SOUNDING THE VIRGO ALARM!! NEED HELP WITH GF!!

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Okay I might post this in Gemini too but I figured I'd start at my end of the equation.
Any male virgos here like me that are or have dated a Gemini?
I know it's a recipe for disaster based on the signs but I really really don't want to lose this girl.
Mainly for fear of the concrete I will hit once I fall after the breakup but also because she's amazing and perfect...
well ALMOST perfect...

It's the whole "I've got to flirt with every man" thing they MUST do and if you bring it up, try to do anything about it you get the whole "I'm just gonna go. I'll call you tomorrow"

Any by flirt I mean the BAD kind.. that LEADS to things. Having men over just the two of them and he brings her food and they are supposed to be "working" then she complains about how they got nothing done and was long winded.
I say you should set boundaries and she claims to have but their flirty emails speak otherwise...
I know.. I am a total d1ck and should be shot for looking at her emails..


HELP!!!
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The below came from Gem Nation's thread .....


Posted by kevinflynn

I have a bunch of emails between her and this guy who is engaged to a girlfriend she knows and I know there's not any serious X rated talk but DEFINITELY blatant references.....

.... In fact my harmless flirting is how I landed in bed with her... She was married, it was doomed WAY before I showed up and she had been caught cheating twice 5 years ago...but it is proof positive that the excuse just doesn't hold water.







For some reason you can say the words, you can even type the words ... but, the reality of it's actuality is not sinking in to your brain.


Thus far, from what I have read, you have thoroughly and completely entrenched yourself into a cheater, and are now dumbfounded as to why she doesn't recognize how to be virtuous.


Why should she want to consider how you feel? because you have placed yourself in a position to honor and adore her, and your whole description of the relationship clearly suggests that you would go to your death defending that position ....


.. a cheater woman has you right where she wants you ... and you are completely blind to it, you think your duty now is to save a princess from a dark shadow, or some such fantasy shit.


Look, here's the bottom line ... you are too eager to give yourself up, and she took it, now you're trying to find a way to make her realize that she should want good qualities, your good qualites ... she's a Gemini = she's easy to get in bed, impossible to get to care.


I'm not sure what you are doing .... it looks like you've completely blinded yourself to the reality that you are the only one in the relationship that cares.

It's like, you'll say the words .... that if she cared she wouldn't flirt, without any conscious awareness that to say the words don't mean shit in just words only.
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Posted by kevinflynn

... but I really really don't want to lose this girl.







The girl you don't want to lose is the fantasy you have in your head about how you want her to be .... you are deluded. You have an imagine of how you expect a girl to be perfect in your mind and now want to place this image on a girl who totally disrespects you, and doesnt' care about how you feel.



Posted by kevinflynn

.... men over just the two of them ..... I say you should set boundaries and she claims to have but their flity emails speak otherwise ...

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She is not a good woman, she is not marriage material .... you are one of her notches she currently has in her belt .. and you are totally clueless to it ... you obviously think that you are her man, when in reality, you are one her fuck buddies.


A woman who loves her man, and respects her man ..... doesn't have to be taught how to be a good woman ... and apparantly you think alls she needs is for you to put another layer of ignorance over your head every time she disgraces you, because what you blind yourself to, won't hurt you.
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Excuse me, I believe I ordered the double whopper medium well.... 😄 haha one moment while I edit the thread title to:
"I'd like to be flamed, well done..."

Now that everyone got their shots in, anyone else feel like stepping up and actually addressing my post?
Or is the net only good for ME making YOU feel better and superior? I think it's more important you get the message across that you think I am dillusional and ignorant and just a plumb fool than actually apply some grey matter... but of course that'd be helping someone else and who has time for that?

Anyhow I had a huge counter-rant I was going to post but then I found this:

"Virgo man Gemini woman
I went out with a Virgo man for two an a half years I am convinced he's my soulmate I absolutely still love him. We broke up cause we argued way too much and because in the initial phases of our relationship I got bored and I hurt him (I didn't cheat, I was just very flirtatious) regardless it causes a huge problem in our relationship. He was resentful and mean and I stayed because I felt guilty. We loved each other very much but we couldn't make it work. He agreed that we don't know what's going to happen in the future and that we'd be open to getting back together. I really hope so. I just regret how my restlessness and boredom got the best of me and ruined the best relationship I ever had. I am working on it now. I only hope we have another chance in the future."

