Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/9/2006 4:25:40 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.245
[3] His Sexuality
Strings: I'm gonna address your particular (and thoughtful!) questions in depth (yep, pun intended!) at the bottom. But first, I must dispell some common misperceptions and down- right anti-Virgo propaganda that I've read on other sites (but not on DXP so far!)...
First, contrary to popular belief, Virgo male is rarely a Virgin in the sexual meaning of the word. Unfortunately, his guarded nature, general reticence, and discreetness make him less likely than guys in other signs to "screw and brag" - though he may be tempted at times to set the record straight. He respects the woman he loves too much to get points with his buddies at her expense, and is also uncomfortable with her yakking about his prowess with her girlfriends - even if she's giving glowing praise. Another factor is his tendency and preference for monogamy; healthy Virgo man will sow his wild oats, but even these juvenile romps will be less frequent and more serious than those of his peers - quantity over quality! Add to this the fact that "nice guys" are often in short supply, and it's no surprise that Healthy Virgo guys tend to marry at a young (< 30) age - and then stay married. To sum up: Virgo man tends not to screw everything in sight, and even if he does, he doesn't plaster it all over the Sunday papers!
Second, before Virgo man gets totally uninhibited (yeah, I mean UNINHIBITED!) with his lady, he's gotta have LTR - no, not Long Term Relationship (although that is his objective) - I mean Love + Trust + Respect. Other guys in other signs may have similar needs, but for Virgo man LTR is the central platform that precedes and is essential to the ultimate one night stand, or 30+ years of monogamous bliss. It's a tripod, so each leg must be equal, or it will become unstable - and eventually topple (though Virgo man will try to keep the balance for a long time!).
As for the other LTR: On the freeway of love, Virgo man is like the Volvo, while guys in other signs may be more like a Corvette. If you're planning for a cross-country trip, which car are you gonna choose? You probably want durable, safe, and reliable. Don't have time for that, or you just wanna dash across town in head-turning style , then go with the Vette! As for the cross- country: the Libra exwife and I had to drive 2800 miles in 5 days. We mated 3-4 times a day, because we had nothing else to do but drive and shag - stayed in hotels, ate in restaurants, so I had nothing domestic to fret about...
Now, to StringsAttached's specific questions (or, Takes a Virgo to KNOW a Virgo)...
1. What's the best, easiest, fool-proof way to get a Virgo man to bed?
Depends... Romance or Romp? If it's romance, better stick with the L+T+R, or he's not gonna take you SERIOUSLY - and that's a dead-end road... If it's a quick-fix, you're gonna have to be assertive, but not necessarily aggressive - stroke versus grab, kiss versus suck - to get things going. Lots of casual, non-threatening body contact lets him know you're ready to go - get him on the dance floor, or, out on that "nature" hike (just had one of those myself!), or any venue where you can show him what you've got without SHOWING HIM EVERYTHING! Remember, he's "mental", so to get him in the groove you gotta stimulate his imagination before anything else will get stimulated!
2. Do they really prefer for the woman to be the aggressor? Is this occasional or all the time?
Once in a great while, I'll take the back seat, but I definitely prefer to have the wheel - and the accelerator! We're not control freaks, but we are skilled laborers, who take the TIME to learn the CRAFT, and we like to display our skills with that one special lady! However, we do like strong decisive women, and if she wants to be the "instigator" (say, for a late-night / early-morning session), we're generally not insulted or threatened by it - just remember: she can be assertive, but shouldn't be aggressive...
3. Are they really completely emotionally detached from the sex act and see it more as a physical release/regular duty to be had?
Hell, no! This is definitely a case of anti-Virgo crap! We are probably the most 100% 'ers in the Zodiac - and that really applies in the bedroom! Not bragging, not exaggerating, but I go for the gold medal with my woman, and from what I hear from my brethren, this is the rule, and not the exception!
4. Are Virgos really as well-endowed as they're said to be, along with the other Earth-element men?
Strings, REALLY! I haven't taken a tape measure into a locker room, and I don't plan on it either - I like to keep my good looks! I can say that in my case, I'm not in the male porn star category, but I'm somewhat larger than the textbook average - way "broader in the beam" if you know what I mean. I have, on occasion, caused some pain and/or discomfort - mostly during the one-nighter (and yes, alcohol was usually a factor!); it's not a turn-on for me, so I work extra hard to get the lady ready for the bumpy ride...
5. Are Virgo men unimaginative and "clumsy" (as the books say) when it comes to satisfying a woman, or are the other websites correct: that they are great lovers resting on a wealth of hidden, volcanic passions that need only be ignited for his true flame to burn?
