Planets in Houses and How You View Yourself

Just a random thought.

Since the ascendant is your public mask and your preferred image, which dictates where your other houses are placed, surely the planets positioned in those houses is related to your "mask" (or the overall image you project to others and the image like to perceive yourself as holding true to).

I'll use my chart as an example. With a Scorpio ascendant, I like to project an image associated with Scorpio, and prefer people to receive me as Scorpionic rather than Taurean. Whether or not people actually consider me Taurean once they peal back the mask and see the real me for themselves is up to them and irrelevant to this discussion, as we're only talking about the image we all project as a result of our ascendant, and the houses our ascendant puts our planets in.

Always remember that your ascendant is EXTREMELY important to your personality. Not only is it more unique to you than your sun sign, but it is also directly related to how you interact with your environment, and the external environment is crucial to how your personality develops.

So, my chart says that I like people to perceive me as Scorpionic and feel a Scorpionic vibe when they are with me. But there's so much more when you look at your planets' placements. Using my own placements as an example again:

Sun in Taurus in the 7th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Libra Sun.
Moon in Taurus in the 7th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Libra Moon.
Mercury in Taurus in the 7th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Libra Mercury.
Venus in Aries in the 5th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Leo Venus.

And so on and so forth with Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. I believe that this can help you to personalise generational planets. For instance, many people have Neptune in Capricorn, which says lots about them as a group but nothing about them as individuals. However, far fewer have Neptune in the 12th house => liking to be perceived as a Pisces Neptune.

But wait, there's more.

Think about the signs in the cusps of your unique house placements; they too affect your personality. Using my own chart:

7th house (Libra ruled by Venus) in Taurus (ruled by Venus) = > I approach subjects related to the 7th house (marriage, business, relationships and contracts) with a mixture of Taurean and Libran energies, and a VERY Venusian style.
5th house (Leo ruled by Sun) in Pisces (ruled by Neptune) => I approach subjects related to the 5th house (creativity, children, sex, fun and games) with a mixture of Leonine and Piscean energy, and a Solar and Neptunian style (or Jupiterian if you use the traditional method).

What I'm doing here is combining the sign associated with a certain house (E.G. 11th house => Aquarius) with the sign which the cusp of that house is touching. I could make it even more complex by looking at what house the planet which rules the sign in the cusp is placed in itself. So:

5th house (Leo/Sun) in Pisces (Neptune in the 3rd house in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn) => Now it's even more complex; when it comes to my 5th house: I have a mixture of Leo & Sun (which we all have), Pisces, Neptune and Saturn. This can get even more complex if I consider Saturn in the 4th house in Pisces. Then I have a mixture of: Saturn in Pisces, Cancer (4th house), the 5th house and Neptune. Lo and behold, we have revealed a complete circuit: Neptune rules my 5th and 4th house, and Saturn rules my Neptune. So all of these influences combine accordingly: a very strong Neptunaian/Piscean influence on the 5th, with an undertone of home (the 4th house) and Saturn.

But wait, it can get even more complex. Consider houses that contain two signs. For instance, my 5th house contains Pisces AND Aries, therefore, Mars is also of importance. Where is Mars? It is in the 9th house in Leo (associated with Jupiter and the Sun (which governs the 5th), and Jupiter sits in the 2nd house). Suddenly we have a complete picture of the 5th house: I am fond of recreational drugs/alcohol (Neptune/Pisces), I love being creative in a fun, group setting (Neptune/Pisces), I am comfortable entertaining others in my own home (Saturn/4th house), I can be a bit of a narcissistic jerk when drunk or partying (Sun controlling the 5th house and my Mars, which affects the 5th house through Aries), I can turn the conversation towards something serious when one-on-one during a party (Saturn), and what I enjoy talking about in such conversations is usually philosophical and arrogantly intellectual (Mars in Jupiter's sign and house), I'm also generous with money when out with others (Jupiter in 2nd house) but can be foolish with money and tend to gamble if I have the chance when drunk (5th house and Neptune linked to the 2nd house).

If I was a professional astrologer, I could infer MUCH more and go very in-depth with every single house, but I think you get the idea.

The final area, which adds another layer of complexity, is aspects. Since I've been harping on about my 5th house as an example, let's use it again:

I have Venus in Pisces in the 5th trine Jupiter in the 2nd in Sagittarius. This combines the 5th house energy (Leo) with the aforementioned Neptune/Pisces/Saturn/Mars/Sagittarius energy with 2nd house (Taurus) energy and Venus /Saggitarius energy. And it comes in the easy form due to the trine. Venus rules Jupiter and Jupiter is in its own sign. Suddenly we see a strong link between the 2nd house (possessions, money, natural abilities), Jupiter & Sagittarius (wisdom, free-spiritedness, fun, independence) and the 5th (relationships, fun, creativity), Venus (decadence, beauty, art, luxury, love) & Neptune (creativity, dreams, substance abuse, spirituality).

