Pisces male want to reignite the fire with his vir

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yungbrtha
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The deal with some pisces is that when we like somebody we would like to see them a lot. But with virgos yall need yall space. I stopped talking to a very attractive virgo because we weren't seeing eachother enough ( at least up to my expectations). So I asked her does she want to call it quits and with her cold attitude she said it doesn't matter and then i said aight and hung up the phone. But i do miss her and its been a month since i lasted talked to her. Is there any female virgos that can give me some help and put yourself in her shoes
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seizeTheDay
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I'm not a virgo female, but um... that whole, "It doesn't matter..." comment could have been her way of handling rejection... I mean, if some guy is thinking about ending a relationship with a female- and he says, "Hey.. do you think I should dump you..?" How does one respond to that? Should she say, "No please.. we can work it out..PLEASE LOVE ME" .. or.. "Ok, whatever.." To me, sounds like she was saying, "If you want to end it, then end it... not for me to decide." And it WAS your decision if you wanted to be with her or not-- and you obviously made it.

Also, just speaking from the very obvious point of view, if you hang up on someone- and don't call them for a month... it pretty much means, "It's over, time to move on." You can't cross bridges you've burned, my friend.

Furthermore, if you know that she's the type of person who needs space- and you want to see her all the time....and that sort of thing is important to you... then why look back on something that obviously did not work?

Anyway.. all the would'ves should've, maybes and somehows.. are all worth 2 cents.

You know her best. I'm just offering another perspective. Good Luck.
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"I'm not a virgo female, but um... that whole, "It doesn't matter..." comment could have been her way of handling rejection... I mean, if some guy is thinking about ending a relationship with a female- and he says, "Hey.. do you think I should dump you..?" How does one respond to that? Should she say, "No please.. we can work it out..PLEASE LOVE ME" .. or.. "Ok, whatever.." To me, sounds like she was saying, "If you want to end it, then end it... not for me to decide." And it WAS your decision if you wanted to be with her or not-- and you obviously made it."

What about that STD?

There is two answers to this situation. An answer that she already said and silence. When you silent, you don't say anything which means that you do not agree with the idea of ending the relationship. That means your answer is not "end it". But when you say "it doesn't matter" then you APPROVE what he said and told him to get lost. Your answer is literally that. You approved it. You said him go away. Silence means different thing and telling him "it doesn't matter" means different thing too. You don't have to say "it doesn't matter" you can be silent too.
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yungbrtha

I am not a female to gives you advice for already lost (friendship)?.

Listen to your own voice?

?because we weren't seeing eachother enough??.

What is enough to you..??
How much is too much..??

And you continue?.. (at least up to my expectations).

MY?.. MY? MINE?. What about HER..??

Hm?!

Congratulations.. You have earned the title of ?suffocator? an invaders of the personal privacy..

Let her have her own life? believe it or not PEOPLE DO HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIFE TO FOLLOW?!

As she said? and std interpret it correctly? you asked her wanna quit? means you gave her an ?ultimatum??!

Well.. to a Virgo, ?Ultimatum? means one thing? ?get lost?? no one gives ultimatum to a Virgo.. male or females alike?

Next time you come across to a Virgo please behave and try to understand her FIRST..:!
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The "ultimatom" have never have to be interpreted as real ultimatom. And saying "get lost" doesn't have to be just reflected to the question. We live by who we are who we feel are. So saying goes accordingly. If she said get lost as a reflection to the question then this means that she didn't able to show her "own personality" but just emotionally reflected to the situation. Where is understanding here?
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I actually don't think that this is some sort of "ultimatum" or that kind. I see this as a "proposition". The proposition where people start to show their real intentions, becase this is the last point of standing on that way. Beyound that point is either to be or not to be. I think this girl simply acted super emotionally or unconsciously and simply killed her chance and probably didn't show her true nature which means in either case she hurt herself.
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seizeTheDay
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This forum is for communications, therfore the main purporse of it is to talk. We are not bound here to change anyone's point of view. At least this is not my goal. I can talk only for myself. Maybe we will just debate about it to have stronger understanding of "what we already have". Beleiving to it or not is personal choice. Again, that's your choice.

