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As much as I love to rip into Cancer men, this isn't about his sign.

Money and fame make you feel like you're entitled and invincible. Im just glad it's not about children this time...right? Im sick to my stomach about hearing of child predators.
No, it's not about children. This is a guy who drugged and took advantage of a number of women over a lot of year.

You're right, power and money has a lot to do with it.
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Wonder why they reopened it. Supposedly they have a taped confession, I want to hear it. I'm not justifying his actions if what he did was true cuz that is hideous. But at the same time, if justice is what you truly seek, why settle for the money that got the case closed? Why not push for the justice you truly want.




Not justifying his actions but I don't believe this is about justice, I believe this is about money and milking a money train. That's my opinion
I know what you mean but this is a separate case from 2004. This woman didn't take any money from him and has left the US and is living in Canada now. She is just willing to testify against him.
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Mars in Scorpio in the 8th house of a chart ruled by Mars....lol.
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Mars is the ruler of Aries and Scorpio, the 8th house represents sex and Mars is usually the driver of sex. The sign of Scorpio is usually considered a dark watery sign which in this guy's case has coincided with the 8th (house of sex), with the driver of sex Mars also being placed there. He has Aries rising or Aries is the first house which is also ruled by Mars, so his drive to have sex no matter of whatever kind is strongly ruled by Mars which also rules his chart. And from my first look, he doesn't have Saturn or Jupiter aspecting his Mars to slow it down either, especially Saturn.
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prominent pluto (Expected more stressful aspects to this...)

but...

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Square-Venus
moon square venus:
"This indicates probably inner stress and tensions related to your social and intimate relationships; your emotions will be the battleground. "

that and the mars-uranus could contribute to it.

The whole thing is bizarre to me because as some of the women have said, they would have slept with him if he had just asked.
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Wonder why they reopened it. Supposedly they have a taped confession, I want to hear it. I'm not justifying his actions if what he did was true cuz that is hideous. But at the same time, if justice is what you truly seek, why settle for the money that got the case closed? Why not push for the justice you truly want.




Not justifying his actions but I don't believe this is about justice, I believe this is about money and milking a money train. That's my opinion
I'm sure it's floating around somewhere. I know I watched an interview with him where he admitted some things and then he asked if they could be cut out. I don't remember know what the interview was about though.

Yea smh I just saw it...........he admitted to giving some women some wolf of wall street drugs(not being funny can't sleep the drug)but said they "agreed to it"


I can't do shit but shake my head, such a sad and disappointing case
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Everybody was taking Qualuudes (party drugs for women especially) till the early 80s, so I don't know how true the older allegations were. But whatever has happened since the mid-80s I think have some truth to them.
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Mars in Scorpio in the 8th house of a chart ruled by Mars....lol.
Looks like his Mars is in his 7th house actually.
Aries rising, Scorpio is the 8th house. His Mars is in Scorpio.

I think it's this full house/part house calculation that people do which causes this difference.
Hmm, I don't know. Looks like 7 to me. Still an Aries riser though.
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Just count from Aries, Scorpio is the 8th house.
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Mars in Scorpio in the 8th house of a chart ruled by Mars....lol.
Looks like his Mars is in his 7th house actually.
Aries rising, Scorpio is the 8th house. His Mars is in Scorpio.

I think it's this full house/part house calculation that people do which causes this difference.
Hmm, I don't know. Looks like 7 to me. Still an Aries riser though.
Just count from Aries, Scorpio is the 8th house.
So why does it look like it is in his 7th?
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If you count from the house where Saturn is placed, it's the 8th.
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Donna, not every woman is "date raped" they are actually girls who dope themselves up n hook up with random strangers in the name of living life.


And @op I agree about it being done truth there. Him admitting to giving them to some females opens up a lot in my eyes


I wanna see how this plays out.
Just shoot him now. Those women will have felt better off dead for years. It actually would have been kinder if cosby had simply killed people.

And yes they are made only for men to rape women. Society needs to admit that.

And if you have sex with a woman even if she took it herself that is rape.