I suspect that Virgo young man is as hormone-driven and clumsy as about any other guy. But, mature Virgo man takes the subject SERIOUSLY, and will study for that PhD with all the energy and tenacity that he applies to other vital areas of his life... By his mid-20s, he surges ahead of the guys from the other signs, and I don't think they every catch up! Add to that the fact that he will note everything you like and dislike, and you're gonna be hard-pressed (yep, meant that one!) to find his equal...
6. I read his "tummy" is a major errogenous zone and I read elsewhere that it's his buttocks. Where to, gentlemen?
Start at the belly, move up to the chest, before you slide to the root of all joy...
7. Is it true that--if the Virgo dude is tuned in to his lover--he can make it seem that everytime is "like the first time"?
It will be his goal - he aims to please EVERYTIME!
8. True that they like a lot of eye contact and "talking" during love-making?
Yes! I prefer the light on, so I can SEE what effect I'm having on you. Lights out - TELL ME where I'm at... Don't need a play-by-play, but err on the side of noise versus the sound of silence...
9. Well, uhhhh, errrr, hmmmmmm .... ARE they the kinkiest lovers in the zodiac?
No... We don't get KINKY with the one we love, we just do whatever it takes to make her happy. I draw the line at pain - giving or receiving - but I've shagged in a WIDE VARIETY of places, positions, and with all sorts of inanimate objects - but no barnyard animals! As for multiple partners - ONLY if they're all of the opposite gender!
10. I hear they're fantastic kissers. Care to share?
Well, the only woman I've ever kissed that even came close to my smooch index was another Virgo - like I said, takes one to KNOW one!
Message posted by: StringsAttached on 4/9/2006 5:04:02 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.12 Okay, Dy, and I have almost no time to write right now, so I'll respond a bit more later. You did, however, clip question # 11, I suspect by accident:
11. Also hear there's no other sign that's better with his hands. Hmmmm. Wasn't aware there were extra tricks out there that any man with hands doesn't "have," but if you care to fill us in on any details . . . . 😄
I have to say, this was one of the most exciting (meant that) reads I've ever had on here! WOOWWWWWW! Do you have it together or do you have it together! Hilarious, insightful, fantastic--just a thrill to read. I am utterly betaken by your intelligent wit and depth of self! I love gettin' this stuff straight out of the horse's mouth--nothin' like it and it doesn't come close to all that "anti-Virgo crap," as you say on certain sites. Now I can sleep tonight, Dy! (Whew! Makes me wanna run over to the local Rent-A-Virgo and grab me one!)
Thanks a billion. I'll letcha know when I come up with a few more questions/comments.
Oh, BTW, LUUUUUVVVVV what you said about the LTR and especially in relation to the tripod. Did you come up with that yourself?! Incredible.
Gotta run, will chat later!
Message posted by: Beguiling on 4/9/2006 5:40:55 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.54 Thank you Dyrstr8z,
This is very thorough. And titilating. And confirms what I suspected was true of my Virgo--but with much better clarification and detail.
I like love in the darkness. Scorpios are nocturnal creatures afterall. However, I do need lots of auditory stimulation. Not random nonsense or screaming, but softer whispers of endearment, or comments about what my partner is thinking and feeling (emotionally). And some direction about what to keep doing and where. I can see well in the dark, but its the audtiory part that gets me revved up for rounds four and five.
Are Virgos comfortable with providing lots of ear candy during lovemaking?
Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/9/2006 6:26:32 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.245 Strings: OOOooops! I did it again!
11. Also hear there's no other sign that's better with his hands. Hmmmm. Wasn't aware there were extra tricks out there that any man with hands doesn't "have," but if you care to fill us in on any details . . . .
Don't know too much about the other signs, but Virgo guys are "handymen" in EVERY sense of the word - we like to use them on the job (whatever and wherever the JOB might be!)... Let me say from personal experience: If a woman doesn't want me to use my mouth, no problem! I'll just ply my trade the conventional & tactile way - again, whatever it takes to make the earth move up under her --- uh, feet!!
Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/9/2006 6:28:52 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.245 Beguiling: "Are Virgos comfortable with providing lots of ear candy during lovemaking?"
Oh, mama-mia! If you aren't talking, we will be! Lots of positive reinforcement - usually whispered, or in low tones that make you get closer to hear them... Always works for this Virgo guy...
Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/9/2006 6:42:48 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.245 Strings: "what you said about the LTR and especially in relation to the tripod. Did you come up with that yourself?! Incredible."
Thanks! Yep, that's one of mine... Use a telescope often, and know first-hand about the need for Balance...
