Why is my topic not appearing on the Taurus forum?

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So here below is the original post but there have been updates since then....



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Hello. Warning, this is going to be be fairly long. Please bear with me.

Me: Pisces

Venus in Pisces,

Moon in Capricorn,

Mars in Virgo

Mercury in Aquarius

Him: Taurus, May 7,

Venus in Taurus,

Moo in Cancer,

Mars in Aries,

Mercury in Aries

I'm 28, he's 27.

We met about six months ago at a music festival I went to with my friends. Later, we found out we go to the same gym. We clicked, there was crazy chemistry between us. He later asked me out, and we've been dating for two months. The first thing I noticed was that he wasn't fond of texting. I text a lot, so I was a bit confused when he would never reply to my messages. When I asked about it, he said he'd rather we just talk over the phone. So I got on with the programme.

Our conversations over the phone don't take long, only to arrange dates etc, but when we're face-to- face, we can talk for hours. I realized that's the way he is, (I think most Taurus are that way,) and I'm used to this now. I'm not demanding. I give him his space and he gives me mine. Because we're both busy, we can spend the whole week without contacting each other, except for a couple of calls (from him) and a couple of texts from me to fix a date. We then get to see each other once or twice during the weekend, and it's magical between us. Despite the crazy connection, we haven't slept together, yet! We've kissed, hugged, he's very sensual and I love it. He can take hours to explore my naked body. This was a shock to me the first time Big Grin I've never experienced something like this, as in a man who takes his time. It's nothing like being with an intense Scorpio. It's actually so... heavenly smile smile

Here comes the part where I need your advice, the part that confuses me. He recently got promoted to a new position, which requires him to work crazy long hours all week, including weekends, as some sort of probation period. We went out last weekend, (Friday) and he told me the next three weeks are going to be heavy with work for him. I then suggested that it'd probably be best if we don't see each other. I wouldn't mind. I wanted him to focus more on his work first. I've also a trip coming in two weeks, so I thought that'd keep me occupied. He said no way, that he wasn't okay with the idea of us not seeing each other for the next three weeks (well excluding the trip week). He also wanted to see me on Sunday (last week) after work. I called him on Sunday and got to voicemail. He usually calls me back when that happens, but didn't this time. So I just assumed he was surely too tired and needed a break. I then texted him this last Wednesday to suggest a place we could go this weekend. No reply. No call back. I've called him again yesterday, and later sent a text asking if he was okay but there was still no answer.

I'm confused by the behavior. I'm worried too. He always calls me back when I call him or when I text to suggest a place to go. I don't want to double of triple text him, or go to this place to check if he's okay, and come off as deranged or clingy. I'm not like that. I know he's extremely busy at work but the sudden silence puzzles me. I'm totally lost. Why suggest that we continue seeing each other during the busiest weeks in his career, and then behave in such manner? A simple call to let me know he's okay would suffice and would be considerate, right?

I don't know if I've been ghosted. As far as I'm concerned, we had a wonderful time on our last date. I don't think I did anything wrong. The issue is definitely with him. I thought about sending him an email, with a sexy picture of me dressed in lingerie -- he likes when I send those to him smile, to tell him what he's missed this weekend, and that I hope he's okay, and not literally buried under a pile of heavy files, lol. One of my best friends, (she's Aquarius) fiercely told me (lol, she's very annoyed with my guy) not to send any email, no pictures to reward his inconsiderate behavior, lol. She told me to delete and block his number , to make myself scarce and focus on me, and look forward to going on our trip in two weeks. Is she right? Is it what I need to do? I'd just love to know how to proceed.

I really like him. I think we've got a good thing, but his sudden silence saddens and shocks me. I can't tell whether he's lost interest in me, or work has taken over his life so much that he can barely pick up the phone to call me. Is this even normal behavior for Taurus men or women? But why not call to tell people who care about you that you are okay? It just doesn't make any sense to me. I feel It's really selfish of him to do that, and I'd like to tell him this, maybe in an email, sans picture, of course.

Or shall I just go in silent mode and just let him miss me and come to me when he's ready? Thanks for reading this, and thanks in advance for your thoughts, Taureans.
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The original post was posted nearly two weeks ago and below here is the update I posted in my other thread on Monday:



So, here's a small update. I saw the Taurus at our gym today, just by chance. I didn't even think he'd be there. He hasn't come around the same time as me lately. He's only been able to work out during his lunch time, apparently, but he's managed to make it this evening.

He looked surprised to see me, but then smiled and gave me a hug. I could however feel that strange frost between us. It was weird. We haven't seen each other for nearly three weeks and I mentioned that. He seemed shocked about it, and he apologised for not being in touch since he's been swamped. He asked me why I hadn't called. I mentioned the texts and missed calls, and he then replied that he just didn't have the chance to look at all the texts and respond to all missed calls he got, including those of his relatives. He added that his mum was in town this week, and he didn't even get to see her because he was working.

He said he didn't want me to think he was ignoring me, but just extremely busy with work. He then suggested that we meet this coming Thursday, but wasn't sure what time he'd be finishing work, and, he'd have his trip to get ready for. He's going on vacation From Friday for the next ten days. I could sense that he felt under some sort of pressure to make it up to me, so, I told him I'll see him when he's back from his vacation. But he still looked as though he wasn't sure he'd be able to see me once he's back, despite his attempts to arrange a date after his and my return from our respective vacations. He was still talking not being sure how busy work will be etc... , so, I said, ''you know what? Let's see how it goes when we're back. Then we'll take it from there.' 'Okay,'' he said. He looked relieved when he said it. He waved and then left.

Our first interaction after nearly three weeks left me sad and confused somehow. I was happy to see him and to hear his voice after such a long time, but like I said before, there was this sort of wall between us. I think, maybe the spark has died. Three weeks without him communicating with me must have created the rift between us, I guess? Furthermore, there will be another ten days apart... I'm wondering whether he'd eventually get to see my texts and missed calls from the past weeks while away as he'll have more free time on his hand? A part of me rather he didn't, lol.

As for me, I've decided to follow my instinct, and to focus on my own things and my own trip next week, and not to expect anything from this brief fling anymore. I get that we must cultivate patience with the bull, but the more I think about it, if one has the chance to work out at lunch time, a quick phone call on the way back to the office doesn't cost a thing. I am not on his list of priorities, and I guess, I've got to stick to this mindset from now on.

By the way his Venus is in Taurus, mine is in Pisces. His moon in Cancer, mine in Capricorn. His Mars in Aries, mine in Virgo.

