Leo Woman needs MAJOR help with Virgo male!

LOL @ CluelessCancer - that's exactly what he said "he doesn't know what he wants" yet somehow he's back here but not 100% ? Waste of time maybe?

@ CluelessCancer LOL I wish that were the case but I don't know yet! We'll see where we go with that particular route. I feel you completely - I don't want to be on this cold/hot limbo forever. I'm OVER it!

Ok, I read everything.

I think both of you got in this whirlwind romance and built a fantasy doomed for failure. It was all too passionate, too soon, not grounded at all.

I think he woke up from that shortly after and he doesn't know how to make it clear to you - he's no longer into you but he feels guilty because you moved for him. That's why he's ambiguous.

I would drop him. The longer you prolong this, the longer you'll get hurt.

Posted by VivaciousLeo917
CONTINUE😱

is just too prideful to say he messed up. Right now? I'm taking it slow, not bring up the subject about the happend and just see where it takes us. I know he texts/talks to other women but I know he hasn't exactly acted on any of them. He has opened up to me through out our relationships about his inner deamons and I know that's huge for a Virgo. He knows I know him well and I know what he's like sincerely. Now - with that being said. I don't know what to think of all of this? He mentioned to me that his mom asked him whats up with us and that he actually said "hmm I don't know? LOL" He said he doesn't want to start saying too much yet. In my head that tells me he's actually trying and I can see he's trying. We have a great connection and a friendship most of all which is what brought us together to begin with. He doesn't kiss me as he did before, more of like a side kiss and doesn't say I love you but I mean he's reaching out but then again... Who knows for how long. WHAT SHUOLD I DO?!

After what this guy put you through (NOT INCLUDING THE PREGNANCY), you are asking us what you should do? Are you kidding me? Get a grip lady. Get YOUR life in order without him in it. Only then should you consider setting yourself up for another downfall. It's YOUR turn to do for YOU. You've done enough for and with him. You moved 3000 miles and opened your heart. Make him earn his way back in but not until you are comfortable there and completely secure being by yourself. This way if you do choose to start something up with him again and he runs, you will have the strength to know you're ok without him. Righ now you're not.

This is just speculation...
I could be wrong...

He fell for you-FAST!
It fizzled out.
He realized it was physical chemistry but not genuine love.
He decided to cut ties.
You became pregnant.
He didn't want a child.
He was nice & attentive to you again...as if securing a decision to proceed with the procedure...alleviating himself of any real responsibility.
The procedure is done.
He now begins to distance himself...the kind gestures are no longer needed.
Now he feels guilty.
So he's presenting mixed signals.
Coming around, probing, but not committing.

I'm sure the Virgos will come on board to offer you a better perspective.

Posted by VivaciousLeo917
While I was pregnant (3 week span) He starts to look for me, text me, ask me how I'm doing, asks me to go out with him (as we would have before), he's extremely affectionate, he's caring and he's holding my hand, etc like he did before. WHAT IS GOING ON? Spent the night last night to make sure I was okay after the procedure (waiting on me hand and foot.)

Posted by CluelessCancer
Anyways it looks like you're stuck for 18 years, congrats on the Baby🙂 That's beautiful

Posted by VivaciousLeo917
@ CluelessCancer LOL I wish that were the case but I don't know yet! We'll see where we go with that particular route. I feel you completely - I don't want to be on this cold/hot limbo forever. I'm OVER it!

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I'm confused. I thought you had the procedure. Did I misinterpret something?

I didn't read the OP, only the responses ... and it sounds to me like this is another case where the female decided not to think, so instead came to dxp to get people to think for her.

If a person isn't capable of reasoning their life out, and incapable of living with their own decisions ... they are just another idiot, using up the oxygen that the people who do actually think, need.

Posted by VivaciousLeo917

He can go out and see he's not goign to find something like what we had that even the whole world, including his mother, says he messed up.

So now it's been 3 weeks and guess what I find out? I'm pregnant. With no intentions of telling him (because I already know he doesn't want a child anytime soon) I tell my friends (one being is bestfriend) who of course tells him. My ex contacts me right away. His heart pours out. He starts to reach out, we talk and can't come to a unified decision on how we'll move forward. He starts to come around just because.

I did read some, and what kind of bullshit do you think you're pulling?

What kind of pompous asshole are you, in that you would actually state that you think you're the best he could find? I'd love to be there the day someone knocks your throne out from under your lying ass.

And yes, I said lying ... because we all know you used the pregnancy falsehood with intentions of trying to manipulate him .. because, afterall, if you were a woman of integrity, you wouldn't be so irresponsible as to have a pregnancy accident with a man who wasn't your husband.

Perhaps, there are some you are fooling, but, not moi ... you're a Player, and it's written all over your WOT

CC---

I'm interested to see how this story unfolds. I'm not passing judgement on her. I'm Pro-Choice actually.
There just were some inconsistencies in her statements and questionable remarks.

*Three weeks pregnant. A little ironic taking a test before a possible missed period.

*Then it appears as if he doted on her after she had the procedure (maybe a possible abortion, still unsure)

*Then she alludes to the fact that she may be pregnant but is unsure of the future of her and this Virgo.

Maybe the OP will shed some light.

I may have misinterpreted something there. I re-read this thread, but the buzzing question(s) still persists.

Posted by TaurusBull1977
CC---

I'm interested to see how this story unfolds. I'm not passing judgement on her. I'm Pro-Choice actually.
There just were some inconsistencies in her statements and questionable remarks.

*Three weeks pregnant. A little ironic taking a test before a possible missed period.

*Then it appears as if he doted on her after she had the procedure (maybe a possible abortion, still unsure)

*Then she alludes to the fact that she may be pregnant but is unsure of the future of her and this Virgo.