Your ScorpioGal is truly a lucky woman. How is she today? I'm referring to your post about ear candy and whispered pillow talk. EEEEEYOW!!! If I ever get my Virgo that far along, I might have to keep him sedated and chained to the bed post.
Please, don't chain him down, let him use those hands as nature intended!
Message posted by: Beguiling on 4/9/2006 10:21:14 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.66 Dyrstr8z: "it's not a turn-on for me, so I work extra hard to get the lady ready for the bumpy ride... "
Oooh, I believe you've caused me to wet my bloomers, as they say in the South.
Beguiling
Message posted by: StringsAttached on 4/9/2006 10:35:48 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.166 B: "Are Virgos comfortable with providing lots of ear candy during lovemaking?"
Woooooo! I second that motion! (Oh, ha ha ha ha ha! Pun intended!) Girl, you straight on with your "EEEEYYYOOWWWWW!" What is it about that pillow-talkin'?! Can't get me ENOUGH of it!
Dy: "...but Virgo guys are "handymen" in EVERY sense of the word." Oh, lovin' it! This is better than rentin' a sleazy flick! #8: "but err on the side of noise versus the sound of silence..." For sure! I think "ear candy," Beguiling, is the ultimate tease, so talk, talk, talk away with your VirGuy! (Very clever, Dy.)
Dy's opening comments: "Unfortunately, his guarded nature, general reticence, and discreetness make him less likely than guys in other signs to "screw and brag" - "
What do you MEAN "unfortunately"? I find this a very charming quality and one to be cherished. This is just my type of guy (but then it WOULD be with my being a Virgo).
Dy: "but for Virgo man LTR [Love, Trust, & Respect] is the central platform that precedes and is essential to the ultimate one night stand,or 30+ years of monogamous bliss."
Oh, sing to me, darlin'! That's so deep! (And appreciable.)
"On the freeway of love, Virgo man is like the Volvo, while guys in other signs may be more like a Corvette.If you're planning for a cross-country trip, which car are you gonna choose? You probably want durable, safe, and reliable."
Ya know, it's funny, I always hated Corvettes (seriously--I just never got the point). Wonderful analogy here. I'll take me a Volvo anyday!
Dy, your response to my Q#1 was most excellent, however, I guess I didn't clarify myself well enough. We'll take your response as a valid and insightful reply to "how do you get a Virgo man in bed?" Whereas I was actually making a reference to once you're already in a love-making relationship with one and he's bogged down with bills or on the computer or involved in a project at the moment, and the lady feels like "attacking" him and "taking him over" . . . (Now, I know you said she can be assertive but shouldn't be aggressive. I'd appreciate a little elaboration here--what's the Do? what's the Don't?) I'm specifically referring to a woman who's intensely heated and wants to make love RIGHT THEN. My question was, what's the best way to go about doing this? To break into his bogged down/occupied-at-the-moment mode and successfully get him "right where you want him"?
Q: "Do they really prefer for the woman to be the aggressor? Is this occasional or all the time?" A: "Once in a great while, I'll take the back seat, but I definitely prefer to have the wheel - and the accelerator!" Ooooo, I like!
"3. Are they really completely emotionally detached from the sex act and see it more as a physical release/regular duty to be had?" Reply: "Hell, no! This is definitely a case of anti-Virgo crap! We are probably the most 100% 'ers in the Zodiac - and that really applies in the bedroom!"
Daggone, am I glad I asked these questions!!! It just gets sweeter all the time!
"4. Are Virgos really as well-endowed as they're said to be, along with the other Earth-element men?" A: "Strings, REALLY! I haven't taken a tape measure into a locker room, and I don't plan on it either - I like to keep my good looks!"
"6. I read his "tummy" is a major errogenous zone and I read elsewhere that it's his buttocks. Where to, gentlemen?" A: "Start at the belly, move up to the chest, before you slide to the root of all joy..." Lawdamercy, it's gettin' mighty hot in here!
Now if you'll excuse me, I've got my OWN showering to do! This is great, Dy. Pull out the plugs and get to elaborating and loadin' us up with some . . . uhhhh . . . info! Something tells me you just got STARTED with this topic. There ain't a Virgo-lovin' woman on here that's not going to be prostrated at your feet before all this is over with! (I'm talking obeisance--get your mind out of the gutter!)
Message posted by: StringsAttached on 4/10/2006 12:29:48 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.166 One more mention:
Beguiling: "Are Virgos comfortable with providing lots of ear candy during lovemaking?"
Dy: "Oh, mama-mia! If you aren't talking, we will be! Lots of positive reinforcement - usually whispered, or in low tones that make you get closer to hear them... Always works for this Virgo guy..."