They are made to rape women though be under no illusions. And that crime industry knows that.
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No one is contesting that having sex with a woman who is intoxicated constitutes rape legally. She is not in a position to give consent, we all understand that. However, qualuudes back then were sought out by women like marijuana, men did not administer it specifically to women. That;s what I am trying to say.
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Blaming it on Scorpio and Aries placements seems way too "cat ladyish" to me. I do secretly get satisfaction from seeing the moon square venus even if it is a wide orb though. He had his picture perfect wife at home and out chasing models and actresses.
It's the placement of Mars, not about the sign.
It does look like the 7th house though. I didn't mean to come across as if I was discounting your input. It definitely makes sense and seems accurate. I was just hopeful to hear something deeper than mars and pluto and scorpio. We always attribute sex to those signs. Hearing new interpretations is always fun.
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Count from the house where Saturn is placed, it's the 8th. Mars is the prime driver of sex, can't really change that fundamental astro truth 😛.
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Blaming it on Scorpio and Aries placements seems way too "cat ladyish" to me. I do secretly get satisfaction from seeing the moon square venus even if it is a wide orb though. He had his picture perfect wife at home and out chasing models and actresses.
It's the placement of Mars, not about the sign.
It does look like the 7th house though. I didn't mean to come across as if I was discounting your input. It definitely makes sense and seems accurate. I was just hopeful to hear something deeper than mars and pluto and scorpio. We always attribute sex to those signs. Hearing new interpretations is always fun.
Count from the house where Saturn is placed, it's the 8th. Mars is the prime driver of sex, can't really change that fundamental astro truth 😛.
Sorry, I hate to keep digging, but why does it look like it is in the 7th?
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Because you're bisecting the house Aries below and above the AC line, it's a full house.
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Blaming it on Scorpio and Aries placements seems way too "cat ladyish" to me. I do secretly get satisfaction from seeing the moon square venus even if it is a wide orb though. He had his picture perfect wife at home and out chasing models and actresses.
It's the placement of Mars, not about the sign.
It does look like the 7th house though. I didn't mean to come across as if I was discounting your input. It definitely makes sense and seems accurate. I was just hopeful to hear something deeper than mars and pluto and scorpio. We always attribute sex to those signs. Hearing new interpretations is always fun.
Count from the house where Saturn is placed, it's the 8th. Mars is the prime driver of sex, can't really change that fundamental astro truth 😛.
ok ok...I'm just being difficult. But now that makes me question whether or not my chart on astrotheme is accurate.
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It's accurate, you just have to be clear on part house calculations vs full houses.
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And no, I don't get rapey every other saturday.
Maybe every third Saturday?

I kid, I kid
Well, I was just admitting to having Moon square Venus. I also have Pluto in my Asc.
Well I have Pluto square ASC. and square moon
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So you're a Scorp Asc with Pluto in Taurus?
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Moon square Venus in a man's chart is apparently a romantic red flag.

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Square-Venus
*sighs* well that explains a lot for me lol

aww lol...don't be so fatalistic about it. Knowing is the first step of being self aware. Our natal charts are just a blueprint...it doesn't mean we can't work around them.
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I don't get it, what's wrong with Moon Sq. Venus?
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And no, I don't get rapey every other saturday.
Maybe every third Saturday?

I kid, I kid
Well, I was just admitting to having Moon square Venus. I also have Pluto in my Asc.
Well I have Pluto square ASC. and square moon
So you're a Scorp Asc with Pluto in Taurus?
I am Cancer ASC and Pluto in Libra

Pluto in Taurus?? How old do you think I am!!
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About a 135? 😛

Then how do you have Pluto sq asc and moon? Since you say you're moon in scorpio (or did I get that wrong)?

Pluto in Libra makes you 29 years old or less, this is diabolical! You're 135 and 29 at once!
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Mars in Scorpio in the 8th house of a chart ruled by Mars....lol.
Looks like his Mars is in his 7th house actually.
Aries rising, Scorpio is the 8th house. His Mars is in Scorpio.

I think it's this full house/part house calculation that people do which causes this difference.
Hmm, I don't know. Looks like 7 to me. Still an Aries riser though.
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It is.
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Moon square Venus in a man's chart is apparently a romantic red flag.

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Square-Venus
*sighs* well that explains a lot for me lol

aww lol...don't be so fatalistic about it. Knowing is the first step of being self aware. Our natal charts are just a blueprint...it doesn't mean we can't work around them.
I don't get it, what's wrong with Moon Sq. Venus?
Did you read my link?
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I just did, some of it is overly dramatic. It's true that I don't like people telling me what to do or making demands of me. Since, I am aware that my reading of people's motivations may not always be accurate, I have developed a heightened intuition. I am like a synthetic scorpio now, I don't trust anyone easily 😛.
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And no, I don't get rapey every other saturday.
Maybe every third Saturday?

I kid, I kid
Well, I was just admitting to having Moon square Venus. I also have Pluto in my Asc.
Well I have Pluto square ASC. and square moon
So you're a Scorp Asc with Pluto in Taurus?
I am Cancer ASC and Pluto in Libra

Pluto in Taurus?? How old do you think I am!!
About a 135? 😛

Then how do you have Pluto sq asc and moon? Since you say you're moon in scorpio (or did I get that wrong)?