Again, including houses that encompass two signs can complicate this even more - E.G. my 5th in Pisces and Aries, I would then include Mars as well, which also happens to have a trine from Jupiter, which fuses all of the energies of the 2nd house, 5th house and 9th house together, as well as: Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn and all of the houses they control, and all of the signs they sit inside of in my chart.

I won't burden you with a description of all of those aspects, but I hope you have understood my method based on the above examples. You could also use the above for midpoints and declinations as well, which makes the whole system very, very complex.

So go and analyse your own chart with this method and see if it holds true to you. 🙂

Again there is a lot that I left out, such as leaving out the ruler of each house, in which case the above 5th house example would include Saturn in the 4th (ruling Neptune) and the Sun (ruler of the 5th) which is in Taurus in the 7th ... as well as the ruler of Venus in Aries, which is Mars in Leo. Etc., etc., etc.

As you can see, you can go VERY DEEPLY into your own chart this way.

Posted by magnetoreborn
I have Pluto in 1st house.

Pluto in the 1st => liked to be perceived as an Aries Pluto.

Extreme actions. Extreme desire to get what you want. Trying to attain your desires no matter what. Fiercely independent. Remaining intense in the present moment.

I have the same placement. 😉

Posted by magnetoreborn

Sun in Virgo in the 11th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Aquarius Sun (hm...I don't know if this is true...i see myself as more Leo like, but people may associate my eccentricity with Aquarius)
Moon in Leo in the 10th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Capricorn Moon (definitely NOT true...lol, are you sure this system works?
Mercury in Libra in the 11th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Aquarius Mercury (don't know about this either)
Venus in Leo in the 10th house => this means that I like to project the image of a Capricorn Venus (definitely not true again lol...I don't give off any Capricorn energy)

Don't forget to fuse the energy.

So Virgo with Aquarius and Leo with Capricorn.

Also, don't forget to include whatever planets are in those houses and any aspects.

Of course, you may be more in touch with yourself than most people. The Ascendant is all about masks and projection. Perhaps you have accepted yourself more than most, without the need to place the energy created by your ascendant over your true self.

I certainly haven't. I've been running away from Taurus since day 1. I envy you in that regard! 😛

Interesting..

I will try..tell me if I'm doing it right :p

I will take 10th house.. Pisces is in 10th house.. So, I'll take up a career that involves service to people, working behind the scenes, could also mean a career in arts..?

But Aries is also in 10th house...so....a career where I'll be the authoritative figure?

.....

Pisces rules Neptune and Jupiter...

Aries rules Mars.

....

My Neptune is in Capricorn - rules Saturn...which is again in Pisces in 9th house! ===> Piscean and Sag-like energy in my career— Perhaps a career that SLIGHTLY involves travel?

Jupiter is in Scorpio - rules Pluto....which is in Scorpio in 5th house! ====> I'm a scary controlling authoritative figure 😛 who likes to a career that involves *solving* problems or investigation? And...how do I interpret 5th house here....work is fun for me? Because it is.

.....

My Mars is again in Pisces...ruled by Neptune..which is in Cap in 7th house



Am I getting this right lol?

So far whatever inferences I have drawn are true.. Yes each of what I said is true. Going to happen .. Thankyou for interesting insight 🙂

So confusing...

Cancer rising in the mid 20's in decans or degrees and I am quite intuitive and it's not the Taurus placements I have either.

But the Taurus placement just makes sure that I am not the one going crazy when I get lied to purposely or to avoid hurt feelings which is that one I encounter the most with in my life. I am up front and prefer the honesty face to face.

Brilliant Thread.

Posted by RumiL
Interesting..

I will try..tell me if I'm doing it right :p

I will take 10th house.. Pisces is in 10th house.. So, I'll take up a career that involves service to people, working behind the scenes, could also mean a career in arts..?

But Aries is also in 10th house...so....a career where I'll be the authoritative figure?

.....

Pisces rules Neptune and Jupiter...

Aries rules Mars.

....

My Neptune is in Capricorn - rules Saturn...which is again in Pisces in 9th house! ===> Piscean and Sag-like energy in my career— Perhaps a career that SLIGHTLY involves travel?

Jupiter is in Scorpio - rules Pluto....which is in Scorpio in 5th house! ====> I'm a scary controlling authoritative figure 😛 who likes to a career that involves *solving* problems or investigation? And...how do I interpret 5th house here....work is fun for me? Because it is.

.....

My Mars is again in Pisces...ruled by Neptune..which is in Cap in 7th house



Am I getting this right lol?

So far whatever inferences I have drawn are true.. Yes each of what I said is true. Going to happen .. Thankyou for interesting insight 🙂

Looks like you have it right!