Cracking up at Dy's "Oh, mama-mia!" Only a Virgo (or similarly-oriented person) could appreciate the wealth of feeling/force behind those words! My thoughts exactly. "If you aren't talking, we will be! .... usually whispered, or in low tones that make you get closer to hear them..."
Dy, you forgot to mention all the heavy-breathing that accompanies the ear candy. Music to my ears indeed! Sets the stage for all the rest ..... (And Dy says the talking is usually "whispered." He meant "moaned.")
Message posted by: Beguiling on 4/10/2006 11:21:52 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.166 StringsAttached: "Dy, you forgot to mention all the heavy-breathing that accompanies the ear candy. Music to my ears indeed! Sets the stage for all the rest ..... (And Dy says the talking is usually "whispered." He meant "moaned.")"
Strings, you are a Virgo? I swear you have several distinctive Scorpio tendencies. And thanks for asking some direct questions of Dyrstr8z. All this comes in handy as I prepare mentally and physically for the deflowering of my Virgo.
Beguiling
Message posted by: StringsAttached on 4/10/2006 1:11:33 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.107 Dy, on "screwing" a woman then bragging about it to his friends: "He respects the woman he loves too much to get points with his buddies at her expense"
Dy, you're the best . . . . 😉 This isn't seen as a weakness (at least not with Virgo female)--it's seen as an incredible attribute and downright worthy of her!
Message posted by: StringsAttached on 4/10/2006 1:23:13 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.107 Beguiling: "All this comes in handy as I prepare mentally and physically for the deflowering of my Virgo."
Hilarious! You go for it, girl!
Yes, thought it was obvious I was a Virgo (that's why Dy and I take turns "tradin' punches" with each other. We love all this Virgo stuff.) I've always been very attracted to Virgo men and definitely "want me one!"
Check out my profile--it's got Virgo right up at the top.
You have to admit, don'tcha, that Dy is one of the greatest things that's happened to this site yet? Wow, what a wealth of humorous, intelligent information. Those 24 years of marriage weren't in vain, Dy. You wouldn't be half the man you are if it weren't for them--regardless of the outcome (and I suspect you wouldn't be the other half if it weren't for the military!! LOL Just kidding . . . you're a great guy with a great head on your shoulders).
This has been quite the journey of enlightment lead by Sir Dyrstr8z. He is so unlike my Virgo, in that my Virgo is far more reserved and keeps his heat well under wraps. However, in getting to know him, I perceived his smoldering interior although we never talk or hint of such matters.
I am similar in my public demeanor, so we play off of each others' perceived innocence and have been working to be ulta appropriate when in each others' company. It surprises me to know that Virgos have such thoughts. I was anticpipating having to work hard to bring his sensuality to the forefront. It's nice to know we are on the same page.
Strings: Ahhh! Those were the days, weren't they, Dy?
Yes... Indeed! In just two years I've gone from frantic love-struck VirGuy to married & thoroughly contented VirGuy - but I'm still Dead Sexy!!
Example: Debra read in a lady's magazine that the average American couple makes love about once per week, or about four times per month... well, based on our last 24 months together, we're averaging about 10 months of American nookie for every 1 month we've been hittin' the sheets... not bragging, just stating the facts (like any other true Virgo)...
Of course, the article didn't provide any details about the Signs of the couples surveyed, so it could very well be that the questioners didn't talk to any Scorpio + Virgo couples... probably would've skewed those averages!
[3] His Sexuality
Strings: I'm gonna address your particular (and thoughtful!)
questions in depth (yep, pun intended!) at the bottom. But
first, I must dispell some common misperceptions and down-
right anti-Virgo propaganda that I've read on other sites
(but not on DXP so far!)...
First, contrary to popular belief, Virgo male is rarely a
Virgin in the sexual meaning of the word. Unfortunately, his
guarded nature, general reticence, and discreetness make him
less likely than guys in other signs to "screw and brag" -
though he may be tempted at times to set the record straight.
He respects the woman he loves too much to get points with his
buddies at her expense, and is also uncomfortable with her
yakking about his prowess with her girlfriends - even if she's
giving glowing praise. Another factor is his tendency and
preference for monogamy; healthy Virgo man will sow his wild
oats, but even these juvenile romps will be less frequent and
more serious than those of his peers - quantity over quality!
Add to this the fact that "nice guys" are often in short supply,
and it's no surprise that Healthy Virgo guys tend to marry at
a young (< 30) age - and then stay married. To sum up: Virgo
man tends not to screw everything in sight, and even if he does,
he doesn't plaster it all over the Sunday papers!