THANK YOU LADY!!!

see? I should have taken this to the Gemini's forum... Leave it to Spock to be critical and harsh..
THAT is the one thing I should have known better...frankly.
"Posted by kevinflynn
Okay I might post this in Gemini too but I figured I'd start at my end of the equation."
DUH comes to mind...
P-Angel, captain obvious much?


As we all pump that $ 3.81/gal gas and think "Why so much?" just revel in the fact it's because there's 3 black/white in here and 1 grey/out-of-box.... Don't question, accept. Impose benign indifference... It's exactly what Uncle Scam needs.

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Posted by kevinflynn

Now that everyone got their shots in, anyone else feel like stepping up and actually addressing my post?






Translation: Would someone please tell me how to sufficiently get my Gemini girl, to whom I love, to notice how wonderful I am .... I've made a vow to love her, no matter how much she doesn't care .. and goddam it, won't you all just stfu about integrity, and just tell me how to suck far enough up her butt to get her to notice I'm a good boy who is willing to forgo anything that even resembles dignity !!!
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Kevin,

Don't fret, not all is lost. 😉 You can't judge everything by sun signs. I'm a Gemini and my bf is a Virgo and we're perfectly matched. As long as you have complementary placements in your charts every sign is a potential match for each other.

I am NOT fickle in any way whatsoever; if anything, I complain about my Virgo's wishy washiness more than he does of me. I'm a planner, he's not. He's more outgoing than I am even though I have A LOT of friends. We're both very friendly, to the point that many perceive as flirting; but, that's not it at all, we're creatures of communication so we need the interaction/stimulation. I know better and so does he. We trust each other and tell each other everything so we don't nag about this issue. He does a million things that shows I am the only one for him, and I do the same as well, so why sweat the little things? However, we always encourage talking and communicating with each other if something bothers us (we are soooooooooooooooo good at this! It has made our relationship very fulfilling), and this is coming from a Virgo who is inexpressive! 😄
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Oh P-Angel could you please pass relentless christian judgement on me? Wow what a prison you make of yourself... it must suck to have all of your thoughts governed by someone else's conditions.

Seriously wtf is p-angel's deal and please try a little to live up to the name "angel" you have serious anger issues.
SOOOOOO glad you're not a Virgo. So P-Angel you've taught me that I am never going to associate with a fish.
Opinionated much? (yeah throw that back on me please.. exactly HOW have I demonstrated that one?)
And for the record, postings that you think are profound because you buy your own BS about having me figured out?
Well you are just making yourself look like an ass because you don't even have a clue. What's my favorite color? Did he ever cheat on her? and if so, who did first? you have no idea what you are flaming about.. you just need a bag to punch.

1)NEVER HAVE CHEATED. EVER in my life but it's happened to me more than a few times. (but you thought you knew otherwise)
2)They had FILED when her and I were together, he had moved out.
3)You don't know HIS end of things...

I like how you have no problem broadcasting your summary judgements on people with maybe 10% of the facts at hand...

CLEARLY not Virgo material.. haha... 52, so OLD... and bitter... you clearly had some dude you were all wrapped up about giving some other girl the good pole... while you got his BS... that's PERSONAL hurt talking there... you simply don't know me well enough to come at me that way so it's the only rational explanation.. I feel for you because you have a chip and a soap box and those people are typically instigators and not very well appreciated in matters such as these..

I share some personal information publically and so I KNOW that's an invite for dolts like you but it's always going to be annoying as hell to me... Just like driving in D.C.

I don't have any real feelings about your posts directed at me in a condescending manner other than "WTF? I seriously hope there aren't people THAT bent walking around."
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Sticking to point:
Anyhow what I did take from all of this was that after some serious thought is this, mainly I need to figure this out on my own but there are some cogent points in here, sugar missing or not, they are accurate.

These are the statements I have to agree with:

"You should know better than to get serious about a woman who will cheat on Her Man with you - regardless of her Sign.
Technically since they weren't leagally divorced at the time it's cheating however he had moved out and we had only been "harmlessly flirting" until he did. Again that's the point I was trying to make."