Pluto in Libra makes you 29 years old or less, this is diabolical! You're 135 and 29 at once!
Black magic!

I am Scorpio sun, Cancer moon (they are square), Cancer ASC, Pluto Libra.

I am 35 silly
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Ok, now I know where all this went haywire. I confused myself between a square and an opposition. I am not moon square Venus, I am moon opposition Venus...lol.

29....35...all the same. We are about the same age then...lol.

Cancer moons ...yummy!
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I'm so fucking confused about the mars placements lmao. I seriously see it sitting in the 7th house but Cancer man persuasion is telling me the sky is red when I clearly see that it's blue...and I'm believing him that it's red.
I already told you my perspective, if you count houses below the AC line, it's the 7th house. That's based on part house calculations.

I count full houses, so Aries to me is the first house where the Asc falls and I count houses from there.
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The drug industry and the night club industry make their money that way. You can even see it on some of the flyers printed for some of the clubs in the city I live in. Pics of women falling over etc being groped with their faces like zombies and arms limp.

These women are being set up by a whole club and drug industry. They are fuck fodder for men who have money. That is the sad cold truth.

While I'll agree that there are women getting taking advantage of, I stand by my stance that there are women who do these drugs freely and sleep around freely. I'm not guessing, I'm telling you things I've seen, its women out there that do this on their own



If you don't believe me, I can point you to a direction where you'll see for yourself.
So you have raped ....that's what this is ...your telling us you are so very very sorry. Hmm?
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Come on, there is no need to make such accusations.
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The drug industry and the night club industry make their money that way. You can even see it on some of the flyers printed for some of the clubs in the city I live in. Pics of women falling over etc being groped with their faces like zombies and arms limp.

These women are being set up by a whole club and drug industry. They are fuck fodder for men who have money. That is the sad cold truth.

While I'll agree that there are women getting taking advantage of, I stand by my stance that there are women who do these drugs freely and sleep around freely. I'm not guessing, I'm telling you things I've seen, its women out there that do this on their own



If you don't believe me, I can point you to a direction where you'll see for yourself.
So you have raped ....that's what this is ...your telling us you are so very very sorry. Hmm?
Come on, there is no need to make such accusations.
it sounds so very like rape apologist rhetoric. it is hard to tell. One cannot consent without full presence of mind in some countries sex with a drunk woman is not consent. The dude needs a consent lesson. Like NOW.
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That's not what he is saying at all. He is talking about women who regularly intoxicate themselves and look for men to have sex with. consider this both are intoxicated and have sex, now who has to give consent to whom?
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Posted by Koniucha I have my moon sitting right on my ASC too
I have very heavy planets on my Asc - Jupiter and Saturn, add to that pluto as well.
I am actually moon dominant. 8 aspects to my moon. Super fun!
So, you're a real softy 😄
Ugh, yes.

I wish I could be a little tougher. I think that is why I am drawn to Cap moons and Saturn ruled people. They help ground me.
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That said, Saturn dominated people like me can be harsh on soft little cancer moons. We may not intend to hurt your feelings, but we will probably do it occasionally and then regret it.

I have that situation with my mom a lot who is a Cancer moon.
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I hate rape discussions but if a woman is drunk and she is without full presence of mind and then man is also drunk and without full presence of mind...who is getting raped?

Getting drugged is one thing. But getting drunk out of your minds and sleeping with someone and regretting it in the morning....I don't know.
Exactly the point. If the man is sober and the woman is drunk that constitutes rape for sure, however if both are drunk or only the man is drunk what then?
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Mars is in the 7th house
Is that based on part house calculations? I have some difficulty following that, I only understand and follow full houses.
What house system do u use
Sidereal whole sign system.
Wow that's crazy, thought I was the only one. I use whole sign also, makes more sense for me and my life
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Same here, that's the only thing which makes sense. I also follow the Sidereal system, so the sign and house placements are slightly different for me from western astro.
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In reality you are talking about people who don't know each other well most of the time. You hear guys all the time saying they themselves don't want a girl drunk as they will not want anything to be misconstrued etc. It's called having a fucking clue.

Guys should not get drunk with other guys even. I had a guy ex who was drugged by other guys as a 'prank' . It was totally sick. Nothing sexual happened. But he was shocked. Don't hang around with that drama.
Everyone agrees on the following:

a) Getting drunk and having sex with randos is stupid

b) A sober man having sex with a drunk woman is legally rape

However, if tow people are drunk and end up doing eachother there's no crime and it most definitely is not rape.
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In reality you are talking about people who don't know each other well most of the time. You hear guys all the time saying they themselves don't want a girl drunk as they will not want anything to be misconstrued etc. It's called having a fucking clue.

