Pro Trump POV on Russia?

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Can a Pro Trump person please explain the perspective on Russia? I'm curious what the POV is about how he seemed so friendly and eager to be entangled and exchanging energies with Putin?

Does hind sight change how you would view those interactions? Specifically, in regards to;

* Russian hacking Political parties

* Creating Fake news and fake social media accounts to manipulate people

* The “Perfect” Phone Call with Zelenskyy?

* Literally anything else.
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I've wondered the same but it appears that most of the loud mouth supporters that instigate irrational and nonsensical debates are scarce on social media platforms right now.

They must have been Russian bots. *shrugs*

A lot of these keyboard warriors that follow them can usually only summon up a like or a share, they rarely speak out loud unless they are ganging up on someone.

did they all just go to his echo chamber? I saw someone on fb this week post, "thanks for all the birthday wishes, my name on truth social is ___"
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I will answer for my Trump loving ex. He thinks that Trump is such a badass American alpha male that Putin would have been too afraid to make any moves.

and they say we shouldn't discriminate ppl based on who they support. i'm sure he had some other interesting opinions as well lol.

I could write a book. He once told me he didn’t know I wanted to have an orgasm during sex. He expected traditional gender roles which I initially didn’t mind. I like to cook and clean. But ,when I asked what his role In the relationship was he said “protector and provider” I asked “What do you provide?” He told me....”I pay half the rent” *not half the bills, just half the rent.

I will forever associate Republican men with men who don’t know women want orgasms and think being a provider is paying less than their fair share.
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The first rule of being part of a cult is to never question the cult leaders motives or ideology. Your job is to follow blindly and shut out outside noise with the FAKE NEWS mantra. Critical thinking is not required or encouraged.

I actually get along with a lot of Trumpers/Trumpets cause they have good surface common sense and self respect although a bit diluded. I can't really relate to a lot of the ultra progressives cause I don't really think they believe in themselves

Now knowing how they think and what they tend to believe, theyre really not wrong on a lot of things (some sort of common sense) the problem arises when they run into any sort of problem or inconvenience, they go batshit or depressed. And they can't really operate on any other level than being ignorant of some fundamentals, same goes for the lefties too. Cause politics is never gonna satisfy everyone.

So as far as Russia, they don't really care about any of that stuff, all they see is a leader with resources and military and they automatically respect, they're kinda dog minded, they function on primitive flight or fight.

They want to have that basic respect the USA used to have cause these people know deep down they're vulnerable without their inherited way of life.

Basically someone who's used to have power and they feel it slipping away. So they look for it anywhere like a fiend
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Ah yes the tucker carlson 'replacement theory' scare. Hitler used that same terminology to dehumanize Jews. Nothing new under the sun.

I've only met 2 kinds of trumpers, the low income kind... easily led... believing the bs. Or the higher earner who understands politics is two sides of the same coin, and will accept the outright sexism and racism, no matter how loud, in order to preserve their low tax rate.

Democrats are also racists they just hide it better under a guise of moral superiority.

I still can't stop laughing about the fact that Marjorie Taylor Green owns stock in covid vaccine manufactures (multiple ones). You don't even need to look far to see the hypocrisy. Idk what is more insulting, the laziness in not hiding your lies and inconsistencies... or the expectation that your constituents are too dumb to put 2 and 2 together.
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The first rule of being part of a cult is to never question the cult leaders motives or ideology. Your job is to follow blindly and shut out outside noise with the FAKE NEWS mantra. Critical thinking is not required or encouraged.

I actually get along with a lot of Trumpers/Trumpets cause they have good surface common sense and self respect although a bit diluded. I can't really relate to a lot of the ultra progressives cause I don't really think they believe in themselves

Now knowing how they think and what they tend to believe, theyre really not wrong on a lot of things (some sort of common sense) the problem arises when they run into any sort of problem or inconvenience, they go batshit or depressed. And they can't really operate on any other level than being ignorant of some fundamentals, same goes for the lefties too. Cause politics is never gonna satisfy everyone.

So as far as Russia, they don't really care about any of that stuff, all they see is a leader with resources and military and they automatically respect, they're kinda dog minded, they function on primitive flight or fight.

They want to have that basic respect the USA used to have cause these people know deep down they're vulnerable without their inherited way of life.

Basically someone who's used to have power and they feel it slipping away. So they look for it anywhere like a fiend

Ah yes the tucker carlson 'replacement theory' scare. Hitler used that same terminology to dehumanize Jews. Nothing new under the sun.

I've only met 2 kinds of trumpers, the low income kind... easily led... believing the bs. Or the higher earner who understands politics is two sides of the same coin, and will accept the outright sexism and racism, no matter how loud, in order to preserve their low tax rate.

Democrats are also racists they just hide it better under a guise of moral superiority.

I still can't stop laughing about the fact that Marjorie Taylor Green owns stock in covid vaccine manufactures (multiple ones). You don't even need to look far to see the hypocrisy. Idk what is more insulting, the laziness in not hiding your lies and inconsistencies... or the expectation that your constituents are too dumb to put 2 and 2 together.

Actually the laziness is the biggest problem imo.

Lazy on both sides. Reps thinking theyre entitled putting the minimum amount of work or lying their way through life.

Dems thinking they're entitled to their inclusion while screwing over everyone else

Laziness and or willful ignorance. But US was founded on those principles so not really a way out of it
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I think the biggest problem is how you can buy your way in. I know, capitalist society... it comes with the territory.

If we could eliminate the electoral college, get rid of super PAC's, limit purchasable political adds, and not allow acting politicians to own over a certain amount of stock we might have a more equitable system. It would be a start. We'd certainly have more average people running for office, not bought out by corporations or career politicians. We'd have more people participate, period. People don't vote because they know their vote doesn't count.

We nonironically need to stop "blessing" third world countries with our idea of democracy and first make sure that this experiment works here and now.

I have this fantasy of being able to vote with your tax money. You get to decide what percentage goes where. Let the money speak. And in this case the people, cause we tax billionaires and their corporations pennies... its the middle and lower income brackets that pay for everything in this country.
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I was finally relieved when my Libra friend showed some dislike for Trump. We were way out in the stick in Ohio, and someone had painted Trump on the entire side of their barn. He was actually acting appalled by it, an instantly I was like "Right? Anyone who is going to worship any type of political human that much has a deep problem." He actually agreed, which is amazing! I just silently thought to myself "The illusion is finally wearing off for most." And I believe that. He knew I hated Trump and Biden with every inch of my being, so he would never get hard-core Trump supporter on me, but I knew he was. Simply because he had no problem with him. The only thing we agreed on was Biden being a worthless old man who needs to retire, or simply die. Though those terrible American politicians tend to be immortal for some reason. Anyway the fact he was appalled by something Trump related is truly progression imo. I makes me feel hope for others who are easily fooled by 100% of all American politicians. That is till someone else comes along and can not only pretend to relate to peoples emotions and problems, but say it in a way that makes them chant their name!