Virgo man with Asendant Capricorn
Virgo man with Asendant Capricorn
And your Q?
My man is a Virgo Sun and moon. His ascendant is Capricorn. He lies alot, cheats, is extra secretive. On the flip side he makes me feel sooo safe, and loved. I am a Cancer sun and moon with a Ascendant Libra. He says he loves me and does everything he can to take care of me. I pay no bills, he cooks, coddles me totally. Now, he is 5 years younger. Someone please help me figure this man out. He is about to lose this scared Cancer heart. Why is he so rotten?! I put our charts below. Size us up please i'm new to this.
Him- Capricorn Ascendant
Sun Virgo
Moon Virgo
Mercury Libra
Venus Virgo
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Libra
Uranus Sag
Neptune Sag
Pluto Libra
True Node Cancer
Chiron Taurus
Me- Libra Ascendant
Sun Cancer
Moon Cancer
Mercury Leo
Venus Gemini
Mars Taurus
Jupiter Gemini
Saturn Leo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sag
Pluto Libra
True Node Libra
Chiron Taurus
Okay, don't cut me up...I'm new here lol!
Him- Capricorn Ascendant
Sun Virgo
Moon Virgo
Mercury Libra
Venus Virgo
Mars Scorpio
Jupiter Scorpio
Saturn Libra
Uranus Sag
Neptune Sag
Pluto Libra
True Node Cancer
Chiron Taurus
Me- Libra Ascendant
Sun Cancer
Moon Cancer
Mercury Leo
Venus Gemini
Mars Taurus
Jupiter Gemini
Saturn Leo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sag
Pluto Libra
True Node Libra
Chiron Taurus
Okay, don't cut me up...I'm new here lol!
What makes you think he lies and cheats?
Posted by LovelyScorp
you have a tough one there. oh my.
you just have to deal if you want to be with this one. He is not not going to change, that is a given.
with all that virgo in the chart and a cap ascending. ice.
but he's got the mars in scorpio going on. a bet he's a really good lover, on his terms only though.
LS: I don't see lying and cheating though... distant, hard to read, not necessarily forthright with everything, but a cheat? (lying could actually be just keeping secrets)
glad we're on the same page 🙂
@Brown: What is your history with him?
Posted by lildol
@Brown: What is your history with him?
We've been together over three years now. We live together. He has always been a big liar. To your face! With a straight face. Always been secretive.
What else can I tell you? Questions, questions!
Posted by LovelyScorp
He has so much virgo in his chart I'm thinking he knows exactly what he's is saying and doing. He may be saying something that she just doesn't want to hear.
I can't see someone with that much virgo able to hold back, you know?
The only thing I could see as secretive is maybe finances, and not so much secretive as private. Private is a better word.
He says, he loves me, never anything critical (surprisingly), never anything negative at all. He supports me totally. The only complaint I have is that he's not clean at all! Lies, cheats, too secretive. Those are deal breakers for most. But i'm hooked!
age must come into play here...
Hon, what has he lied about, do you know for sure, or are you just speculating?
Posted by lildol
Hon, what has he lied about, do you know for sure, or are you just speculating?
I'm not cheating- Spoke with the other women
I am not talking to other women- Saw the text messages, read the call log, called the numbers.
ect. ect.
Age might be a factor he's 27, I'm 33.
My Virgo guardian surprised me today. He's not domestic at all, but he cooked cleaned and was very affectionate today. Trying hard to show me he loves me. Still he said " I do alot to try to please you, but you never see it". I see it. The crap he does usually trumps it. But I love that he was born. *smiles*
Posted by LovelyScorp
I can't see someone with that much virgo able to hold back, you know?
um. what? first off, when virgos want to lie, they are some of the best liars. blurting things out is for fire signs and geminis when they're especially hyper. virgos are excellent at holding back anything and everything.
his libra mercury would make him very "diplomatic" with his words. good at bending truths to fit his purpose.
ascendent is how we are viewed by the world. cap ascendent means he wants to be viewed as a powerful, controlling "father figure" regardless of age difference in his relationship.
mars in scorpio means that his primary motivation in his actions is control and power.
and virgos themselves can be pretty fucking controlling and power-hungry too.