Can anyone be so kind to explain if we're even a good match based on these? I've heard Venus in Taurus are very loving, and his moon is in cancer, but based on our interaction tonight, I barely felt the chemistry we used to have for each other... well from his side anyway...
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I think he liked you but he wasn't sure about you. There might have been someone else such as an ex still hanging around. The other thing is that without sex or a build up of sexual contact he's not going to be as invested in you or the relationship. I'm not saying to have jumped in too soon but two months in and at least seeing each other once to twice a week would be enough to take a bit of a plunge here. I don't know where you were at with that area.

It could also be a case of bad timing. If he was serious about building a relationship with you and if he was as invested then his three week stint at work wouldn't really make much difference. You'd have both found a way to work around it. He made a suggestion which was workable. However, you turned round and said not to bother seeing each other at all! You were prepared to throw him away, so to speak. He may have gone home and had second thoughts which could have compounded his train of thought.

Why did you say that?

I think you wanted to appear to be the cool girl who was super understanding and so care free that it didn't matter to you if you saw him or not.

I do think it poor form for him not to respond to your messages and voice mails. He was probably just avoiding you. It makes me wonder if there is someone else or if something else happened here.

Then when you ran into each other and he suggested to meet up, he wasn't really giving out the good vibes and was non committal. To not have read any messages etc is not great but then I hear Taurus can be tunnel visioned if they have shit to deal with. My taurus is not like that though but some might be. You then followed it up by saying to meet up in a few weeks. Again, palming it off.

I think if you are both at this place after two months of dating then I don't see how it will get any better.

I think you would need to decide what it is you actually want in life and from him. I think an honest and direct conversation with him to tell him what you want would be helpful. If he was in a position to date and begin a relationship then he would have made that known. He may just not reciprocate your feelings. Dating is a funny game. Just because you ate for two months it does not mean it will result in a relationship.
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Posted by AgentP911

I think he liked you but he wasn't sure about you. There might have been someone else such as an ex still hanging around. The other thing is that without sex or a build up of sexual contact he's not going to be as invested in you or the relationship. I'm not saying to have jumped in too soon but two months in and at least seeing each other once to twice a week would be enough to take a bit of a plunge here. I don't know where you were at with that area.

It could also be a case of bad timing. If he was serious about building a relationship with you and if he was as invested then his three week stint at work wouldn't really make much difference. You'd have both found a way to work around it. He made a suggestion which was workable. However, you turned round and said not to bother seeing each other at all! You were prepared to throw him away, so to speak. He may have gone home and had second thoughts which could have compounded his train of thought.

Why did you say that?

I think you wanted to appear to be the cool girl who was super understanding and so care free that it didn't matter to you if you saw him or not.

I do think it poor form for him not to respond to your messages and voice mails. He was probably just avoiding you. It makes me wonder if there is someone else or if something else happened here.

Then when you ran into each other and he suggested to meet up, he wasn't really giving out the good vibes and was non committal. To not have read any messages etc is not great but then I hear Taurus can be tunnel visioned if they have shit to deal with. My taurus is not like that though but some might be. You then followed it up by saying to meet up in a few weeks. Again, palming it off.

I think if you are both at this place after two months of dating then I don't see how it will get any better.

I think you would need to decide what it is you actually want in life and from him. I think an honest and direct conversation with him to tell him what you want would be helpful. If he was in a position to date and begin a relationship then he would have made that known. He may just not reciprocate your feelings. Dating is a funny game. Just because you ate for two months it does not mean it will result in a relationship.


Thank you Agent for your reply. Some of what you said with regards to his behavior made sense. I guess he wasn't sure about me. I just wished he had said so.

By the way, I learnt from a friend of him yesterday that he's not even as busy this week as he told me when we ran onto each other two days ago. The guy I spoke to had no idea we were seeing each other, and inadvertently mentioned that he and and the Taurus had plans to see each other this Thursday. I was so upset that I just called the Taurus but he didn't reply. So I texted him and told him that it'd be best we end our fling (I guess, this is what I'd call it, right?)

After reading what you wrote, Agent, I have no doubt that you're right. Maybe by not being too communicative as well, I've messed this up. I honestly didn't want to act eager. Furthermore, I've got my own things going. I was perfectly happy to see him once or twice a week. Perhaps I should have made more effort to text or call every day? No? Is it where I got it wrong?

I'd also add that the last night we spend together, we went out and had a great time. We went back to his place, but didn't sleep together, just cuddled up, naked skin next to naked skin for a couple of hours. I didn't want to spend the night (he didn't ask) since I thought it was maybe too early in our relationship for me to spend the night at his place... so I left. I saw him the next day at the gym, and he was like, jokingly 'I was looking for you when I woke up, but you were gone. I thought you were in the kitchen making breakfast.' After that, he changed and ignored me for the following two weeks. Do you think my leaving and not spending the night had something to do with his sudden indifference? I thought about it but scrapped the thought out of my mind, thinking it couldn't possibly have bothered him that much. If he wanted me to stay over, why didn't he just suggest it?

I guess, it's too late to ponder on this now. I just wished I had your advice days ago. Too late now, especially after the chat with his friend. I mean, if you feel that you've connected with someone, you don't ignore them for two weeks no matter how busy you are. And then act as if you're cornered to meet up with them again after no seeing them for such a long time. He made plans to see his friend, not me. That's all I needed to know to confirm he's not that into me and I can move on. I felt a bit shitty for doing it over text but since he won't call back, I had no other choice.
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Posted by AgentP911

It could also be a case of bad timing. If he was serious about building a relationship with you and if he was as invested then his three week stint at work wouldn't really make much difference. You'd have both found a way to work around it. He made a suggestion which was workable. However, you turned round and said not to bother seeing each other at all! You were prepared to throw him away, so to speak. He may have gone home and had second thoughts which could have compounded his train of thought.

Why did you say that?

Then when you ran into each other and he suggested to meet up, he wasn't really giving out the good vibes and was non committal. To not have read any messages etc is not great but then I hear Taurus can be tunnel visioned if they have shit to deal with. My taurus is not like that though but some might be. You then followed it up by saying to meet up in a few weeks. Again, palming it off.




Regarding the points you make here, I felt his vibes had changed when he wanted to arrange to see me again. He looked like I was cornering him, or putting him under pressure to see me. All I'd said to him, that it'd be nice to spend some time together since we haven't seen each other for 2 weeks, and, he's going away for 10 days. Sadly, his face told me everything I needed to know. He looked as if he wasn't sure about it.