Absolutely. Again technically she did cheat but they had been apart for some time already.. They were headed for divorce even if I never met her. But it's still a character element that needs to be acknowledged. She does want to not repeat her past mistakes and she really beats herself up a lot over the hurt she's caused him. Not an excuse but believe me, she's been in a BAD place before about it.

and P-Angel's comment:
"Look, here's the bottom line ... you are too eager to give yourself up, and she took it, now you're trying to find a way to make her realize that she should want good qualities, your good qualites ... she's a Gemini = she's easy to get in bed, impossible to get to care"

Whether she's the slut P-A has pointed her out to be, the main point stands, I can't simply give myself away so easily.
I have to make any woman worth my heart and make them work for it. If they don't want to, they just aren't into me. I can then move on....

Thanks guys! I am going over there today and we'll talk and I will share this thread b/c she will get a real kick out of mrs. sunshine pants there.... haha.


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God, no wonder she cheats on you ... and doesnt' want you around for any real life experiences except in bed ... you're a moran, who cannot hear anything that even suggests you might have to look at yourself.


You spend all that time reacting defensively, a whole post responding to me ... to turn around and say you don't care what I said.

then next post, you quote me and agree.



What an idiot .... you will fit in just fine in dxp



then you finalize it by saying that afterall the abuse you get from her in terms of her not respecting you ... you are going to go be with her anyway.

Seriously, Virgos are so fucked up, dude.
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@MedullaOblongata
It sounds similar to us. We have a friendship that was formed before the romance and it's more prevelant than any other aspect of our relationship. We share everything and usually resolve any turbulance within a day or so. We never get hostile or yell, just emotional and dramatic! haha. So a lot of crying and "I've gotta go.. I'll call you later" types of scenarios when it's "bad" but overall I have no reason to complain. We're soulmates. I found this link and it's spot on with advice about Gemini(f) and Virgo(m) together.

It said, "If Gemini learns to brush off the criticism of the Virgo and the latter learns to respect the freedom to the former, this love match can definitely work. "

Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/3t6al3q<BR>
Thanks for your post because it's identical to what I experience. I have to address the issue of looking at the emails (which she has full knowledge I have access to the PC) and feeling the way I do about them. I will catch heat for peaking but my main hope is she will see that her chemistry which downplays the gravity of her communications being "social" over "flirting" I think this is individual interperitation. If you pay a man a compliment, you might see it as being polite or social. He or others may view it as flirting. I guess it's all subjective and once I learn where she is truly coming from (bored, looking for new things, and it is flirting but "won't go anywhere" vs. just being friendly)
Because if it's the former, personally it's like someone telling me "yeah I am speeding but I am never going to crash"
well that may be their intention but we all know about good intentions, accidents and probability.

Take me for example. My intention was to be friends and help her through the abusive seperation and divorce. Once this one bad night happened, he moved out and she got served papers, that is when my intentions failed...

So using that logic, I am not sturdy enough to handle it being real "playful flirting" on her part. She may think she's got that under control but I will always view it as a risk.. I think all it would take is me pissing her off real bad, her having one of these guys on the ropes finding out about it and seeing it as a chance to move in, and then she's just setup for failure.. I'd rather have a woman who won't create or put themselves in that position in the first place. I'd LOVE to be able to handle that but I know myself and I just can't....
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Angel, here's something you will never grasp. YOU AREN'T PERSONAL TO ME.. so I truly don't care.
You are a "get the last word" "well let me tell you how it is" self-righteous a-hole.. frankly that's about as cerebral as I can sum YOU up.

I look at myself plenty, have gotten away with NOTHING in my life and have paid for OTHER'S wrong doings.

The reason I can post one thing citing you for who YOU are which you don't even choose to acknowledge, you simply just come at me more with the treetrunking.. It's like you're a 5th grade playground bully and all you can do is crack fat jokes on me... DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? no, because you don't even know me but presume to have me 100% figured out...
I never get into net fights and you aren't about to be making history in that here.

I can hear a blow hard like yourself and STILL see the good in what you offer despite the fact it's mainly just a bloated diatribe.

If you aren't nice and maybe I am not liking you so far, I am STILL FAIR in seeing the truth in whatever you might offer.
That's how I can post the next line titled "STAYING ON POINT" which clearly you won't and acknowledge your VALID point of me giving myself away... and I am nobody's sucker so you bet your ass come tonight if we can't get through this, I can certainly move on with myself...

