so im very much falling face first for this 22 year virgo male. he makes me feel so hot n cold i decided to get one of his fellow sun signs opinion before i just decide hes full of ISH. he says he loves me and wants me and has for some time but he just gets distant out of the blu usually wen hes pissed about sumthin but wen theres nothing to have an attitude about im just like so in the dark wiht y he likes to take these little convenient sabbaticals frm me as he pleases. i NO i dont smother him, i purposely give him his space just cause im the only child and i no all about ME time. he actuallie gets mad wen i leave him alone "too long" so pLEase PleAse PLEASE give me some honesty on how to step forward. i no i want him but some clues would reallie empower me right now. todays his bday by the way. i told im earlier i wanted to be with him but NO RESPONSE itll be a first if it does happen which is sooo ironic cause we have a lot of firsts yet to be explored. ud never guess weve known each other for going on 5 years. Awaiting a response...
VIRGO MEN I NEED U
Wow I can totally relate to what you're going thru.
My Virgo male takes little 'leaves' I call them. I just don't know the reasons for them.
Then all of a sudden he'll pop up & start calling & coming around again like nothing ever happened. Also if I go 2-3 days without calling or e mailing, he will call or e mail & ask "why didn't I call or e mail" LOL it's a no win situation. Though you've known yours a lot longer than I have.
I've just accepted he's what I call different (and I in no way am knocking the sign everyone) & shrug it off as his personality/character.
I'm quickly learning Virgos are very "ME" people - they come first & foremost.
My Virgo male takes little 'leaves' I call them. I just don't know the reasons for them.
Then all of a sudden he'll pop up & start calling & coming around again like nothing ever happened. Also if I go 2-3 days without calling or e mailing, he will call or e mail & ask "why didn't I call or e mail" LOL it's a no win situation. Though you've known yours a lot longer than I have.
I've just accepted he's what I call different (and I in no way am knocking the sign everyone) & shrug it off as his personality/character.
I'm quickly learning Virgos are very "ME" people - they come first & foremost.

Hi!M
I like your topic title...
My virgo ignores me today. He hangs up the phone. He always shut up communication when we had an issue, when I disagreed with him, or when he felt like he was rejected. I?m just thinking am I wrong or is he right? It?s he who is opinionated or me who is stubborn. Hard to tell. I can agree to disagree but I might have mono-vision.😢
When he's first done this to me, I couldn?t help but feel guilty. It?s like our relationship gets worse because of me. I wonder if he wants to be alone to chew the issue out OR his coolness is meant to punish me. Whatever, now I?ve learnt that the best way to handle is ignore him for a while even though how much I care. I need time for reflection alone also. I've to take care of my feeling first to stay firm and belive in my feeling towards him. I'll be clear about what to do next. Not for so long we?ll see each other again. It becomes our "love pattern". :-)
Anyway, being with him, I've learnt a lot about myself...to take risk, follow my hunch, and use my creativity in relationship. While this sounds boring for some people, it's not for me. My sole consolation is I can see a few things within him improve through time.
If you are in a relationship with him. Don't lose heart and hope. Don't expect anything. Use your intuition. Have a short break but not too long then open the communication line once again. If not, it's a tough job. Virgos love to play "hard to get". Be honest with your feeling. Do you love him as he is or because he's hard to get? Take care of yourself first then you'll know what to do next. I think virgo love self-confident people.
I know you want to share sweet moment with him on his birthday. You've already told him, nothing more you can do, sit and relax. Let him think about it. Good luck!
maymaid
I like your topic title...
