Letting it Go for Good:The UN-Virgo

Ok, guys so, I don't have meet the criteria for the Vguy team eh? lol no big loss....Just wondering what it is that makes me UNVIRGO— Trying to figure it out, but not getting it....anyone knows how to be a VIRGO—....Apparently I need help, and I'm WRONG for thinking about things from a 'subjective' standpoint looking at their effects on me.....

Apparently taking life and expanding the journey that is identity is generally a wasted endeavor/venture....now an Earth sign WOULD think this.....am I wrong? So then, what am I—....Maybe it's that good 'ol cappy rising that's doing it to me...that whole 'uptight in youth, and more laid back as you age' thing....I don't really know, I just look at these guys, and well I got nuthin' in common with them....it's like I'm from a different world....I don't know....I just don't see the point of half-assing anything, and not giving it all I got....NOTHING FEELS AS GOOD WHEN YOU GIVE IT EVERY BIT YOU GOT!!!! I'm either hanging up my wings, or becoming mr. Spock, now granted I'm light-hearted on many things but that's because life can't be all serious.....it's really just the optimist in me trying to really get the full worth of life out of EVERY SINGLE MOMENT.....I don't take life for granted.

so, how do I become a Mr. Spock—

I can respect that opinion....but what is reality B? how can you be so sure you're here living it....? That said, reality is COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE....and everything that comes out of you is the same that comes out of me....objectivity cannot exist because in REALITY no one can be that far removed from THEMSELVES to be considered 'objective'....that would be UNREAL... but do you honestly believe that ALL life is that superficially 2-D? You don't happen to think there is a layer that CAN'T be seen— Do you think that just because something might not have factual basis that is irrelevant— I have no intention of teaching you anything....I'm LEARNING....Pluto's been urking me lately.....I'm purging old beliefs and models and trying to put together a new work for my perception of reality....that's all B: The changes I'm going through are strong, and I guess my pushing your buttons the way I have is just the energy comming out as as result of this movement.....That's why I'm pushing you....I'm trying to get you to give me the info I need to put this frame around reality....I need to understand it.

The fact that you have a mind and you use it to weigh and ascess things of immaterial matter such as thought would be irrelevant to you when you consider that and speak so matter of factly about it....I can't understand why life is seen so simply by an older person....it's as if you have 'given up' in a way about everything that doesn't go on in the PHYSICAL world....

So that's it....that's all there is then....no love, no passion or inspiration....nothing that moves you to action—....wow...

*VE kicks at the ground in a MUCH dejected manner*

So that's it....that's all there is then....no love, no passion or inspiration....nothing that moves you to action—....wow...

There's plenty that moves me but I don't know how to express it all the time.

Many earth signs at some point in their lives just deal with issues that are solvable, instead of constantly worrying about things we can't change. It's not that more mature earth signs don't know reality, it's just that they accept things for what they are, and try to make their lives happy the best way they can.

I hope I don't end up it this way 😢 I want to always believe 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

I'm not saying 'well all you have to do is believe in the flowers and everything will be fine' I'm saying draw upon the strength of your own will and you're unstoppable....I'm also saying that not all things that can't be weighed and have material worth are pointless undertakings....There's power in belief....and the kicker about it is that you can take it as far as YOU want to take it...

I'm DEEPLY moved by my beliefs and ideals and so much so in fact, I've gotta pace myself, otherwise I'll go crazy....I believe that things can change simply by taking the first step by thinking....I mean, a Leader does inspire, and uplift people, and I understand how 'too good to be true' it can be, but there's gotta be more....if theres' a down, than there's an up....

gotcha....this is an integral part of my thinking as well....it should go without saying though that I do think about the effects reality has on us, that in turn is responsible for my reflective thoughts on reality at large....sometimes its simply asking a question and ariving at YOUR OWN truth which is what makes me 'feel' more growth/identity cohesion not about discussing the bit and peices....I believe in a balanced being the soul, mind, and body should be 'one' reality exists on all the levels these domiciles are located and to be a 'whole' human being to not lack on any level and to get the most out of YOUR reality you have to question your standing and what it is you lack that ....

So reality CAN be objective....in/on what terms? more statements equal more questions...this could be a while b...you up for it?

