Any other aries mean ? (too honest/blunt)

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@AiryBri
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I've been 'being my unfiltered self' much more lately because I got a lot of new/closer friends. But I've been told a lot that I am "mean" lol. They don't mean it in a negative way -- they get that I'm half joking/exaggerating when I say things. I'm just extremely blunt and I can't help myself. Most of the time it takes someone saying "wow, that was really mean." for me to realize it was (but they are usually laughing about it still...)

I worry I'm over doing it and hurting people I care about's feelings but, it's who I am. So I'm not sure what to do about it. I very rarely hold back on account of something being "mean" especially when I'm kidding around.

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@PlanetMercuryGirl
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Aries people have some of the best personalities that I know of. When they enter a room they have this aura and their not even doing it on purpose. It's contagious. It just makes everyone around them either jealous or instantly in love with their personality. I don't think that I know of any aries people that are intentionally mean. They are very blunt though, but they don't aim to hurt people. They kind of keep it real. Some people can misinterpret their bluntness as being mean.

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@Lady Aries
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The difference between one who can and cannot handle the truth. I was pretty hurt when I was called mean at one time. Doesn't matter how you butter it up, shit is still gonna be shit.

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Posted by starlover
Wow my aries lover, when i first met him, took SO much getting used to....venus in aries too which was very very direct!

After 2yrs i am used to him, but man, he would realllly piss some people off. I am teaching him to try and think before he speaks because at times that over direct manner doesnt work in society....sad but a fact!

x

If more people in "society" were direct and honest the world would be a much healthier place.

*******Telling you to "get it yourself" is unspeakably rude. I hope this was a one-off.

Why are people jealous of us? I have nothing and no-one and have still been the subject of the meanest jealousy imaginable.
I look back and I understand these were "little" people (little = mean/nasty/underhand/sneaky etc) but it still blows my mind whenever I waste time thinking about them.

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Posted by starlover
The first time i was with my aries man, i asked him if he would get something
from the table for me cos he was nearest, he replies "get it yerself", it sounded
so rude the way he came across

Now he is really aware of how he talks to me, cos if he dont he normally gets a "feck
off and cop on to yerself mister". The funny thing is, he is oversensitive to other
peoples' comments...go figure...

Awwww just like a child 🙂
love him!

x

Wow, what kind of aries people am I hearing from here? I don't know of many aries that are mean to this extent (as friends).

Now DATING an aries is SOOOOOO another story. LoL. The women treat their mean so dog mean at times. I wonder why the men stay with them. I guess the sex is good or something, LoL.

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There s no excuse for bad behavior, verbal or otherwise. Every word you speak has an exact intention. This thread has shown me very clearly that Aries women are very alike. My Aries 'friend' used to say something like this too. I thought she was being cute, but soon I understood she wanted the upperhand for it all. If you speak with the intent of hurting someone else, but say that it is being honest, you're lying. Aries girls are very sensitive to verbal hurts themselves, so to say it to someone else and expecting to be pardoned is not forgivable. It shows Aries girls want it their way all the time, no holds barred - even feigning innocence in the process. Utter lack of integrity, you lot. Obviously because you know EXACTLY what you're doing.

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I have witnessed both Aries honesty and dishonesty. But one thing that sticks out is the knifing words Aries use in verbal sparring. No sign can match this - not Leo nor Scorpio. It makes me think majority Aries take self centredness to the max- lack of empathy. It shows from the choices of words they use. To bleed the self esteem of the opponent - from thence can the Aries get the upperhand.

Most of yous do it so exceedingly well I give you kudos.

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By the way, Aries aren't the sign for honesty. What you meant by honesty is directness.
But you gotta admit the reason for Aries demanding honesty fromothers is to get the upperhand. In turn, they themselves keep their own secrets.
And when they are "honest" with someone else, it usually is to put them down or show Aries being superior. Only for the ladies.

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@geminiinlove
15 Years

ok you people are so wrong its not even funny its like you all get together and agree that your right when in reality you are all wrong lmao.

AiryBri

truth is good but if what ever you say can hurt someones feeling dont say it hurting people is never good no matter what other aries girl say they are wrong.

do you like it why hurt your feelings no you dont.

so just keep those comments to your self it hard to see the truth so think about what ever your going to say first.

