Who do you think is the most successful or least successful? why?
Which Earth sign wins in the game of Life?
Definitely between Cap and Virgo.
Virgo's are good at everything they do, and we have the skills to master it easily. Caps are just born with a buisness mind, and have the skills to manage people/business.
Goes likes this... CEO-Cap, Operation Manager/Supervisor-Virgo, Employee-Taurus. Funny thing is a lot people I know have V-bosses...
Back to question, Virgo and Cap, I would say probably both the win the game....tie? Can I do that lol.
Virgo's are good at everything they do, and we have the skills to master it easily. Caps are just born with a buisness mind, and have the skills to manage people/business.
Goes likes this... CEO-Cap, Operation Manager/Supervisor-Virgo, Employee-Taurus. Funny thing is a lot people I know have V-bosses...
Back to question, Virgo and Cap, I would say probably both the win the game....tie? Can I do that lol.
Looks like Vcharm equated success in life, as Career success ... as if your profession is the definitive value for life
And then you got a person who agrees with it
Interesting ......
How can this be comparative until the meaning of "life" has been established to know if one is a success?
And then you got a person who agrees with it
Interesting ......
How can this be comparative until the meaning of "life" has been established to know if one is a success?
Is there an answer? Does one exist?
...... only the closed mind is certain ......
...... only the closed mind is certain ......
Posted by P-Angel
Is there an answer? Does one exist?
...... only the closed mind is certain ......
I think it does exist, it's how YOU define/make of it.
Yes, to me, I think "winning at life" is more directed towards a type of buisness/wealth success. Perhaps it has to do with me growing up with family owned businesses, so that feeling of owning something and making it successful does make me feel like "I win". I had to work for it of course, started out just as an employee, then my parents taught me the basics of operating a business, than I went to college and got my business degree.
Plus this is just a horoscope forum, and this topic was probably just for entertainment, why are you taking it so seriously on what I wrote? Quit acting like Socrates, and just give your opinion to the girl.
We can all agree they're different kinds of success. I think everyone on this thread has underestimated Taurus' abilities. We aren't known as the zodiac powerhouse for nothing. Some famous/infamous Taurean individuals are ...
Michael Moore
Immanuel Kant
Niccolo Machiavelli
Bertrand Russell
Socrates
Karl Marx
Nikolai Lenin
Saddam Hussein
How do you explain their contribution to society.
Michael Moore
Immanuel Kant
Niccolo Machiavelli
Bertrand Russell
Socrates
Karl Marx
Nikolai Lenin
Saddam Hussein
How do you explain their contribution to society.
I tend to think of Taurus as the "work hard, play hard" type haha.
Posted by Vcharm
Virgo's are good at everything they do, and we have the skills to master it easily.
Posted by VenusStar
I think everyone on this thread has underestimated Taurus' abilities. We aren't known as the zodiac powerhouse for nothing.
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I thought this thread was about winning in life ..... now I realize it only exists so people can brag about themselves being the better.
My bad ...
@P-Angel, I'm definitely not bragging. I thought it was interesting that everyone gravitated towards Capricorn and Virgo as if Taurus was not even in the running.
In my personal life many of the Capricorns were able to acquire material possessions to make themselves appear successful to those around them. (i.e. have really expensive clothes and no money in the back, own a building but the building isn't worth buttkiss, or own a car but they have to skip regular meals to keep up with the payments). When the Capricorn is focused on their money or things they're typically not thinking about their families unless they want to do something that makes them "look" good to the family.
Virgos tend to work hard and make really good decisions when it comes to their money. In my experience the Virgo's family life suffers because he/she works so much.
In my personal life many of the Capricorns were able to acquire material possessions to make themselves appear successful to those around them. (i.e. have really expensive clothes and no money in the back, own a building but the building isn't worth buttkiss, or own a car but they have to skip regular meals to keep up with the payments). When the Capricorn is focused on their money or things they're typically not thinking about their families unless they want to do something that makes them "look" good to the family.
Virgos tend to work hard and make really good decisions when it comes to their money. In my experience the Virgo's family life suffers because he/she works so much.
Who's actions are going to get them into Heaven easier? That's the one that wins.
Posted by P-AngelPosted by Vcharm
Virgo's are good at everything they do, and we have the skills to master it easily.
Posted by VenusStar
I think everyone on this thread has underestimated Taurus' abilities. We aren't known as the zodiac powerhouse for nothing.