It's not that, CS...It's that you reach a better understanding of things, of the world around you. You don't worry so much over things, and you do just deal with things in a much more efficient manner. It's not a loss of hope, or passion - I think it's something to look forward to!

Now, as you fellow dxp'ers know, i'm not a religious person and I like people to believe whatever it is they want to believe in...So replace the word "God" here with whatever you see fit. But this is a great little saying I heard recently (though i'm sure it's not new):

God, grant me
Serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can, and
Wisdom to know the difference.

VE: I think it's a spiritual thing. You sound alot like me in some respects, and I enjoy reading with your posts because more often than not I am able to identify with you. Sorry, I didn't read the whole topic haha (feeling lazy tonight).

VE, I tried to tell you from the very first day you posted that you were unVirgoish, and you got mad and defensive with me.

You ARE NOT a Virgo, in the aspect of the normal characteristics of being a Virgo. You are different. You seek, instead of existing within the rigid confines of the mind, which is where the normal Virgo places him/her self.

They find fact, they find answers ... and stick to it like super-glue, unyielding.

You are very much different from this .... you search for life, and yourself, which makes you aware of your evolution.

VE .. it's likely that reality doesn't even exist, and this is why you can't find it .. however, you're suppose to keep searching for it, we all are suppose to keep searching for it.

If you ever find it definitively .. then you're dead.

Perhaps, just the fact that you want a definitive answer is Virgoish in itself.

I'll say this....I have a 'desire' to understand the workings of things around me: I feel 'disconnected' in a way and I aim to get that feeling/state back...to have the 'naked' truth about things....I want, NO I FEEL the need/urge to 'be uncomfortable' to be 'anxious' and to 'discover' myself through my feelings MY TRUTH.....I do have feelings but they are FAAAAAAAR from the sappy feelings that I tend to joke about....I'm drawing conclusions THROUGH these emotions....I've ALWAYS had feelings, I chose to choke them down, and stick to the daily grind, but I KNEW that something was wrong....

They're more tempestuous, and threatning to to the serenity of mind...but I do like that because they bring about the most disturbing, and insightful glints of knowledge....I'm seeing past JUST the material world.....as far as something existing, DOES it in fact have to be concrete to BE— No, I believe that FIRMLY....I'm seeking knowledge that will take me out farther than what I'm used to: it's hard to explain these feelings though....the urge to say something disconcertingly 'improper'.....to see what people are 'really' thinking.....Basically I need to feel a greater sense of communion/connection with some greater aspect of life.....I feel that this mundane life is less than desired...it just leaves you wanting for more....a HIGHER experience....

I believe this is apart of the 'struggle' that goes with the symbology of the sign though....it's said that the 'm' design is relative to the 'struggle of the spirit in it's natural evolution'......so, that means man is discovering his 'undiluted' soul in it's RAWEST forms....He passes through a Rational phase (world 1) Emotional phase (world 2) and the Spiritual phase (world 3) When it's all blended, you feel a sense of interpersonal 'wholeness' with things both within, and without....I've felt this before, but I haven't managed to sustain it.....which means I haven't mastered the lessons critical for doing so.

I want MORE....I can't explain it in any other way than that....I'm driven by the need for more....more knowledge, more awareness....more identity....I want to know what lies at the end of this proverbial road of mine....

During the course of life I've learned that we often encounter things about ourselves that 'injure' our sense of identity, and alter the very way we see ourselves....the security we had within is now gone away and we feel anxious, nervous within and everything feels chaotic....so we seek control of things outside of us through ritual, and routine.....I feel these things happening all at once....it enrages me, it envigorates me, it baffles me....I seek experiences to alter/control my identity and feelings...SEX yes is a big theme because to me it's emotional: not in the teary, sappy, way, but in the way that it brings me closer to the feeling of being at 'peace' with everything...touching base with my primitive impulses and re-interpreting them in the higher mind and bringing them together....

I know it SEEMS selfish, but communicating through another persons body as a medium to find the origin of your own needs and disolving that casing around your own being is....the best feeling in the world....I suppose I'm in phase 2 of life....


I know also being amorous is just the base impulses needing to be explored....its a 'calling' but what about the times you 'feel' a connection with someone before you even know each other....that 'first look' you give each other....maybe there's something going on on a lower level that bring you together....— A unique type of 'RESONANCE'—