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@geminiinlove
15 Years

i agree with spcica

very true

they want people to be honest but they lie at will when ever they think its to their advantage lol hypocrits

:-)

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@AiryBri
15 YearsAries

Posted by spica
By the way, Aries aren't the sign for honesty. What you meant by honesty is directness.
But you gotta admit the reason for Aries demanding honesty fromothers is to get the upperhand. In turn, they themselves keep their own secrets.
And when they are "honest" with someone else, it usually is to put them down or show Aries being superior. Only for the ladies.

I think you are generalizing Aries women far too much. Personally, I am almost completely incapable of lying. My face turns bright red and I stutter a lot. If I have to lie, I just keep quiet and make it very obvious that it's a "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" situation. I never sugar coat, just shutup when my words won't help.

The only time that I want things "my way" is when I feel like "my way" will be best for everyone (specifically friends/family), not just myself. Then I will be very direct about how I feel things should be done. If a feel like I am right in the situation, I'm good at manipulating things to be the way they should. This doesn't work if I'm not right (...but I'm good at reading others needs, and compromising them together, so I am right a lot of the time. Though not always. And "my way" is generally a compromise between many other peoples opinions)

What I'm talking about in this thread has no underlying meaning. Simply: My personality is blunt, direct, and humorous. I know how to hold back when it comes to sensitive subjects and I have never seriously offended a single one of my friends. The only people I ever offend are acquaintances because they haven't gotten used to my sharp tongue and I don't know what they are sensitive about/what to stay away from saying yet. But I haven't ever really offended many acquaintances either.

I care very much about the people around me. I feel horrible when I see anyone sad, regardless if I know them well or not; and I'll do anything I can to help them. I'm not a selfless person, but I'm definitely not completely selfish either.

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@geminiinlove
15 Years

look if your my true friend i got your back just dont pist me of of do something like step on my terretory cause i will distroy you.

yea it may take months of planning and waiting patiently but when i am ready your going down. dont fuck with a gimini cause your going down no matter who you are. the more you pist me off and hurt me if your not my lover your can go we dont need you

sorry lol it just we got a real mean streak deep inside so be careful around a gimini we will take your ass down if we think you dont respect us or step into our terretory

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Posted by geminiinlove
look if your my true friend i got your back just dont pist me of of do something like step on my terretory cause i will distroy you.

yea it may take months of planning and waiting patiently but when i am ready your going down. dont fuck with a gimini cause your going down no matter who you are. the more you pist me off and hurt me if your not my lover your can go we dont need you

sorry lol it just we got a real mean streak deep inside so be careful around a gimini we will take your ass down if we think you dont respect us or step into our terretory

Hm.

I have a gemini sister and we don't get along well at all. She reads too far into my actions and tries to make it seem like I'm upto no good, when I'm really just doing my thing/oblivious to her. She's really self-righteous and tries to make me feel bad about myself or my actions "for my own good." I think she's just jealous of my high-self esteem and defensively treats me like a horrible person to hide it.

I don't know if this is the long-term relationship of all gemini/aries females, just an observation up for comparison for the other aries/gemini ladies reading this thread.

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15 Years

I really love aries females I have a sis that's aries and a best friend too and I can confide in them and tell them all my secrets plus I can always count on them when I have trouble

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Posted by AiryBri
I've been 'being my unfiltered self' much more lately because I got a lot of new/closer friends. But I've been told a lot that I am "mean" lol. They don't mean it in a negative way -- they get that I'm half joking/exaggerating when I say things. I'm just extremely blunt and I can't help myself. Most of the time it takes someone saying "wow, that was really mean." for me to realize it was (but they are usually laughing about it still...)

I worry I'm over doing it and hurting people I care about's feelings but, it's who I am. So I'm not sure what to do about it. I very rarely hold back on account of something being "mean" especially when I'm kidding around.

Good that you noticed.
My recommendation, once you see something and your instincts say 'go, blurt it'...don't...always wait a split second.