I thought this thread was about winning in life ..... now I realize it only exists so people can brag about themselves being the better.
My bad ...click to expand
What's wrong with a little what-what, you need to hang around Leos, and Sags more, get that self-worth up!
Posted by VenusStar
When the Capricorn is focused on their money or things they're typically not thinking about their families unless they want to do something that makes them "look" good to the family.
I have very little, if any, actual experience living closely amongst Capricorns, so I can't veryify or argue this ... however, what you have described above is pure "Bull", through and through .... because they are so "stuck" to their personal belongings, they tend to put on a show when in front of other people to hide their hoarde.
And I have decades of first hand experience living amongst two Bonvines, beautiful as they are/were, but, terrible, insufferable when caught up in their ego.
Posted by VenusStar
Virgos tend to work hard and make really good decisions when it comes to their money. In my experience the Virgo's family life suffers because he/she works so much.
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And I can't verify what you said conclusively .... and I also have experience living with the Virgo intent, closely, for decades.
1. Virgos work hard, but, not as a means of career-mind, rather, from a greedy mind ... though, how they "act" with generosities differs greatly, and they become extremely giving ... but, not the mindset that is present while working to make this money. The Virgo is naturally very stingy when they measure how hard they worked, against how they are spending. Not necessarily frugile as much as chinzy.
For example: that person at the restaurant sitting next to you who grumbled about having to leave a tip, and then when forced to, tries to put a quarter on the table ... it's highly probable that person was a Virgo.
Posted by VenusStar
Virgos tend to work hard and make really good decisions when it comes to their money. In my experience the Virgo's family life suffers because he/she works so much.
2. Thier decision on spending money factors in the word, "cheap", and will always look for a way out of spending, but, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a good decision. Virgos have no empathy, so they cannot look at another and "feel" anything ... they rationalize everything. Sometimes, a person just needs to give their money out as a GIFT, and NOT lose their fucking minds at the thought of it not coming back.
Virgo doesn't quite get the concept of .... if you are giving someone something, and calling it from the heart .. then there can't be strings attached to how generous of a heart they have in return, and then get pissy when they then "feel" taken for granted.
To give from true generosity .. doesn't expect in return ... and that concept is void in the Virgo. That's why they ALWAYS feel taken advantage of right after they have given. They aren't giving to you because they "feel" your plight, because without empathy, they cannot ... they are giving to you because they have a conscience and have manners and believe it is the right thing to do. So, if this giving isnt' based on feelings, then naturally they will get their panties wadded up their ass when like kind isn't the response from the gift because they never actually "felt" any emotions while proclaiming it to be from the heart.
Posted by VenusStar
In my experience the Virgo's family life suffers because he/she works so much.
I also disagree with this one.
Looks like none of my exprience matches yours.
I am such a close family member to a Virgo, that I am the immediate next of kin and make decisions about/for the Virgo should he be rendered incapacitated .... and I can attest as being the direct recipient of the Virgo's family life that there hasn't been any suffering relative to his need to work alot.
I would suspect that if a person is needy for attention, then that person might be able to relate "suffers" to the equation, but, then that doesn't really have to do with the Virgo person of this relationship, it has to do with the other one who is a insecure and needy, and would likely feel suffering with any partner.
Also, with Capricorns .. I like how insightful and mature they are. That might be enough to get my vote out of the three earthlings ... though, the Taurus tenacity is mind blowing and I like that too.
What I said is actually the truth, and it doesn't matter if Virgos come in here and attempt to make me look bad and saying they feel sorry for me ... because thier insults don't change the truth.
A Virgo only gives to another because they think it is the right thing to do, but, never gives to another because of the emotional plight the person is going through because they cannot feel empathy for another.
This is why they ALWAYS feel taken advantage of. And not just the giving of things .. the giving of everything.
You all want to know why you can't ever make it with your Virgo? No matter how hard you try, no matter how much effort you put in, you still can't get a return on the Virgo?
because they can only feel themselves ... test it out, you'll see ... they aren't responding to you, according to your hearts needs, they are responding according to their needs ... because they lack empathy
A Virgo only gives to another because they think it is the right thing to do, but, never gives to another because of the emotional plight the person is going through because they cannot feel empathy for another.
This is why they ALWAYS feel taken advantage of. And not just the giving of things .. the giving of everything.