My virgo ignores me today. He hangs up the phone. He always shut up communication when we had an issue, when I disagreed with him, or when he felt like he was rejected. I?m just thinking am I wrong or is he right? It?s he who is opinionated or me who is stubborn. Hard to tell. I can agree to disagree but I might have mono-vision.😢
When he's first done this to me, I couldn?t help but feel guilty. It?s like our relationship gets worse because of me. I wonder if he wants to be alone to chew the issue out OR his coolness is meant to punish me. Whatever, now I?ve learnt that the best way to handle is ignore him for a while even though how much I care. I need time for reflection alone also. I've to take care of my feeling first to stay firm and belive in my feeling towards him. I'll be clear about what to do next. Not for so long we?ll see each other again. It becomes our "love pattern". :-)
Anyway, being with him, I've learnt a lot about myself...to take risk, follow my hunch, and use my creativity in relationship. While this sounds boring for some people, it's not for me. My sole consolation is I can see a few things within him improve through time.
If you are in a relationship with him. Don't lose heart and hope. Don't expect anything. Use your intuition. Have a short break but not too long then open the communication line once again. If not, it's a tough job. Virgos love to play "hard to get". Be honest with your feeling. Do you love him as he is or because he's hard to get? Take care of yourself first then you'll know what to do next. I think virgo love self-confident people.
I know you want to share sweet moment with him on his birthday. You've already told him, nothing more you can do, sit and relax. Let him think about it. Good luck!
maymaid
"I think virgo love self-confident people."
Virgo's love SWEET people.
Virgo's love SWEET people.

Well...self-confident here doesn't mean aggressive.
All of the above - you are taking what he does personally and you shouldn't. Virgo is a nice sign - take him as he is or don't take him at all.
Been putting up with one for years now. Stop complaining about his ways - that's him. It doesn't get any better.
Been putting up with one for years now. Stop complaining about his ways - that's him. It doesn't get any better.
If you have been seeing this person for a while or a short while and you are complaining about his ways - what do you think it would be like for the long haul?
Think about it. That's the way he is.
Mines been like that in all the eight years I have known him. I read so many posts about Virgo men and I laugh - it's funny. If you are looking for some romantic figure then look else where. This man is logical and practical - and not all that keen on relationships anyway. In the area of romance and love - they get a little lost. The will appreciate someone who allows them to be themselves and someone who instinctively understands them - don't give him any drama - or you maybe on the stage alone......for them it is more about the mental stimulation. A beautiful or shape - or even emotions and sex won't hold him. If you don't get to that level of where he is -- and try to understand him, you maybe faced with him bidding you adieu.....
Think about it. That's the way he is.
Mines been like that in all the eight years I have known him. I read so many posts about Virgo men and I laugh - it's funny. If you are looking for some romantic figure then look else where. This man is logical and practical - and not all that keen on relationships anyway. In the area of romance and love - they get a little lost. The will appreciate someone who allows them to be themselves and someone who instinctively understands them - don't give him any drama - or you maybe on the stage alone......for them it is more about the mental stimulation. A beautiful or shape - or even emotions and sex won't hold him. If you don't get to that level of where he is -- and try to understand him, you maybe faced with him bidding you adieu.....
virgos love themselves
Everyone should love themselves, how else are we to know how to love others?
Everyone should love themselves, how else are we to know how to love others?

Amen to that STD??Again
If you don?t love yourself first.. How can you love others..??
This is one of those topics that triggers C.B?s ?PMS?.. lamo..! I LOVE that Virgo which makes C.B. BURNS to HELL after all these years?!
C.B will?. Never? EVER forget that Virgo..!
🙂
If you don?t love yourself first.. How can you love others..??
This is one of those topics that triggers C.B?s ?PMS?.. lamo..! I LOVE that Virgo which makes C.B. BURNS to HELL after all these years?!
C.B will?. Never? EVER forget that Virgo..!
🙂

MdotShady
And your AGE compare to his..??
And your AGE compare to his..??
" Everyone should love themselves, how else are we to know how to love others?"
Doesn't make any sence.
Doesn't make any sence.
Hi virgogotme.
I'll be the first to admit, I'm a virgo lover.
