Venus in Retrograde?

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venus in scorpio (and aries) is considered to be in detriment (venus is naturally ruled by taurus and libra), so the venusian energy isn't easily expressed. throw in retrograde and like sagitTAUries said, it becomes somewhat introverted...so in a way, it becomes something like a double whammy (at least in my opinion). although you may appear like you play the game of love really well, inside you might be second guessing yourself and/or the other person. a lot of sites say that a venus retrograde has to do with unrequited love in a past life...not sure about this because i have no recollection of my past lives whatsoever, lol. but supposedly this is what stems some of the issues that a retrograde venus individual might have about love.

i also have a natal retrograde venus, in virgo no less (this is considered to be in fall, similar to detriment). how do you feel about entering relationships?
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Wow, thanks for all the info! That being said, I am still a bit lost... Sorry! I am not as dense as it may sound, most of the time. I merely need to be able to related to the concepts, and am having a bit of a hard time...

Both sagitTAUries and agent006 mentioned introverted, with TAU mentioning "introverted love". What exactly would that mean? I am only capable of loving myself?!?

"it means loves just a bit more work for you, but the ride is much more scenic... "

While that sounds like a beautiful concept, it leave much for intereptation. Why is it a bit more work (or does it feel like a bit more work)? Would it be the people I choose, the people I don't choose, my actions in relationships, my lack of actions in relationships?

"it means you have much more potential to love than natives with a direct venus, but that's not to say that it's difficult. it's like the universe is funneling a shitload of venusian energy at you and you may or may not know how to handle it yet..."

This helps a bit more. Natives? Other people with Venus in Scorpio, or other people with sun in Scorpio? Not that it matters, I guess. More potential... Hrmm... Venus in Scorpio seems to have good potential to love: "You are capable of loving deeply, and you crave intimacy. Scorpio isn't afraid of anything, and when Venus, the planet of love, is found in this sign, love relationships are intense." How would my potential be more?

"or it could just mean you are a demon in the sheets" -- 🙂

More than normal Scorps? Just for clarification, that is a good demon, right?

"although you may appear like you play the game of love really well, inside you might be second guessing yourself and/or the other person."

I haven't really noticed this, but perhaps I will contemplate it a bit more...

"a lot of sites say that a venus retrograde has to do with unrequited love in a past life...not sure about this because i have no recollection of my past lives whatsoever, lol. but supposedly this is what stems some of the issues that a retrograde venus individual might have about love."

Yeah, I read those, but they never gave much more info than that. 😢

Atleast we have something else in common, I don't remember my past lives either. LOL!

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"how do you feel about entering relationships?"

I am not entirely certain I understand the question. I feel fine about it. I suppose it depends on who I would be entering in relationships with. I don't generally jump into relationships with just anyone, or generally have casual romantic relationships (if that is what you meant). While I can appreciate the concept of "no pressure, let's see where it goes", I don't really get the point of really dating around for just dating around. Seems like a waste of time that you could be devoting to more productive things (friends, family, work, home, etc.). I don't generally stay single for long, not that I am looking to always be in a relationship, they just seem to find me and I am not one to turn down a great opportunity when it knocks (so to speak)... Is that what you were asking?

Thanks again for all the info and help!!!

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well, what i mean by "introverted" is that you must get past yourself before you can move onto something else. this is not to say that you are only capable of loving yourself, but you should learn to love yourself before you let someone love you. that being said, i guess i'll use myself as an example since our venuses are similar in some respects. virgo in venus natives usually have a very critical eye when it comes to a love interest, in other words, they will inspect their object of affections from head to toe, and inside out to see if they are good enough for the virgo venus native. like a beautiful rose, they will pluck the petals out one by one until it ceases to beautiful anymore (which is why its considered to be in fall). "retrograde" venus in virgo will inspect "herself" from head to toe and inside out to see if she herself is good enough for her potential mate. do you get my drift? (i'm always wondering if i'm good enough for the other person.) and once you overcome this, then you supposedly are capable of giving and receiving love at the utmost capacity. sagitTAUries summed this up nicely: "introverted love is best, who wants someone that will give it away to anyone for free.."

which brings me back to the question, how do you feel when you enter relationships? do you tend to be hesitant and second guess yourself? even though "...you may appear like you play the game of love really well...?" (i know i do, people always think that i've dated dozens of men because supposedly i have men queing up just vying for my attention, but in actuality, i can count the number of men i've been with with one hand, lol...) but since you already answered this question in that you have no problem when it comes to relaitonships, i guess you were able to work through this supposed wicked placement rather quickly. cheers!

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and like sagitTAUries said, it's best to look at the entire astrological natal chart as a whole, because when you break it down into segments, a piece of the pie may look really ugly, but some other piece touching it, or on the other side may, lend helping hand to lessen the burden. breaking it down is great when you're learning, but connection and putting the big picture together is key. you know how i just said that i'm always wondering if i'm good enough for the other person? well, my chart says that i'm somewhat of a narcissist (as i mentioned on another thread), so sometimes i think i'm good enough (or too good, which can be a bad thing too, sadly) lol. i hope i didn't confuse you too much.