Ruby Franke

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like i know this an extremely unpopular opinion. like I know she 100% deserves jail but reading the book and watching her old vids and i just can't shake that this is a very public mental decline of a woman's mind.

maybe i'm a sucker for that double aqua but this woman was indoctrinated and deeply lost. she's basically raising 6 kids alone with a doormat uninvolved husband, had multiple miscarriages, sexually traumatized by emotional vampire husband who treats her as a therapist and throw an eating disorder into the mix and some identity issues then you get this lady.

she's embedded in a rigid, authoritarian religious system that's all she's ever known and she can't even begin to think to escape. where discipline is godly, suffering is righteous and obedience is love. where she's expected to make this checklist of what she should look for in a husband (no matter if she wanted another woman), get married at 18 and have all these children before her frontal lobe develops, felt subjugated by everyone around her what with her obsession over 'agency' this, 'agency' that prob coz she never ever really felt in control.

she was suffocated and consumed then surprise surprise! she BROKE under the weight of all these.

Edit: and she's prob raised the same way as she's raising her kids. like what dark secrets lurk in her family (coz she must've gotten it from somewhere)? what is this doormat of a man like when it's just the two of them?
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that's how I always felt about Jeffrey Dahmer. Even moreso after Evan Peters played him. I'll have to look into her. Maternal child abuse and neglect is a sore point for me to feel empathy but I sure can try.


there's so many layers to this case. even jodi hildebeast who apparently is a Gemini sun/Pisces moon seems to have a troubled past. SA'd two separate times as a teenager, grew up with brothers who bullied her and possibly underwent a conversion therapy to correct her (straight path).

somehow i think jodi is more evil tho coz ruby to me, comes off so much more lost and insane.
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that's how I always felt about Jeffrey Dahmer. Even moreso after Evan Peters played him. I'll have to look into her. Maternal child abuse and neglect is a sore point for me to feel empathy but I sure can try.

somehow i think jodi is more evil tho coz ruby to me, comes off so much more lost and insane.
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I see it. she's like the fat weird gemini manager archetype I defined. ruby gives off naive vibes. kind of reminds me of Shanann watts who was also accused of abusing her kids but was of course brainwashed by MLMs her whole adult life. meanwhile the evil woman behind the scenes (like Jodi here) was arguably Chris's sidechick Nichol Kessinger out here googling "what was the public opinion of amber Frey & how much money did her book make" days after those babies died.

Jodi was also born on a Sunday, checks out

another note: apparently ruby was considered abusive for sending chad to anasazi camp, its an expensive camp and the reviews are excellent across the board.
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that's how I always felt about Jeffrey Dahmer. Even moreso after Evan Peters played him. I'll have to look into her. Maternal child abuse and neglect is a sore point for me to feel empathy but I sure can try.
somehow i think jodi is more evil tho coz ruby to me, comes off so much more lost and insane.
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I see it. she's like the fat weird gemini manager archetype I defined. ruby gives off naive vibes. kind of reminds me of Shanann watts who was also accused of abusing her kids but was of course brainwashed by MLMs her whole adult life. meanwhile the evil woman behind the scenes (like Jodi here) was arguably Chris's sidechick Nichol Kessinger out here googling "what was the public opinion of amber Frey & how much money did her book make" days after those babies died.

Jodi was also born on a Sunday, checks out
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yeah i think she's a capricorn too.

i can clearly see ruby was managing initially but something i've noticed is that caps don't handle/process emotions very well. like my cap gran was a cold woman and often abusive but she had moments when she acted almost like a child (stomping her foot when she doesn't get her way). trying to assert your dominance over a child is both disturbing and laughably childish to me. like what you trying to compete with a child for? 🤦🤦

but we gotta consider how they grew up in a specific religion or culture too and maybe they don't handle domesticity very well coz i tend to think they'll thrive as bossladies better.

prob the most annoying fundies are virgos tho coz i have this theory that virgos raised in purity culture are likely to be the most bigoted and awful to their loved ones in a passive aggressive if not physical kinda way (Paul and Bethany particularly though I think she might be maturing and deconstructing lately).

lol i keep up with a lot of fundies (i'm not a fundie btw).
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@MidAtBest my cap gran sent one of my brothers somewhere similar to that camp to correct/rehab his behavior but he escaped and got even worse. i think their naivety comes from their deep faith in institutions (very earth sign core tbh).


damn :/ I agree about earth signs. I can't believe there are multiple of these camps and it looks like some children do die during, I haven't read stories of that happening at anasazi. I read a story about a girl spearing a rattlesnake and eating it. dangerous af. then the further north you go the more serious danger you're in from apex predators and moose etc. its also interesting that they restrict people with EDs and underweight people from enlisting since its supposed to be penal and they'd probably like this camp for the wrong reasons lmao.
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@MidAtBest my cap gran sent one of my brothers somewhere similar to that camp to correct/rehab his behavior but he escaped and got even worse. i think their naivety comes from their deep faith in institutions (very earth sign core tbh).

damn :/ I agree about earth signs. I can't believe there are multiple of these camps and it looks like some children do die during, I haven't read stories of that happening at anasazi. I read a story about a girl spearing a rattlesnake and eating it. dangerous af. then the further north you go the more serious danger you're in from apex predators and moose etc. its also interesting that they restrict people with EDs and underweight people from enlisting since its supposed to be penal and they'd probably like this camp for the wrong reasons lmao.
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i think one of paris hilton's facilitators when she was being disciplined somewhere similar-ish was from anasazi. she was obvi traumatized from the experience.