BUT
Am I a good listener..? No. As a matter of fact, I'm a terrible listener- however I have perfected the art of the "smile and nod". The short cut to keeping up with conversation is to grasp the point- then sleep through the explanation. 😛
Do I like quiet moments? PFFFT- only when I'm sleep. But any virgo who likes me in return- accepts the fact that I'm loud enough for the both of us.
As for the wheat rolls... I'll take food over flowers anyway! Who wants to watch a gift die in a vase, when instead, the gift can be slowly digested while you rub your belly with content!
I've read a few posts on the board about how critical and analytical virgos are, but very few like to talk about the softer side of virgos. In my experience- under that "cold" exterior is a big HUGGIE BEAR. Oh yeah.. your secret is out virgos-- you're snugglers (or at the very least, very snuggible). It's been my experience that given the right environment/and right person- you're perfectly content with laying in your lover's lap...and purring like a house cat (and also talking a lot.. but it's ok).
As for love.. if we're just talking about the stereotypical- analytical virgo... then we're also talking about a person who is striving for perfection.. even in LOVE. Virgos bypass all that romantic crap because they know that romance isn't love- nor does it create love. A virgo would rather you love him or her as they are- rather than through the guise of sugary-sweet romances.
Honestly- virgos ARE hard to love and understand, but if you're willing to take on the challenge, I believe the rewards are well worth it.
Thanks all.
I'll be the first to admit, I'm a virgo lover.
BUT
Am I a good listener..? No. As a matter of fact, I'm a terrible listener- however I have perfected the art of the "smile and nod". The short cut to keeping up with conversation is to grasp the point- then sleep through the explanation. 😛
Do I like quiet moments? PFFFT- only when I'm sleep. But any virgo who likes me in return- accepts the fact that I'm loud enough for the both of us.
As for the wheat rolls... I'll take food over flowers anyway! Who wants to watch a gift die in a vase, when instead, the gift can be slowly digested while you rub your belly with content!
I've read a few posts on the board about how critical and analytical virgos are, but very few like to talk about the softer side of virgos. In my experience- under that "cold" exterior is a big HUGGIE BEAR. Oh yeah.. your secret is out virgos-- you're snugglers (or at the very least, very snuggible). It's been my experience that given the right environment/and right person- you're perfectly content with laying in your lover's lap...and purring like a house cat (and also talking a lot.. but it's ok).
As for love.. if we're just talking about the stereotypical- analytical virgo... then we're also talking about a person who is striving for perfection.. even in LOVE. Virgos bypass all that romantic crap because they know that romance isn't love- nor does it create love. A virgo would rather you love him or her as they are- rather than through the guise of sugary-sweet romances.
Honestly- virgos ARE hard to love and understand, but if you're willing to take on the challenge, I believe the rewards are well worth it.
Thanks all.

Ohh wow..... WOW.. std..
Great post..!
Just one thing to adjust..!
?Virgos bypass all that romantic crap because they know that romance isn't love- nor does it create love.?
It is true that romance wont create love.. but create closeness (a chance to getting close)?.it may be a chance for love..!
Or else great post? A BIG THANK YOU LADY for your input..
🙂
Great post..!
Just one thing to adjust..!
?Virgos bypass all that romantic crap because they know that romance isn't love- nor does it create love.?
It is true that romance wont create love.. but create closeness (a chance to getting close)?.it may be a chance for love..!
Or else great post? A BIG THANK YOU LADY for your input..
🙂
Hi virgogotme.. I was just teasing with most of my post.
Virgos are virgos.. yes... but people want to call them "cold" or "un-feeling", which.. is untrue. I guess what I was trying to say is.. virgos can be passionate- virgos are loving.. and you're right, many people don't stick around long enough to see these sides.
From what I experience.. a virgo requires time. You also have to be willing to let them set the pace, while you enjoy the ride.... because you won't be pushing them into a decision that they're not ready for. ... the default answer is "I dunno.." or a flat out "No!" (if you keep pushing).
