known, Cajun .... now you see why everyone hates this room.

Honestly, virgos make no sense half the time, even if we try to make sense out of everything. IRONY! 😛

Posted by P-Angel
You should have known, Cajun ....

Naturally I did, I don't fight it, no point in that.
I just do my part.

Posted by Candeh15

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
As usual, there is an undeniable core of truth in all of this, however it's obvious that the sense of urgency that is stressed in the video is misused to cultivate fear, thus getting more and more people to buy a subscription.

I agree along the lines of this. Fear tactics can be effective when used to incite a reaction out of others, but are not proven to be the more reliable method of persuasion.

Fear is the primary tool of the controlling class. Fear is the primary tool of dictators and other evil figures.
Fear is the tool that the US government used to force the bill that gave Wallstreet billions of your tax dollars so they can pay off themselves in bonuses.

Posted by ellessque
you could apply ^^^^^^^ that logic to all of these "messages" that grace our ears.

scare the masses to the point of controlled oppression.

it's harder now to control masses because of technology and the ability for people to move around freely.

click to expand

The Recession was just the beginning, this is it.

this presentation has to be the biggest load of tosh around. Is it releasing some sort of spyware while they get to the non existent point? I put it on for a few minutes before I realised they were not really saying anything. It must be an american thing to love to worry about looming disasters.

Posted by Cajunspirit


The Recession was just the beginning, this is it.

the end of the World is nigh?

....what I found most offensive about the "offensive message" was the way the guy at the beginning says "contra ver see all"

Posted by ellessque

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo
It must be an american thing to love to worry about looming disasters.

...and we have a winner. 🙂

click to expand

no, I'm more of a whiner 😉

Posted by ellessque

Posted by Cajunspirit

The Recession was just the beginning, this is it.

what exactly is "IT"?

really?

seriously, I want to know.

Screw the recession that wasn't a recession at all. It was a restructure of resources. Nothing more. It's happened before and it will happen again. You just have to be flexible and roll with the punches....or you can hoard bottled water and build a bunker. Either way, doesn't matter much to me because if I don't get this like right, I'm most definately going to have to come back and repeat this shit all over again.

Take care of you and those around you and you will forever be golden. If everyone followed THAT message we wouldn't have the half the crap going on in the world we have today.

click to expand

800 billion is given away to the same corporate people who put you in an economic behind. Billions more go missing. Recessions are restructuring events, yes. Restructuring against your favour.

It is the time when your choices now, will affect how much you suffer later.

Yes, your message is sound, but that is not the reality we live in.
You can either prepare, or fall victim to the circumstance that will be forced unto all of us.

Posted by ellessque
....or I can just leave and call it a day. 😛 I hear Paris is nice in springtime and there is land in Kenya that hasn't even seen a vehicle...ever!

nobody is forcing us to stay.

As it said in the video, a large portion of the world uses the US dollar as their reserve currency. Only those that have taken action to remove it [Russia, China, Japan and a few others] will be safe.

The European Union is subject to fall as well. Look at Portugal and Ireland, debts beyond belief. Only Germany looks promising with growth. Their united dollar too, shall suffer.

materialism, in all honesty, is silliness anyway. the whole world is laughing at our vain, materialistic, shallow asses....as they certainly have good reason to.

click to expand

Yes, but the weaker willed have had it forced upon them. Capitalism and Corporate greed have indoctrinated us all into materialism. Using our innate "emptiness" and tricking us into thinking that we can buy our happiness.

Posted by ellessque
We create imaginary enemies that way.

Mayans, Indians, British, French, Blacks, Nazis, Communists, Vietnamese, Terrorists, Democrats, Republicans, Muslims.

Fabricated enemies, born of well coordinated stereotypes and bought out people.

I can't fast forward to where I left off...

I have to rehear the whole thing! 😢

Its more true than you think. The american economy is not invincible.

Posted by red_aries
Its more true than you think. The american economy is not invincible.

America, like Sony is just arrogant.

Agreed ^^^


And most Americans are just like the man in the video said ... clueless about it.

Sorry, Bling .. she just pisses me off.


What happens next is that China will own the US

The world currency will be the Yuan


As of now, when countries trade .. they use the dollar ... so as long as we can keep the dollar stronger, we can profit from these trades. Even trades that don't even involve the US, they trade in Dollars .. this is how we stay rich.

But, once the dollar ceases as world currency, we have nothing to gain .. we have no resources to export ... we will become broke virtually the moment the world currency changes.


This isn't a scare tactic .. this is reality.


Fact: we print money without the gold ... and China bought our bonds to bail us out

I guess the solution is exactly what the man in the video said = change the standard of life.

Dont' take up all the resources we do have .. don't use up all the commodities.

Stop funding the world



Doesn't matter though .... because soon the government is going to do what all countries in our situation does ... they are going to nationalize businesses, and it doesn't work. Look at Greece and Ireland, with Spain and Portugal quickly following.

One World Order

We probably won't have a choice ..... we will have to make this happen.

Actually, I just hid all that because I'm not even going to deal with you.

You failed to teach your son self-accountibility, and then act like it's his fault .... and this is how it looks like you deal with everything.


I just have no use for people like that.


One day you might actually have the balls to take responsibility, even to this day, you blame your mother for your life problems, like a child.


I just don't deal with people like that ... finished.

