Cancer ladies, advice please

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Hey everyone. Just looking for some advice on how I might ask out this Cancer lady I work with. It's a bit complicated so I'll provide a bit of background as well.

I'm an Aries/Pisces cusp, Sun 0 Aries, Moon in Cancer, Venus Aries, Mars Sag. I was recently hired on as the new manager at my place of employment and ultimately I am also her boss. She's also quite a bit younger than me (I'm 28, she's 20) but I'm pretty confident that she likes me. I've thought she was very attractive as well - all quietly charming and reserved. She also seems very mature for her age, which has been a huge factor for me even considering dating a woman so much younger than me.

I'm starting to fall hard for this girl and I haven't even dated her. I've read such puzzling accounts as to how I should pursue her that I was hoping I could get some thoughts directly from other Cancerian ladies.

I've only known her for about a month and I know that Cancers need time. I'm totally okay with that, but I've also read how I should be direct with her since she is unlikely to make the first move. What I can say is this: we sparked a conversation one night as we were closing up and she really seemed to get me. Ever since, she has been very friendly and even coming to me specifically for authorizations and work-advice rather than my co-manager who has been there for 2 years. Then, a couple nights in a row, her sisters came in and hung out for awhile. I kept noticing them staring at me from time to time and I got the feeling that she was talking to them about me and they were basically sizing me up from the big-sister perspective.

I don't know if this is all in my head or not, but I am going nuts over this girl. Thoughts—
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Hey everyone. Just looking for some advice on how I might ask out this Cancer lady I work with. It's a bit complicated so I'll provide a bit of background as well.

I'm an Aries/Pisces cusp, Sun 0 Aries, Moon in Cancer, Venus Aries, Mars Sag. I was recently hired on as the new manager at my place of employment and ultimately I am also her boss. She's also quite a bit younger than me (I'm 28, she's 20) but I'm pretty confident that she likes me. I've thought she was very attractive as well - all quietly charming and reserved. She also seems very mature for her age, which has been a huge factor for me even considering dating a woman so much younger than me.

I'm starting to fall hard for this girl and I haven't even dated her. I've read such puzzling accounts as to how I should pursue her that I was hoping I could get some thoughts directly from other Cancerian ladies.

I've only known her for about a month and I know that Cancers need time. I'm totally okay with that, but I've also read how I should be direct with her since she is unlikely to make the first move. What I can say is this: we sparked a conversation one night as we were closing up and she really seemed to get me. Ever since, she has been very friendly and even coming to me specifically for authorizations and work-advice rather than my co-manager who has been there for 2 years. Then, a couple nights in a row, her sisters came in and hung out for awhile. I kept noticing them staring at me from time to time and I got the feeling that she was talking to them about me and they were basically sizing me up from the big-sister perspective.

I don't know if this is all in my head or not, but I am going nuts over this girl. Thoughts—



Oooh, how exciting... It's all a bit 50 shades... I've gone all tingly...

Sadly, i'm a Libran, so can't advise... Just don't let Rachelann (Pisces) give you any advice though... She'll screw it up for you, like she did her own relationship... Then block you if you challenge her...

Good luck honey bunny... I love love, me :o) x
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Libra whatever your name is you're a real cookie monster...The guy ask for advice about a female cancerian and you had to go and call call the girl's name in your mouth...Get a life or go suck a
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To answer the OP--Check with the workplace rules regarding co-worker relationships before you even think of going there..If its a go--Then ask her if out on a date or to the movies and let her know that she can decline because you understand that you are her boss and you wouldn't want her to feel uncomfortable in any way! Secondly with everything you do be polite and a gentleman---Cancer women love that butter..Be confident and assertive and let her feel comfortable around you but it is important to respect her and her wishes..and I also suggest you start off as friends and not rush anything..Take your time, be patient and polite and PAY for EVERTHING on that date! We don't like cheapskates either.
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suck a what...?!... Do you need to finish yourself off...?