God it must really suck living a life of bondage like that... pointing down on people you don't even know??
What about the ones you DO know... I bet you talk $ h1t behind a lot of your "friends" backs don't you—

Anyhow you've gotten about all the attention from me I can give you...
Go ahead and tell me how it all is and by all means, take the last word...
I will put a WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT into your net posts and live my life by them.. 😄

You seriously are mental though, THAT is about the most sincere piece of TXT I have typed this month.
Whoever hurt you REALLY did a number..
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You are just like most of the other Virgos in here ... you will do well with your delusions of grandeur ... and throwing in some melodrama is working well for you also.



Yes, you will do fine. I would suggest making a thread about how great you are .. and you will find all the other Virgos who suffer the same psychosis piping in to pat themselves on the back ...

.. oh, and also throw in proud you are of having emotional control just after a temper tantrum.

Yes, we all do love to witness that ^^^^^^^^^

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It didn't take more than my single day here to figure that one out.

I agree on the whole scorpion and frog thing with cheaters HENCE the post..
but as far as defensive and my own words.

If you asked "I got this Fiero and it's got a loud noise, I am afraid it might break down, where should I take it"
and you get
"WTF r u doing buying a piece of crap like that? You deserve to be stuck on the road buddy! you must be a real sap"
I am sorry ANYONE, regardless of zodiacs here, would take a defensive posture to that kind of "HELP"

I haven't flamed back at you because although you are saying similar to PA, you aren't being a jerk about it.

I think people who responded are too hung up on the infidelity to really offer anything tangible.. THAT to me is the offensive part if there really even is any because it just shows a real shallow thought process.. (at least from the standpoint of just stright insults towards me)

I can take my licks like a man and so far TyDyed I can't really argue w/ anything you've said because it's on solid ground.. but you know how it is when your heart is involved... I wish it were like everevolvingepithet had said & it was all between my legs, but it's way more than that...

If it were merely a great piece of tail I'd have left the 3rd or 4th time we'd been together based on just the logic of "if she cheated on him..." PA was right in the sense there's a bit of fantasy on my part but her viewpoint is just a slight bit exaggerated.
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Posted by kevinflynn

I think people who responded are too hung up on the infidelity to really offer anything tangible.. THAT to me is the offensive part if there really even is any because it just shows a real shallow thought process.







Translation: I don't want to hear anything other than how to get this woman to stop disrespecting me and work for my trust, and I'll be damned if I will tolerate any truth I didnt' ask for because then I might have to realize I'm fucked up.
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Not to worry PA, I have you to make sure I never have to feel good about myself.
🙂

Can you seriously though, all chest beating aside, tell me what your deal is with Virgos?
You clearly had this opinion before I showed up and now I am more interested in your story rather than just coming out on top in a thread... I picture you in your room getting a good laugh and we must be some form of amusement to you..
but honestly between my posts and yours, you clearly win on showing as superior.. Let's set the volley aside and see if there is any substance there... Are you just trying to get people stirred up because you like the drama?
You messed up on that last post because you said something about a temper tantrum which only tells me you completely missed my point and read my post way wrong.

(yes ignorance is frustrating but I am truly emotionally NOT upset or angry, I am actually writing a program for my employer.. that's about where I am at mentally)

The reason why I ask this of you is because I want to know if you are just playing fun or if you truly are harboring negative shite about me (or virgos at large)... This will help me understand if it's a ME thing that set you off (which asks "what did I post that went wrong here to cause this") or if it's a YOU thing in that it's all just nonsensical BS for you to pass the time with and there's no real weight behind your statements...

Or you can just keep pushing the button that you think is working... either way I don't care but I figured I'd throw that out there...Yes, your confidence is transparent to me. Trunk or not, it's solid and sure footed in the ground... I can see a Poseur when there's one around..

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You describe your situation as pathetic = you have put trust in a woman who flirts badly with other men, and because you are obessed with your possession of her and wanting her to want you as badly as you do her ..... you have chosen to blind yourself to any truth of that.


You don't want to hear anything except a way to get her to change to suit you ...



Well, I'm not going to entertain your delusion, and you can yell all you want to .... I'm still going to tell you you're fucked up because any person is fucked up who believes a whore is his queen.