Good job at stating the obvious, haffo. Glad you finally see where I'm coming from.
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" Good job at stating the obvious, haffo. Glad you finally see where I'm coming from."

Just my 2 cents ST😱

There is other side of the medallion. Instead of acting according on only what you "bond" to do, sometimes you go further of that and act according something that is not you bond to do. This is called "being friendly". Sometimes people do get that and return favour...
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That's odd haffo, because your "advice" is everything you haven't been since you came on this board.

Just because I choose not argue with you on some topic about someone else's life.. that makes me.. "unfriendly" ? Because there are some things I choose to debate with you about-- others I just say.. "Hey, whatever, it's just your opinion.."?

There are some things I want to expand out.. others I don't. This conversation wasn't one of them... and I bowed out to let you argue your points to others if you so chose to. I prefer to call it diplomatic.

BUT since we're pulling out quick observations...., when a conversation gets to hot for you... drop out with a cute, "have fun..." or "I'm turned off..."

For me, I just rather say, "let's just agree to disagree.." or, "your opinion, dude.. don't wanna argue about it.."

Futhermore, I do a lot of things I don't "bond" to... by entertaining many conversations I've had with you.. especially ones regarding sex or relationships-- IN PART because you haven't had either-- and I can't understand where you're pulling this plethora of wisdom you seem to have.

If you're gonna give me 2 cents, or another side of a medalion... then you should be the shining example of it.. which you are NOT.
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I do agree that I do not act same as I say to other. I KNOW IT. And I try to find these diffferences STD. But that's my problem.

" Just because I choose not argue with you on some topic about someone else's life.. that makes me.. "unfriendly" ?"

No. That makes you neutral. Unfrendly is negative. I didn't mean not answering by choise is negative, because choise is always neutral. It can't be negative. When the base of one thing is neutral, everything built upon it have to be neutral too.

I do understand that you do more than you have to do in other topics. Perhaps one thing that drives me crazy about you in this topic is that you really seem to lose "nothing" by sharing your opinions to the fullest. But again even if you not, that doesn't make you unfriendly. Just neutral.
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" In either case I don't think she answered to his question according to her real feelings to this guy.

I called it like I saw it. If he doesn't think the answer was good enough.. let HIM ask."

I just speak about probability. She truly may mean to tell him get lost. I can't know which one is really true. I don't make any finaly judgements about the situation. And this is definetly not my way of handling such situations either. I call it quits when I want to quit regardless what she think, because I already tried everything before I say it.
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Haffo.

The reason why I am neutral because.. Who am I to this person? Who am I to you? Who are you to me? What am I to gain or lose when I have no stake in this person's life- nor they have any in mine.

When I post a response to someone's topic, I can't say with absolution that THIS IS the situation. In reality.. like everyone else, I'm just guessing.. just giving another point view..or giving another perspective beyond what this person is seeing.

There's no right or wrong. That's why I feel no need to argue.

I'm neutral because I honestly don't know if whether my impressions are absolutely correct or undeniably incorrect because I don't know youngbra- or his ex lover... but I wrote it, because it's something worth considering.

So basically, she maybe anxiously waiting by the phone waiting for YB to call.. or not.. I don't think so.. I wouldn't be.... but I'm not gonna argue with you on whether she is or she isn't.
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Imagine you are in some restaurant ?.. now Picture a dish with nice food on it? you start eating and have that nice food in your tummy? but you are still hungry?!

Do you turn the dish up side down in a hope to find some more food—

It?s FINISHED?! And the only solution to this is to order a new one?!

Both sides of medallion..? What about it..??

He asked for a female opinion.. and suddenly someone ?inappropriate? start to think and speak of both yungbrtha and his Virgo lady mind and behaviour?

Is that a both sides of medallion..?

Listen dude?.no matter how you sounds?. You can?t think like Virgo and certainly you have NO knowledge what so ever about human to human relationship?!

Stop trashing other people?s topic and cool off?..

He only asked for female advices and wishfully a VIRGO female..!