Virgos are virgos.. yes... but people want to call them "cold" or "un-feeling", which.. is untrue. I guess what I was trying to say is.. virgos can be passionate- virgos are loving.. and you're right, many people don't stick around long enough to see these sides.
From what I experience.. a virgo requires time. You also have to be willing to let them set the pace, while you enjoy the ride.... because you won't be pushing them into a decision that they're not ready for. ... the default answer is "I dunno.." or a flat out "No!" (if you keep pushing).

GOOD POSTS STD (as usual)
I have found that my father is VERY affectionate towards my mother...they have been married for 27 years and still make goo-goo eyes at each other.
BUT he rarely does it in front of us and especially since I have gotten older...the hugs I get from him are increasingly stiff like he is almost uncomfortable to give them. LOL it is funny...I know he loves me, but he would rather give me a sound piece of advice when I have a problem than a big hug. That's where my mom comes in 😉 but I APPRECIATE the type of love he gives. Not tough love at all, but logical love...if that makes sense.
As far as dating, I don't think me & a Virgo will ever mesh well but I would or could not have asked for a better father.
VIRGO'S make the best fathers!
I have found that my father is VERY affectionate towards my mother...they have been married for 27 years and still make goo-goo eyes at each other.
BUT he rarely does it in front of us and especially since I have gotten older...the hugs I get from him are increasingly stiff like he is almost uncomfortable to give them. LOL it is funny...I know he loves me, but he would rather give me a sound piece of advice when I have a problem than a big hug. That's where my mom comes in 😉 but I APPRECIATE the type of love he gives. Not tough love at all, but logical love...if that makes sense.
As far as dating, I don't think me & a Virgo will ever mesh well but I would or could not have asked for a better father.
VIRGO'S make the best fathers!
WOW
WOW that is so strange I am involved with a virgo too, and he is EXACTLY like that and the weird part is he is 22 and his birthday is also Sept 22 well what is your sign—? I've been with my virgo man for 2 years it has taken some time to figure him out but I like to look for the underlying layer of everything so try to observe him, don't make iit obviouse though, but anyway I think when we first started dating he was always HOT and COLD he admitted to me that he was afraid to get to involved and get hurt so he was always trying to contrl his feelings which i believe for Virgo's falling in love is very hard becasue it is something they cannot control So he is probably just afraid of getiing hurt and as far as the leaving him alone give him his space but always always reassure him cuz if you leave him to long he'll think your losing interest

Does anyone still need a male VIRGO opinions..??
Lmao..
Me and excess is the only male Virgo on this topic.. and its getting 23 (including this post)
Still no sign of Virgo male.. (beside me)..
lol
Lmao..
Me and excess is the only male Virgo on this topic.. and its getting 23 (including this post)
Still no sign of Virgo male.. (beside me)..
lol
TO QBONE: 18s the age of mine to his. As if that reallie matters. Im a full advocate of age being nothing but anumber and at the most a Hint to someone's real persona in the course of this whole life thing. Moving on..I took a short sabbotical and ive come back to all these updated posts. i need to update on the whole me and my virgo thing neway. so maybe itsa Sagg thing or sumthin but i have the tendency to be impatient i guess thats what it was in this case cause now things are pretty between us. lol, thats a funnie adjective to use but it fit. i guess my question now is aside from the logical and typical and what I MYSELF feel vibe wise EXPERTS PLEASE, how wood iknow if im the one for him, at least right now is what i mean. ive been knowing him for a while by the way. i think sumone asked that. since he was like 18 so thats like wat... 4 going on 5 years. its been an emotional rollercoaster is an understatement. Awaiting replies...
to LOVE SIGN: wat a small world! my guys 22 on 9.22 as well... we shood share soap operas..lol
"Does anyone still need a male VIRGO opinions..??"
Honestly Qbone, there are some very SHARP females here! Also, they do a much better job of explaining things, THEN us!
I personally think that we are very lucky to have STD, Tiamat and Virgogotme around. Love you girls!!!