Actually ... maybe you likely, huh? Maybe you like trash.
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Your problem .. and yes, I am diagnosing you .... your problem is that you came in here presenting your situation as a self-inflicted-victim, and expected people to say "woe is you, how beautiful of a person you are to sacrifice yourself like that **hugs**" ... and instead you got the truth smacked upside your head for being a martyr



TRANSLATION: I think I know more than you, but really I only show my small mindedness by putting a LOT more information about you than is present and taking a dice roll at being right... See I must be right... I diagnose people instead of myself and I keep my cards close because it's a losing hand... GOD FORBID I use my "truth" and righteousness on myself! tht's be horrific. It's much easier for me to point out others flaws and THAT is how I get to feel good about me..


Did I get it right? Is that how you do it?

Lemme know when you want to join the human race...
For now I put you in the category of Lawyer... "What I say is the truth"

Sorry, I wasn't expecting ANYTHING but a flaming from some dolt like you.. I am in I.T. I do a lot on the internet and you guys are in large abundance... go to youtube and you will see your entire extended family.. they flame no matter WHAT..
they are the reason a jazz video is posted but by the 2,326th post, it's an argument about race or something really high-brow like that...

Oh darwin... you are way wrong on the whole elimination thing.
😄 hey at least you got me to break my word on not counterpunching... I just can't help it, you're a huge target! 😄
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Posted by kevinflynn
BY the way, like the slow ahole in front of me wanting to miss that green light... you've succeeded in de-railing the topic! w00t!

Mission accomplished.





What the fuck is the matter with Virgos?

I didn't derail the topic .... I'm more fucking on point with the topic than you are.


You have your head in the sand ... and it pisses you off. Don't worry though, you are going to go talk to her tonight and laugh at this thread .. that should be successful in putting another layer of ignorance over your head. And it will probably last for a couple days ... so you shouldn't have to worry about any inappropriate flirting she's doing while the laugh lasts, because the layer of ignorance also lasts.

So, you have a couple reprieve of being happy in your fantasy before you'll have to deal with not being happy when the whore flirts, because you won't have to notice.

And hey .... maybe you could incorporate this whole thread into another 3 years, or however long it's been that you've failed to get this woman to learn that she has to work for you ... like everything you think she might be doing something inappropriate, you can go over to her house, pull up the thread .. and voila !!! You two will have something again .. a laugh.

And you might even get a blow job !!!!
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I think I should have posted:
"Fellow virgoans, I am dating a gemini, is there any advice someone down the road has for me? She's fairly casual with some things flirtation wise that I am not, but I am certain there is nothing going on"

That's my sole point of stupidity right there.. I see a LOT of fantasy on your side if you think what you've contributed thus far is "on point" and accurate. Your assesment of me is not even close. (more fantasy) I'd say the only thing you have that's accurate about me is that I gave myself away too easily. That is all, you'll just have to trust me on that.

What you do is not acknowledge my opinion of you, you just throw more of your opinion all over me and package it in a profound tone that sells it as "right" Classic Sandler tactic... If we are talking about kevin, we AREN'T talking about PA... but either way you are way wrong.. this thread wasn't "Please tell me what's wrong with me" which is all you've done so in the end, you've given everyone here your opinion of me. You've contributed nothing but a simple net debate. you didn't make statements like "You should tell her this.." or "If I were you I'd try.." It's just insult after insult and condescending garbage... Frankly you're an unattractive person to me because you can't deviate from your programming. All you know is "do this, do this, do this" that to me is sheer stupidity in it's most refined state. You have assembly line efficiency with your stupidity. You absolutely cannot deviate from the same post over and over.
Mine has covered ground, addressed other posters and focused on the topic. Yours has been the identical post one after another...

TyDyed sums it up well. Maybe wrong, maybe right, but either way, with things like faithfulness it's better to error on the side of caution. I'd hate to say once a cheater always a cheater. I would certainly like a second chance to stop that habit if it were me, but because I have feelings invested it may be the best play..

