Freemansonry

I really want to join, is it worth it? http://www.nymasons.org/

Don't you have to be invited?

It's not like "I want to join the squash club"........I think there is more to it.

The only way you'll find out if its worth it for you is by trying to joining them. Your home is where you're happy 🙂

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Just watch for the secret handshake/message/sign, when you least expect it!😛

what do you mean?

as far as i understood from the application you can either be invited or you can try inviting yourself, now im a pretty interesting character involved in several interesting things ordinary people dont get involved in i think id catch their attention, i just am not sure if its worth it and what its all about, they are being very vague, though when u research them everywhere else its a super secret club that rules the world

You're not even old enough yet...?

You also need references from at least one other Mason, so if you don't have that, you're SOL.

Like RNAP said, it's not like you can just go sign up and do it...

Posted by rockyroadicecream
You're not even old enough yet...?

You also need references from at least one other Mason, so if you don't have that, you're SOL.

Like RNAP said, it's not like you can just go sign up and do it...

yes thats right you can either get a reference from a brother or 3 random people who know you.

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Posted by KingOfAries

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Just watch for the secret handshake/message/sign, when you least expect it!😛

what do you mean?

I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but here's a variety of them.

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you should invite me

Posted by KingOfAries

Posted by rockyroadicecream
You're not even old enough yet...?

You also need references from at least one other Mason, so if you don't have that, you're SOL.

Like RNAP said, it's not like you can just go sign up and do it...

yes thats right you can either get a reference from a brother or 3 random people who know you.

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Nope. It said at least one brother and three other people.

"You must be of good character and reputation. You??ll have to provide evidence of living a positive life through references from at least one Mason and three other people."

Posted by cowpuncher
I'm related to several Mason's, there are a lot of myths out there about them that are BS. They are a great philanthropic organisation that donates a LOT of money to charity... often to small causes that fall through the cracks. They *always* do so anonymously, though it is of course well known that they are deeply involved with Shriner's Hospitals for Children (Who will score BIGTIME if I ever do make my Billions someday).

I know for a fact, all you have to do to start the process of joining the Masons is to contact a Mason and ask to join. They do not solicit membership, they believe it is better to wait until somebody asks to join. Then you will apply for membership and they will guide you through it.

The true purpose of the Freemasons is "To make good men into better men". It is a good organisation, doing good works, made up of men who seek to improve themselves. I do plan to join someday myself. 🙂

Contact the local lodge. I think you will find them to be very friendly and welcoming. Good luck!

so is it like a sect that always collects money off you? what are the responsibilities? what if im busy? i just dont want to become a part of organization that uses me you know what im saying? if its mutual beneficial then id love to join, cause if u give a little help to everyone and then everyone gives little help to u if in need it counts for a lot

Do it!!!! It is a wonderful organization! They will NEVER ask or invite you to join. To be one, ask one! They want to make sure you want to be a part of them. They will give you a petition and you will have to find some masons in that lodge to sign off on you. Its a process, but it is VERY worthwhile.

Like Cowpuncher said, there are a lot of myths, 99% FALSE! Those are made up by people who have NO idea what they are talking about.

They do a lot of charitable good and are an amazing organization!

PM me if you want. I know quite a bit.

Posted by truecap
Do it!!!! It is a wonderful organization! They will NEVER ask or invite you to join. To be one, ask one! They want to make sure you want to be a part of them. They will give you a petition and you will have to find some masons in that lodge to sign off on you. Its a process, but it is VERY worthwhile.

Like Cowpuncher said, there are a lot of myths, 99% FALSE! Those are made up by people who have NO idea what they are talking about.

They do a lot of charitable good and are an amazing organization!

PM me if you want. I know quite a bit.

how can u know a lot youre a female they DO NOT ALLOW FEMALES in the club

Posted by cowpuncher
NO they aren't always collecting money off of you. However if one of your brother masons at the lodge dies, and say... leaves behind a widow and a couple kids, they will be approached at some point by one of the lodge members, gently asked if they are doing okay and if they need any help. In that case, I do believe the guys all try to pony up whatever cash they can, and it would probably be looked upon poorly if a guy refused... but $ 50 is all you had, I don't think anybody would complain about that from what I know. They don't expect you to be a money tree that can be shaken. Chances are the only money you will be giving them is your regular dues, which are low.

