Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
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Posted by Damnata
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.click to expand
Posted by spurI don't know why you are operating off the assumption love is unconditional. Love IS conditional or it means nothing.Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.
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Posted by DamnataThat isn't logical. Love isn't logical to begin with. Trying to apply logic to an illogical emotion isn't valid. Adding conditions like: You must have money or make at least $ 50,000 blah blah. This isn't love. That is just bullshit. Buying something expensive for someone. Again this isn't love that is bullshit. Love is admiration/affection not materialistic. So superficial things as conditions are not valid love. They are fake, and someone's emotional needs as a condition for love just makes that person a terrible person that they cannot handle it. That's on you not on them. They are not accepted by people for who they are or the struggles they go through? That is not their fault. So to deny a person like this love as a person who probably needs it the most is just flat out disgusting.Posted by spurI don't know why you are operating off the assumption love is unconditional. Love IS conditional or it means nothing.Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.
Whenever I see people go about unconditional love, I roll my eyes hard. It's hypocrisy. Either they have no clue what that term implies or the consequences of it or they just lived a life where they had opinions on relationships and love from the outside and not from within a partnership. Or they have their own definition of the term.
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Posted by spurNo idea wtf you're on about . To deny a person love is not flat out disgusting, it's absolutely natural. Welcome to a world where people don't always get what they want. Population: 6 billion. What is absolutely disgusting is to claim unconditional love. Everything is applied on a selective basis and that's how everyone operates.Posted by DamnataThat isn't logical. Love isn't logical to begin with. Trying to apply logic to an illogical emotion isn't valid. Adding conditions like: You must have money or make at least $ 50,000 blah blah. This isn't love. That is just bullshit. Buying something expensive for someone. Again this isn't love that is bullshit. Love is admiration/affection not materialistic. So superficial things as conditions are not valid love. They are fake, and someone's emotional needs as a condition for love just makes that person a terrible person that they cannot handle it. That's on you not on them. They are not accepted by people for who they are or the struggles they go through? That is not their fault. So to deny a person like this love as a person who probably needs it the most is just flat out disgusting.Posted by spurI don't know why you are operating off the assumption love is unconditional. Love IS conditional or it means nothing.Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.
Whenever I see people go about unconditional love, I roll my eyes hard. It's hypocrisy. Either they have no clue what that term implies or the consequences of it or they just lived a life where they had opinions on relationships and love from the outside and not from within a partnership. Or they have their own definition of the term.
My mom loves me unconditionally. I can be angry at her and she will always support me no matter what. That just doesn't happen, but my point is she will never not love me. That is unconditional. I can do almost anything, and yes it is dangerous but that is real love.
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Posted by SunsetvirgoHer help is amazing. So practical and she listens.
I don't like projects.
This Taurus guy I knew was a "project" and it was tiring, I had to stop. He didn't want to grow or even get better.
"Fixing" is a strong word too. I don't really think you can truly fix anyone, they fix themselves by accepting your help or doing it themselves. So essentially, they're the only ones who can help themselves.
I do, however, like when something I ordinarily do, inspires someone.
Even if they don't tell me it inspires them, maybe the twinkle in their eye or how they'll suddenly listen more intently to what I'm saying will show me that I've inspired them. Or maybe I'll start to see them copying that certain thing, ever so subtly.
I think it's adorable actually.
Posted by DamnataPosted by spurNo idea wtf you're on about . To deny a person love is not flat out disgusting, it's absolutely natural. Welcome to a world where people don't always get what they want. Population: 6 billion. What is absolutely disgusting is to claim unconditional love. Everything is applied on a selective basis and that's how everyone operates.Posted by DamnataThat isn't logical. Love isn't logical to begin with. Trying to apply logic to an illogical emotion isn't valid. Adding conditions like: You must have money or make at least $ 50,000 blah blah. This isn't love. That is just bullshit. Buying something expensive for someone. Again this isn't love that is bullshit. Love is admiration/affection not materialistic. So superficial things as conditions are not valid love. They are fake, and someone's emotional needs as a condition for love just makes that person a terrible person that they cannot handle it. That's on you not on them. They are not accepted by people for who they are or the struggles they go through? That is not their fault. So to deny a person like this love as a person who probably needs it the most is just flat out disgusting.Posted by spurI don't know why you are operating off the assumption love is unconditional. Love IS conditional or it means nothing.Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.
Whenever I see people go about unconditional love, I roll my eyes hard. It's hypocrisy. Either they have no clue what that term implies or the consequences of it or they just lived a life where they had opinions on relationships and love from the outside and not from within a partnership. Or they have their own definition of the term.