Posted by ellessque

That is why we must be extremely strategic. When Obama first took office he wanted to close all the tax loops the large corporations had with China. Did you know that large corporations who buy from china get a 13% tax credit on all procurement? Yeah, that sucks rocks. We can't compete with that as manufacturers. That is manufacturing took quite a hit.

However....something happened and he stopped in his tracks. It became a moot issue and hasn't been spoken to since.

I'm hoping we went back to the drawing board quietly.

Obama is a puppet leader. There has been no honest president since Kennedy.

Everything Obama said he would do, was against Bush's practices.
Yet when he was installed into place, he continues Bush's trends without fail. It's all a charade.

BilderBurg Group run things.

Posted by Cajunspirit

As it said in the video, a large portion of the world uses the US dollar as their reserve currency. Only those that have taken action to remove it [Russia, China, Japan and a few others] will be safe.

The European Union is subject to fall as well. Look at Portugal and Ireland, debts beyond belief. Only Germany looks promising with growth. Their united dollar too, shall suffer.

Eurozone is showing renewed signs of growth. Not just Germany, but France. Of the "PIGS" Greece has shown signs of growth in the first quarter. Germany's strength is in part due to not having a credit crunch. Germany's strong economy is likely to lead to pressure for it to invest more in the "PIGS". The economic downturn probably had the effect of giving the EU a good kick up the backside and helped it get its house in order, having been inefficient and complacent for too many years.

US activity is apparently showing strong activity back above the pre-crisis peak. Given the number of American tourists in London some people are clearly still raking it in. Having a weaker currency is not such a bad thing. The main difficulty US global businesses would have to deal with would be exchange rate risk. However, there is absolutely no reason why US multinationals cannot continue to dictate their own terms on functional currency, providing they remain competitive. There are certainly enough expertise, resources and raw materials in the US to bring it back up to its prior status.

I see the biggest problem in the future to be the energy crisis. People seem to be worrying about everything else, but have their heads in the sand about this. But as far as the global economny goes you cannot predict what will happen long term, there are too many variables. It's like predicting the weather - guestimation.

Posted by Cajunspirit



There has been no honest president since Kennedy.

@*!!?✨@!

Posted by ellessque
The real meat and potatoes are the senate, congress, state and local officials. But they know we don't know anything about that and it's played to their advantage to the fullest.

Even they are not immune...

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo

US activity is apparently showing strong activity back above the pre-crisis peak. Given the number of American tourists in London some people are clearly still raking it in. Having a weaker currency is not such a bad thing. The main difficulty US global businesses would have to deal with would be exchange rate risk. However, there is absolutely no reason why US multinationals cannot continue to dictate their own terms on functional currency, providing they remain competitive. There are certainly enough expertise, resources and raw materials in the US to bring it back up to its prior status.

This was never in debate.
The fact remains that greed rules those in power and those idiots in Wallstreet continue to sell out your country's wealth to china.

1.3 Trillion US dollars in debt, watch the WHOLE video, please I implore.

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo

@*!!?✨@!

A believer in Reaganomics huh?

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo

@*!!?✨@!

A believer in Reaganomics huh?

click to expand

You've misunderstood. I simply don't see Kennedy as a saint.

Posted by Cajunspirit


This was never in debate.
The fact remains that greed rules those in power and those idiots in Wallstreet continue to sell out your country's wealth to china.

1.3 Trillion US dollars in debt, watch the WHOLE video, please I implore.

I am listening to it and it's a never ending diatribe and highly inaccurate at that. Mixes up the Euro with the German currency. Compares Americans today to Jews just before the holocaust. The guy has no shame.

The part when this guy talks about the UK and says that devaluation of the currency in 1967 led to a decade of electricity cuts and flicks to a picture of rubbish on the streets just made me laugh. They are totally unconnected.

He has completely misrepresented what actually happened in the UK. Part of the problems in the UK were down to the government fiddling with wage legislation which created worker unrest and led to a culture of strikes. However, the main cause of the UK's economic woes in the 70s were down to 2 policies of the US. Firstly the "nixon shock" where the bretton woods gold linked system fell apart and the impact this had on Sterling, secondly the oil crisis, initially in 73, which was linked to an OPEC oil embargo due to US policy in Israel. This led to a huge jump in inflation in the UK leading to years of strikes. This was combined with a very strong union culture. The electricity was cut off due to constant strikes by coal miners for higher wages. He completely glosses over the facts. The British empire fell over due to WWII debts.

Bretton woods ended because of the costs to the US of vietnam. The facts are clear, paying for war has a major detrimental effect on economies of nations.

I still haven't finished listening, but I'm waiting for him to say you should buy silver bars and put them under your bed. Hah he has just said to buy silver!

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo

You've misunderstood. I simply don't see Kennedy as a saint.

And you misunderstand. I never said he was a saint, but he was a lot better than those that came after....

IMO buying gold now is a bad idea as prices are through the roof. Silver is likely to follow as it has been highly desirable since gold has been rising.

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by cappy~go~luckytoo

You've misunderstood. I simply don't see Kennedy as a saint.

And you misunderstand. I never said he was a saint, but he was a lot better than those that came after....

click to expand

no - he wasn't any better. It's a common misconception based on his cult status.

I think he is about to tell people about futures contracts... at least that's how it sounds.

lol @ the secret.... that was a book about thinking yourself lucky.

The one asset you can own, widely available in America.... a tin foil hat! 😄