Oh, likewise, if YOU kick off and take a dirt nap, and leave a wife and kids behind, your brother masons will be coming by and making sure YOUR wife and kids aren't going to go hungry. Food for thought. Yes, it is mutually beneficial.

what are the fees how much, the rummors do not scare me they are the reason i want to join, i have a feeling that there is more to what you both are saying because i checked their library all they have is weirdest books check urself follow the ling i posted on page 1. I just want to know whether it is an elite club that gives u some sort of authority, say, or benefits you in any way, if they accept every john from idaho im not interested, i like unique elite exclusive things

Posted by cowpuncher
There are a lot of very general, generic things you will know just by being the son, daughter, wife, or sibling of a Mason and asking simple questions. You don't get to know any of the 'secret' info, but it's fine for your family to know very general things like that Masonry does a lot of anonymous charity, Brother Masons are supposed to help one another when one is in need or (in the event of a Mason's death) make sure his family does not go hungry, etc.

why is charity anonymous

It looks like you're looking to get into it for all the wrong reasons.

"HUR I WANT TO BE CONSIDERED SPESHUL."

Posted by rockyroadicecream
It looks like you're looking to get into it for all the wrong reasons.

"HUR I WANT TO BE CONSIDERED SPESHUL."

1. I am special.
2. My reasons are not wrong, since they are my reasons they are always right.

Posted by KingOfAries

Posted by truecap
Do it!!!! It is a wonderful organization! They will NEVER ask or invite you to join. To be one, ask one! They want to make sure you want to be a part of them. They will give you a petition and you will have to find some masons in that lodge to sign off on you. Its a process, but it is VERY worthwhile.

Like Cowpuncher said, there are a lot of myths, 99% FALSE! Those are made up by people who have NO idea what they are talking about.

They do a lot of charitable good and are an amazing organization!

PM me if you want. I know quite a bit.

how can u know a lot youre a female they DO NOT ALLOW FEMALES in the club

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My father and ex husband are both masons, as well as several cousins. I am in the female organization associated with the masons for wives, daughters, etc of members of the masonic community. I know quite a bit about the culture, beliefs, activities, etc. Granted, I don't know the secret stuff but I do know enough to know they are not a cult. Most of the masons are pillars of the community and are honest, good-hearted Christians. Just good people.

Here is an example of the reputations of masons: My dad has a truckdriver friend who was across country and ate at a diner. Before the meal had arrived, the waitress noticed his belt buckle and asked about his lodge and they had a conversation about it. He had lost his wallet, but didn't notice until after eating and the check arrived. The waitress offered to pay for his meal. The driver got her address to send her reimbursement and asked her why she was willing to pay for his meal. She said, "because you're a mason. I know you're good for it."
She didn't know him from Adam, but trusted he would be good on his word. Btw, he did send her money back to her. True Story!

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Posted by cowpuncher
There are a lot of very general, generic things you will know just by being the son, daughter, wife, or sibling of a Mason and asking simple questions. You don't get to know any of the 'secret' info, but it's fine for your family to know very general things like that Masonry does a lot of anonymous charity, Brother Masons are supposed to help one another when one is in need or (in the event of a Mason's death) make sure his family does not go hungry, etc.

why is charity anonymous

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Charity is anonymous because its the Christian way. They don't want to draw attention to where the charity came from. They are not in it for the recognition, they just want to help.

The masons run a hospital here in Texas that is charity based for children born with orthopedic and neurological birth defects so that they can receive surgery and have those issues corrected and a chance at a normal life. They also fit children who have lost limbs due to accidents or disease with prosthetics so they can function as a normal child. They will even engineer and design special prosthetics for kids who play sports, golf, etc. These kids would not be able to afford this medical care at any other facility.