Ha ha!... 'call the girls name in my mouth'... What kind of language is that exactly?... Besides, I think you'll find I typed it...

P.S. I'm a bitch only when riled... try me!... Just learn English first! lol



You can't tear this one down...You are your "friends"on here...I meant a DICK a BIG BLACK ONE!..You worthless for calling Rachel Ann's name..that wasnt even call for..You love to start butter..well guess what I love to finish it...so lets go!
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Pay attention to the little details about her. Find out what makes her happy, sad, worried and like a lady. Then work with that. I.g. My cancer loves anime and specifically she LOVES these four shows. I noticed how much she loves these shows and how much she's a big kid at heart so I once got her some toy like things and a tshirt from one of those shows and when I gave it to her I said one of the sayings the main character says when I gave it to her. Her eyes lit up and she was really happy about the things and really happy I paid attention to what her favorite anime shoes are an even took the time to watch the show to know the saying of her favorite character. Don't start big, start with small things until she gets the hint. One big thing. Then after that ask her.
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See...You got NOTHING...I told you already...WRONG cookiemonster!!! See my dear Libralicious72 I was a "bully"...so I know who on here is one and who isn't and how far your dumb asses will go...(because its all written and nothing physical) and you girl iS one(Im talking about with Rachel here) becsuse I know you're relying on her "sensitivities"to WIN because she is sensitive! But you need to leave the girl the treetrunk alone and focus on your damn self and your relationship and stop picking on her because you wouldn't want someone else doing it to you..You and everybody else and I do mean EVERYBODY else need to treetrunk off and leave the girl alone. .You cowardly little cookiemonster!
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As I said before--Thats all you got— You dont know her either and you bullied the damn girl today.. you and the rest of "followers" that helped you on dxp...I would rather not be like this to anyone but YOU I don't like..I watched you give this girl advice then turn around and throw her personal problem that she reached out for help with back in her face! You remind me of friends that you confide in and once the friendship goes bad all the person's business would be in the street...Plus the OP specifically came on here asking for the advice on here from Cancerian women and you just decided you wanna let it be known not to take advice from Rachael because she messed up her own relationship...Did he ask you that— You need to get lost..don't bring your messed up ways on the cancer forum because we would like to be considered nice people....picking on the damn girl all the time like you have no life..
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Posted by Libralicious72
Oooh, how exciting... It's all a bit 50 shades... I've gone all tingly...

Sadly, i'm a Libran, so can't advise... Just don't let Rachelann (Pisces) give you any advice though... She'll screw it up for you, like she did her own relationship... Then block you if you challenge her...

Good luck honey bunny... I love love, me



go away

some of you come in here and it takes little time to understand why your men are gone

try going NC on the Cancer board



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Posted by crabRiot
To answer the OP--Check with the workplace rules regarding co-worker relationships before you even think of going there..If its a go--Then ask her if out on a date or to the movies and let her know that she can decline because you understand that you are her boss and you wouldn't want her to feel uncomfortable in any way! Secondly with everything you do be polite and a gentleman---Cancer women love that butter..Be confident and assertive and let her feel comfortable around you but it is important to respect her and her wishes..and I also suggest you start off as friends and not rush anything..Take your time, be patient and polite and PAY for EVERTHING on that date! We don't like cheapskates either.


i fucking knew panda dude's post was going to spoil the fun
LOL

this was going to be my initial post, even before libralicious posted:
LOL
panda dude, let the crab girls respond, i wanted to see what they have to say
now you've messed up the thread and gonna influence their replies !!

i was just thinking, good! finally a thread for the cancer women to reply to as they are always responding to threads made by women wanting crab man advice coz there be nothin else to do in here.

then what happens, a cancer MAN is first to respond in this thread asking for female crab advice!!
where were u when aqua09 posted her questions??

the crab board is the weirdest bestest fun
L-O-fuckin-L


not that crabriot is making much sense even after reading pandas post.
LOL...
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Oh I think think Crabettes can speak their own minds (how icy experience do you have with Cancer women?)

