Not good enough for my family.

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Ever since I can remember I??ve been scapegoated in my family. When I was really little everyone used to chant names and tell me I wouldn't ever do anything with my life, or that I was incapable of being a decent person. It's always been me vs. all my brothers and sisters (while my mom was just neutral between us all) because of this I used to have a very low-self esteem, until I got into all these leadership programs, lost weight, and got a much higher self-esteem. But my family still treats me like a piece of shit, it's like they never realized I'm a person with feelings, like them. They??ve treated me this way so long. They act like I'm still the person they made me into 5 years ago (but I escaped from that person).

My Mom is a Virgo and my sister is a Gemini. It's really horrible for me. My mom is extremely judgmental and has high expectations/standards that I never meet. On top of this, if my mom ever does happen to find me —exceptional?? my Gemini sister does everything she can to convince my mom that I'm still a bad kid. She also convinces my three brothers to do the same. But I have perfect grades (high school), over 4??000 volunteer hours, I'm in ASB, I have a drivers license, a job, a car (I pay for my car insurance, and paid for over half the car), I??ve never touched drugs/alcohol or had a serious boyfriend, and I'm setup for a full ride NROTC scholarship to college.

My mom and I got into a huge fight last Sunday where she essentially told me again that I am a failure (because the cookies I made for mother??s day weren't —good enough?? and the fight escalated from there..). I really don't know what else I'm supposed to do. I'm tired of caring so much about what my family thinks while they sit back and treat me like a piece of shit. I cried a lot after the fight. I want to cut ties with my family and move on, I'm sick of letting them get to me.
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oh i am sorry you family treats you badly there is no excuse for that.

i grew up with my sister we are pathernal twins and she is a gimini too lol

we didnt get along very well when we were growing up, in the morning we would like wtf yell and scream at eachother all the time. so we both realize better not to talk to eachother in he morning lol so we dont.

if i did anything wrong she would save it to herself, and wait until she did nothing wrong and she would say if you tell on me ill tell on you LOL really emature like that.
but if gimini have conservative side its not their best becaue they expect everyone to be better than what they really are just like they think they are better than everyone.

anyways best thing to do is sit down with your mom individually and try to just talk to her about how you feel. i am a gimini and i am telling you the shit that Aries find abusive and offensive gimini think is no big deal that life deal with it i can so you should too. they dont know how much it effects you.
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you seem like a good kid to me. i would be very proud of you if you were my daughter.
your family members have yet to realize your true value and it's such a shame.

you need to understand that this is NOT your fault. if you know that you are not giving them any reason to dislike you/treat you unfairly, then you need to hold your head up high and act like you've done nothing wrong because it's true that you have done nothing wrong. it is not you. it's them.
don't take their words/actions towards you personally.
don't let them damage your self-esteem no matter what. i know this is easy for me to say because i'm not the one going through the abuse you're going through but i mean it. don't take anything they say or do personally.

know that you are valuable. know that you are worth so much more than they'll ever know.
keep your head up high. live your life like you have nothing to be sorry about.

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Posted by geminiinlove
oh i am sorry you family treats you badly there is no excuse for that.

i grew up with my sister we are pathernal twins and she is a gimini too lol

we didnt get along very well when we were growing up, in the morning we would like wtf yell and scream at eachother all the time. so we both realize better not to talk to eachother in he morning lol so we dont.

if i did anything wrong she would save it to herself, and wait until she did nothing wrong and she would say if you tell on me ill tell on you LOL really emature like that.
but if gimini have conservative side its not their best becaue they expect everyone to be better than what they really are just like they think they are better than everyone.

anyways best thing to do is sit down with your mom individually and try to just talk to her about how you feel. i am a gimini and i am telling you the shit that Aries find abusive and offensive gimini think is no big deal that life deal with it i can so you should too. they dont know how much it effects you.



I have tried to speak with them about it before. Many times. But I took it for so many years without saying anything they seem to think I'm over dramatic about it when I say something now. It's just that they will verbally tear everything I'm passionate about, when I'm in the room but especially when I'm not (walls are thinner the they think..) and when I get mad about it, they get mad at me. Tell me not to rock the boat or that I'm lying and they would never say anything like that.