Why the split second you ask? It give you time to ask yourself the following questions:

- do I really need to say anything?
- Is it any of my business what I think?
- is saying anything really gonna make a difference?
- ^ if yes, then the next question is how do I phrase it so I speak in the language that the person understands (means of delivery changes effectiveness of a comment)
- if no difference will be made, isn't a stupid giggle or smile better than blurting out something you will regret?

Yes, it won't take you long to think of these angles because Aries is a lightning quick thinking sign.
Also the above helps you do the following;

- think a bit more (this makes a lot of difference, Aries is not a sign that needs to sit there thinking and turning everything around, that's not the Fire characteristics, it always has a little Air that helps it burn brighter. The Air is already there, just the split second wait brings it out)
- learn about communicating effectively
- learn about the characters of others, e.g. when you think about what language to use to communicate to someone, you generally try to understand the other person a bit more)

goes on and on, but you get the point and I'm tired of typing

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We aren't mean. People are forever intimidated by us for no reason at all. It is like being afraid of poodles, wtf.

Yes it makes us feel like everyone hates us or doesn't like us, because they say things like that to us.

They want it their way and can't be human enough to let us be who we are, while we let them be who they are.

You got to be who you feel you are, even when people try to tell you not to be. The worst feeling is waking up some day and finding out you aren't being who you want to be.

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Hahaha this has been me lately as well. I am who I am though. I feel we as aries can be very upfront. The friends I have has learned I mean no harm. I tried down playing myself and to be honest it made me miserable. Then there are those who feel I am being judgemental when I'm simply sharing my opinion.

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Anyone on here who is a manager though, I bet on the whole site there's not more than 10 that are respectable

Oh dear! So DXP is a loser-filled site? i.e. we are all in dead-end jobs or students or unemployed? ✨ facepalm ✨

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That was actually a joke following from a convo I was having with Amey over the weekend...but good one, Blingy 😛

What's with the hyper-activity today by the way, Blingy?

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I think UK's having spring now and summer happened like a month ago.
It's very sunny in my parts, unusually so actually, but it's not too warm.
Your sage advice (or should we say lack of ... 😛) is very much welcome.

I'm good, trying to do some work but Monday blues is winning.

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What I find myself doing is pointing out things like we have done this several times, we get the same unacceptable results every time, why are we going to try that losing plan again—?

It seems to me that the "meanness" that a lot of people complain about is simply refusing to play the "Emperor's New Clothes" game. Something is wrong, and it needs to be different, why can't you see that—?

As for naive, what happens here (with me) is that I find the idea of not saying/doing something more repugnant than the resulting/expected negative feedback that I will get. But, pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes tends to piss off the Emperor, so be prepared for the inevitable feedback.
I do understand that some of us Aries can be rather sensitive to negative feedback. The rule is, if you can't take it, don't hand it out. Get used to that rule, Ye Olde Wooly Flock.

As for grudges, nah, Aries don't hold grudges. But Starlover, you may want to mention to your 84 year old grandfather that he should not piss off ReallyNiceAriesPerson I am still aching from those head butts she gave me a couple of weeks ago.

See, no grudge at all, just passing along useful information.....

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Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by red_aries
Antibling, if you got SHIEETTT to chat with the slut, please do it in PM.
Otherwise stop derailing this thread. 🙂

err no ?
🙂

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lol, completely forgot about that clown, blocked the joker ages ago... has an issue with me because apparently, I don't behave Aries enough...I'm guessing that's what this thread is about by "mean"? Bare jokes

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Posted by zenalchemy

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by red_aries
Antibling, if you got SHIEETTT to chat with the slut, please do it in PM.
Otherwise stop derailing this thread. 🙂

err no ?
🙂

lol, completely forgot about that clown, blocked the joker ages ago... has an issue with me because apparently, I don't behave Aries enough...I'm guessing that's what this thread is about by "mean"? Bare jokes

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ugh no..I really think you are a slut.

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Posted by aPiscesPrincess

Posted by AiryBri
I've been 'being my unfiltered self' much more lately because I got a lot of new/closer friends. But I've been told a lot that I am "mean" lol. They don't mean it in a negative way -- they get that I'm half joking/exaggerating when I say things. I'm just extremely blunt and I can't help myself. Most of the time it takes someone saying "wow, that was really mean." for me to realize it was (but they are usually laughing about it still...)

