insite please on break up/crack up

hi guys,
been a while since i have been here. i figured it best if i just stopped spilling my virguy/virgirl drama on ya all. now though i do need some insite, and maybe just to make me feel better...no suprize, i deleted my other posts though, they were soooo embarasing.

after off/on back and forth since december, we take vaca from work together end june/july, with the intention of travel. vaca comes and he wont budge, schedulled work to be done in his house. i expressed my disapointment, i was looking forward to "building memories" and experiencing one another in a different light. still, it was a no go.

by friday july 4, i was so frustrated, when we were invited to a party, i attended alone. virguy chose to stay home. i let him know that i would be spending the night at the party.
saturday a.m., he lets me in, we go to sleep. 10a.m., he kisses me, says "i love you", a few minutes later tells me to leave and "dont come back!" i later find out, begining that day, he started seeing old g/f again.

after two weeks of no contact, he shows up at my house, like nothing happened, asks me to dinner. i ask if he had been sexual with old g/f. "no", OK. we spend a glorious week together, and go to the shore for a weekend with his family. by bedtime saturday, he asks if i would mind cutting the beach trip short? "yes i would mind". after a run in w/his sister, sunday a.m. we really do go home. At home we have good talk and disclosure about our childhoods,etc. UNTIL i ask one too many detail, another flip out "get out!"

he secretly sees g/f all week (BTW, i figured this out, we are neighbors)she is leaving her car somewhere, and arriving with other friends. i stopped by on thursday to pick up the last of my stuff, he angrily cusses me at the door, pulls me in to the house, physiacally restrains me, spits in my face, i cant get away. drags me through the house, throws me out the back door. breaks his own glasses, and in a loud voice "dont ever force your way into my house and assult me again. i am calling the police now". which he did. resulting in the police arresting him, because after hearing both sides, (me: 5ft, 100lb, He:6ft,200lb) the truth is evident.

somebody tell me what the heck got into this man...and how the heck this could possibly be virgo behaviour! thanks

Unbelievable!!!

I know some virgos have tendancy to get EXTREMELY angry occasionaly, when they do get angry they can be OUT OF THEIR OWN CONTROL!

I know atleast one ex-virgo co-worker - he had at work threw things on other guy during a meeting! Needless to mention, he was fired later.

This is shocking, if I were you, I would not waste even a second to think about this jerk!
At this point, all you need to care and worry about is yourself, as I think for you, it can make harder to meet any other decent guy or trust him.

I know virgos here have been ex-amplifying their "great qualities" but being with so many of them, I know they are not perfect, if fact , after a while you realize most of them are not better than us. They have motive for every thing they do, and some smart people can figure that out before they get hurt by these type of Vs. Not all are bad, but all are not perfect or better than others! Most have superiority complex and I totally IGNORE those "God Complex" people!

Consider yourself lucky, you are out! Stay away from him as far as you can, who knows people like him can physically hurt others...

What is your sun sign?

hiya,

i am a virgo sun and moon, aries rising,/ he is a virgo sun, cancer moon.
the state placed a no contact order on his part. the state pressed the charges, as at the time i refused to, i just want out. not to miss time at work with a court case and be the victim of his exsessive DRAMA! all these 2 years he told me i was the drama queen.LOL

should i be scared? he does not really scare me. actually, he never did get a clue as to how strong i actually am. he says i am just too stupid to be afraid.

capri, you are right, i dont want to trust any more. this was the first guy in years, 20 years, that i was 100% sure wouldnt cheat!~ my mom tried to take my hand in comfort the other day, and i withdrew. i didnt even want my mom to touch me.

bye
will check in from the public library over the weekend
pan

"At home we have good talk and disclosure about our childhoods"


How odd is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You set the tone in this thread to suggest to the readers, in which the readers are indeed led to believe .... that this is an actual close relationship in which you two are so close to each other that you would take vacations together, go on holiday to beach with family.


You know, just because you deleted your other posts, doesn't mean that some people cannot remember ... I remember.

Food for thought for you ..... some people (like me) can read between the lines. And when they lines suggest, "planned vacation together", then action clearly shows that no vacation was actually planned on his part to spend with you ..... is a clear indication of delusion.


Why would two people who haven't even had a deep talk (see quoted sentence above) .... plan vacation together? They wouldn't.

For two people who haven't had deep conversations about themselves don't even really know each other, yet, and would NOT plan family holidays. That doesn't even make sense.

When you talked about you and him having this talk, it came after you had a conversatin with his sister, and the implication was made that he must have "something" in his past, in which led to a falling out with his sister, and family time at shore was cut short because of it.

If a man had "something" to hide that was that disturbing, then he would NOT set the stage for his girlfriend and sister to have the opportunity to discuss this issue.

None of this makes any sense. Don't piss on our shoes and tell us it's raining.

PA,

I have never seen any one as manipulative as you are.
Most of the time, you turn any talk up side down! I think you are NOT stable in your thoughts or actions!

The way you change the tone of every single matter is radiculous. The way you represent your opinions without considering the context of the matter shows the way YOU must be operating for any thing in your life.

Food for thought for you ..... some people (like me) can read between the lines.
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HAHAHA I find this really funny.
You are an average person without outstanding intelligence and YOU HAVE PROVED IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!

HAHAHAHA

caprigirlwithvirgo 8/15/2008 3:52:03 PM | ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

I know virgos here have been ex-amplifying their "great qualities" but being with so many of them, I know they are not perfect, if fact , after a while you realize most of them are not better than us. They have motive for every thing they do, and some smart people can figure that out

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"after a while you realize most of them are not better than us."


Really?

How long after awhile did you come to the conclusion that just because they diefy themselves with great qualities .. that in reality, they are no better than us?

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"some smart people can figure that out"


Are you one of those smart people who could figure it out?