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Posted by cowpuncher
NO they aren't always collecting money off of you. However if one of your brother masons at the lodge dies, and say... leaves behind a widow and a couple kids, they will be approached at some point by one of the lodge members, gently asked if they are doing okay and if they need any help. In that case, I do believe the guys all try to pony up whatever cash they can, and it would probably be looked upon poorly if a guy refused... but $ 50 is all you had, I don't think anybody would complain about that from what I know. They don't expect you to be a money tree that can be shaken. Chances are the only money you will be giving them is your regular dues, which are low.

Oh, likewise, if YOU kick off and take a dirt nap, and leave a wife and kids behind, your brother masons will be coming by and making sure YOUR wife and kids aren't going to go hungry. Food for thought. Yes, it is mutually beneficial.

what are the fees how much, the rummors do not scare me they are the reason i want to join, i have a feeling that there is more to what you both are saying because i checked their library all they have is weirdest books check urself follow the ling i posted on page 1. I just want to know whether it is an elite club that gives u some sort of authority, say, or benefits you in any way, if they accept every john from idaho im not interested, i like unique elite exclusive things

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Depending on the lodge, membership dues are about $ 60 a year, maybe more, maybe less. They don't accept just anyone. Must have a good reputation in your community and must not have a criminal record. As a collective whole, world wide, they are a very influential organization.

Well paying for my lunch.. thing is if I could get favors like being able to invest in military, or being pushed to higher authority ranks, I am gonna become a doctor so I guess it would look good on my app that I help people but I'll specialize in dentistry, showing my interest in helping people really has nothing to do with treating peoples teeth you know what I'm saying? Unless they could push me through to a unique dental research and such, but if its just to gather money and be fair and help help each other it sounds very very "liberal" I'm not a mother Teresa I don't give a crap about ppl I don't know unless they actually are my responsibility or family or friend..

What you told me still does not explain their weird as shyt library, just go on that website and see what kind of messed up stuff they have

Posted by KingOfAries

1. I am special.

Special ed.

2. My reasons are not wrong, since they are my reasons they are always right.

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Really? Aren't you the self proclaimed pre med student who can't even grasp the basic concepts of biology?

Whatever the case, if this works out for you, yay. You're just coming off very arrogant and naive, as usual. From what's been pointed out about this organization, it sounds like you're getting into it for the wrong reasons. You want the status, not to help the cause. Good luck getting accepted. If I can see this bs from a mile away via text, I'm sure they'll be able to see it asap.

Why don't you contact a local mason and talk to him? He could answer any and all of your questions.

This site may help:
http://www.masonic-lodges.com/index.html<BR>
Most of those books published are done so by people who have no idea what they are talking about. There is a lot of theory by people who don't have a clue. The secrecy becomes an issue with some. College fraternities have secret words and handshakes and they don't get questioned about that.

If you are not into it for the anonymous works and becoming a better person, and you don't really care about other people or the brotherhood, then it sounds like you're not cut out for the masons.

Posted by cowpuncher
Honestly, if you're looking to the Masons as something to join to seek power and authority, I think you're going to be disappointed, even if you manage to actually join.

I know, and am related to, a whole bunch of Masons. Thus far, none of them has turned out to be the Super Secret Grand Poobah of the area, or a mob boss, or a mighty wizard, or a bigwig in the "New World Order" and so forth.


What you won't find are the marching orders from the 7th level grand high wizard for the date that the New World Order takes over the earth and you ride bug-like Aliens into battle in servitude to your Martian masters. No, not so much. Leave that to all of the "authors" with some "New book of explosive revelations!" full of unverifiable BS.

lol quite humorous, but those men that you know that are masons are they successful?

Posted by rockyroadicecream

Posted by KingOfAries

1. I am special.

Special ed.

2. My reasons are not wrong, since they are my reasons they are always right.

Really? Aren't you the self proclaimed pre med student who can't even grasp the basic concepts of biology?

