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Posted by MoonArtist
Coming from my perspective, once the doubt of trust has been planted with solid evidence to back it up, it's next to impossible to change that. Someone pulling a stunt like that would be on probation for a very long time, and every little action would be scrutinized to the fullest, whether or not you realize you're being scrutinized. If anything else shows that there's repeat distrustful behavior, and not just towards me, but to others, and eventually that person gets pushed to the curb forever.
I have yet to find a person who broke trust and changed their ways, but that's just my experience in this life so far. What I've noticed is that people have their character traits so ingrained by the time they're adults, that they don't want to put the effort in to change, or they don't think they need to change.

Posted by fullwaterpiscesPosted by MoonArtist
Coming from my perspective, once the doubt of trust has been planted with solid evidence to back it up, it's next to impossible to change that. Someone pulling a stunt like that would be on probation for a very long time, and every little action would be scrutinized to the fullest, whether or not you realize you're being scrutinized. If anything else shows that there's repeat distrustful behavior, and not just towards me, but to others, and eventually that person gets pushed to the curb forever.
I have yet to find a person who broke trust and changed their ways, but that's just my experience in this life so far. What I've noticed is that people have their character traits so ingrained by the time they're adults, that they don't want to put the effort in to change, or they don't think they need to change.
Lets just say what she did was systematically wrong, unapologetic... and yeah the trust might be deeply shatter, yeah she will definitely be on long sentence of probation...
But you need to be nice, i know trust is everything, if only cancers realize (some people) deserve a chance once or twice... not everything in life is black and white... remember that cancer people are humans and you guys mess up too and you shit stink as well, so if you where in a similar situation you would probably would like the other person to give you another chance to prove yourselfclick to expand
Posted by fullwaterpisces
As advice (not an expert) but it will basically summarize the 1000 advices all over this board.
1- Be very consistent (treat him no different than before, as this never happen)
2- Build sort of a thick skin, regardless he is willing to try, there will be moments of moodiness and he could go on his shell to think and reflect for no apparent reason.
3- Be very patient, very very patient, you will not understand most of his reactions sometimes.
4- Don't beat of yourself on guilt to much, you already apologize and working on doing the right thing, you are human we all do stupid mistake as wrong as it was, he has given you another chance, it means you might burn one of you "lives" (like video games) but remember cancers only allow only so much... the amount of them will be different on a cancer by cancer base.
5- You will probably need to be conscious of your actions and words, like your are under scrutiny because you are and god knows for how long.
6- Be loving
7- Be confident about yourself, and show him who really are.
8- Don't become a doormat just because you made a mistake, he will lose respect.
9- And communicate direct and honest, but in a loving way.
10- Good luck!!
Posted by fullwaterpisces
7- Be confident about yourself, and show him who really are.
8- Don't become a doormat just because you made a mistake, he will lose respect.
9- And communicate direct and honest, but in a loving way.
10- Good luck!!

Posted by pisces123Posted by fullwaterpisces
7- Be confident about yourself, and show him who really are.
8- Don't become a doormat just because you made a mistake, he will lose respect.
9- And communicate direct and honest, but in a loving way.
10- Good luck!!
8- how does being a doormat exactly fit in here? i am asking because i wonder if i've been clingy or too available.Not sure though.click to expand
This relates to the part of not beat yourself up too much... we Pisces are our worst enemy when is all about guilt, we judge us harder that everybody for the fact that, that we were so "dumb" to make such stupid mistake, because we understand what it is to be on the other person's shoes, we know how much it hurts, and yet we did it... so when that happens we tent to let people get away with things just because we keep "punishing" ourselves for our mistake... that could lead into becoming a doormat.. clingy annoys...

Posted by pisces123
AND another question is,i asked him if he would like us to talk on phone as before.He said he would love to and agrees that our phone talks is something which binds us closer together. However,he hasnt initiated the phone call since the episode. It has been just me.We didnt phone talk yesterday. Should i just initiate the calls myself or wait for him to do it?