After talking with his friend yesterday, my instinct was right. He'd already made plans to go out with him. I was never in his plan this week. He was dishonest by saying he'd be busy all this week. In reality, he does have time on his hands. but didn't want to spend it with me. Even when trying to arrange for us to meet on his return, he didn't look too excited either. Hence why I just reacted the way I did, by telling him that let's see when he's back and take it from there. I want a guy who shows genuine happiness and desire to spend time with me, not someone who appeared to be forced to do something he'd rather not do. That's all I saw on his face last Monday, sadly.
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It could also be a case of bad timing. If he was serious about building a relationship with you and if he was as invested then his three week stint at work wouldn't really make much difference. You'd have both found a way to work around it. He made a suggestion which was workable. However, you turned round and said not to bother seeing each other at all! You were prepared to throw him away, so to speak. He may have gone home and had second thoughts which could have compounded his train of thought.

Why did you say that?

Then when you ran into each other and he suggested to meet up, he wasn't really giving out the good vibes and was non committal. To not have read any messages etc is not great but then I hear Taurus can be tunnel visioned if they have shit to deal with. My taurus is not like that though but some might be. You then followed it up by saying to meet up in a few weeks. Again, palming it off.

Regarding the points you make here, I felt his vibes had changed when he wanted to arrange to see me again. He looked like I was cornering him, or putting him under pressure to see me. All I'd said to him, that it'd be nice to spend some time together since we haven't seen each other for 2 weeks, and, he's going away for 10 days. Sadly, his face told me everything I needed to know. He looked as if he wasn't sure about it.

After talking with his friend yesterday, my instinct was right. He'd already made plans to go out with him. I was never in his plan this week. He was dishonest by saying he'd be busy all this week. In reality, he does have time on his hands. but didn't want to spend it with me. Even when trying to arrange for us to meet on his return, he didn't look too excited either. Hence why I just reacted the way I did, by telling him that let's see when he's back and take it from there. I want a guy who shows genuine happiness and desire to spend time with me, not someone who appeared to be forced to do something he'd rather not do. That's all I saw on his face last Monday, sadly.
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Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!
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Posted by AgentP911

Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!

Thank you, Agent. I guess I'll charge this experience to the game.

Funny thing is, this evening, his friend came to speak to me when I was working out, and told me that he saw the Taurus guy earlier (they work in the same building) and asked him if he'd seen my call and text last night -- after his chat with me last night, he apparently gave Taurus guy the heads up, saying he must have inadvertently said too much. He showed me the text and WhatsApp he sent him last night. And they were both unread. Taurus guy never replied to him either. So when his friend ran into him today, he asked if he'd seen any call or text from me ending our relationship. The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters. There we go then.

I just wished he'd said this to me when I saw him on Monday. I can take this kind of talk. I'm not a fragile flower (he knows that) or perhaps he was afraid he'd upset me. His body language spoke for him. However, I would have understood that he needed more time to focus on his work. As I said, I'm not clingy. I've always given him a lot of space. I wrote him once that I admire how driven and ambitious he was about his career. I was even the one who suggested that we don't see each other for three weeks, because I knew he needed to focus on his probation period. But he wasn't okay with it, said three weeks without seeing each other was crazy... until he suddenly changed and ignored me... and now he's singing that he doesn't care about women, only his job. Damn. Lol. What a turn around. Tunnel vision, I guess.

Anyway, his friend also advised me to let it be, and I was like, 'I will. I know it's simply bad timing, which is a shame. But not the end of the world.'

I'll move on. I'm a bit sad that it ended this way but I'll recover. At least, this didn't happen six months in the relationship, lol.

Thank you again for you input, Agent. It's appreciated.
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Are your Moons in opposition? I can't see an Aries Mars with a Virgo Mars. Sounds toxic.


I'm not really familiar with the Moon in opposition aspect. Can you expand on that, please? As for Aries Mars and Virgo Mars being toxic.... I don't know... I'll have to research this, lol.

I read somewhere that Venus in Taurus were attracted to Virgo Mars though. And I've Pisces in Venus. I would have thought both Venus in Taurus and Pisces would be quite a good match romance wise. Maybe I was wrong. As Agent said, the connection just died out as time flew by. Maybe we were just never meant to be.
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Are your Moons in opposition? I can't see an Aries Mars with a Virgo Mars. Sounds toxic.

I'm not really familiar with the Moon in opposition aspect. Can you expand on that, please? As for Aries Mars and Virgo Mars being toxic.... I don't know... I'll have to research this, lol.

I read somewhere that Venus in Taurus were attracted to Virgo Mars though. And I've Pisces in Venus. I would have thought both Venus in Taurus and Pisces would be quite a good match romance wise. Maybe I was wrong. As Agent said, the connection just died out as time flew by. Maybe we were just never meant to be.
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You can measure the degrees between your moons. Yes, A Pisces Venus and a Taurus Venus should get along well. (I always do!) But Mars is the sexual energy. Aries Mars and Virgo Mars are quincunx, - inconjunct. Different elements and different modalities can make for a difficult relationship with this placement.
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Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!

Thank you, Agent. I guess I'll charge this experience to the game.

Funny thing is, this evening, his friend came to speak to me when I was working out, and told me that he saw the Taurus guy earlier (they work in the same building) and asked him if he'd seen my call and text last night -- after his chat with me last night, he apparently gave Taurus guy the heads up, saying he must have inadvertently said too much. He showed me the text and WhatsApp he sent him last night. And they were both unread. Taurus guy never replied to him either. So when his friend ran into him today, he asked if he'd seen any call or text from me ending our relationship. The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters. There we go then.

I just wished he'd said this to me when I saw him on Monday. I can take this kind of talk. I'm not a fragile flower (he knows that) or perhaps he was afraid he'd upset me. His body language spoke for him. However, I would have understood that he needed more time to focus on his work. As I said, I'm not clingy. I've always given him a lot of space. I wrote him once that I admire how driven and ambitious he was about his career. I was even the one who suggested that we don't see each other for three weeks, because I knew he needed to focus on his probation period. But he wasn't okay with it, said three weeks without seeing each other was crazy... until he suddenly changed and ignored me... and now he's singing that he doesn't care about women, only his job. Damn. Lol. What a turn around. Tunnel vision, I guess.

Anyway, his friend also advised me to let it be, and I was like, 'I will. I know it's simply bad timing, which is a shame. But not the end of the world.'

I'll move on. I'm a bit sad that it ended this way but I'll recover. At least, this didn't happen six months in the relationship, lol.

Thank you again for you input, Agent. It's appreciated.
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i might be accused of being a bit soft and that could be true but

"The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters."

to my ear, this sounds like there is more to this story than you know. something has happened outside of what you had (whatever it was) with him.
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Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!

Thank you, Agent. I guess I'll charge this experience to the game.

Funny thing is, this evening, his friend came to speak to me when I was working out, and told me that he saw the Taurus guy earlier (they work in the same building) and asked him if he'd seen my call and text last night -- after his chat with me last night, he apparently gave Taurus guy the heads up, saying he must have inadvertently said too much. He showed me the text and WhatsApp he sent him last night. And they were both unread. Taurus guy never replied to him either. So when his friend ran into him today, he asked if he'd seen any call or text from me ending our relationship. The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters. There we go then.