Posted by curious visitorPosted by LovelyScorp
I can't see someone with that much virgo able to hold back, you know?
um. what? first off, when virgos want to lie, they are some of the best liars. blurting things out is for fire signs and geminis when they're especially hyper. virgos are excellent at holding back anything and everything.
his libra mercury would make him very "diplomatic" with his words. good at bending truths to fit his purpose.
ascendent is how we are viewed by the world. cap ascendent means he wants to be viewed as a powerful, controlling "father figure" regardless of age difference in his relationship.
mars in scorpio means that his primary motivation in his actions is control and power.
and virgos themselves can be pretty fucking controlling and power-hungry too.click to expand
He does like control. Maybe that's why we get along in general. I could care less about control, as long as my needs are met i'll let you think you wear the big hat and badge. As i've explained to him. Star/planet being whatever- cheating places my life in danger. Now if you wanna roll the dice with your jaw toys go right ahead. So i've been distant when it comes to opening up in that way b/c of the fear I will contract something unwanted....Plus i'm a Cancer and my dang feelings are hurt!
I'm a Virgo with Ascendent Capricorn.
I don't lie, cheat or live a secret life. I do, however, have many female friends.
I don't lie, cheat or live a secret life. I do, however, have many female friends.
Posted by Cajunspirit
I'm a Virgo with Ascendent Capricorn.
I don't lie, cheat or live a secret life. I do, however, have many female friends.
I really don't know then. I figure out what I could be leaving out. I never cheat. I try to give him space cause I know my emotions can kill the flame sometimes. I cook, clean, everything you guys are supposed to dig. IDK.
If this has anything to do with it...His mom has been having a long term affair with a married man for years now. This guy treats him like a son. Monetary support, emotional support, and all.
Mom also had an affair with his real dad and he was a product of that situation.
His father abandoned he and his mother. His mother also abandoned him at one point during his adolescence.
His mother's sister (who is married) is having an affair with his best friend (my man's best friend. He and that particular aunt are very close. To the point that his password is her name on all his stuff. that's how I can get in.
I thought Virgos were above being influenced by crap like that though...More of leaders,innovators than followers. But that's all I can come up with. I refuse not to take care of my man, so that's not it. Sex was fire for us both unitl he started this cheating crap. Mouth open, toes curling, the whole nine.
He'll never be able to get away with it. Cancers are possessive, little investigators. It drives him to rage when I violate his privacy too. I already knew that would rub him wrong. Every time I find something it pushes me further from him. My Capacity to forgive is tapering. Besides how much can someone REALLY love you if they continue to cheat and lie to your face. Seems like a lost cause...
Posted by LovelyScorp
@Brown69
maybe you have confronted the so called other women. do they say there is something intimate going on or are you just speculating?
he may very well have many female friends and if you are going to continue to be with him you are going to have to accept that. it is unlikely to change.
Ummm, no the texts say (Just let me____ just once please) and that's coming from him! When I spoke to the woman she indicated that they never met up, but what if she'd said yes. It's still cheating in my eyes. And in the beginning of our relationship he told me he was older (he looks older than he is) I thought "aww he likes me so much, he wanted to be what I was looking for" That is until I found out about a secret baby. It turned out not to be his, but he was taking care of the child for an entire year before I pressured him into a paternity test. He was NOT the father. Then there was a woman out of town that he'd been sleeping with that called me sobbing b/c she found my texts to him, and thought they were going to be in a relationship. That said,"yes" I confirmed that he lies, and cheats.
I too don't think he'll change, and I told him that. He just hung his head in shame. So yesterday he tries all this catering to me. Still doesn't change the fact that you disrespect me on the regular. I enjoyed it, but still fully plan to move when this lease is done. It's just so hard to be in the same space all the time. Uuugh!
His familial situations do not apply, he is a product of his environment, but such behavior, IMO, is not hereditary.
Again, we're still under the impression that his cheating is speculation on your part and possibly something that you've fabricated (in your own mind, not for discussion sake on the board, to be clear) because of your own insecurities.
You talk about invading his privacy and he, rightfully so, being upset about it. I'm not discounting that he may be cheating, but it is starting to sound like your lack of trust and jealousy issues has your mind spinning in circles. The spiral will end, you will hit bottom and the relationship will be no more. If this is the case, get a grip on yourself girl!
If, in reality, he is cheating on you, GTFO!
On another note, why have you said multiple times now that you never cheat... out of curiosity, do you have a guilty consciousness yourself?? If so, this could be spurring your belief he is cheating...
Again, we're still under the impression that his cheating is speculation on your part and possibly something that you've fabricated (in your own mind, not for discussion sake on the board, to be clear) because of your own insecurities.