You all want to know why you can't ever make it with your Virgo? No matter how hard you try, no matter how much effort you put in, you still can't get a return on the Virgo?
because they can only feel themselves ... test it out, you'll see ... they aren't responding to you, according to your hearts needs, they are responding according to their needs ... because they lack empathy
Posted by msmarilynmanson
the virgo i talk to now seems really empathetic. i wonder if there is a big difference between aug and sept? the sept def fits p angels description.
First of all, you don't have a Virgo, nor do you have any experience in being in a relationship with one. You can only base your opinion off of the dance of attracting - which as a grown up, you should be able to realize that during that phase, a person is purposely trying make impressions, and not really showing their true character.
or perhaps you are a child, and have no clue what I just said.
Secondly, my husband was born in August
All these people praising a Pisces to "figure" out a Virgo... Which is our complete opposite! You guys know that Virgo/Pisces bring out the worst in each other, neither can please the other, both are never happy together, so of course P-Angle will say negative things about Virgos. Hey, your more than welcome to believe in a day-dreaming, unrealistic fishy. I could do the same thing about Pisces, and then tell you it's the "truth" no mater what they say, and I'll wait for the dumb gullible ones to take my side.
Posted by Vcharm
I could do the same thing about Pisces, and then tell you it's the "truth" no mater what they say, and I'll wait for the dumb gullible ones to take my side.
You're such an idiot.
Yes, make a further fool out of yourself by making more idle threats of going to target innocent people because I pissed you off .... here we see another negative Virgo trait, thanks to Vcharm presenting to us.
Once they take something personally .... they lose all sense of logic or practical reasoning.
What I find hilarious is that only the Virgos measure it to be bad .. and isnt' that interesting.
So, I state qualities of the Virgo, according to my experience, and never once say I don't like it, or that it's horrible, or that they're so fucked up for having that quality.
It's never tagged as being a bad quality.
Until the Virgo, itself, comes in here to place that bad label on it, and then become accusatory in proclaiming that someone else did it to them.
This quality is something every person needs to see, because as sure as the sun rises in the east, if they relate with a Virgo .... this passive/aggressiveness will be present often
So, I state qualities of the Virgo, according to my experience, and never once say I don't like it, or that it's horrible, or that they're so fucked up for having that quality.
It's never tagged as being a bad quality.
Until the Virgo, itself, comes in here to place that bad label on it, and then become accusatory in proclaiming that someone else did it to them.
This quality is something every person needs to see, because as sure as the sun rises in the east, if they relate with a Virgo .... this passive/aggressiveness will be present often
Posted by P-Angel
.... and I also have experience living with the Virgo intent, closely, for decades.
Ok, Vcharm, since your panties got wadded up your ass at a moments realization that you have emotions, and so then immediately lost control of your senses and took personally anything that even resembled it might mean you ..... I have this quote above for you.
Now, if you think you are able to think now instead of react to uncontrolled emotions, I want you to look at your life, look at your people ... look around for me. Do you see me anywhere?
No?
good
Now, go back to where I was stating that I was talking from my experience, now put two and two together, you know the part about where I'm not anywhere in your life, so the experience I was talking about wasn't YOU.
:::: claps hands ::::
Very good, now here's a cookie
Posted by msmarilynmansonPosted by P-AngelPosted by msmarilynmanson
the virgo i talk to now seems really empathetic. i wonder if there is a big difference between aug and sept? the sept def fits p angels description.
First of all, you don't have a Virgo, nor do you have any experience in being in a relationship with one. You can only base your opinion off of the dance of attracting - which as a grown up, you should be able to realize that during that phase, a person is purposely trying make impressions, and not really showing their true character.
or perhaps you are a child, and have no clue what I just said.
Secondly, my husband was born in August
whoa whoa whoa simmer down there miss p, no one was arguing with u.click to expand
I wasn't simmered up, to have be simmered down .... you made a statement about how a Virgo seems to you, to whom you don't know and at this moment of the beginning of attractions, you aren't seeing the real person, rather only seeing what impression he is attempting to make for the purpose of attracting you.
And therefore, since you don't have any actual experience relating with a Virgo, what you said isn't credible.
If you want to view that as argueing, then be my guest ..... that's your negative take on it, for I never stated anything that even resembles that I desire to argue.
You own your own negative and violent viewpoint and are not allowed to put that label on me.