How long after "awhile" was it that this epiphony came to you that no person is better than another?

HAHAHAHAHA

Here we go AGAIN!!
Endless useless BS.... As always, one more attemt to divert the original theme of the thread by .......


"Some people" NEVER change!!
I will not waste my energy..
HAHAHAHA

Let me break this down for you, Capgirl, since it has escaped you ... and since it has escaped you, you have no other recourse except defy that which is incomprehensible to you ....

"we take vaca from work together end june/july, with the intention of travel. vaca comes and he wont budge, schedulled work to be done in his house."

1. she believes that vacation together has been planned for June/July with the intention of travel.

2. during this time, he actually scheduled work to be done on his house.

Add 1 & 2 together: If he had any intentions at all, of going on vacation with her, do you think he would have scheduled work to be done on his house.

3. he won't budge

Now add #3 to 1 & 2 ... vacation time is here, and he is busy, so the only way to get him to budge would be by pressuring him/convincing him to be with her.

Summary: Her dream of vacation with him to travel was a delusion, for he had no intention of doing this with her, and her conning him into it fell on deaf ears = he's NOT into her as she thinks he is, for if he was then #1 would have taken place.

Do you need me to break it down on simplier terms for you?

thanks for the replys: capri, strings, scorp.
and p, ...NOT.

pangel, pleeeze.
number ONE: cant you tell i am in enough pain?
and TWO: dont talk about what you dont know!

1. and disclosure about our childhoods"
How odd is that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- this is not the first time we have has such discussions. i had heard some of these reveilations before, he was giving additional details.
- however, he is extreamly private about his past. he likes to be judged on who and what he currently is; not how he got that way. as a matter of fact, when meeting friends or family of one another, he offers the same respect. not wanting to hear my colored view of someone, and allowing me to judge his friends without any preconcieved notions.
- disclosure was mentioned here, by me, to indicate that lines of communication were open.

2. so close to each other that you would take vacations together
- i dont know what kind of friend you are, but i think it's pretty normal to go places out of town together. even with a friend of a friend, camping or boating, jeeping. common interest is the bond.
anyway, it was his idea originally to schedulle together, back in february. obviously, there had to be some discussion of which week to take. this would not have happened if we both had not agreed to it.

3. beach with family.
- again U R WRONG here. we knew family from out of town was coming some time ago. a condo was booked for them along with his local mom and sis. he invited me early on, assuring me there was adiquite bed space.

4. you two are so close to each other
- jeez, does this even warrant a response? people do not have to be soulmates, mushy lovey dovey in love to vacation together... even with family.
i do believe that you mis-interpreted my "tone", i did not attempt to leed anyone anywhere. i thought i made the "tone" of the relationship clear with the phrase "after off/on back and forth since december".

5. just because you deleted your other posts
- OK OK, it was DRAMA, pure and simple! and here it comes...Virguy knows i pretty much use the same screen name everywhere. i was concerned that if he ever "googled" it he would see me out there spilling my guts on the world wide web. i came to dxp to learn more about my relationship and the persons involved in it, looking for help.

cont.

6. ...I remember/Food for thought/read between the lines.
(and capri girl, thanks for reminding p of her manifest manipulations.)
- hey thanks, glad you remember me too!
OK are you saying i am "delusional"?

may be i am, may be i am not delusional.
i surly didnt see this coming.
no, i do not mean the damn vaca thing...
i do not mean that it now feels like i was a live in maid, gormet cook, booty call...
i do not meat that i didnt know he has been in contact with the old g/f the 2 plus years we have been together, and eventually went back to her...

i want to know why go through this elaborite hoax, in an attempt to frame me, to tell the police i attacked him. i do believe in an effort to have a no contact issued upon me, rather that against him, as it now is, 'cause he was the aggressor.

see, i know vguys too. i know this guy does not make a move that is not planned...way plaNNED, the vguy go into his cave and think kind of planning. so i know this was planned, i know he invited me over to his place several times over the past few weeks, prior to this insident, and came to the door and sent me away.


nope
i came here to find out, how and why the ALMIGHTY VIRGO MALE, mr. logic, mr. i dont lie, i dont cheat; would DREAK THE FUCK OUT like this! wouldnt a "i've decided to be with So and So now", and state the reason, have been the Vman way?

hope i didnt loose my train of thought at the end there, hurry out to lunch.

thanks for any replies,

pan

i did loose me train of thought..doritos mmmm

meant to add:

after you had a conversatin with his sister,
- no pee
he had an all out argument with his sister that morning. he took his car to a municipal lot, cause we only had 2 spots reserved at the condo. his sister ended up there with him as he dealt with the frustration of getting a daily parking permit in a little beach town, on sunday morning. his sister chided for the abuse he gave this civil servant. (and he did abuse her, he told me so). he replied to sis in such gruff manner, as to have her put him out of her car. when he got back to me at the condo, he said pack. dont tell anyone that we are leaving.

and the implication was made that he must have "something" in his past, in which led to a falling out with his sister, and family time at shore was cut short because of it.

- clever girl...as a matter of fact, this sister, the sister who he hit with a wrench in her sleep as a child. this sister is according to him the center of disfunctional onion that is his family. this sister was the topic of childhood disclosure we were opening as i asked too many questions, and was told to leave.

bye,
pan

Sounds like a drama breeding ground where you walk.

yes virgotime, your question is a very good place for me start a journey. let me get back to the good ol' Law Of Attraction.

prayers are answered, just not always the way we hoped. (she grins) thanks scorpie canadienne, for bringing up the "should i break up with him" thread.

(smiles,) feeling almost like my old self again today. the spring is back in my step, 'stead of treading on eggshells. my arian ascendant is arisen! (amused by her own alliterative attempt.)


pan