I have a job to keep so PA I leave the floor to you and by all means, flame on... it's about all you're good for in here at this point... Tell Jerry Springer I said hello next time you're on there.
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hmm so she hangs out here deliberately because "nobody gets upset except maybe qbone" and says I am throwing tantrums? But I had called it being a button push from early on. It was the chess player in me to hide my knowledge of that fact...
Thanks for that tidbit though! 😄 Again, this is NOT my first forum and I see lots and lots and lots and MANY lots of the PA types out there. Early on like in 97 I would have falled prey to her gambit but I've learned since probably 2003 that you simply cannot take any of this net garbage literally and especially personally.. knowing how I am when I take personal items to heart i'd have killed someone or myself by now I am sure... This is hardly the place to find self gratification though, I mean really, it's like beating up a 6 y/o kid, where's the sense of accomplishment in that? Not that all of us are whimpy 6y/o kids but point is, you have NO idea who's on the other end and they very well could be the equivallent.
For me to summarize this whole back and forth thing was like I was trying to talk to someone and this mosquito kept buzzing in my ear to the point of annoyance, and then eventually a swat... There's a name for her condition.
Leave it to East Germany to fabricate it: "Schadenfreude" - The enjoyment of other people's discomfort, despair or misery.

I have to admit though, it was a GREAT exit from the boredom of writing code, let me tell you.
I really owe her thanks for making the morning more interesting! 😄

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Posted by kevinflynn

Got what I needed in the end.







Which is actually a lie ^^^ because none of the responsers in here aided you in your delusion by offering .........


Posted by kevinflynn

.... you didn't make statements like "You should tell her this.." or "If I were you I'd try.."






In reality, you just made that lie above to try and make it look like what I was saying against you ... and this is due to your inability to think anything exists outside of your ego-inflated head.


Posted by kevinflynn

Frankly you're an unattractive person to me because you can't deviate from your programming.

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How you think I look, has no bearing on the topic, which is ..... you've got your head in the sand and it pisses you off.
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Which is actually a lie ^^^ because none of the responsers in here aided you in your delusion by offering .........





So now you are illitterate? I will let them speak for themselves but a few people DID offer advice on my subject.
Something you've proven high incompetent at providing.




In reality, you just made that lie above to try and make it look like what I was saying against you ... and this is due to your inability to think anything exists outside of your ego-inflated head.



a)Don't confuse intelligence with ego. Ego I have not. I can get plenty of people who KNOW ME (unlike you) to back that up.
b)The above sentence in itself is a lie because I did nothing of the sort. It's not ME MAKING A LIE. It's me giving you an example of what a mature person would have said. (again, something you are not. You admitted you start shit on purpose. that's not mature is it?)



How you think I look, has no bearing on the topic, which is ..... you've got your head in the sand and it pisses you off.
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1)You say I have my head in the sand? What about...so because you say it pisses me off, therefore it does? Back that up please. I am not pissed I am laughing my ass off..
Clearly you are getting frustrated because little fishy took the hook and you are now a FISH OUT OF WATER flapping around on the earth where the stump you drew back is looking at you going "She's truly just lost it now... she's just bumping into walls... her $ h1t's all over the place!"

2)Now you've shown yourself to be shallow and crass. You ASSUMED I was talking about looks. I don't even know what you look like you psycho... I said unattractive PERSON... which clearly you are just backing up my claim..I could care less about your looks. A shallow person equates attractiveness to merely looks alone. I take a lot more than that into account.

Oh and do this:
if I am full of it, treetrunkin' a $ $ and all, and ego'd out and stupid as you say and all of the claims you make tell me this oh genius..
HOW IS YOUR LAST POST ANY DIFFERENT AT ALL FROM ANY OTHER POST YOU'VE PUT UP HERE??

It is not, you are a one trick pony. something smells fishy here....
It's you... Give it up already, get over yourself and move on to your next victim.. you are starting to hurt your already infamous reputation on here and frankly the deeper you lock horns with me on a trivial subject like myself, you only serve to
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That one got jacked because of the multiple quote commands so here's the short version.

STFU, get a life outside of my thread already and go buy some fuggin ears already...
sheesh.. a pair of eyeballs and reading lessons might help you out too.

Let's see: head in sand. Ego, treetrunk, pissed off..
I think I just summed up your entire vocabulary.. right?
bwahahahaahh!!!!!!

What a douchebag....
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Again, I will offer you the only thing you need to hear ...... you can hear it for what it's worth, or you can stick your head in the sand and go la-la-la-la again ... your choice ...



.. you have yourself entrenched in a cheater, thinking she's a keeper, and the only thing you need to do is wake the fuck up and walk away .... because she doesn't care about how you feel.
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Hmm. here crying? hardly. But anyhow I need to give you some facts so you aren't full of $ hit anymore...