You talk about invading his privacy and he, rightfully so, being upset about it. I'm not discounting that he may be cheating, but it is starting to sound like your lack of trust and jealousy issues has your mind spinning in circles. The spiral will end, you will hit bottom and the relationship will be no more. If this is the case, get a grip on yourself girl!
If, in reality, he is cheating on you, GTFO!
On another note, why have you said multiple times now that you never cheat... out of curiosity, do you have a guilty consciousness yourself?? If so, this could be spurring your belief he is cheating...
Our posts crossed, but I am not going to hide what I said because I still think it is worth a read for you. I will further comment on your post (but, you may not like it).
Posted by lildol
His familial situations do not apply, he is a product of his environment, but such behavior, IMO, is not hereditary.
Again, we're still under the impression that his cheating is speculation on your part and possibly something that you've fabricated (in your own mind, not for discussion sake on the board, to be clear) because of your own insecurities.
You talk about invading his privacy and he, rightfully so, being upset about it. I'm not discounting that he may be cheating, but it is starting to sound like your lack of trust and jealousy issues has your mind spinning in circles. The spiral will end, you will hit bottom and the relationship will be no more. If this is the case, get a grip on yourself girl!
If, in reality, he is cheating on you, GTFO!
On another note, why have you said multiple times now that you never cheat... out of curiosity, do you have a guilty consciousness yourself?? If so, this could be spurring your belief he is cheating...
I said it b/c sometimes if one person cheats, the other will out of revenge. So that you would see that wasn't a factor. And no it's not all in my head. The woman from out of town told me that they'd been doing this for an extended period of time. Intimacy and all. I want to be happy. I wouldn't purposely ruin my home life. It was only when he gave me a reason did I invade his privacy. I know that's wrong to do, however i'd rather find out what's going on than come up with something that risks my health. You see? I stay b/c I love him, and want him to straighten up and fly right! lol! Yeah give me your worse. I still got that battle shell on. *smiles*
There's nothing else I can think of... After he was born, he died and was lifeless for a short period(heart defect), that's all, reaching here. He has an alcohol problem, that he THINKS isn't a problem. You guys now know my entire story. He was on life support for sometime, but that shouldn't change anything. Unless he has a new birthdate b/c of the death. I have no idea. Like I said that's really over analyzing, and reaching. He might just be a bad person. lol! From what i've read Virgo's are supposed to be the most faithful, forthcoming, blunt people ever. Maybe I just got a bad apple.
Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by Brown69
Then there was a woman out of town that he'd been sleeping with that called me sobbing b/c she found my texts to him, and thought they were going to be in a relationship. That said,"yes" I confirmed that he lies, and cheats.
Wow yeah you definitely need to leave him 😢click to expand
I have that thought all the time. It's easier said. My heart is with him. And he is fighting a break up tooth and nail. It's not easy for me to let go of past relationships. I am still very close to all my ex BF's. Crazy, I know...
Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by Brown69Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by Brown69
Then there was a woman out of town that he'd been sleeping with that called me sobbing b/c she found my texts to him, and thought they were going to be in a relationship. That said,"yes" I confirmed that he lies, and cheats.
Wow yeah you definitely need to leave him 😢
I have that thought all the time. It's easier said. My heart is with him. And he is fighting a break up tooth and nail. It's not easy for me to let go of past relationships. I am still very close to all my ex BF's. Crazy, I know...
No I can understand that, it's always easier said than done when it comes to matters of the heart. You can't just tell your heart to stop loving him even though your head tells you to get out of it.click to expand
Precisely.
Posted by LovelyScorp
and you can tell. seriously, you have to be one of the most diplomatic, straight forward virgo's on this board.
Thanks.
Cancers are prone to freaking out when their partners "take space" from them. I wonder if that plays any part here.
Posted by Brown69
*Guy's backstory*click to expand
Very disturbing... it seems he does not have good role models at all.
It is unwise to stay with him.
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by LovelyScorp
and you can tell. seriously, you have to be one of the most diplomatic, straight forward virgo's on this board.
Thanks.
Cancers are prone to freaking out when their partners "take space" from them. I wonder if that plays any part here.
Posted by Brown69
*Guy's backstory*
Very disturbing... it seems he does not have good role models at all.
It is unwise to stay with him.click to expand
I understand that Virgo's take space. mother-virgo, grandmother-virgo, ex-virgo. It hurts that you guys withdraw, but i'm accustomed to it now. It is what it is.
I wouldn't have a problem if the "space" he takes wasn't filled with another woman.
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