I just wished he'd said this to me when I saw him on Monday. I can take this kind of talk. I'm not a fragile flower (he knows that) or perhaps he was afraid he'd upset me. His body language spoke for him. However, I would have understood that he needed more time to focus on his work. As I said, I'm not clingy. I've always given him a lot of space. I wrote him once that I admire how driven and ambitious he was about his career. I was even the one who suggested that we don't see each other for three weeks, because I knew he needed to focus on his probation period. But he wasn't okay with it, said three weeks without seeing each other was crazy... until he suddenly changed and ignored me... and now he's singing that he doesn't care about women, only his job. Damn. Lol. What a turn around. Tunnel vision, I guess.

Anyway, his friend also advised me to let it be, and I was like, 'I will. I know it's simply bad timing, which is a shame. But not the end of the world.'

I'll move on. I'm a bit sad that it ended this way but I'll recover. At least, this didn't happen six months in the relationship, lol.

Thank you again for you input, Agent. It's appreciated.
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Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!

Thank you, Agent. I guess I'll charge this experience to the game.

Funny thing is, this evening, his friend came to speak to me when I was working out, and told me that he saw the Taurus guy earlier (they work in the same building) and asked him if he'd seen my call and text last night -- after his chat with me last night, he apparently gave Taurus guy the heads up, saying he must have inadvertently said too much. He showed me the text and WhatsApp he sent him last night. And they were both unread. Taurus guy never replied to him either. So when his friend ran into him today, he asked if he'd seen any call or text from me ending our relationship. The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters. There we go then.

I just wished he'd said this to me when I saw him on Monday. I can take this kind of talk. I'm not a fragile flower (he knows that) or perhaps he was afraid he'd upset me. His body language spoke for him. However, I would have understood that he needed more time to focus on his work. As I said, I'm not clingy. I've always given him a lot of space. I wrote him once that I admire how driven and ambitious he was about his career. I was even the one who suggested that we don't see each other for three weeks, because I knew he needed to focus on his probation period. But he wasn't okay with it, said three weeks without seeing each other was crazy... until he suddenly changed and ignored me... and now he's singing that he doesn't care about women, only his job. Damn. Lol. What a turn around. Tunnel vision, I guess.

Anyway, his friend also advised me to let it be, and I was like, 'I will. I know it's simply bad timing, which is a shame. But not the end of the world.'

I'll move on. I'm a bit sad that it ended this way but I'll recover. At least, this didn't happen six months in the relationship, lol.

Thank you again for you input, Agent. It's appreciated.

i might be accused of being a bit soft and that could be true but

"The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters."

to my ear, this sounds like there is more to this story than you know. something has happened outside of what you had (whatever it was) with him.
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I reckon an ex still hanging around or came back on the scene or something. Definitely something going on.
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"The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters."

to my ear, this sounds like there is more to this story than you know. something has happened outside of what you had (whatever it was) with him.


Thanks Jeane. Although your train of thought intrigued me and I'm tempted to ask you to expand on this, I won't do it. It doesn't matter now. I've accepted that we didn't click as well as I thought. So I'm moving on. Thanks again.
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Yes, that would make sense. The non committal, pressured look etc. If a guy wants to see you he will make the time to do so and he will tell you that too. I think you probably read it right here and then his friend has confirmed he was seeing the Taurus guy on Thursday. He may not have been intentionally dishonest or misleading but the result is the same. You're not seeing him on Thursday. And at least now you know.

I don't think you fucked up anything to be honest. If it wasn't a match then it wasn't a match. Don't forget that connections, chemist and all that stuff is subjective. You may have felt it but perhaps he didn't so much or perhaps he did but as time and the dates moved along he felt it less so. It happens. Better to know now AND you didn't sleep with him so you don't have to deal with all of that. I think establishing an exclusive and committed relationship is often a good idea before jumping into sex but other things are fine to add in along the way.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it (although you probably will a bit as we all do) or ponder over every detail (I'm bad at that 😔) but just chalk it up to just not working out. Most people aren't upfront about things. He's an Aries mercury so his communication style would be rather direct but it just wasn't a match.

Don't let it tarnish your dating thoughts though. It's not all bad!

Thank you, Agent. I guess I'll charge this experience to the game.

Funny thing is, this evening, his friend came to speak to me when I was working out, and told me that he saw the Taurus guy earlier (they work in the same building) and asked him if he'd seen my call and text last night -- after his chat with me last night, he apparently gave Taurus guy the heads up, saying he must have inadvertently said too much. He showed me the text and WhatsApp he sent him last night. And they were both unread. Taurus guy never replied to him either. So when his friend ran into him today, he asked if he'd seen any call or text from me ending our relationship. The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters. There we go then.

I just wished he'd said this to me when I saw him on Monday. I can take this kind of talk. I'm not a fragile flower (he knows that) or perhaps he was afraid he'd upset me. His body language spoke for him. However, I would have understood that he needed more time to focus on his work. As I said, I'm not clingy. I've always given him a lot of space. I wrote him once that I admire how driven and ambitious he was about his career. I was even the one who suggested that we don't see each other for three weeks, because I knew he needed to focus on his probation period. But he wasn't okay with it, said three weeks without seeing each other was crazy... until he suddenly changed and ignored me... and now he's singing that he doesn't care about women, only his job. Damn. Lol. What a turn around. Tunnel vision, I guess.

Anyway, his friend also advised me to let it be, and I was like, 'I will. I know it's simply bad timing, which is a shame. But not the end of the world.'

I'll move on. I'm a bit sad that it ended this way but I'll recover. At least, this didn't happen six months in the relationship, lol.

Thank you again for you input, Agent. It's appreciated.

i might be accused of being a bit soft and that could be true but

"The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters."

to my ear, this sounds like there is more to this story than you know. something has happened outside of what you had (whatever it was) with him.

I reckon an ex still hanging around or came back on the scene or something. Definitely something going on.
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Ah, I now see what Jeane might have been referring to. If that's the case, why tell his mate he doesn't care about women and only works matters? Was that a cover up?

I wonder which ex would that be though. There's one who cheated on him and he never forgave her. He told me on our very first date that he didn't tolerate cheating. The girl he was with last, before we got together, works at his office, but she apparently started gossiping/badmouthing him to some people in their place of work. He found out, didn't appreciate it and ended their relationship. Regardless, if they've decided to rekindle their relationship, (I can actually see it happening, long hours at the office for both of them, she apologizes for spreading rumors about him, he forgives her, and they get close again) then, there's nothing I can do about it, lol. If that's truly the case, I would have appreciated some honesty from him.