1)I had met her 4 years ago. MET. Not slept with, dated, talked to on a regular basis. MET.
2)It wasn't until her ex and her split that we starting seeing each other and went beyond friends.
3)The flirting is something that has surfaced probably within the last year which is almost exactly the amount of time she's been able to go out and do stuff w/ her friends when she wants to.

Those are inarguable facts. These are things that I would know and you'd have to take a guess.

There isn't anything I do or do not want to hear. I am not conditional. I simply will acknowledge or disavow something as credible reference. So far you haven't proven to me you are a source that can be taken seriously so whatever you are saying to me about ME without any substance to back it up other than what I've been shown of you in here... I am just not going to file it under any cabinet of use.. sorry.. it goes into the paper shredder.

That's not conceit, sand all over my head or anything of the sort. It's you coming off as an insincere blow-hard that is self-admittedly starting shit with people just to get reactions. You need professional help because the worst position a person can put themselves in is when they aren't honest with themselves. I've never seen anybody who is lying to themselves come out winning in any situation. You clearly are getting high on your own supply and frankly it's just another stain on your shirt from my point of view... This goes way beyond mere poking for fun or "maybe she's right"

Even if it's harmless which it is, and it's maybe you insisting I agree with you because you are one of those people who HAS to be right... bottom line is you've pretty much shown me these facts about you, even if you're 100% right about me..

1)Immature
2)Disturbing
3)As a person, there isn't much going for you. You'd have moved on by now or at least changed your posture in the slightest. You'd rather continue to flap on the sandy beach you just washed up on...gasping for air.
4)Determined to "win" which I concede to the loss. I capitulate to the better mind. YOU ARE AWESOME. I am pathetic...
5)Unable to really think of anything other than the same single minded droning issue you seem to think you've become aware of. If it were true, you'd make OTHER points. You'd be done with your rants and taunts, etc.. but basically you keep trying to sell
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don't sell a salesman. I am not buying into your pitch.. fish EAT the hooks they don't cast them...
Either way, it's no longer amusing or fun, it's just depressing and annoying... have a good weekend.
I pray that some mod either uses the ban hammer for a few days or closes this thread.

because clearly logic, intelligence, reason, thinking... basically anything that demands you look around and give pause...
isn't going to shut you up... and really now that's is the only thing I care for is either PLEASE come up with better insults or DIFFERENT ones, or do something other than the same cr4p you've been doing this whole time.. it's lost it's flavor.

I am leaving now so I won't be on until Mon.

caio!
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Posted by kevinflynn
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It sounds similar to us. We have a friendship that was formed before the romance and it's more prevelant than any other aspect of our relationship. We share everything and usually resolve any turbulance within a day or so. We never get hostile or yell, just emotional and dramatic! haha. So a lot of crying and "I've gotta go.. I'll call you later" types of scenarios when it's "bad" but overall I have no reason to complain. We're soulmates. I found this link and it's spot on with advice about Gemini(f) and Virgo(m) together.

It said, "If Gemini learns to brush off the criticism of the Virgo and the latter learns to respect the freedom to the former, this love match can definitely work. "

Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/3t6al3q<BR>
Thanks for your post because it's identical to what I experience. I have to address the issue of looking at the emails (which she has full knowledge I have access to the PC) and feeling the way I do about them. I will catch heat for peaking but my main hope is she will see that her chemistry which downplays the gravity of her communications being "social" over "flirting" I think this is individual interperitation. If you pay a man a compliment, you might see it as being polite or social. He or others may view it as flirting. I guess it's all subjective and once I learn where she is truly coming from (bored, looking for new things, and it is flirting but "won't go anywhere" vs. just being friendly)
Because if it's the former, personally it's like someone telling me "yeah I am speeding but I am never going to crash"
well that may be their intention but we all know about good intentions, accidents and probability.

Take me for example. My intention was to be friends and help her through the abusive seperation and divorce. Once this one bad night happened, he moved out and she got served papers, that is when my intentions failed...