??_and I stay mad, but they just shrug it off and try to treat me like family again. Pretend everything??s perfect. Until someone has some steam to blow off, and they need to take it out on me, or I make even the teensiest mistake. I can't deal with it anymore. After I move out I dunno if I??ll keep in contact with any of them.
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Posted by AiryBri


My mom and I got into a huge fight last Sunday where she essentially told me again that I am a failure (because the cookies I made for mother??s day weren't —good enough?? and the fight escalated from there..). I really don't know what else I'm supposed to do. I'm tired of caring so much about what my family thinks while they sit back and treat me like a piece of shit. I cried a lot after the fight. I want to cut ties with my family and move on, I'm sick of letting them get to me.



Strange story by the way...

Are you setting out to have perfect records in life for your family or for yourself?

$ 0.02...
You can choose your friends but you can't choose your family so it is not easy to tell you to break ties with your family.

The only thing I can say is it is time to build a lot of material ties/achievements/savings in the bank (where you do not have to go to family for financial help) and emotional ties with very good friends (so you do not have to depend on family for emotional fulfillment). Aries is a fairly independent sign but you can easily get rocked emotionally, start getting busy and building stronger walls... should help you see things a bit clearer and take your mind of negatives. As you get more confidence in yourself, you can start to communicate reasonably or sarcasm really works too

i.e. "Mom, really? Failure because of cookies? We should have a movie made of this legendary occasion"


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Back in February on the Virgo board, we went through some of this ... you told us that your mother won't stop judgeing you, and doesn't believe in you.

She's not going to change, and niether is your sister. How is your relationship with your brothers?

You'll be starting college next year, right? Good for you .. just keep your focus on your future, and disregard the Virgo and Gemini. You stop them from being terrible people, so try to put your energy into being everything you can be.


The last thing you want to do is have baggage you carry around that makes you miserable because then it will haunt you no matter where you go .... clear your mind of how they mistreat you and only think about tomorrow.
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Posted by jordankyte
i'm gonna wait until he finishes highschool. he's 15 right now (will be 16 in december).
me and him have already discussed this. he knows that i'm serious. i'm saving up money right now so in about 4 or 5 years, we'll have enough money to move to europe. we already have european citizenship because our mom is originally from france and she obtained french passports for us when we were little.

i don't think i'm being unrealistic or hasty. i have 4 to 5 more years to make this a reality for me and my little brother. i also wanna take my mom with us but i'm not so sure if she'll agree to come. i'm gonna try to convince her when the time is right. i need to convince her to get a divorce first. it's obvious that she is unhappy in her current situation.

i would encourage this OP to do the same sorta thing. move to another region/country and be free.



convincing your mom to go with you isn't going to be easy.
it'll be very hard for your mom to have to leave one of her sons behind in the states and move to france. mothers and fathers (at least the decent ones) have a strong sense of responsibility towards their kids that prevents them from doing things like that...
i don't know how messed up your older brother is at the moment or how bad the situation is between your mom and dad due to his infidelity but you'll need to get everyone involved and get everything sorted out before making a big decision like this....
but then there's a part of me that wants to support you and root for you because this move that you're planning might possibily become a much-needed wake up call for your dad and older brother. maybe they'll straighten out...i dunno but you certainly deserve to be happy and be free of all this negativity. everyone has a right to be happy.




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Sorry to rain on the parade:

1) Running away from a country doesn't actually give you any type of closure, neither does it solve the issue
2) Europe is not a bed of roses to survive, I would know. Unemployment rate for the young folks is sky high
3) You are making some assumptions and jumping the gun for your momma who may actually be right where she wants to be, you will be very hurt if she rejects your ideas (you may think "how can she possibly be happy?", but that is out of your control)
4) Your 15 year old brother is too young to know what he wants, don't decide for him just yet, let his parents be responsible for him partly while you do what you can when you can
5) What jobs or education do you have to enable you secure a very good job to realise this plan consistently?

I am asking you to look again, take a deep breathe, you can't save everyone but you may end up ruining your long term plans if you don't know what your limitations are.
Baby steps are needed to ensure you are living the examples you want to see around you.
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I have tried to speak with them about it before. Many times. But I took it for so many years without saying anything they seem to think I'm over dramatic about it when I say something now. It's just that they will verbally tear everything I'm passionate about, when I'm in the room but especially when I'm not (walls are thinner the they think..) and when I get mad about it, they get mad at me. Tell me not to rock the boat or that I'm lying and they would never say anything like that.