I worry I'm over doing it and hurting people I care about's feelings but, it's who I am. So I'm not sure what to do about it. I very rarely hold back on account of something being "mean" especially when I'm kidding around.

I like the direct/blunt approach.. just say what you mean and mean what you say. lol It's much better than 'beating around the bush'. I guess if your friends have a problem with it then try to work on your tact.. I mean think before you say something to them, and think about if someone else said the same thing to you would it bother you. Then if you realize it would bother you, then try to word it in a way that wouldn't bother others. Or don't say it at all if it's not important. I'm Aries rising so I can be a little too blunt or harsh sometimes too. I notice for me, I'm either too easy going (my Pisces sun) or come across as too harsh or mean sometimes, it's like there's no in between. I'm trying to work on that, but I can't seem to find a happy medium. So I shock people sometimes when I'm all easy going and go with the flow, and then something sets me off and I act more like a drill sergeant lol =/

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Hah! That's pretty funny. Yeah I get the (very good) "be tactful" but "be yourself" advice several people have given in here because it does make sense. Some people have managed to be too blunt or say some mean things to even ME before and I didn't say "Hey that offended me!" or make it obvious that it did (unless I really got offended or really cared about the person who said it, otherwise I just liked that person a little less). Not that it didn't happen but it DOES happen, so I'll watch out for that.

I used to be too easy going too. (I have a mercury in pisces, so I dunno if that has anything to do with it), but in the past couple of years I've changed completely. I think I'm finally gettin

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Posted by ImpressMe

Posted by zenalchemy

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by red_aries
Antibling, if you got SHIEETTT to chat with the slut, please do it in PM.
Otherwise stop derailing this thread. 🙂

err no ?
🙂

lol, completely forgot about that clown, blocked the joker ages ago... has an issue with me because apparently, I don't behave Aries enough...I'm guessing that's what this thread is about by "mean"? Bare jokes

I thought red_aries was joking.

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I used to think it was a joke too 😄
Years ago, he/she/it didn't know my sign and the minute they found out, he/she/it would follow me around on boards trying to prove I was an Aries impostor, calling me all sorts of names you would not believe. Even apparently said I was too nice to be an Aries, it went on and on...blah blah... I blocked the clown asap...
It's a common theme on DXP and even in real life with this whole astrology thing, few bad experiences with the same sign, then all must be that way OR just general expectation of signs to behave a certain way.

Fock it... I come to DXP to play mostly, drop some input here and there but predominantly play... Clearly, DXP is obviously life or death for some Dictators

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Posted by dofacc
What I find myself doing is pointing out things like we have done this several times, we get the same unacceptable results every time, why are we going to try that losing plan again—?

It seems to me that the "meanness" that a lot of people complain about is simply refusing to play the "Emperor's New Clothes" game. Something is wrong, and it needs to be different, why can't you see that—?

As for naive, what happens here (with me) is that I find the idea of not saying/doing something more repugnant than the resulting/expected negative feedback that I will get. But, pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes tends to piss off the Emperor, so be prepared for the inevitable feedback.
I do understand that some of us Aries can be rather sensitive to negative feedback. The rule is, if you can't take it, don't hand it out. Get used to that rule, Ye Olde Wooly Flock.

As for grudges, nah, Aries don't hold grudges. But Starlover, you may want to mention to your 84 year old grandfather that he should not piss off ReallyNiceAriesPerson I am still aching from those head butts she gave me a couple of weeks ago.

See, no grudge at all, just passing along useful information.....

Tough love dofacc, it's just tough love - you know I would never do you any harm.

A society is judged by the way it treats its animals and its old people - 84 years olds are pretty safe from me!!

As a young fry I used to be a frightful walkover but am now a one ram wolf pack🙂

I was about to say that I do hold grudges, but now I can't decide if they are actual grudges or just folk who have been iced.
Is the act of icing considered holding a grudge? Holding a grudge seems like a lot of effort to expend on some azshat that you wouldn't p!ss on if they were on fire.

If you get "life" on my planet there are no pardons and no reprieves.
This is as it should be.