As far as Aqua09, her thread was an exercise in mental masturbation with a generous sprinkling of insults based on a very irrational premise. Why bother responding?

Yes , the Cancer board is a cotton candy, rollercoaster type of fun. Just don't be an asshole and enjoy the ride.
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Posted by Libralicious72
suck a what...?!... Do you need to finish yourself off...?

Ha ha!... 'call the girls name in my mouth'... What kind of language is that exactly?... Besides, I think you'll find I typed it...

P.S. I'm a bitch only when riled... try me!... Just learn English first! lol



You can't tear this one down...You are your "friends"on here...I meant a DICK a BIG BLACK ONE!..You worthless for calling Rachel Ann's name..that wasnt even call for..You love to start butter..well guess what I love to finish it...so lets go!



Why black precisely?... Sounds racist to me... Is that your intent?..
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You haven't met Clueless Cancer yet, have you?
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ll of the responses; I pretty much expected what people would say, but it's good to hear it verbatim.

Posted by crabRiot
let her know that she can decline because you understand that you are her boss and you wouldn't want her to feel uncomfortable in any way! Secondly with everything you do be polite and a gentleman---Cancer women love that butter..Be confident and assertive and let her feel comfortable around you but it is important to respect her and her wishes..and I also suggest you start off as friends and not rush anything..Take your time, be patient and polite and PAY for EVERTHING on that date! We don't like cheapskates either.


Good advice and it shouldn't be a problem. 'I am' Aries; the chivalrous knight and perfect gentleman (most of the time). And I'm definitely no cheap ass 😉


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I would say(being a Cancer lady) keep it casual let her know subtly you like her and invite her out for fun not so much a date and don't try to get physical until you get a green light from her...what is her venus and mars sign?


Good advice. I wouldn't have any intentions of pressuring her into anything. I think I'd be a good match for a Cancer in that I've pretty much only ever been in long-term relationships (2-3+ years) and I'm certainly not the type that is looking to take advantage of anyone.

As far as her Mars/Venus, I haven't looked yet. I feel kinda awkward looking at someone's chart without his/her permission.


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I hate to mix business and/with pleasure. Aries and Cancer romance requires a lottttt of patience from the Aries. Can't rush Cancer girls like you rush through everything else in life. Aries men are so irresistible though..
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Exactly why I'm posting; I'm confident in pursuing any woman who is romantic and spontaneous (most successful with Libra/Sag exes, etc.). But women who shy away from my bursts of passion are an alien concept. With Venus and Sun in Aries, I love to chase and surprise and shower princesses with romance and affection. The hard part has always been not going too hard and too fast.
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maybe she wants you to date her sister. js. maybe.



A fair thought, though I think I'm safe there based on them bringing children on the first night and what I can only assume to be one of the sister's SO on the second night. Of course, I don't have all of the information there, but I highly doubt it.

I didn't mention in my OP how her expression and tone changes when she talks to me. It's different from how she connects with anyone else in the company. With them, it's like she's indifferent and matter-of-factual (though still nice and polite). But when she talks to me, her eyes are dazzling and it's like she's been waiting her entire shift to hear what I have to say.

And now I'm the one who can hardly wait until we work together again. I literally didn't sleep last night. She is an enchantress..
or I have confounded myself entirely.
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Posted by Namy
I hate to mix business and/with pleasure. Aries and Cancer romance requires a lottttt of patience from the Aries. Can't rush Cancer girls like you rush through everything else in life. Aries men are so irresistible though..