Whatever the case, if this works out for you, yay. You're just coming off very arrogant and naive, as usual. From what's been pointed out about this organization, it sounds like you're getting into it for the wrong reasons. You want the status, not to help the cause. Good luck getting accepted. If I can see this bs from a mile away via text, I'm sure they'll be able to see it asap.

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1. In your mighty dreams

2. No im not a self proclaimed pre med student, i am a pre med student, that hasnt once mentioned anything about biology by the way, but okay

If its sissy and retarded im not gonna join.

Posted by truecap
Why don't you contact a local mason and talk to him? He could answer any and all of your questions.

This site may help:
http://www.masonic-lodges.com/index.html<BR>
Most of those books published are done so by people who have no idea what they are talking about. There is a lot of theory by people who don't have a clue. The secrecy becomes an issue with some. College fraternities have secret words and handshakes and they don't get questioned about that.

If you are not into it for the anonymous works and becoming a better person, and you don't really care about other people or the brotherhood, then it sounds like you're not cut out for the masons.

yeah but the funny thing is, Freemansonry is the tip of the iceberg, it includes illuminati, scull and bones, and other powerful groups or so called "societies," if it was simply an "anonymous fraternity charity club ran by government" they would go instinct like every other not so big organization. What I am implying is that all this anonymous donation fraternity crap is just a mask, and only high rank people in the small circle have the power. No I didnt watch scary conspiracy videos or read conspiracy books, its funny, because i started researching scull and bones of Harward and illuminati clubs which everyone knows - exist, and it took me days where i started reading stuff finding related people, then i even started comparing symbols, went as far as connecting symbols on the dollar bill (the great seal) and researching some of them in my college library, then i finally came to the MAIN GROUP that has every other "secret society" under it, and it turns out to be the innocent "brotherfuker anonymous fraternity charity club with gay handshakes" come on people what is this a third grade?, this is a charade, its a mask for something bigger, big influential people would not do this crap because big influential people want to be bigger and more influential and have more power.

And as far as it goes with actual occult of powerful people - its real, ive seen evidence its all over the internet, google bohemian grove, owners of this country doing mock human sacrifices every summer july 15th is kind of an abnormal thing to do.

As far as it goes with me joining them its a big nono.

Posted by KingOfAries

2. No im not a self proclaimed pre med student, i am a pre med student, that hasnt once mentioned anything about biology by the way, but okay

It happened ages ago.

Also, you might want to know this for anatomy, but it's "skull," not "scull." 🙂

thats what i said, fu??k you

There are some very powerful people that are masons. Whether its because they are masons or achieved that power on their own, is unknown. Like I said, as a collective whole, it is a very influential organization.

Many men join for business contacts - brothers will do business with brothers. They trust each other. It can be as simple as in a small town which store you buy your hardware at or as complicated as high ranking politics.

You will never get your answers until you become one. And, then there are levels of degrees. More information is learned as you move up through the degrees.

But, what you have said so far, it doesn't seem like you are the type they would want in their organization. On your comments, it doesn't seem to me you have the right stuff and are of the right quality of person to be one. Just sayin'.

Posted by truecap
There are some very powerful people that are masons. Whether its because they are masons or achieved that power on their own, is unknown. Like I said, as a collective whole, it is a very influential organization.

Many men join for business contacts - brothers will do business with brothers. They trust each other. It can be as simple as in a small town which store you buy your hardware at or as complicated as high ranking politics.

You will never get your answers until you become one. And, then there are levels of degrees.

But, what you have said so far, it doesn't seem like you are the type they would want in their organization. On your comments, it doesn't seem to me you have the right stuff and are of the right quality of person to be one. Just sayin'.

I see what you're saying, i see why u say i dont have right qualities too its okay i take your criticism, interesting u mentioned "more info is learned as u move up" cause as i understood from their dumb website its only 3 degrees where the only thing u bacically get to do differently is a handshake. I will certainly investigate more and try to get some literature, if it is promising then i will indeed join them, and i will have the right attitude so no worries, i can look pretty decent and innocent if i need to

So you want to manipulate your way into the organization by pretending to be something you're not?

get lost stupid crap/b