Me for one, Qbone - very very stressed out, no time for answers or advice - except 2 or 3 lines - YOU?
Honestly Qbone, there are some very SHARP females here! Also, they do a much better job of explaining things, THEN us!
I personally think that we are very lucky to have STD, Tiamat and Virgogotme around. Love you girls!!!
Me for one, Qbone - very very stressed out, no time for answers or advice - except 2 or 3 lines - YOU?

Glad to see you around..🙂
I am to busy with my stuff as well.. so thanks to those ladies?and their advices..!
🙂
I am to busy with my stuff as well.. so thanks to those ladies?and their advices..!
🙂

MdotShady
Honestly lady.... nobody is expert of something when it comes to emotions and feelings..!
You?ll need to give me more data about who are you and what is your personality.. and about your V-man.
I cant say anything unless I know something about you two.. couple of lines are not enough and signs are not important as I?ve said many times before.. sign things are total BS when it comes to relationships? (it is more personal thing)?
Human to human affaire needs hard facts ..!
Give us hard facts.. and we?ll see how it will develop over the time..!!
Good luck to you..!
THE LOW DOWN:
ME: Outgoing Sillie Funloving Vibrant Young Couchpotato-Hater
HIM: WORKaholic PLANaholic PREACHaholic that LIVES seems like eternally under the Subtlety Code or sumthin...
A LITTLE HISTORY:ive known him for a few years as ive said before. we met at school and he told me id be his girlfriend if i wasnt a freshman,( i thought: TOTAL BULLtish )so from then on an unofficial relationship ensued. by unofficial i mean, we talked, chilled, kicked it and such but NEVR EVR were we sexual. not even so much as a kiss up until like last year. its ironic cause it wasnt even like there was ne pressure to do so. of course we had the occasional sextopic conversations but PURELY occasional.
I can remember years ago id ask him like about us and such and once he told me y we werent moving forward reallie was cause i wasnt ready for him and he knew that so he just had me in his company until i was or wen he thought i wood be.
It started as just like this little schoolboy crush i had for him or sumthin and reallie i kinda figured he was like mr playa playa so i never honestly took him serously. so years of on and off and on and off and on and off again and on again socializing mostly starting after he graduated. that was wen we like separated from each others company on a regular basis for the first time.
ROUGHLY: after the first year of us being together lots, up until last year, twas on and off again as i said usuallie cause id say sumthin to piss him off or vice versa so then wed take like little leaves from each other or sumthin, months pass i get a call or a visit or vice versa and then were ON again. Cause im not reallie the run after you type and neither is he. i never wanted himt o feel like i was trying to smother him so i kep tmy distance. funnie how wen i told him how i felt about his he started laughing tellin me i was crazie if i thought i was smotherin him and id never have to stalk him neway .so at nerate fast forward about 2 years up to last year. it seems these Little feelings i had for him mutated into me not being able to Not think about him so i started calling myself gonna tell him that. but i was reallie chilidish in my attempts to do so. reallie i was scared cause i didnt think hed feel the same way and i didnt wanna make an @ $ $ out of myself, etc so every time id try to come out with sumthin hed be like "Stop beatin around the bush just say it" "All this playin i dont have time for" i swear if i had a bill for every time i heard these words from him id be on the run. Soo.... i suddenly get the words " I love u" from him n i just hate him for it cause i figure hes just trying to like mac me or sumthin and then he gets royally heated wen i dont believe him. i said he never gave me a reason to and He says i never gave him a reason to take me seroiusly. he says: I dont know nething but wat u say. Im no mind reader. u cant expect me to read your mind. I say: is he serious?? no he cant be. its this game tish again. hes tryin to run game on me. so let all my homies tell it:twas over years ago and no looking back but i never reallie Felt like it was so i couldnt just let it go.. i dunno why but sumthin wouldnt let me. so some months back i start in on the WHERE ARE WE conversation and hes like "we shouldve been talked about this." "u nevr wanted to talk about this before." "see how u talking to me? ive ben tryin to talk to u like this and it just goes in one ear and out the window." "Im like, i cant believe u feel llike that, idont feel like that at all." for some reason hed be thinking im just trying to play with his emotions or sumthin so up until recently i never reallie CAME STRAIGHT OUT WITH NETHING but now that i have, things have ben slightly different between us. in a good way though. i know hes reallie crazie like about other dudes talking to me but ive been like dampened with this socializing syndrome since like birth. ever since i was old enuff to remember seems like ive ben runnin
ME: Outgoing Sillie Funloving Vibrant Young Couchpotato-Hater
HIM: WORKaholic PLANaholic PREACHaholic that LIVES seems like eternally under the Subtlety Code or sumthin...