my brother too actually when he was sent to one of these 'centers.' he lost so much weight and he kept talking about how they were treated like trash which is a norm for these places with young people getting disciplined apparently.

thankfully, i was never sent to one coz i'd only ever started partying and going semi-crazy in uni and made a point to only go home for more clothes every now and then 😆😆 and my grades are so on point coz i only needed 3-4 hours of sleep or none at all lol but i can ace a test even if i'd gone to multiple parties last night 💪💪i was so much more extroverted back then 🤸🤸
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@MidAtBest my cap gran sent one of my brothers somewhere similar to that camp to correct/rehab his behavior but he escaped and got even worse. i think their naivety comes from their deep faith in institutions (very earth sign core tbh).
damn :/ I agree about earth signs. I can't believe there are multiple of these camps and it looks like some children do die during, I haven't read stories of that happening at anasazi. I read a story about a girl spearing a rattlesnake and eating it. dangerous af. then the further north you go the more serious danger you're in from apex predators and moose etc. its also interesting that they restrict people with EDs and underweight people from enlisting since its supposed to be penal and they'd probably like this camp for the wrong reasons lmao.
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i think one of paris hilton's facilitators when she was being disciplined somewhere similar-ish was from anasazi. she was obvi traumatized from the experience.

my brother too actually when he was sent to one of these 'centers.' he lost so much weight and he kept talking about how they were treated like trash which is a norm for these places with young people getting disciplined apparently.

thankfully, i was never sent to one coz i'd only ever started partying and going semi-crazy in uni and made a point to only go home for more clothes every now and then 😆😆 and my grades are so on point coz i only needed 3-4 hours of sleep or none at all lol but i can ace a test even if i'd gone to multiple parties last night 💪💪i was so much more extroverted back then 🤸🤸
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I am also blessed to be a talented test-taker with minimal effort. Because I have the memory of a Cancer (disturbingly perfect especially for negative things). I was shocked when I got a 29 on the ACT because I had been called an idiot a lot in high school (still am, I just don't believe it ever since). My GPA at the time was like 2.8 because I was crippled by social anxiety. When I started doing college online started getting straight As. My master's GPA was 3.76

I still think that from your stories of getting Scorpio male coworkers to offer you their hoodies and your popularity here that you have major Virgal charm. very feminine thanks to your Pisces moon & I think some Libra placements? now that you're married there's less reason for extroversion ofc lol. you've got your permanent "circle".

I read about Paris Hilton being traumatized at one of those camps, will have to look into it more. cruise ship murders/suicides are also fascinating to me. The story of Lonnie Kocontes is so crazy, he wanted his ex-wife's estate for himself and his new wife so he pretended to want to reconcile and whisked her away to an Italian cruise. Flew all the way to Spain to board this cruise ship with minimal security. He got caught because he strangled her to death and she was recovered with no water in her lungs. He had sun, moon and Mercury in Capricorn, Aqua Venus, and Scorpio Mars lol.
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@MidAtBest my cap gran sent one of my brothers somewhere similar to that camp to correct/rehab his behavior but he escaped and got even worse. i think their naivety comes from their deep faith in institutions (very earth sign core tbh).
damn :/ I agree about earth signs. I can't believe there are multiple of these camps and it looks like some children do die during, I haven't read stories of that happening at anasazi. I read a story about a girl spearing a rattlesnake and eating it. dangerous af. then the further north you go the more serious danger you're in from apex predators and moose etc. its also interesting that they restrict people with EDs and underweight people from enlisting since its supposed to be penal and they'd probably like this camp for the wrong reasons lmao.
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i think one of paris hilton's facilitators when she was being disciplined somewhere similar-ish was from anasazi. she was obvi traumatized from the experience.
my brother too actually when he was sent to one of these 'centers.' he lost so much weight and he kept talking about how they were treated like trash which is a norm for these places with young people getting disciplined apparently.
thankfully, i was never sent to one coz i'd only ever started partying and going semi-crazy in uni and made a point to only go home for more clothes every now and then 😆😆 and my grades are so on point coz i only needed 3-4 hours of sleep or none at all lol but i can ace a test even if i'd gone to multiple parties last night 💪💪i was so much more extroverted back then 🤸🤸
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I am also blessed to be a talented test-taker with minimal effort. Because I have the memory of a Cancer (disturbingly perfect especially for negative things). I was shocked when I got a 29 on the ACT because I had been called an idiot a lot in high school (still am, I just don't believe it ever since). My GPA at the time was like 2.8 because I was crippled by social anxiety. When I started doing college online started getting straight As. My master's GPA was 3.76

I still think that from your stories of getting Scorpio male coworkers to offer you their hoodies and your popularity here that you have major Virgal charm. very feminine thanks to your Pisces moon & I think some Libra placements? now that you're married there's less reason for extroversion ofc lol. you've got your permanent "circle".

I read about Paris Hilton being traumatized at one of those camps, will have to look into it more. cruise ship murders/suicides are also fascinating to me. The story of Lonnie Kocontes is so crazy, he wanted his ex-wife's estate for himself and his new wife so he pretended to want to reconcile and whisked her away to an Italian cruise. Flew all the way to Spain to board this cruise ship with minimal security. He got caught because he strangled her to death and she was recovered with no water in her lungs. He had sun, moon and Mercury in Capricorn, Aqua Venus, and Scorpio Mars lol.
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lol scorpios have been such good work friends in my previous projects. feels like a hundred years ago now.

i'm gonna check that case out.