Now why people twisting things that actually have only one answer..? A guy named yungbrtha and his lady... Either ways, he knows it well what to do next, he just needs some encouragements and not ?acknowledgements? and that?s it..!

And suddenly his topic turns to be some ?semi philosophical? arguments?!!

Give it up already ?!!
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Good questions STD.

Well these questions very difficult to answer,becase perhaps it's due to the fact that many people have many different reasons. But some reasons that seem to be same and mutual to everyone here is having fun and discovering something about ourselves throught experiencing them with real people.

I can answer to your questions only from my own point of view because as I said above everyone has their own reasons.

I find debating on such topics as interesting, sometimes funny (it could be biased to the fun side of the irony sometimes) and understanding myself. You see, I do write almost everything on this topic for the first time in my life. I do try to express verbally and therefore sharpen my thoughts. This is really good thing for me.

I don't realy know why you are posting some sexual jokes on other topics. Perhaps for the same reasons that I have. I do find these debatings funny too.

However...:

"So basically, she maybe anxiously waiting by the phone waiting for YB to call.. or not.. I don't think so.. I wouldn't be.... but I'm not gonna argue with you on whether she is or she isn't."

I am not up to go that far. I mean, this is logically impossible too. There is no data to evaluate this information. What I did before was just adding my point of view which I find interesting. I thought it would be interesting to find logical reasonings between different point of views and learn something from each others point of view. And yes, as I said I am not up to go that far. It's impossible.

I hope I made sence.
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Qbone:

Do you really believe that this electronic board is something different from your example with food? You sitting at home and speaking with people that you have never seen before. Everything we say here, even the ones that you consider "real" ones are still just imaginative. Virtual. Period.

Not just me but also you can only "speculate" about things that was happening between this guy and this girl. You don't have any more access to real information as I do. What's wrong with it when I give some more deeper informationa and more cleared sight on probabilites. Isn't that something worth to hear instead trying to figure out by yourself? It's not worthless as you try to mention about it.

And about Virgo female stuff. I don't think that you are Virgo female too, and you still posted your opinion here too. So what's wrong? If you think that me posting is wrong then why you yourself don't follow your own way of thinking too?

Also I would still post to this post even if he ask about Virgo female or any other person etc. No one is prohibted to write here anything. If he doesnt like my point of view he can ignore it. Why I do this here? Because I find it useful for myself to learn express myself. I don't care if my opinion were taken or noticed or not.
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Ahh?.

Haffo?. I have 3 posts ?including this one?? If you read those 3 correctly I haven?t said anything about his lady?!

? First one was to ask him to search the problem in himself.. not his lady..!
? Second one speaks for it self.

And this one.. as I told you before?. I have no desire to answering or arguing with you anymore and I made this post as common courtesy?!
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Im not a virgo but yeah,I've done that in a situation similar to this one when I was younger and agree with STD and OFA.It's also a quick way to say "go away" with little or no arguement because your about to start getting emotional but dude doesn't want to be there so why make him feel guilty and possibly stay there just to be nice but not because he wants to be.If you would like to know if that's the case YOU are going to have to contact her and ask her,maybe explain that you should've asked to start going out more often rather than going for the break up thing.
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Well it sure is getting hot in here!

All I can say is my Pisces man was very full on at the beginning and still is... wanting to spend all of his time with me and quite rightly 'suffocating' me. I wanted my space, I spend a lot of time with my friends. At the beginning I was such hard work. I didn't once let on to how I felt about him, and I didn't care at all in the beginning.

My point is that if he had turned around to me and said the same question I would have replied the same as your Virgo. I would think how dare he not fight for me until the bitter end! Even if I really liked him and was playing the usual ?very hard to get? and probably never would have contacted him again.

But my Pisces did, and now a good 7 months later I SOMETIMES let him know how I feel back.

I'm not saying that?s the case with your Virgo, she may well not give a damn, but knowing how stubborn I have been in the past it may just take for you to phone her up and say you made a mistake and maybe with any luck 'take is slowly' from there. Virgo women require a lot of patience and hard work, but we are so worth it!!!!

Anyway best of luck, hope this was of some help.

Virgo Girl