Virgo and emotions... I've noticed this trend with you, frankly, I don't have the time or energy to deal with your over-the-top elaborate post. Its friday, I'm going out, and you can wait by your computer to quote another user post. All I will say is we're all humans, we all get angry and sometimes act on the moment of frustration, when we should have stepped back and thought about it more - this is a basic human emotion. To say this is specifically a Virgo emotion trait is just.... Idiotic =\
Enjoy your Friday P, I know I will. Thanks for the cookie, but next time make it butterscotch, it's my favorite.
Enjoy your Friday P, I know I will. Thanks for the cookie, but next time make it butterscotch, it's my favorite.
Im not sure why any of this matters, but it all depends on your definition of "winning."
I just finished a training class lead by a 53yo Virgo who inspired all of us in that short amount of time. He is a christian that is VERY into success, so he talked a lot about how blessed he is and how his whole purpose for wanting wealth is to help others, which I am the same.
He drives a Benz, owns a realestate company, and he's coming out with a book next month...plus he's only been at the job a few yrs(started part time for the benifits, and now he's making 6-figures as a manager).
What I learned and already know about Virgos is that they are into details, very smart and most importantly good with people. He is VERY marketable, so is my lazy Virgo sister. That gives them the edge. My sister can make herself like by ANYONE.
In terms of wealth Virgos win hands down. My sis doesnt care about being "seen" or "known" either.
Now with Capricorns, we are different. Capricorns, imo, are not about excessive amounts of money. We are not as naturally skilled with people imho and we are a bit abrasive, so we have a tendancy to rub people the wrong way, which can lead to fewer connections. This is not a bad or good thing...it is what it is, but Capricorn ambitions seem to be slightly different. Imo, like truecap mentioned about heaven, things like that stay on our conscious. Being a billionaire is not the goal but being known as the g.o.a.t is. We want to be the best ever in that particular lane, PLUS we desire to create our own lanes. We want our paths to be OUR paths, which takes ALOT of tuning out and ALOT of looking within. We are ambitious in that way..wanting to be the best, wanting to walk in a parallel line with heaven and earth, and wanting to make sure it comes 100% from within. Thats the most important.
I dont know too much about Taurus honestly. Like I dont have a lot of Taurus family members etc, but I do think Taurus is the most solid as far as "this is me" good or bad.
I just finished a training class lead by a 53yo Virgo who inspired all of us in that short amount of time. He is a christian that is VERY into success, so he talked a lot about how blessed he is and how his whole purpose for wanting wealth is to help others, which I am the same.
He drives a Benz, owns a realestate company, and he's coming out with a book next month...plus he's only been at the job a few yrs(started part time for the benifits, and now he's making 6-figures as a manager).
What I learned and already know about Virgos is that they are into details, very smart and most importantly good with people. He is VERY marketable, so is my lazy Virgo sister. That gives them the edge. My sister can make herself like by ANYONE.
In terms of wealth Virgos win hands down. My sis doesnt care about being "seen" or "known" either.
Now with Capricorns, we are different. Capricorns, imo, are not about excessive amounts of money. We are not as naturally skilled with people imho and we are a bit abrasive, so we have a tendancy to rub people the wrong way, which can lead to fewer connections. This is not a bad or good thing...it is what it is, but Capricorn ambitions seem to be slightly different. Imo, like truecap mentioned about heaven, things like that stay on our conscious. Being a billionaire is not the goal but being known as the g.o.a.t is. We want to be the best ever in that particular lane, PLUS we desire to create our own lanes. We want our paths to be OUR paths, which takes ALOT of tuning out and ALOT of looking within. We are ambitious in that way..wanting to be the best, wanting to walk in a parallel line with heaven and earth, and wanting to make sure it comes 100% from within. Thats the most important.
I dont know too much about Taurus honestly. Like I dont have a lot of Taurus family members etc, but I do think Taurus is the most solid as far as "this is me" good or bad.
Posted by msmarilynmanson
i respect your opinion p angel. don't start shit with me where their isnt any.
In reality, you attempted to start shit with me by telling me to simmer down, which is a condenscending remark. This remark you made came after me stating that you proclaimed to know the character of a Virgo to whom you have only engaged in the initial flirts of attraction, and I was pointing out that you have no basis to make your assessment, since during the throws of attraction, the people involved present themselves with impressions, rather than their true selves.
It is apparent that you cannot handle being wrong, and cannot handle being told you made a judgement without life experience and you cannot hangle that ... so you there attempt to make it sound like I want to start shit with you, or argue with you .... when in reality, neither of those took place, and what really happened is that you cannot handle being told you're wrong.
It's really not my problem that you are so shallow that you cannot fathom past the nose on your face
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