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Posted by aPiscesPrincess

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being blunt is not really so much an Aries sun trait, so much as a Mercury and to an extent an Ascendant trait, unless the sun is aspected to mercury or an asc that tends to be blunt.

That makes sense, since the ascendant is what people see in us at first. And the mercury too, since that's how we communicate. For me I come across blunt because my asc is Aries and my mercury is Pisces.. so my mercury doesn't communicate very well (a typical Pisces mercury trait =/). So it's usually hard for me to explain myself, and then I get frustrated because of it and can't seem to find the 'perfect medium' and instead go to extremes.

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Astrology is a lot deeper than just sun signs, so it was very surprising when i joined most people are just making judgements based on sun signs alone? it's almost like a teen forum or something for everyone to make generalizations based on sun signs...except there's mostly 20+ y.o. on here so the teenage thing doesn't apply

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im the nicest aries you will ever meet, ill never be blunt or mean, i will compromise, im a sweetheart, unless i notice that you are trying to put me down, lie to me, cheat on me, or talk hsit about me behind my back (i can even compromise that though ill still remember everything)- yeah i somehow can sense all that, then yeah, watch out, in other words if i lose my trust you become a nobody to me, therefore i wont care whether i hurt your feelings or not

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All I read from this was "Im an aries. I say things that have really been hurting ppl in my life."
And then I see responses such as "Ur an aries so they better get used to it"

Um no.
If ur hurting ppl u care about and ur unaware zodiac sign or not... now u know. So be nice or learn how to filter urself or zip it completely. Everyone knows theres a truth in "Im just kidding." If it wasnt meant to be hurtful why would u even have to let someone know that it was supposed to be a joke.

Maybe u should find lots of aries ppl to hang out with and when they start givig u low blows and hitting u with the "Oh im just kidding" Maybe ull see it from the other point of view f being humiliated, embarrassed or asahamed.

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well i agree a lot of Aries are quite irrelevant and don't know when its not adequate to be blunt.. but it depends on how you were raised, if your parents are idiots then you will grow up one to be as well, and read my post to see in which cases

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re: initial post

they're certainly vindictive and sensitive like a match stick. slightest friction and poof, up in flames

they like to ignite people and i always curious about what they are thinking when they set someone on fire

they like stirring people and i feel its some kind of attention seeking like an attention deficiency so they explode something so people pay attention to them

to agonise someone for the sake of entertainment is like they are really asking for it

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Posted by zeoblade
re: initial post

they're certainly vindictive and sensitive like a match stick. slightest friction and poof, up in flames

they like to ignite people and i always curious about what they are thinking when they set someone on fire

they like stirring people and i feel its some kind of attention seeking like an attention deficiency so they explode something so people pay attention to them

to agonise someone for the sake of entertainment is like they are really asking for it

i loled at your stereotypes, i ignite only when necessary or when someone really gets to me by being retarded, lazy, slow (like in DMV), If i have to work for example in the lab with a couple of people and they are walking around doing nothing or dont know where to start I become a leader, a very bossy one, I do the the main thing we have to do because i dont trust them, and they are running around helping me with anything i tell them to do, if someone refuses there are couple of ways i can respond - taking to consideration that i already have to lead them, I can tell them something like "if youre not gonna help me with that get the hell out of here, im not doing this to get you a good grade" - thats if the person is a guy, and ill ask him to leave our group, if its a girl, i only have to repeat myself and say do it and they usually listen. In the end we all laugh (except for the ppl who i was mean to) and have fun, and everyone knows me and my name but i dont remember theirs. -which is kind of fukced up but i am just bad at remembering names :/

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Posted by zeoblade

they're certainly vindictive and sensitive like a match stick. slightest friction and poof, up in flames

they like to ignite people and i always curious about what they are thinking when they set someone on fire

they like stirring people and i feel its some kind of attention seeking like an attention deficiency so they explode something so people pay attention to them

to agonise someone for the sake of entertainment is like they are really asking for it

All well-meaning connotations.

If by vindictive meaning taking action from a source of what has become clear to the heart.

Curious about what we are thinking? I guess if you are thoughtless and heartless when wronging us and expecting no retaliation ... we are thinking something/sometimes: Take this! You thoughtless, heartless, horrible person.