Exactly why I'm posting; I'm confident in pursuing any woman who is romantic and spontaneous (most successful with Libra/Sag exes, etc.). But women who shy away from my bursts of passion are an alien concept. With Venus and Sun in Aries, I love to chase and surprise and shower princesses with romance and affection. The hard part has always been not going too hard and too fast.
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Aries man, Cancer woman chemistry when it's there..is intense and undeniable. Intensity may not scare her (that's what I like about Aries men..confidence and intensity), you just have to go one step at a time. I'd advice you hint your intentions and see how she reacts, little doses.
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I really don't like office romances. What if something goes bad? You have to work with her. I would keep it professional regardless if ok by rules or not. If in another department sure but an employee? I don't think so.

Sorry for bringing this back on topic. 😛



Same thoughts here when I initially responded.
I've seen the result of things going bad between two co-workers. Although they were in different departments, the guy had to work with/rely on the girl to get things done. Awkward is a mild way to describe it. She eventually left the company with that failed relationship a factor.

Now translate that to supervisor-subordinate situation. I personally encountered this where the women tried to override a decision made by me by going to her boyfriend-boss. Talk about a deer-in-the-headlights reaction. Bet his "no" decision messed up that night's boning session.
Corporations usually write their policies with the situation like mine to avoid instances of favoritism.
Different departments where the couple doesn't directly work with each other are seen as "ok". Supervisor-subordinate is problematic.

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Posted by kissmygrits
I really don't like office romances. What if something goes bad? You have to work with her. I would keep it professional regardless if ok by rules or not. If in another department sure but an employee? I don't think so.

Sorry for bringing this back on topic. 😛



Same thoughts here when I initially responded.
I've seen the result of things going bad between two co-workers. Although they were in different departments, the guy had to work with/rely on the girl to get things done. Awkward is a mild way to describe it. She eventually left the company with that failed relationship a factor.

Now translate that to supervisor-subordinate situation. I personally encountered this where the women tried to override a decision made by me by going to her boyfriend-boss. Talk about a deer-in-the-headlights reaction. Bet his "no" decision messed up that night's boning session.
Corporations usually write their policies with the situation like mine to avoid instances of favoritism.
Different departments where the couple doesn't directly work with each other are seen as "ok". Supervisor-subordinate is problematic.

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I appreciate the responses and very much agree with both sentiments and concerns. The *is* further context I can share and I apologize for neglecting to do so prior to this (I've been texting this from my phone in between other activities).

I have once before pursued an office romance and for the most part it turned out very well. I absolutely understand that I may have lucked out then or perhaps we just vibed well enough as a couple, but there was never an issue at work and in fact, after we began dating, she worked even harder to maintain her relations at work because she knew my position and how disagreements might implicate us. About 6 months into us dating, she resigned from the company because I was making enough to support us both and offer her a fairly luxurious, carefree life.

Regardless and more importantly, I haven't stopped interviewing with other companies even after I got this job. I may very well not be employed there for much longer as I wasn't initially satisfied with my pay agreement. I just finished a 2nd interview about an hour ago and I'm hoping to receive a competitive offer.
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Hey all, I'm not seeking advice on this anymore but felt like writing therapeutically and sharing. First, if you respond, I hope you'll take it easy on me since I'll be writing pretty candidly.

So I ended up asking Cancer lady out. She said yes and then backed out the next day after I texted her. Within the two months, there was a lot of back and forth going on. She avoided me the following day but then sought me out and initiated a few short conversations the day after that. Every time I felt like things were getting warm, I'd test the waters and then she'd avoid me for a day. She'd always come back the day after that with warmth, though nothing that I would consider real substance. I am, however, sappy and romantic (or delusional) enough to consider her attention to be of enormous value.. so I don't mean to sound unappreciative.

Come the February new moon, I had become pretty emotionally exhausted and had essentially given up, resolving to move on, but to honor my feelings and honor her in my own quiet way that was still within boundaries. Again with the sappy, romantic, delusional, unrequited stuff.

I think it's worthy context to share that I've only had 5 meaningful romantic relationships in my life. 4 of those were of the love-at-first-sight variety, pursuing 4 of them myself. Of the 4 I pursued, I won 3 of them over, but ended 1 within a week. 3 of the 5 relations became long-term (2-3+ years). And one that never worked out even after I pursued her solely for over 4 years.