Anyway, I'm moving on and going to focus on myself now. Going on my trip tomorrow, so I'm more excited about it now. Perfect way to clear my head and start afresh.

Thanks again ladies for taking the time to post your input. Have a great weekend.
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"The Taurus replied that he hasn't, and that he doesn't care about it at the moment, that right now, he doesn't care about women. Only his work matters."

to my ear, this sounds like there is more to this story than you know. something has happened outside of what you had (whatever it was) with him.

Thanks Jeane. Although your train of thought intrigued me and I'm tempted to ask you to expand on this, I won't do it. It doesn't matter now. I've accepted that we didn't click as well as I thought. So I'm moving on. Thanks again.
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agreed it doesn't matter now but for future reference...i just thought that that statement sounded like one stemming from hurt and upset. someone, a woman, who he had romantic feelings for, has upset him. in reaction he has decided to go back to his cave to lick his wounds.

i think he didn't tell his friend because it's painful. men, and from my experience especially taurus men, don't talk feelings easily and are very private people. only a select few see the soft underbelly.
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A new update on the Taurus, and I would love some advice, possibly from Taurus Males too.

@Jeane and @AgentP911, your input will be greatly appreciated.

So the Taurus and I met at our gym last night. I just came back from my trip abroad and he's been away too. We've talked for quite a while about our vacations, and his new job. He seemed happy to see me. Gave me a big grin when he saw me. There was no physical touch from him, like hug etc... he told me he would've if he weren't too sweaty (never stopped him in the past)... anyway, we were talking until he mentioned the texts I sent him where I broke up with him. He was really cool about it. Just laughing, saying they were angry texts, though I never intended for him to interpret them that way. To me, what I sent were level-headed messages, cool and collected, and I made that clear last night. He interpreted them as angry. We both agreed things get totally misconstrued in texting. He told me not to worry about it, it's all in the past and I agreed with him. Then we talked about his new job. I left after that.

Now I'm confused. I'd like to call him, and ask him what he clearly meant when he said ''It's in the past. Don't worry. Let's forget about it.'' Seeing him yesterday awoken all those feelings I actually thought were gone. I'd been thinking about how he treated me (ignoring me for 2 weeks, acting cornered whenever I suggested we arrange a date after not seeing each other for a while) and that kept me from reaching out, and slowly getting over him. But seeing his charming self again, and that weird energy there is between us (definitely different from the last time when I felt there was a wall between us) I've got a strong desire to rekindle the relationship.

However, I don't know if, by 'it's in the past,'' he meant, ''let's forget about the texts and resume our relationship, or, let's forget about the texts. I'm not mad. It's all cool, but I've accepted your decision.''

I spoke to my girlfriend and she said to leave him alone, that if he clearly wanted to see me again, he would have offered last night. I think she's got a point but I'm feeling so nervous about ASKING HIM. Don't want to come across desperate. I've read a few posts on the forum saying to be direct and ask a Taurus and never play games. That's the only way to know. I want to follow that advice, but I just need shit load of courage to do that. After all, I was the one who ended things because, like I told him, I had the feeling that he felt obligated to go out with me.

I fear rejection, especially since I feel like he's already moved on, and yesterday he was only being nice.

Shall I call him? Shall I just leave it alone?

Thanks guys for helping.
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A new update on the Taurus, and I would love some advice, possibly from Taurus Males too.

@Jeane and @AgentP911, your input will be greatly appreciated.

So the Taurus and I met at our gym last night. I just came back from my trip abroad and he's been away too. We've talked for quite a while about our vacations, and his new job. He seemed happy to see me. Gave me a big grin when he saw me. There was no physical touch from him, like hug etc... he told me he would've if he weren't too sweaty (never stopped him in the past)... anyway, we were talking until he mentioned the texts I sent him where I broke up with him. He was really cool about it. Just laughing, saying they were angry texts, though I never intended for him to interpret them that way. To me, what I sent were level-headed messages, cool and collected, and I made that clear last night. He interpreted them as angry. We both agreed things get totally misconstrued in texting. He told me not to worry about it, it's all in the past and I agreed with him. Then we talked about his new job. I left after that.

Now I'm confused. I'd like to call him, and ask him what he clearly meant when he said ''It's in the past. Don't worry. Let's forget about it.'' Seeing him yesterday awoken all those feelings I actually thought were gone. I'd been thinking about how he treated me (ignoring me for 2 weeks, acting cornered whenever I suggested we arrange a date after not seeing each other for a while) and that kept me from reaching out, and slowly getting over him. But seeing his charming self again, and that weird energy there is between us (definitely different from the last time when I felt there was a wall between us) I've got a strong desire to rekindle the relationship.

However, I don't know if, by 'it's in the past,'' he meant, ''let's forget about the texts and resume our relationship, or, let's forget about the texts. I'm not mad. It's all cool, but I've accepted your decision.''

I spoke to my girlfriend and she said to leave him alone, that if he clearly wanted to see me again, he would have offered last night. I think she's got a point but I'm feeling so nervous about ASKING HIM. Don't want to come across desperate. I've read a few posts on the forum saying to be direct and ask a Taurus and never play games. That's the only way to know. I want to follow that advice, but I just need shit load of courage to do that. After all, I was the one who ended things because, like I told him, I had the feeling that he felt obligated to go out with me.

I fear rejection, especially since I feel like he's already moved on, and yesterday he was only being nice.

Shall I call him? Shall I just leave it alone?

Thanks guys for helping.


One thing I'm learning from the Bull am talking to is that direct is best way. They arent into small talk either. Do you want to clear something up? Just ask what he meant. You'll get an honest answer, may not always be what you like tho. I also learning that once you're in, it takes a lot for them to close you out. But once you get to that point, there is no coming back in tho. The fact that he is still talking, means you're not out yet.

So, just pucker up and ask him directly. You'll have your answer then.
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One thing I'm learning from the Bull am talking to is that direct is best way. They arent into small talk either. Do you want to clear something up? Just ask what he meant. You'll get an honest answer, may not always be what you like tho. I also learning that once you're in, it takes a lot for them to close you out. But once you get to that point, there is no coming back in tho. The fact that he is still talking, means you're not out yet.

So, just pucker up and ask him directly. You'll have your answer then.

Thank you so much, PiscesGal76! I'm glad to have your input on this topic again. I remember your replies in my original thread 🙂 I'll give him a call. I'm so nervous though, especially since, like you said, I'll definitely get a honest answer but it might not be what I like. I'm usually a risk taker but don't know why I don't feel so spontaneous with this Taurus. Thanks again for your input. Life's about taking risks. We win some, we lose some. 🙂
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A new update on the Taurus, and I would love some advice, possibly from Taurus Males too.