I'll admit that this was a random idea I had the other night which I'd like people to test out, as I think it works best with self-analysis as you've done.

It can get pretty exhausting when you try to do this for every sign, planet and aspect though!!!! 😛

Posted by ontransit
This is a stupid post.

Sure is. But it makes sense when you realise that we're all self-conscious apes born into a world that gives us computers as an avenue for our stupidity and alcohol as a way to type our stupidity into said computers without any inhibitions.

I'm the jester of DXP. You don't have to take me seriously if you don't want to.

In fact, I'd be offended if you did take me seriously.

Posted by 9waterlion9
I think you have the right idea with the ascendant, but just attributed that idea to every other planet which is just inaccurate

I see where you're coming from, but I'm focusing on the actual degrees of the houses, which are dictated by the ascendant. Of course every house is 30 degrees, as is every sign, but each house is an extension of your rising sign, and that creates a very unique configuration of planets, signs and houses when you try to combine it all together using your entire chart.

I'm not looking for validation, so if it sucks, then it sucks. It was just a random idea I had and I was checking if it rang true for anyone else.

E.G. There are many Scorpio ascendants, but some have a MC in Leo, others in Virgo. Then, if you're using Placidus, what I said about equal (30 degree) houses goes out the window, and you have houses (aspects of life) which contain various combinations of different signs.

Furthermore,, when you take planets (and the houses and signs they rule) into account, you get a bundle of energy related to a specific set of planets, houses and signs that are unique to you. Beyond a pair of twins whose houses contain the same planets and signs, it doesn't get that much more personal than that unless you go to Vedic astrology, where they divide charts down to specific sections low enough to differentiate twins.

Posted by DuchessScorpio
I have to respectfully disagree with you.

Your Ascendant is not 'how you like to project" these placements. it's how others perceive you through the energy of these placements.

Whether you like to or not, doesn't matter. People will perceive that energy regardless.

That's a fair point. I've heard the ascendant described as both. But if you consider it the way that you will be perceived (on first meeting) regardless of your efforts or actual personality, then that's fine.

All the same, you could still use the above method, as it relies heavily on the ascendant. This means, in your case, that it would be a way (if it actually works!) of fleshing out the way that other people see you more completely.

So all of the above would apply, but instead of viewing it from your perspective, it would instead represent how others perceive you.

Or not, if you simply disagree - in which case it isn't worth your time labouring over.

The thread will become a corpse in the archives eventually anyway, and I'm thankful for people who actually consider a wacky idea before respectfully disagreeing with it. 🙂

Posted by tiziani

Posted by DuchessScorpio
I have to respectfully disagree with you.

Your Ascendant is not 'how you like to project" these placements. it's how others perceive you through the energy of these placements.

Whether you like to or not, doesn't matter. People will perceive that energy regardless.

I actually with the OP on this one thing, for the very same reason you have here.

Asc is how we like to project our own image of the world, but it's not up to us how other people perceive us. It's down to their Ascendant how we will be perceived.

As for public image, that is 10th House.

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Fair enough. Perhaps I'm a romantic at heart and don't like to read the ascendant as something fatalistic (that would fit a Taurus Sun, Moon, Merc that lives in Libra's house without all of the crackpot stuff I posted anyway! 😛)

I find it hard to believe that one doesn't have control over how they are perceived. It is VERY easy to manipulate others into believing you're introverted, crazy, a streaker, confident or anything else.

But maybe that stuff is related to the planets themselves, and I was simply extrapolating by using the ascendant and its concomitant house placements.

Is the ascendant simply how you appear to others when you're behaving in your natural element, in your opinion? So a Sun - Leo Moon - Cancer person with Asc - Virgo will be doing their Leo/Cancer thing, but by virtue of their appearance, the external environment and how they approach others, they come across as Virgo? Or is the Asc simply the cosmic shorthand for: "based on EVERYTHING in your chart, other people will perceive you as ____ ascendant"?

Its very interesting... I like how my mind got entangled in forming inks between house, aspect, rulership, planet etc and finding the way out...like a maze 😄 ...if only I knew meaning and characteristics of all planets and signs and the aspects in depth! I'll never forget this in my life.

Posted by tiziani
I think a Virgo Ascendant is going to perceive the world from a Virgo footing. And there's a lot of evidence to back up that idea in practice, in how we project other parts of the chart from the Ascendant in understanding how the chart holder perceives other areas (houses) of their life.

However I don't think that has majority influence over how others perceive them.

I've never met anyone who is that self-aware that they can entirely control the perception of others.

Honestly I think Ascendant controlling self-image is a big enough responsibility as it is.

If there were any house that had to do with appearances it'd be the 10th, and in the 10th there are a lot of hints that our appearance in other's eyes is largely out of our hands.

I agree 🙂

What do you mean by last part though Tiziani...about 10th house?