Funny lil observations from scoring charts

So I went to cafeastrology lately and when looking up charts, I noticed they put values on certain aspects.
I guess my hypothesis was a person's influence was related to their aspects.

The first thing I have been noticing is that famous & "likeable" or high-profile people with few public problems and have staying power, have a total aspects value of

(con't) (Astrotheme has explanation for what North vs South East vs West means.)

Lastly, another quick notice was if there were a dominance of aspects that had very weak connections like inconjunct and semi-sextile, the person was not as influential, known, or did/does not have as much staying power.


What do you think? Obviously it will always be the case of free will, and this is ONE site's point system so no one should ever stupidly feel defeated or cocky because of it. But do you notice these trends amongst people who you think are influential, whether famous or locally known? Curious to hear.






SIDE NOTE: To hip-hop heads, the highest influencing "emcees" by these criteria was Nicki Minaj, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne. LOL. I can't stand any of them but....we do see them in our faces all the time (or they've stayed around/never retired)....

^LMAO at these editing tools....that should read "defeated or c-oc-ky"! Damn! lol

OH I forgot to add, at least a good chunk of air element also adds to "charm" factor. Folks with no air can very well be intelligent, hard-working, super-creative, the works...it just doesn't get communicated well/does not convince people enough.

My strongest...

Moon Conjunction Venus 0.44 771

My over all...

1464 -348 1116

So what are you trying to say or notice about... Either greater then 1000 or Less then Greater then a 1000...

I guess I would be on the line...

By far I think that this is my strongest placement

moon also being in the 1st house... Venus just in Pisces... and then so on...

I feel like I am missing what you are trying to get at...

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Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Jupiter 1.30 -73
Sun Trine Uranus 3.25 97
Sun Trine Midheaven 3.25 74
Moon Conjunction Venus 0.44 771
Moon Trine Saturn 3.43 70
Moon Square Uranus 5.36 -8
Mercury Trine Neptune 3.00 62
Mercury Opposition Pluto 2.54 -183
Mercury Sextile Ascendant 0.40 133
Venus Trine Saturn 4.28 63
Mars Square Ascendant 0.23 -84
Mars Conjunction Midheaven 8.31 54
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 3.48 4
Uranus Conjunction Midheaven 6.51 38
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.07 87
Neptune Sextile Ascendant 3.40 3
Pluto Trine Ascendant 3.34 8

Positive 1464
Negative -348
Total 1116

Chiron Taurus 29.45
Ceres Aries 5.53
Pallas Pisces 4.29
Juno Gemini 10.41
Vesta Gemini 25.28
Fortune Aries 0.00
South node Aries 0.00

The Aries are not working...

With these I am 1,190.96

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Posted by GENERALIZOD
THE HIGHER THE NUMBER THE GREATER THE CHART IF LOGIC FOLLOWS.

You must have more then -400...

I don't believe you...

Is there a place you can put in Celeb's charts to see this...

I know Brad Pit has a Venus Moon conj. But I think it is in a different sign...

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Where can you find the score? Is it this part?

Yeah which one?
1619 -881 738

??_Holds Ands??_
You poor general.

Lol whoa I didn't necessarily mean post up your chart....just was saying amongst famous people or people you know personally who YOU think are influential or "likeable", or have staying power, (because I could name who I think, but our lists are probably different), do you notice the trends of the things I listed above?


For example, the highest "scored" famous person I found was....Jennifer Lopez. LOL. Oh my.
Here's a section running list of what I had:

Jennifer Lopez 4267 (majority fixed signs, some air, mostly North & Eastern)
Halle Berry 3206 (majority fixed signs, NO air, mostly North & Western); unknown birth time, so not full score!
Rihanna 3100 (almost equally cardinal & fixed signs, majority air, mostly South & West)
Alicia Keys 1975 (majority cardinal, HIGH amount of air, mostly South & East)
Beyonce 1775 (majority fixed, HIGH amount of air, mostly South & West); unknown birth time
Pharrell 1760 (majority cardinal, HIGH amount of air, mostly North & West)
Frank Ocean 1642 (majority fixed, SMALL amount of air); unknown birth time
Sean Hannity 1395 (majority cardinal, good amount of air) unknown birth time
Will Smith 1200 (majority cardinal, majority air; mostly North & Eastern)
Bill Gates 1005 (majority cardinal, good amount of air; mostly North & West)

I would list their strongest positive and strongest negative aspects, but the number of +/- aspects differ and thus affect the total score, so it wouldn't be fair to list it.