@Jeane and @AgentP911, your input will be greatly appreciated.

So the Taurus and I met at our gym last night. I just came back from my trip abroad and he's been away too. We've talked for quite a while about our vacations, and his new job. He seemed happy to see me. Gave me a big grin when he saw me. There was no physical touch from him, like hug etc... he told me he would've if he weren't too sweaty (never stopped him in the past)... anyway, we were talking until he mentioned the texts I sent him where I broke up with him. He was really cool about it. Just laughing, saying they were angry texts, though I never intended for him to interpret them that way. To me, what I sent were level-headed messages, cool and collected, and I made that clear last night. He interpreted them as angry. We both agreed things get totally misconstrued in texting. He told me not to worry about it, it's all in the past and I agreed with him. Then we talked about his new job. I left after that.

Now I'm confused. I'd like to call him, and ask him what he clearly meant when he said ''It's in the past. Don't worry. Let's forget about it.'' Seeing him yesterday awoken all those feelings I actually thought were gone. I'd been thinking about how he treated me (ignoring me for 2 weeks, acting cornered whenever I suggested we arrange a date after not seeing each other for a while) and that kept me from reaching out, and slowly getting over him. But seeing his charming self again, and that weird energy there is between us (definitely different from the last time when I felt there was a wall between us) I've got a strong desire to rekindle the relationship.

However, I don't know if, by 'it's in the past,'' he meant, ''let's forget about the texts and resume our relationship, or, let's forget about the texts. I'm not mad. It's all cool, but I've accepted your decision.''

I spoke to my girlfriend and she said to leave him alone, that if he clearly wanted to see me again, he would have offered last night. I think she's got a point but I'm feeling so nervous about ASKING HIM. Don't want to come across desperate. I've read a few posts on the forum saying to be direct and ask a Taurus and never play games. That's the only way to know. I want to follow that advice, but I just need shit load of courage to do that. After all, I was the one who ended things because, like I told him, I had the feeling that he felt obligated to go out with me.

I fear rejection, especially since I feel like he's already moved on, and yesterday he was only being nice.

Shall I call him? Shall I just leave it alone?

Thanks guys for helping.


i think you should do whatever puts your mind at rest.

i also think if you want to give yourself the best chance of putting this on track (guy doesn't you for a few weeks, doesn't make any plans to see you again and makes no physical contact aren't great signs that this is anything more than a friendship to him at this point) you have to be honest about how you feel.

yes, be direct but be direct about what you want and what you would like to see happen. sometimes these guys have to be taken in hand and moved into the right position. you can ask him to clarify what he meant but also clarify (use short sentences if you must) what you meant and what you felt/feel so that there is no doubt in his mind.

but finally i would also ask you to take a minute to revisit what caused you to react the way you did when you sent him those texts. are you settled in yourself that if the next time he is busy with work or being "frosty" you are ok with that? or do you want more something more consistent? are you confident enough to tell him what you want? are you confident that he will respond in a way that will be positive? if that's not what he wants and he would prefer just to keep it friendly and casual without any sort of iron clad commitment to communication etc, where do you stand with that?

it's great that you have re-discovered your feelings for him but arguments happen for a reason. you need to examine the reason and work out a solution that leaves you in a win-win situation. forgetting about it and going on like it never happened will result in you ending up in the same place.
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i think you should do whatever puts your mind at rest.

i also think if you want to give yourself the best chance of putting this on track (guy doesn't you for a few weeks, doesn't make any plans to see you again and makes no physical contact aren't great signs that this is anything more than a friendship to him at this point) you have to be honest about how you feel.

yes, be direct but be direct about what you want and what you would like to see happen. sometimes these guys have to be taken in hand and moved into the right position. you can ask him to clarify what he meant but also clarify (use short sentences if you must) what you meant and what you felt/feel so that there is no doubt in his mind.

but finally i would also ask you to take a minute to revisit what caused you to react the way you did when you sent him those texts. are you settled in yourself that if the next time he is busy with work or being "frosty" you are ok with that? or do you want more something more consistent? are you confident enough to tell him what you want? are you confident that he will respond in a way that will be positive? if that's not what he wants and he would prefer just to keep it friendly and casual without any sort of iron clad commitment to communication etc, where do you stand with that?

it's great that you have re-discovered your feelings for him but arguments happen for a reason. you need to examine the reason and work out a solution that leaves you in a win-win situation. forgetting about it and going on like it never happened will result in you ending up in the same place.

Thank you, Jeane, for your wonderful response. I haven't called him yet but I've totally been putting everything you stated into perspective. I'll definitely be direct about what I want, what I'd like to happen (a 2nd chance hopefully). I'll also clarify what I meant in my texts, especially since yesterday when I was trying to tell him my texts weren't angry, but stemmed from a place of upset, he just brushed everything off and said it's all in the past, and not to worry about it. I do really want to make him understand how I felt when I sent those.

You said to use short words, do you think, ''You body language indicated to me you'd rather be left alone'' would do? I was thinking inviting him for drinks so it'd be really easier to talk about it face- to - face, rather than on the phone. In the gym, sometimes, we can't go into deeper matters, because there are always nosy people around us.

I've also considered him being busy again and going silent or frosty. I think I'll be more prepared on these occasions. I've got my own things going, a busy job too and I'm quite independent. As I said in my original post, I've always given him plenty of space. We wouldn't speak for days before seeing each other on weekends. I truly want him in my life, as a friend, as well as a lover. Shall I tell him that? Lol, that's a tough one, isn't it? That might scare him off... Don't you think?

If he decides that he just wants us to be friends, I'll accept it. At least, I'll know.
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I posted a thread about a Taurus guy I've been dating for a few months, but it's not showing on the Taurus forum. Is there a reason as to why, please? It would be nice to have more output, especially from honourable Taurus members. Are there posting restrictions for new members? And if so, how long shall I wait before my post is shown?

Thanks.


One of mine out of MANY haven’t shown in Aries forum...

Next one did.

When I click on ghost thread it takes me to a main page...like if I had deleted it...
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Thank you, Jeane, for your wonderful response. I haven't called him yet but I've totally been putting everything you stated into perspective. I'll definitely be direct about what I want, what I'd like to happen (a 2nd chance hopefully). I'll also clarify what I meant in my texts, especially since yesterday when I was trying to tell him my texts weren't angry, but stemmed from a place of upset, he just brushed everything off and said it's all in the past, and not to worry about it. I do really want to make him understand how I felt when I sent those.

You said to use short words, do you think, ''You body language indicated to me you'd rather be left alone'' would do? I was thinking inviting him for drinks so it'd be really easier to talk about it face- to - face, rather than on the phone. In the gym, sometimes, we can't go into deeper matters, because there are always nosy people around us.