A LITTLE HISTORY:ive known him for a few years as ive said before. we met at school and he told me id be his girlfriend if i wasnt a freshman,( i thought: TOTAL BULLtish )so from then on an unofficial relationship ensued. by unofficial i mean, we talked, chilled, kicked it and such but NEVR EVR were we sexual. not even so much as a kiss up until like last year. its ironic cause it wasnt even like there was ne pressure to do so. of course we had the occasional sextopic conversations but PURELY occasional.
I can remember years ago id ask him like about us and such and once he told me y we werent moving forward reallie was cause i wasnt ready for him and he knew that so he just had me in his company until i was or wen he thought i wood be.
It started as just like this little schoolboy crush i had for him or sumthin and reallie i kinda figured he was like mr playa playa so i never honestly took him serously. so years of on and off and on and off and on and off again and on again socializing mostly starting after he graduated. that was wen we like separated from each others company on a regular basis for the first time.
ROUGHLY: after the first year of us being together lots, up until last year, twas on and off again as i said usuallie cause id say sumthin to piss him off or vice versa so then wed take like little leaves from each other or sumthin, months pass i get a call or a visit or vice versa and then were ON again. Cause im not reallie the run after you type and neither is he. i never wanted himt o feel like i was trying to smother him so i kep tmy distance. funnie how wen i told him how i felt about his he started laughing tellin me i was crazie if i thought i was smotherin him and id never have to stalk him neway .so at nerate fast forward about 2 years up to last year. it seems these Little feelings i had for him mutated into me not being able to Not think about him so i started calling myself gonna tell him that. but i was reallie chilidish in my attempts to do so. reallie i was scared cause i didnt think hed feel the same way and i didnt wanna make an @ $ $ out of myself, etc so every time id try to come out with sumthin hed be like "Stop beatin around the bush just say it" "All this playin i dont have time for" i swear if i had a bill for every time i heard these words from him id be on the run. Soo.... i suddenly get the words " I love u" from him n i just hate him for it cause i figure hes just trying to like mac me or sumthin and then he gets royally heated wen i dont believe him. i said he never gave me a reason to and He says i never gave him a reason to take me seroiusly. he says: I dont know nething but wat u say. Im no mind reader. u cant expect me to read your mind. I say: is he serious?? no he cant be. its this game tish again. hes tryin to run game on me. so let all my homies tell it:twas over years ago and no looking back but i never reallie Felt like it was so i couldnt just let it go.. i dunno why but sumthin wouldnt let me. so some months back i start in on the WHERE ARE WE conversation and hes like "we shouldve been talked about this." "u nevr wanted to talk about this before." "see how u talking to me? ive ben tryin to talk to u like this and it just goes in one ear and out the window." "Im like, i cant believe u feel llike that, idont feel like that at all." for some reason hed be thinking im just trying to play with his emotions or sumthin so up until recently i never reallie CAME STRAIGHT OUT WITH NETHING but now that i have, things have ben slightly different between us. in a good way though. i know hes reallie crazie like about other dudes talking to me but ive been like dampened with this socializing syndrome since like birth. ever since i was old enuff to remember seems like ive ben runnin
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