Anyways, I always remember thinking why the hell people love Alicia Keys and Beyonce so much; like they can never do any wrong in peoples eyes. And I ran into all the conjunctions and lots of air (and mostly Cardinal if they are seen as damn-near perfect, like Alicia Keys and Janelle Monae, and Phyllicia Rashad.)

PLEASE NOTE I noticed that this particular site doesn't give a fixed score for one aspect, they give it on "how well" something conjuncts, squares, etc. For example if your moon is almost EXACTLY square 90 degrees with your Venus, it's more negatively valued than if it was just they squared each other like 95 degrees or 82 degrees. And just because your Venus is, say, in Aries and opposition to Mars in Libra doesn't mean that they are opposition exactly. You have to look at the physical chart to see if mathematically they are in opposition (180 degrees or very close to it.)


Also, I think my theory of influence is flawed, because Steve Jobs had a score of 258, Prince had -253, MLK h

(con't) Also, I think my theory of influence is flawed, because Steve Jobs had a score of 258, Prince had -253, MLK had -58 and Tupac had like 700-something (3 of which who's time of birth I don't have however), Jimmy Iovine had -207 and uh....they were/are VERY influential. They just had struggles, but very influential. It's still interesting amongst people I know personally however.

(It's so dumb how it just cuts off part of your post instead of telling you your post is too long.)

My bad, I'm talking about the "value". So the value on the lower right-hand corner (-201 in your case.)

I have a friend with a so-called negative scoring, (just like almighty Prince!) and that man is one powerful mofo; he's deep into spirituality and occult and definitely has done some stuff w/ it lol

I have researched my Venus Moon conjunction... I believe Lilith would be a big negative add if it was counted in that sign... P Fort would be a plus I would think... Pallas

I have alot of action in this pisces...

Lilith would be different though... That is where I get my sad side...

Most people would consider me to be semi lucky I guess but I have never had the best luck or anything. Venus Moon conj. is said to make somethings easy and even lucky so to speak... I can tell you right now things are not easy and I feel like I have to fight for everything I am getting. At the same time I feel I control or can have a great impact on that on my own path.

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Someone must have some points besides me come on... I am not trying to be like all that but I am feeling weird... Someone post some points... I honestly thought everyone would have a bit...

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Posted by GENERALIZOD
THE THING ABOUT IT IS CONJUNCTIONS AREN'T ALWAYS POSITIVE. IT DEPENDS ON THE PLANETS INVOLVED AND THE HOUSE THEY FALL IN.

Venus and Moon get along... and in Pisces is Positive but...

1st house... I have had to learn to not put all my emotions on the table at times...

lucky I have the Scorpio Mars, Pluto, and Saturn help with that. I think I need to find the balance between isolation and showing all my cards emotionally in social events and so on...

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Posted by SkyeTitan
... Also, I think my theory of influence is flawed, because Steve Jobs had a score of 258, Prince had -253, MLK h

I had this idea for a long time. Once there was an interview with a female professor of Philosophy on TV. I checked her chart for seeing the high score. She had indeed a high score because of her huge Virgo Stellium.

But one day I had a guest at home, a non-believer of Astrology. I was showing him what a chart (of CA) says. We picked some famous celebrities. And see my luck. We had big people with scores around 400. Even negative value was there to disappoint me.

I had a very interesting day yesterday and today. I got a reading from a professional... one that I have not seen before. This was her numbers from her chart. She seemed fine with give me her chart... really think she does not mind me sharing this... as an objective charting thing. She is very well know travels and teaches. She was mostly air and precognitive, Empathic, Medium could be through precognitive... She seems highly developed and could use other gifting but it is like why when she is so strong with this one... She seemed to have amazing control. Even know when she is trying not to brake a path but bend it... or lead you to make your own choice to bend it. Her chart had many trines... and Supporting points in all air signs and was dominated in her 11 th house... Jupiter conj. MC in Gem. And Aqua first house cusp rising Virgo/Aqua Less then 2 degress... Neptune in Aqua... and Saturn...

Crazy strong chart... mostly because of little negatives...

2079 -654 1425

with asteroids

1,510.94


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post your chart... or where the house are at and Signs...

These are fun ones to look at... Please

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exoskeleton

I believe you must be talented in some way... obviously... That much moon and and conj. They have to be variable in signs... working each a different way... Some are not as strong or can be counter productive to others as well.. House and sign always need to be accounted for...

That being said like your name you have an outer shell most likely most people will never see beyond. Often if I see someone that knows things... Then it is hard for me to see beyond them... Can get feels but mind is too deep... or possibly restrictive...

Relate at all to what I said?

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Posted by exoskeleton
yeap.

Can I see you placements... I think I have before but listed out... I did not look them over and New info always helps in someways...

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