My mom loves me unconditionally. I can be angry at her and she will always support me no matter what. That just doesn't happen, but my point is she will never not love me. That is unconditional. I can do almost anything, and yes it is dangerous but that is real love.
Oh tell me, deluded one. If love is unconditional and your partner cheats on you or beats you up, you'll stay there and put up with it right? Because if you don't, then you're an absolute hypocrite cuz it means your love was tied to the condition of fidelity and bodily health. But oh noes, we unconditional up in this bitch.
As for parent - child connection, as close as that gets it is still not unconditional. You know why? Because it is PARENT - CHILD aka the condition for that bond to operate is for them to be in that dynamic as "parent" and "child", which...surprise, is not unconditional because it is a condition.
The only unconditional devotion to anything is towards a cause if it applies, when someone will transgress everything for it. Not towards people. Any claim otherwise is just cheap lip service.
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Posted by yupvirgooI suppose it depends on what you define love as too to an extent. To me love can be a smile, a conversation. It doesn't have to be romantic love.Posted by DamnataHmm... there is always something that is being met when a person stays with someone no matter how horrible they seem to most other people. Because really, who would stay with someone horrible when there isn't at least one thing someone just can't let go off? In many cases, it's either sex or one's stubborn nature.Posted by spurNo idea wtf you're on about . To deny a person love is not flat out disgusting, it's absolutely natural. Welcome to a world where people don't always get what they want. Population: 6 billion. What is absolutely disgusting is to claim unconditional love. Everything is applied on a selective basis and that's how everyone operates.Posted by DamnataThat isn't logical. Love isn't logical to begin with. Trying to apply logic to an illogical emotion isn't valid. Adding conditions like: You must have money or make at least $ 50,000 blah blah. This isn't love. That is just bullshit. Buying something expensive for someone. Again this isn't love that is bullshit. Love is admiration/affection not materialistic. So superficial things as conditions are not valid love. They are fake, and someone's emotional needs as a condition for love just makes that person a terrible person that they cannot handle it. That's on you not on them. They are not accepted by people for who they are or the struggles they go through? That is not their fault. So to deny a person like this love as a person who probably needs it the most is just flat out disgusting.Posted by spurI don't know why you are operating off the assumption love is unconditional. Love IS conditional or it means nothing.Posted by DamnataSo your love is conditional? Two people helping each other is the whole definition of love to begin with. Soon as you apply a condition it is not longer true, and therefore no longer unconditional love. Everyone "needs" something at some point or another. Some are better equip to handle it on their own, but that to me is not logical.
First part of your question isn't up my alley, I am not into needy men, nor into fixing men. But this part...Posted by bostongigi....if it's inspiring someone to be their best? (by their own standards)
How do you feel when your service brings out the best in a guy?
I'd be on cloud nine to be honest.
I've been lucky enough to be around some people who made me bloom. None of them set out to do it, I don't set out to do it either. But if it happens in the process then it's like pay it forward to me. It makes a world of difference because love/lust/like alone don't stir that deep. Admiring someone does it and it's something I don't have control over within me.
So yeah, jackpot.
Whenever I see people go about unconditional love, I roll my eyes hard. It's hypocrisy. Either they have no clue what that term implies or the consequences of it or they just lived a life where they had opinions on relationships and love from the outside and not from within a partnership. Or they have their own definition of the term.
My mom loves me unconditionally. I can be angry at her and she will always support me no matter what. That just doesn't happen, but my point is she will never not love me. That is unconditional. I can do almost anything, and yes it is dangerous but that is real love.
Oh tell me, deluded one. If love is unconditional and your partner cheats on you or beats you up, you'll stay there and put up with it right? Because if you don't, then you're an absolute hypocrite cuz it means your love was tied to the condition of fidelity and bodily health. But oh noes, we unconditional up in this bitch.
As for parent - child connection, as close as that gets it is still not unconditional. You know why? Because it is PARENT - CHILD aka the condition for that bond to operate is for them to be in that dynamic as "parent" and "child", which...surprise, is not unconditional because it is a condition.
The only unconditional devotion to anything is towards a cause if it applies, when someone will transgress everything for it. Not towards people. Any claim otherwise is just cheap lip service.
This is why I also think that love is conditional.
Even the supposedly "unconditional" ones that seem so holy and charitable provides something for one's psyche. It must always satisfy or feed something inside someone. There is always something.
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