I've also considered him being busy again and going silent or frosty. I think I'll be more prepared on these occasions. I've got my own things going, a busy job too and I'm quite independent. As I said in my original post, I've always given him plenty of space. We wouldn't speak for days before seeing each other on weekends. I truly want him in my life, as a friend, as well as a lover. Shall I tell him that? Lol, that's a tough one, isn't it? That might scare him off... Don't you think?

If he decides that he just wants us to be friends, I'll accept it. At least, I'll know.


i meant by the short sentences remark that you need to be clear and plain speaking. no long winded explanations. just cards on the table and get to the point.

personally, i veer away from "you" statements. i prefer speaking in 'i' statements. yes, it's pop psychology mumbo jumbo but i have found it works. so instead of

"'Your body language indicated to me you'd rather be left alone."

you say

"i got the sense you wanted to be by yourself."

if you wanted to invited him out for drinks don't make it sound heavy. dear god, don't say "i want to talk about how we left things." or any permutation of that. just say "i know you've been busy. it would be great to catch up. i want to hear what you've been up to. "

if you are ok with a more casual side to things then just allow it to evolve organically. you don't have to say "i want to be friends and lovers." just say "i really like you. i enjoy your company and spending time with you. i would like to see where things go."

then there's no pressure.
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i meant by the short sentences remark that you need to be clear and plain speaking. no long winded explanations. just cards on the table and get to the point.

personally, i veer away from "you" statements. i prefer speaking in 'i' statements. yes, it's pop psychology mumbo jumbo but i have found it works. so instead of

"'Your body language indicated to me you'd rather be left alone."

you say

"i got the sense you wanted to be by yourself."

if you wanted to invited him out for drinks don't make it sound heavy. dear god, don't say "i want to talk about how we left things." or any permutation of that. just say "i know you've been busy. it would be great to catch up. i want to hear what you've been up to. "

if you are ok with a more casual side to things then just allow it to evolve organically. you don't have to say "i want to be friends and lovers." just say "i really like you. i enjoy your company and spending time with you. i would like to see where things go."

then there's no pressure.

OMG!!! Jeane you're the best!! Thank you so much! This will totally help when I call him later today. I'll keep you updated. I definitely love the way you've phrased the sentences I should use. Straight to the point but still filled with substance. What sign are you? You seem to understand Taurus so well 🙂 Are you a Taurus too?
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i meant by the short sentences remark that you need to be clear and plain speaking. no long winded explanations. just cards on the table and get to the point.

personally, i veer away from "you" statements. i prefer speaking in 'i' statements. yes, it's pop psychology mumbo jumbo but i have found it works. so instead of

"'Your body language indicated to me you'd rather be left alone."

you say

"i got the sense you wanted to be by yourself."

if you wanted to invited him out for drinks don't make it sound heavy. dear god, don't say "i want to talk about how we left things." or any permutation of that. just say "i know you've been busy. it would be great to catch up. i want to hear what you've been up to. "

if you are ok with a more casual side to things then just allow it to evolve organically. you don't have to say "i want to be friends and lovers." just say "i really like you. i enjoy your company and spending time with you. i would like to see where things go."

then there's no pressure.

OMG!!! Jeane you're the best!! Thank you so much! This will totally help when I call him later today. I'll keep you updated. I definitely love the way you've phrased the sentences I should use. Straight to the point but still filled with substance. What sign are you? You seem to understand Taurus so well 🙂 Are you a Taurus too?
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i'm a libra but i have years under my belt of speaking taurus.

i'm no expert. all i can give you is what has worked and continues to work for me. in regards to my own relationship, i know what will trigger him, i know how he is going to react, and i know how to diffuse the situation.

i also know that for my relationship, he was incredibly cautious. he didn't want to promise anything out of fear of not being able to deliver. he wanted things to develop organically. doesn't like the "we need to talk..." vibe because it means talking about feelings and feelings are not easily expressed. so enter high anxiety. and whatever you do, FOR GODSAKE DON'T PUSH HIM!!! (these are all the things i have learnt.)





(of course i push him, he just doesn't realise it. bless his little cotton socks.)
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i'm a libra but i have years under my belt of speaking taurus.

i'm no expert. all i can give you is what has worked and continues to work for me. in regards to my own relationship, i know what will trigger him, i know how he is going to react, and i know how to diffuse the situation.

i also know that for my relationship, he was incredibly cautious. he didn't want to promise anything out of fear of not being able to deliver. he wanted things to develop organically. doesn't like the "we need to talk..." vibe because it means talking about feelings and feelings are not easily expressed. so enter high anxiety. and whatever you do, FOR GODSAKE DON'T PUSH HIM!!! (these are all the things i have learnt.)





(of course i push him, he just doesn't realise it. bless his little cotton socks.)

Oh wow, you're an air sign! That's so commendable. I would have thought air signs and Taurus don't actually gel well, especially in long term relationships. But you're proving that can be done. When I think about it, George Clooney ( Taurus) and Amal ( Aquarius) are still going strong after five or six years together. You're both lucky to have your Tauruses 🙂

As for me, as a water sign, (Pisces) I don't think I'll be that lucky. I've thrown the towel on the Taurus.

I called him yesterday, went through his voicemail. I left a quick message, asking him to call me back, that it was nice to see him the previous night. He didn't call me back. Later that evening, I saw him at the gym, but he avoided eyes contact with me ,and quickly walked away as I was heading toward him 😢

So, yeah, i'm done. I'm not going to chase him. I think he was just being nice on Monday, and he's definitely over me, and he wants his space. I'll give it to him. Time to focus on me and my career from now on. I've also decided to go to our gym in the mornings instead, so we won't have to bump into each other . That'll also help me heal and get over him fast.

Thank you again, Jeane. I've really appreciated your help in this matter. Maybe one day, I'll meet another Taurus, to whom I'll give heaps of love, affection and understanding. This time I'll know what to do.
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As for me, as a water sign, (Pisces) I don't think I'll be that lucky. I've thrown the towel on the Taurus.

I called him yesterday, went through his voicemail. I left a quick message, asking him to call me back, that it was nice to see him the previous night. He didn't call me back. Later that evening, I saw him at the gym, but he avoided eyes contact with me ,and quickly walked away as I was heading toward him 😢

So, yeah, i'm done. I'm not going to chase him. I think he was just being nice on Monday, and he's definitely over me, and he wants his space. I'll give it to him. Time to focus on me and my career from now on. I've also decided to go to our gym in the mornings instead, so we won't have to bump into each other . That'll also help me heal and get over him fast.