??_and I stay mad, but they just shrug it off and try to treat me like family again. Pretend everything??s perfect. Until someone has some steam to blow off, and they need to take it out on me, or I make even the teensiest mistake. I can't deal with it anymore. After I move out I dunno if I??ll keep in contact with any of them.


i know this is how you feel now but its is not how you will always feel trust me it happens to everyone specially with a gimini girl in the family we know better than eveyone in the room. they treat the way they treat cause you bounce back i am sure but three girl in any sign can be trouble. you are extreemly sensitive its true please believe me. the world as you see it is made of flufy pink clouds gems world is more like full of happynees and anger and sadness all in one minute. we change ver suddenly especially if feel treatend or hurt.
to make peace with a gem you got to beat her at her own game. its really easy just ignore her she will get really mad but eventually she will realize she has hur your feelings. gems love attention. so just dont give her any until she is ready to apologize. i am sure she loves you very much. i love my sister and she loves me. even though once she stab my leg with pencil and i smashed her stereo system and then step on it. if you are going agains a gem be ready to throw shit around break what ever it is they value the most LOL. until you mom separates you too. trust she will try to hurt you with what ever she knows will hurt you the most. but she still your sister and she will change as she gets older and so will you. so stop being a weakling and get tough i think is what they want you to do. which is good for you. the world in not pink and full of clouds. anyways i hope this helps
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Jordan I hear you and that is a tough spot to be in growing up. And I think Jesse had it spot on when he said it. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Its NOT your fault. Truthfully though it will take some time to undo this type of thinking when you are finally on your own. Its definitely worth it though. Just remember your life choices are yours and yours alone. Once you start moving through life grow from this and you will be twice as strong as most you know.
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I have tried to speak with them about it before. Many times. But I took it for so many years without saying anything they seem to think I'm over dramatic about it when I say something now. It's just that they will verbally tear everything I'm passionate about, when I'm in the room but especially when I'm not (walls are thinner the they think..) and when I get mad about it, they get mad at me. Tell me not to rock the boat or that I'm lying and they would never say anything like that.

??_and I stay mad, but they just shrug it off and try to treat me like family again. Pretend everything??s perfect. Until someone has some steam to blow off, and they need to take it out on me, or I make even the teensiest mistake. I can't deal with it anymore. After I move out I dunno if I??ll keep in contact with any of them.


i know this is how you feel now but its is not how you will always feel trust me it happens to everyone specially with a gimini girl in the family we know better than eveyone in the room. they treat the way they treat cause you bounce back i am sure but three girl in any sign can be trouble. you are extreemly sensitive its true please believe me. the world as you see it is made of flufy pink clouds gems world is more like full of happynees and anger and sadness all in one minute. we change ver suddenly especially if feel treatend or hurt.
to make peace with a gem you got to beat her at her own game. its really easy just ignore her she will get really mad but eventually she will realize she has hur your feelings. gems love attention. so just dont give her any until she is ready to apologize. i am sure she loves you very much. i love my sister and she loves me. even though once she stab my leg with pencil and i smashed her stereo system and then step on it. if you are going agains a gem be ready to throw shit around break what ever it is they value the most LOL. until you mom separates you too. trust she will try to hurt you with what ever she knows will hurt you the most. but she still your sister and she will change as she gets older and so will you. so stop being a weakling and get tough i think is what they want you to do. which is good for you. the world in not pink and full of clouds. anyways i hope this helps




I'm not sensitive. I have never been offended by a close friend. If I was a sensitive person, I wou
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Posted by geminiinlove
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know this is how you feel now but its is not how you will always feel trust me it happens to everyone specially with a gimini girl in the family we know better than eveyone in the room. they treat the way they treat cause you bounce back i am sure but three girl in any sign can be trouble. you are extreemly sensitive its true please believe me. the world as you see it is made of flufy pink clouds gems world is more like full of happynees and anger and sadness all in one minute. we change ver suddenly especially if feel treatend or hurt.
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I'm not sensitive. I have never been offended by a close friend. If I was a sensitive person, I wouldn't have friendships that have lasted years without issues. My moon is a virgo, my "kind" is known for being unemotional and detached lol. It takes a lot to hurt me.