I'll be honest - leading up to March 5th, I had cried over this girl for like 3 days. One of those days was the annual company party, I put on an $ 800 suit, had the attention of the room and the ladies in it, but she didn't show up. I left early pretty frustrated.

Between early March and last week, in attempts to move on, I've had a string of odd attractions to and from about 8 other women, either leading no where or them being not up to my admittedly ridiculous 'standards'. Since then, I've avoided Cancer lady in hopes that she doesn't feel threatened. However, there have been a few occasions where I was able to help her or prevent mishaps on her behalf. Most notably was just recently, 2 days before the lunar eclipse.

She is generally very good at her job and exceptionally dedicated, but she may have made a pretty substantial mistake, upsetting one of our best customers who is also good friends with my boss.

(Continued below)
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I immediately addressed him and did some quick damage control. She was pretty upset and I figured she had retreated, finding her outside nearly in tears and on the phone with a friend. I'm pretty sure she was expecting to be yelled at and lectured, but I consoled her numerous times over the next hour and a half, switching between that, returning to our guest, making some calls, and resolving the issue. She thanked me at the end of the night, and probably had the greatest extent of a real conversation ever.

Thankfully, it sounds like there hasn't been any further negative recourse, either from him or directed to my boss, myself, our company, or her.

With this eclipse, with this event, and with some questionable behaviors from the Pisces lady I've been talking to, I can't help but to think about Miss Cancer. There's not really any real reason for posting all of this, just putting out into the Universe and to get it off my chest. I'll be okay if she doesn't want anything other than a platonic relationship. Just wishing I could be more...
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I don't know if I'm really a typical Cancer so take what I say with a grain of salt. I will just tell you what I am like and you can make of it what you will. If I am really into someone I don't need or want time or space. I will jump right in and make it obvious to them. If a man is not sure if I am interested or not, I'm probably not. If I like someone but that romantic/sexual chemistry just isn't there for me, I may appear to them to be confusing because I am trying to spare their feelings, want to just be friends, appreciate their attention, or feel like I "should" be interested because they seem like a really nice guy (or all of those things). If I don't make time for someone new in my life (as opposed to an old friend who would understand if we don't see each other for a while when I'm busy or going through stuff) they are clearly not that important to me, even if I may like and be nice to them. Another reason for being flakey or avoiding people is if I am feeling down on myself or insecure though. I am a love at first sight kind of person, I've never ended up dating someone where I didn't rapidly know I was interested. Often I will not want to be friends with someone who I know is really interested in more than that as I don't want to lead them on or hurt them.
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@Rowan - Thank you so much for your insight. I would not be surprised if she doesn't have that 'something' for me. It will be okay if things don't turn out.

It's just so hard to read. It's possible that she is dealing with some insecurities too; especially based on some of her social media content. And it feels like she is deathly afraid to talk to me most of the time, possibly a bit intimidated. But it also feels like she really tries sometimes too.

She'll hover close-ish at a distance and listen as I joke with someone, even though she doesn't really need to be there. Recently I've noticed her coming near my office and striking up more personal conversations while I'm present, just not directly talking to me.

But man, even though she will sometimes go out of her way to come find me and tell me something totally inconsequential, sometimes we'll be headed to the same place, just her and I, and she will avoid me like the plague. It breaks my heart a little bit each time.
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You'll never know until you talk to her. What bad things happened in your relationship? Were you official with this one? Most cancers have communication issues and don't come off as how they really are inside. Sometimes they wait for you to make the moves if you messed up in the start when they were aggressive or sometimes they are shy people when in love. Talk to her. If she gives u tht much heartache and after seeing 8 people you still can't get right then she must be worth it. Talk to her. If you can't get the boldness then write her a love letter. Cancer chicks dig that shit. And sometimes they don't know you have feelings so put yourself out there. If u already have spilled your heart out then don't bother she's not into you.