Thank you again, Jeane. I've really appreciated your help in this matter. Maybe one day, I'll meet another Taurus, to whom I'll give heaps of love, affection and understanding. This time I'll know what to do.


ugh he sounds tiresome. is he young? he might be an unevolved bull. from what i have heard and read, some of them can be players with some being all talk, no trousers.

no point wasting your attention on someone who doesn't want you. i don't think you could have done any more than you have done.

fingers crossed one day you'll meet a wonderful bull. if you get a good one, they are an absolute blessing in your life.
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As for me, as a water sign, (Pisces) I don't think I'll be that lucky. I've thrown the towel on the Taurus.

I called him yesterday, went through his voicemail. I left a quick message, asking him to call me back, that it was nice to see him the previous night. He didn't call me back. Later that evening, I saw him at the gym, but he avoided eyes contact with me ,and quickly walked away as I was heading toward him 😢

So, yeah, i'm done. I'm not going to chase him. I think he was just being nice on Monday, and he's definitely over me, and he wants his space. I'll give it to him. Time to focus on me and my career from now on. I've also decided to go to our gym in the mornings instead, so we won't have to bump into each other . That'll also help me heal and get over him fast.

Thank you again, Jeane. I've really appreciated your help in this matter. Maybe one day, I'll meet another Taurus, to whom I'll give heaps of love, affection and understanding. This time I'll know what to do.

ugh he sounds tiresome. is he young? he might be an unevolved bull. from what i have heard and read, some of them can be players with some being all talk, no trousers.

no point wasting your attention on someone who doesn't want you. i don't think you could have done any more than you have done.

fingers crossed one day you'll meet a wonderful bull. if you get a good one, they are an absolute blessing in your life.
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He's 27. But I always thought he acted mature for his age-- well before the 2 weeks of disappearing etc... I guess I was wrong. I've tried my best. Him and I are not meant to be.

Thanks again for the good wishes! 🙂
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I feel I'm late to the party 😂

I was going to say, based on the recent meeting with him, I don't think he was particularly interested. If he was interested then the angry Vs upset texts are a barrier. He reads you as angry, maybe dramatic, perhaps not on same page kind of thing. I interpret his comments exactly as he said them. It's in the past. Not that it is in the past but I want to rekindle things with you. I don't feel this has the ingredients or enough to it to become something. I think when you called him and left a message to call back that it would have given him an olive branch so to speak but he didn't take ou up on the offer. However, he may not have known what or why you were calling so he avoided the entire thing.

I think Jeane has already stated that this guy is hard work. Personally, I think you have done enough. You've put some bait out there and he hasn't even nibbled at it. Honestly, I'm exhausted for you!!

I think changing your gym time is a good idea to minimise contact. Maybe he wasn't mature at all. He had already showed you his behaviour and, as a pisces, I really don't think this would have done you any good. You could have put up with it for a while, busied yourself etc but you can't go the next decade or more like that. It's not a match. There will be someone out there who is a far better match. Don't rule out a taurus though. I'm Scorpio sun with Pisces moon. Me and my Taurus go well together so it's not all lost for us water signs!!
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I feel I'm late to the party 😂

I was going to say, based on the recent meeting with him, I don't think he was particularly interested. If he was interested then the angry Vs upset texts are a barrier. He reads you as angry, maybe dramatic, perhaps not on same page kind of thing. I interpret his comments exactly as he said them. It's in the past. Not that it is in the past but I want to rekindle things with you. I don't feel this has the ingredients or enough to it to become something. I think when you called him and left a message to call back that it would have given him an olive branch so to speak but he didn't take ou up on the offer. However, he may not have known what or why you were calling so he avoided the entire thing.

I think Jeane has already stated that this guy is hard work. Personally, I think you have done enough. You've put some bait out there and he hasn't even nibbled at it. Honestly, I'm exhausted for you!!

I think changing your gym time is a good idea to minimise contact. Maybe he wasn't mature at all. He had already showed you his behaviour and, as a pisces, I really don't think this would have done you any good. You could have put up with it for a while, busied yourself etc but you can't go the next decade or more like that. It's not a match. There will be someone out there who is a far better match. Don't rule out a taurus though. I'm Scorpio sun with Pisces moon. Me and my Taurus go well together so it's not all lost for us water signs!!


Thank you Agent!

I hope that I'll find a much more evolved Taurus in the future. But in the meantime, I'll focus on me!

Thank you again for taking the time to reply 🙂
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Hello

..maybe im wrong ..Here but ...WE will See 😆

I know that Taurus Girl ...

I See her at Work Sometimes ..

She ask for my Number ...and WE Had some Dates ...that typical Taurus behavior ...she give me presents ...was distant and aloof ..Like they are ..i was helping with her move and saw her Mom ...

WE Had some great Moments at Work ..and some nice Dates ...

So i ask her Out. ..at that time i start falling in Love ...

So i Made Dinner for her

WE Made a fire ...she stay Till late night ...Alone in my Garden ..

And WE kisst us heavently !!!!!

So real and so nice her eyse was Sparkling

I was Sure shes in Love ...

So i was 100% Sure shes in Love ...

OK next week ..i was in Relationship Mode

And Text her and voicemailing her maybe to much

WE saw us at Work ...and i told her ...i dont want to Rush or Push you ...

WE saw us again ...i try to kiss her ...but she wasnt in the mood ...but she was cuddling with...me ...and we talkt ...about everything

She knew that i was thinking WE are exklusiv ...i could feel that i maybe was to pushy for her

And shes talking alot of her University Situation that is so stressful for her ..and shes really in Stress ..shes even going Back to her Patents

She told me :

1: i Always need longer

2: lets See where it leads

3: i cant give 100% now

4: i Had a relationship where one have more than the other ..and that will Hurt someone

And Nr.5 and my Favorite :

5: whats even time 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 dafuk

OK now If i ask her she seems ...to be Not avalible ..and very in Stress ...and i dont know when i got time next ..is all she told me ..shes pushing me away

At Work WE Talk nice and good Like Always ...she even told me

I Like U alot ..and our Dates was very nice ..

And that Kissing Moment ..was. Beautiful ...

So im confused

I have some Theories

1: i scared her with my Tempo ..and she needs to think ..and See me at Work ...and will Check me Out at Work and will See If i Change or Something ...🤔

2: she isnt where she want to be in Life right now ...?!

3.: She Just got bored because ...she knows i want her ..,

4: thats hard for my but i have a very ..good Intuition ....so she was talking about her Bad relationship ...and im Sure she was the Person that have more ...and she was Hurt ...

And isnt over that Guy ...so that Guy ...is the Brother..of our Female Boss ...what makes the Situation Kind of funny ...And now she mirrows that Guy on me !? ...and Just playing with me ...to boost her Ego !? ...

I could need some Help

I want to send her a voicemail soon ...with a of im thinking and what is Up with us..bla bla ...