So using that logic, I am not sturdy enough to handle it being real "playful flirting" on her part. She may think she's got that under control but I will always view it as a risk.. I think all it would take is me pissing her off real bad, her having one of these guys on the ropes finding out about it and seeing it as a chance to move in, and then she's just setup for failure.. I'd rather have a woman who won't create or put themselves in that position in the first place. I'd
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Posted by SunGem20
^Virgos are very intelligent, most of them are self taught...I enjoy listening to them, they have a way with words that blow Gemini's out of the water.. Sorry fellow Gemini's, but its true..What takes a Gemini eight paragraphs to convey a Virgo can say it in a sentence or two.



I concur. I tell my Virgo friend that he is the ONLY person I've met in my lifetime who can teach me a thing or two.
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I appreciate everyone's help. I was with her this past weekend and it's really hard to see the bad in any person as it is but when I am with her, I feel as though I am just being a bit over the top with the things that "bother" me. There's realistic and there's rediculous and I think mine lays in between the two somewhere.

@SunGem20: Your makup of us being too critical.. I think that's why Spock has a bad wrap....
He comes off as unemotional and harsh.. He's obviously overly logical to a fault but if anyone of the 12 is guilty of that, without a doubt it's us. If it's any consolation, we only offer those viewpoints, not to smite you or make you feel lesser as a person, but to give you an advantage when weighing things out, getting feedback, etc...

It's very hard to see the positive in someone giving inventory on things including on yourself so I can totally sympathize with your viewpoint entirely. Just know it's not out of any malice or hatred or spite... it's simply being bound to math and logic... 🙂

@TyDyed:
"Kevin,

You can post facts to Angelina all day long... it makes no difference...

You Virgo, You Bad -- that about sums Her up."

Amen brother, Pathetic Angel or whatever the P stands for, to me is merely gum which has lost it's flavor..
Was good at first but now, proving to be a bad nintendo game that just eats quarters...
I really thought there was going to be a good wrestle match, but we all know the meaning of "fish" in wrestling...
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Posted by kevinflynn

... it's really hard to see the bad in any person as it is but when I am with her, I feel as though I am just being a bit over the top with the things that "bother" me. There's realistic and there's rediculous and I think mine lays in between the two somewhere.







Yes, you are definitely being over-the-top captious ... you prove that everytime you go through her texts, looking for something to suspect.

I guess that if you don't have trust after 4 years, then perhaps it's better to find reasons why you don't by looking through texts .... that way you have something to blame it on so you can continue to feed on dubiety.

But, now you've been totally filled up with fucks and BJ's ... you have been passified again with being sexed ... so now you should doubt yourself, on cue ... afterall, if you didn't doubt yourself on your false judgements of her then her manipulations using her pussy wouldn't be working.

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ction alert...

Posted by P-Angel


Thus far, from what I have read, you have thoroughly and completely entrenched yourself into a cheater, and are now dumbfounded as to why she doesn't recognize how to be virtuous...

... a cheater woman has you right where she wants you ... and you are completely blind to it, you think your duty now is to save a princess from a dark shadow, or some such fantasy shit.




That's your first dispensing of great wisdom..

Here's the second...

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... afterall, if you didn't doubt yourself on your false judgements of her then her manipulations using her pussy wouldn't be working.

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So which is it? Is she a whore or am I "falsely judging her"??

You're slipping PA... unbecoming of someone who's perfect.

Either way, whether I am treetrunked, fooling myself, living a fantasy or some over-judgemental ahole...
Here is some honesty...
I haven't engaged in any banter more lacking in the cerebral since highschool....
It's like you presume that putting words in my mouth with make with your succession or that if you
spice things up with a higher grade vocabulary it will sell better...

Bottom line are these two observations:
1)There are two ways to provide an opinion, answer a question or provide insight into a topic. You consistantly have chosen the abrasive, abusive and condescending path. This only lends to discredit your statements as biased or "one sided" and ultimately works against you

2)You really cannot point anything out positively or sight facts in this case that would support progression, change, or improvement from when before you arrived...

So really maybe I don't say much for talking the amount I do, but you don't provide anything other than worthless in your "contributions"

For an analogy:
I have a flat, I am on the side of the road, I call for help.
YOU show up.. and it's "you have a flat. you're not going anywhere"
"tires are expensive"
"What the hell did you do to cause a flat?"
"What an idiot, you deserve to be stuck here"
"You have a flat"

rinse and repeat...

So exactly how is the world of my flat tire example any different with you in it?
You've succeeded in pointing out that you carry no value or worth in your statements...
END OF LINE.
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