We like being in the mix, the flow of life, and we encourage others to do the same, just as others encourage us to be sensible as they enjoy being sensible.

We are deficient in attention, as we strive to experience life to its fullest and with that want we experience disappointment as the world can be less than our expectations and it disheartens us that it is a person with "sense" that tells us life cannot be all that we want it to be.

Do we ever push or torment someone for the sake of entertainment? We don't pick on the weak, that isn't in us. Do we feel the person we are engaging with are equals or holding them to a higher standard and thus arguing someone on the wrong level? Yeah I think it can happen a lot.

Basically we don't fight to be bullies. That would be so boring. We fight those wanting the fight just as much as we are ready to fight, and usually when that person has already spit in our eye.

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I fully agree amethyst! Thanks for that insight, I swear sometimes I feel I am the crazy one when everyone seems to be acting that way toward us.

I too would rather have the honest truth than be misled.

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Posted by heroic_guy

All well-meaning connotations.

If by vindictive meaning taking action from a source of what has become clear to the heart.

Curious about what we are thinking? I guess if you are thoughtless and heartless when wronging us and expecting no retaliation ... we are thinking something/sometimes: Take this! You thoughtless, heartless, horrible person.

We like being in the mix, the flow of life, and we encourage others to do the same, just as others encourage us to be sensible as they enjoy being sensible.

We are deficient in attention, as we strive to experience life to its fullest and with that want we experience disappointment as the world can be less than our expectations and it disheartens us that it is a person with "sense" that tells us life cannot be all that we want it to be.

Do we ever push or torment someone for the sake of entertainment? We don't pick on the weak, that isn't in us. Do we feel the person we are engaging with are equals or holding them to a higher standard and thus arguing someone on the wrong level? Yeah I think it can happen a lot.

Basically we don't fight to be bullies. That would be so boring. We fight those wanting the fight just as much as we are ready to fight, and usually when that person has already spit in our eye.

i ask what you aries are thinking because most of the aries i know are obvious stirrers. i have a hypothesis that its wanting to be the centre of attention. the only aries that doesn't stir is my little sister but i dont think she will initiate any trouble making because of her relation to me. but the others are really trouble makers, except one guy. he teases people to achieve the life of the party kind of attention

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Posted by amethyst2002
We live in a really sugar coated society. It's why a lot of straightforwardness comes across as "mean." In a day and age where kissing people's asses has become a norm, when someone is honest and up front, they sound "mean." People often confuse honest and truthful as "mean" anymore, which I find kind of sad.

Yeah, if someone is honest with me, it may hurt, but I'd prefer that they were honest rather than lied like some cowardly twit and I find out later. I feel worse about the latter action than I would about the former. Usually it's something I may not be aware of and the fact someone didn't have the balls to be honest and tell me in the beginning pisses me off and makes me feel bad because all this time I wasn't aware of whatever it was. How was lying to me helping me?

Yeah, some Aries do have to learn when and when not to say some things. It's been something I had to learn when I was growing up. The only time I'm insensitive about any of it when I say something it's usually because I just don't give a fuck. The person is being a real asshole or needs to be smacked with some reality because they're being absolutely ridiculous about something. Other than that, if the situation requires sensitivity, it's there.

I think that the people who really get offended also have insecurity issues, don't have the balls to speak up for themselves (yet another insecurity issue) and say "hey that hurt,"/call us out on it, or don't have the capacity to understand people and why they behave. *shrugs*

A lot of times when I hear people bitch about issues like this with Aries, if you ask "so why didn't you say anything to them or talk to them about it?" the response is either silence or some weak ass excuse. Yeah. Don't bitch if you aren't willing to have the balls to speak up about it. Just because we're ornery doesn't mean we won't listen and we won't respect your feelings. If you haven't figured that out already or are THAT passive, sorry, but eff you weenie. I don't want people in my life that have such shallow insight.

honesty doesnt hurt, only the truth can, i do believe there is a difference. messenger vs message

i'm all for the honesty, that is good. but what i am trying to say from experience is sheer bullying, going out of your way to make someone feel bad about themselves for the sake of making yourself feel good.

yes there are sensitive

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