Maybe the OP will shed some light.

I may have misinterpreted something there. I re-read this thread, but the buzzing question(s) still persists.

You didn't misinterpret a thing.

🙂

Her story changed midway through.

@ TaurusBull thank you for the more open minded questions.

I hope my explanation clarified a bit

"I am pro choice so I apologize for anyone whom I may offend. A week ago we decided to go forward with terminating the pregnancy."

This is so damn wrong. You certainly are Pro Choice. You chose to have sex with a guy who is a pathetic loser. And for your stupidity, you took the life of an innocent child.

Ever heard of adoption? There are thousands of parents in this country who are on waiting lists for babies. My brother and I are both adopted. My husband and I adopted a boy from overseas. Why you Pro Choice people can't chose this option over the selfish one is beyond me. Sorry, but women as you who have no problem having unprotected sex with a man who isn't even your husband, then freak out when you discover you're pregnant make me sick. Life is precious. Taking an innocent life in a couple of minutes because it wasn't convenient for you is disgusting. If you had done the same thing to a puppy, it would be considered a crime.

Suggestion: Don't have sex with a loser before you are in a serious, committed loving relationship with a mature and stable man. And if you can't do that, at least use protection/birth control so that you don't make another innocent life pay the price for your selfish, stupid, inexcusable behavior.

Calling total and complete Bullwhip on you right now! You CANNOT have any prosecute after 10 weeks let alone the 14 weeks or so you claim in your story. At least when making stuff up google facts and get stuff correct.

What is up this week:
2 random females
Virgo's in NY
Meet online
Dating long distance
Moved for or about to move
All within 1st 6 months of dating

I call bullshit.

Procedure.. stupid autocorrect.

Okay so let me make MANY things clear - I have an IUD which I have had for approx 2 years now. i was not having relations with a man with the intentions of getting pregnant. 2nd, you can have a procedure done up to 24 and in some cases 30. Anyone who has any questions and or comments in regards to that can contact a Planned Parenthood and ask for yourself.

How any of this makes a liar or some kind of idiot? I don't know. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter and I have no place either to try and convince anyone otherwise. With that being said, yes, I had a prodecure at 14 weeks. I am not saying that I am pleased or in some way fulfilled because I no longer carry a child, I simply said that I am now no longer pregnant. My emotions and my feelings behind it are not what this post is about. I'm sure there are forums for that as well, which trust me I'm sure I'll be reading into. I am simply on this site to try and maybe get some insight on his train of thought.

My only question was - He is starting to show interest again after all that he did to show me otherwise. He was one completely different person for 9 months & in a matter of 2 wks became another & now after the break up, the crap that has been happening and the pregnancy, he's showing affection &interest of working on things? THAT is my question... my question is it genuine or should I be expecting something else?

Posted by VivaciousLeo917

My only question was - He is starting to show interest again after all that he did to show me otherwise. He was one completely different person for 9 months & in a matter of 2 wks became another & now after the break up, the crap that has been happening and the pregnancy, he's showing affection &interest of working on things? THAT is my question... my question is it genuine or should I be expecting something else?

You talk of aborting this child matter-of-factly .... there doesn't seem to be much concern.

There appears to be a lot of concern surrounding how Virgo is reacting, in regards to you getting attention and affection from him.

You're a piece of shit ... no really, you are.

I agree that there are certain circumstances that women find themselves into in which they are unable to provide for a child ... but, obtaining the affections of a man is not one of them.


It boggles my mind at the amount of people in this world this fucked up.


Everyday, I could find one in here, and the dxp community is so minute compared to this vast world ... if there's that many in here, imagine how many fucked up people there are out there.

VivaciousLeo917---

The issue many individuals are having on this board is the lack of sympathy shown for the unborn child, and the 'centered' focus placed on this Virgo's disposition and interaction with you.

As I stated earlier. I'm Pro-Choice. No judgments here.

However, please utilize this time to heal and re-evaluate your impulsive actions, and unrealistic expectations in regards to this Virgo. An LDR can be quite vague, misleading, and ambiguous. The entire picture prevails when you're in the presence of the 'actual' person....more on a consistent basis.

I don't believe you were mentally prepared to raise a child, but you were quite pleased and overwhelmed at the attention you received from this Virgo, that you almost considered having one. The child would have entered this world under ALL false negative pretenses. If the relationship with the Virgo would have crumbled, any emotional connections you had to this child would have also dissipated. Call it my intuition.

I'm not a Virgo. But I don't think his issue with you is an astrological issue. He's human. He fell fast, and it fizzled out fast. It isn't nuclear physics. I doubt things will progress in the near future. His ambiguous actions stemmed from a man who was guilt-stricken. Not a man in love. Not a man who was confused.

Learn from this experience, heal and move on.

FYI...
As a Pro-Choice advocate, having a child should be YOUR decision, not dictated on how a man moves with you. Whether there will be a family unit or not. It's irrelevant. If it's presented this way, the intentions behind those choices appears more like coercion or manipulation.

Good Luck.

Posted by VivaciousLeo917

My only question was - He is starting to show interest again after all that he did to show me otherwise. He was one completely different person for 9 months & in a matter of 2 wks became another & now after the break up, the crap that has been happening and the pregnancy, he's showing affection &interest of working on things? THAT is my question... my question is it genuine or should I be expecting something else?

This may be very sad to hear, but I suspect that it may be the truth. He was real sweet to you during the pregnancy because he needed to ensure that you would proceed with the abortion. To give you a false notion that there would be a happily ever after with the both of you. This was just bad timing. The hokey-doke....Guilt just came shortly after. Pregnancy or no pregnancy, the fairy tale presented was simply an illusion, with no desire of pursuing a relationship. The outcome would have been the same.

-Again, Good Luck to you.