Posted by MoonArtistPosted by fullwaterpiscesPosted by MoonArtist
Coming from my perspective, once the doubt of trust has been planted with solid evidence to back it up, it's next to impossible to change that. Someone pulling a stunt like that would be on probation for a very long time, and every little action would be scrutinized to the fullest, whether or not you realize you're being scrutinized. If anything else shows that there's repeat distrustful behavior, and not just towards me, but to others, and eventually that person gets pushed to the curb forever.
I have yet to find a person who broke trust and changed their ways, but that's just my experience in this life so far. What I've noticed is that people have their character traits so ingrained by the time they're adults, that they don't want to put the effort in to change, or they don't think they need to change.
Lets just say what she did was systematically wrong, unapologetic... and yeah the trust might be deeply shatter, yeah she will definitely be on long sentence of probation...
But you need to be nice, i know trust is everything, if only cancers realize (some people) deserve a chance once or twice... not everything in life is black and white... remember that cancer people are humans and you guys mess up too and you shit stink as well, so if you where in a similar situation you would probably would like the other person to give you another chance to prove yourself
We do make mistakes, but because we know how much some things hurt, and how hard it is to win trust back, we tend to be more careful about how we treat people. I would never in a million years catfish someone, unless it was an enemy and I was purposely setting them up for something.click to expand

Posted by fullwaterpiscesPosted by MoonArtistPosted by fullwaterpiscesPosted by MoonArtist
Coming from my perspective, once the doubt of trust has been planted with solid evidence to back it up, it's next to impossible to change that. Someone pulling a stunt like that would be on probation for a very long time, and every little action would be scrutinized to the fullest, whether or not you realize you're being scrutinized. If anything else shows that there's repeat distrustful behavior, and not just towards me, but to others, and eventually that person gets pushed to the curb forever.
I have yet to find a person who broke trust and changed their ways, but that's just my experience in this life so far. What I've noticed is that people have their character traits so ingrained by the time they're adults, that they don't want to put the effort in to change, or they don't think they need to change.
Lets just say what she did was systematically wrong, unapologetic... and yeah the trust might be deeply shatter, yeah she will definitely be on long sentence of probation...
But you need to be nice, i know trust is everything, if only cancers realize (some people) deserve a chance once or twice... not everything in life is black and white... remember that cancer people are humans and you guys mess up too and you shit stink as well, so if you where in a similar situation you would probably would like the other person to give you another chance to prove yourself
We do make mistakes, but because we know how much some things hurt, and how hard it is to win trust back, we tend to be more careful about how we treat people. I would never in a million years catfish someone, unless it was an enemy and I was purposely setting them up for something.
Yeah we also do that, but as much as we try... we are only humans... in the same spirit if we try not to hurt someone because we know how it feels, we should try to not be so hard on someone that messes up, because we do too...
now this exclude, repetitive patterns of bad behavior and constant BS...click to expand




Posted by MoonArtist
You don't really want a Crab's perspective, it seems, so take it to the Fish board. But good luck with that.


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He said he doesnt want to lose me because of the bond we shared and still continue to share so we are still together.We are willing to make things work for us again. It's kinda ambiguous though because he said he is just unable to put a tag on the nature of relation we now share. He doesnt call it a "relationship" but at the same time when i said "you said break up was no where in your mind.You should have told me that we are breaking up.It's a break up afterall anyway"
He immediately corrected saying that it's not a breakup according to him but rather a "repair-job".He said that we should continue the way we are right now,allow time to heal the pain and then see what we feel for each other,if we can reach the same depth as before. When i asked him to elaborate that,he said i musnt be overly optimistic and consider all odds if his heart again comes in play,brings in the intimacy.He said that may or may not happen again and we should consider all odds. He apologized and said he's been very emotionally detached and it's just his head talking to me like this right now.He said his heart has shut down completely.
I just want to be me with him. However,I do wanna know what can i do to have him have his heart open to me again. I know it will take time.Maybe a lot of time but I am willing to wait. Another thing is we both sound way better on phone than on chat. We still have the affection and the fun on phone(which has been dead on chat now). He said he loves my voice and agrees that our phone talks help binding us closer. Also,the first time we had a video chat was 2 hrs after the revelation. We couldnt believe with the way we talked. His anger calmed down after seeing me. Instead,he was affectionate,complimented me and flirty that night. But he again got back to his hurt angry detached self when we were on chat. I am assuming its because of his moodiness and probably the fact that we chatting on my original account,the realization of it,is constantly reminding him of the bad episode.He said he feels insecure and vulnerable with thoughts like "what if i already have a boyfriend?" or "my affection and love has been fake since day 1?"