Guys should not get drunk with other guys even. I had a guy ex who was drugged by other guys as a 'prank' . It was totally sick. Nothing sexual happened. But he was shocked. Don't hang around with that drama.
But the reality is that some women DO want to get drunk and laid by a stranger. But yes, it's about having a clue. Women are not free from accountability of their actions.
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This. Women are also accountable for their actions.
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Posted by LuckyLibra979 I've been researching sidereal myself and heliocentric tho I find heliocentric more spiritual and natal or geocentric more practical. Professionals seem to debunk what doesn't fit their theory that's why I follow bottom lines and use my experiences to find my chart. Its a hobby but one I'm subjective towards
I don't know too much about the other two systems you mentioned. Sidereal fits my personality and the general aspects of my life well and therefore I follow it.
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Posted by Koniucha I have my moon sitting right on my ASC too
I have very heavy planets on my Asc - Jupiter and Saturn, add to that pluto as well.
I am actually moon dominant. 8 aspects to my moon. Super fun!
So, you're a real softy 😄
Ugh, yes.

I wish I could be a little tougher. I think that is why I am drawn to Cap moons and Saturn ruled people. They help ground me.
You are a lunar scorpio! You could beat all our asses!
No, no, I am very sensitive!

I do get upset, but mostly its just extreme sensitivity.
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I thought you had a Cancer Moon... ?

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Posted by DonnaElvira77Ah no wonder sensitive. I am cancer sun. All cancer moons i know are sensitive. :-) I am too a lot of the time. It's good , I think we can all be drawn to people tougher than us. Perhaps they are drawn to our sensitivity. But they have to have a little soft too!

I think i am drawn to cappies for the same reason. I know I am actually they tend to be tough. :-) You need a balance though. They need to be a little kind etc. A little soft makes the hard make sense.
What I said earlier about Saturn dominated people:

Posted by incandescentcancer That said, Saturn dominated people like me can be harsh on soft little cancer moons. We may not intend to hurt your feelings, but we will probably do it occasionally and then regret it.

I have that situation with my mom a lot who is a Cancer moon.
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Yes, they will give you stability and many other things like loyalty but they are also going to be a bit harsh.
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i think it's FREE WILL.

he had a choice.

and sadly having power and money, he thought he was GOD.

i did love his cosby show when i was little. I love family shows too. 😢


i feel bad for him, and i think it's just weakness IF he really did it.

the little conscience in the back of your head that says to you, (the little angel) that says, "this is NOT right. I won't do this!!!"
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this is not unusual for powerful folks though.

and he's the Year of the Ox. One of the luckiest signs, (like Hitler) but if he does bad things, he will fall. HARD.

you're given LOTS OF LUCK and happiness,but they only maintained if you're a good person and we all get tempted but we have to listen to the conscience that says, this is WRONG. we can't steal from others, or put people under drugs and take advantage of them.
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In reality you are talking about people who don't know each other well most of the time. You hear guys all the time saying they themselves don't want a girl drunk as they will not want anything to be misconstrued etc. It's called having a fucking clue.

Guys should not get drunk with other guys even. I had a guy ex who was drugged by other guys as a 'prank' . It was totally sick. Nothing sexual happened. But he was shocked. Don't hang around with that drama.
But the reality is that some women DO want to get drunk and laid by a stranger. But yes, it's about having a clue. Women are not free from accountability of their actions.
This. Women are also accountable for their actions.
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yes this is true BUT he was in the position of POWER.


he had a choice. These women he could easily crush!

no matter if they are were prostitutes or sluts or whatever. He turned away from what was Right versus wrong!! and went ahead and drugged them.


put yourself in a woman's position, among powerful men.

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In reality you are talking about people who don't know each other well most of the time. You hear guys all the time saying they themselves don't want a girl drunk as they will not want anything to be misconstrued etc. It's called having a fucking clue.

Guys should not get drunk with other guys even. I had a guy ex who was drugged by other guys as a 'prank' . It was totally sick. Nothing sexual happened. But he was shocked. Don't hang around with that drama.
But the reality is that some women DO want to get drunk and laid by a stranger. But yes, it's about having a clue. Women are not free from accountability of their actions.
This. Women are also accountable for their actions.
yes this is true BUT he was in the position of POWER.


he had a choice. These women he could easily crush!

no matter if they are were prostitutes or sluts or whatever. He turned away from what was Right versus wrong!! and went ahead and drugged them.


put yourself in a woman's position, among powerful men.

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This part of the discussion had nothing to do with Cosby.

This was totally another conversation about alcohol and sex and how both men and women had to take responsibility for their action.

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