So um not true. I'm not sensitive at all. But I care about what my FAMILY thinks about me. And they all HATE me. And always have. I don't deserve to be treated that way. Don't judge my sensitivity level, you don't know me. The only people that can get to me are the people that I care about, because they know me, and I expect them to know that when they are hurting me, and I tell them they are hurting me, they will at least listen. At least hear me out. But my family won't even do that??_ I can't deal with the rejection of it anymore. It hurts. That's all that should matter to them, but it doesn't, and I don't think it ever will.
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Posted by geminiinlove
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know this is how you feel now but its is not how you will always feel trust me it happens to everyone specially with a gimini girl in the family we know better than eveyone in the room. they treat the way they treat cause you bounce back i am sure but three girl in any sign can be trouble. you are extreemly sensitive its true please believe me. the world as you see it is made of flufy pink clouds gems world is more like full of happynees and anger and sadness all in one minute. we change ver suddenly especially if feel treatend or hurt.
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I'm not sensitive. I have never been offended by a close friend. If I was a sensitive person, I wouldn't have friendships that have lasted years without issues. My moon is a virgo, my "kind" is known for being unemotional and detached lol. It takes a lot to hurt me.

So um not true. I'm not sensitive at all. But I care about what my FAMILY thinks about me. And they all HATE me. And always have. I don't deserve to be treated that way. Don't judge my sensitivity level, you don't know me. The only people that can get to me are the people that I care about, because they know me, and I expect them to know that when they are hurting me, and I tell them they are hurting me, they will at least listen. At least hear me out. But my family won't even do that??_ I can't deal with the rejection of it anymore. It hurts. That's all that should matter to them, but it doesn't, and I don't think it ever will.

look i have only dealt with my family and they have dont hurtful things that feel wrong too. but i get over it cause i know they love me. but honestly i dont think they were ever able to hurt my feelings. i just dont care when they yell or try to controll me or argue with me. i just yell right back and fuck you and go eat shit if they deserve it. and than slam my door and slam my door and i dont gry and do anything about it. i just get really pist off. and then if want to just leave out the front door i do i dont really care if how they feel. cause they pist me off. so i get that part. look i am just saying you dont have to take their shit if they pist you off your tell them with word or yell i dont care. just tell them to go fuck them selfs. get your feelings out. the next morning you should see a change and silence in the room. gimini are really good at pissing people off.
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Posted by AiryBri
Ever since I can remember I??ve been scapegoated in my family. When I was really little everyone used to chant names and tell me I wouldn't ever do anything with my life, or that I was incapable of being a decent person. It's always been me vs. all my brothers and sisters (while my mom was just neutral between us all) because of this I used to have a very low-self esteem, until I got into all these leadership programs, lost weight, and got a much higher self-esteem. But my family still treats me like a piece of shit, it's like they never realized I'm a person with feelings, like them. They??ve treated me this way so long. They act like I'm still the person they made me into 5 years ago (but I escaped from that person).

My Mom is a Virgo and my sister is a Gemini. It's really horrible for me. My mom is extremely judgmental and has high expectations/standards that I never meet. On top of this, if my mom ever does happen to find me —exceptional?? my Gemini sister does everything she can to convince my mom that I'm still a bad kid. She also convinces my three brothers to do the same. But I have perfect grades (high school), over 4??000 volunteer hours, I'm in ASB, I have a drivers license, a job, a car (I pay for my car insurance, and paid for over half the car), I??ve never touched drugs/alcohol or had a serious boyfriend, and I'm setup for a full ride NROTC scholarship to college.

My mom and I got into a huge fight last Sunday where she essentially told me again that I am a failure (because the cookies I made for mother??s day weren't —good enough?? and the fight escalated from there..). I really don't know what else I'm supposed to do. I'm tired of caring so much about what my family thinks while they sit back and treat me like a piece of shit. I cried a lot after the fight. I want to cut ties with my family and move on, I'm sick of letting them get to me.



i cant believe you're so strong and yet you havent realized that the CORE reason your siblings treat you the way they do is because of jealousy. they might not even know this but its true. i can relate to the situation with your mother, mine was the same way and i hated her until i grew to learn that thats just how she was. when i was 15 i broke from my family and lived with good friends and im still doing that. i can safely say that since you dealt with
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i cant believe you're so strong and yet you havent realized that the CORE reason your siblings treat you the way they do is because of jealousy. they might not even know this but its true. i can relate to the situation with your mother, mine was the same way and i hated her until i grew to learn that thats just how she was. when i was 15 i broke from my family and lived with good friends and im still doing that. i can safely say that since you dealt with all this shit in your childhood you couldnt begin to imagine how much of a better person this will make you in the future. my advice is to do what you think is right and try your best not to hold grudges and instead of dwelling in the past-learn from it.