Why I am a Misogynist

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Ya, I said it!

I've been pretty screwed over by women in my life... starting back to childhood. My mother had a best friend. She would come over and hang out with my mom for awhile... and then disappear into my brother's bedroom, where she would spend hours. As a 9 year old kid... I knew this shit wasn't right so I confronted my mother about it. I stood in the middle of the room and raged about the giant pink elephant messing with my 16 year old brother right under my family's nose!!!

My mother did nothing. This bitch taunted me behind my families back... and when it came out that she was having an affair with my brother... nothing really happened. That was the first time..

After that it has been one so called "girlfriend" after another that has fucked up our relationship by being greedy, cruel, selfish and/or self-serving. I was reading the thread on Cancers and loyalty and hell to the ya, most of the time it is to our detriment. I just axed a "friend" for backstabbing me, just had a chick I don't even know take one look at me and hate me on sight... WHY? because in both cases I had something(s) that they wanted.

This has really messed with my head.

I guess I don't dislike all women. I love my mom, my daughter and myself. I have a couple of female friends I have good relationships with.. but only because I keep them at a safe distance. None of them are in close to me. I'm tired of asking, "why?"... I think it's just something I have to accept. Cancers have a way of picking up on people's INTENT. Everyone makes mistakes yes... if it is innocent, fine. But if you have an agenda.. if you are out to achieve a goal by hurting another.. you are scum of the earth in my book and it is open season.

And please don't come in here and tell me all the problems with men... cause I am very aware of them. I am talking about why SOME women act the way they do. And don't get your panties in a bunch because if you are not one of them women... this isn't for you. (But I bet you've sabotaged, made catty comments about, thought yourself better than, or tried to get close to another woman's man at least once in your life)

*rant over*


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* not quite over*

The thing that really gets me is there where clear signs that my "friend" had ill intent. Signs that I CHOSE to ignore because in my heart I just didn't think someone would do me like that. A sucker in my belief of human decency. I've definitely made my mistakes and have had some karmic pay backs in my life that I recognized and learned from...

but wow. just wow....
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survival of the fittest? I guess genetically women want the best for themselves and stomping out other women is how that is achieved. Hmmm...

And now I'm being very "girly" because logically I see the picture and have done what I needed to do. But I don't want to dwell on this... let it get into my thinking and weigh me down. But my emotions have to catch up with my head and I don't want to dedicate the time to it. I don't want to work it out. I want it to be over...

*throws herself on floor and has a tantrum*
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Posted by aurora

It's not like that they don't care, they just care more for themselves, and sometimes they are so desperate to fulfill their needs that they completely forget that they are not alone in this world.





This is what I've been saying in my head. I understand this.. I would say it is more about trying to feed their insecurities and wants than needs tho...

A woman is not going to react to someone in such an extreme way if it doesn't touch a nerve with her. And mostly... that nerve stems from insecurities that have been cultivated in childhood or from past experiences.

Believe me.. I know exactly why that backstabbing, no good, usurper did what she did. I know she was feeling particularly low and depressed in her life and she just followed her old patterns.

No excuses tho...
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Posted by xxsyzygyxx
"Why I am a Misogynist" and then attempts to qualify it....

"Why I am a Racist"

"Why I am Homophobic" .... and so forth.

You cannot blame an entire group on a few experiences. You had a rough childhood and some bad experiences as an adult. Boohoo. Get over it.

You think you're the only one to have experienced pain?

The difference is that some of us are strong enough to rise above it.





look... we found one! a little bitch that has probably pulled a couple of 'not so nice things in her lifetime', and would care to forget abut them.

I like how you try to group an observation on how SOME women biologically operate in social/communal relationships with a selfish, competitive manner with... Racists and Gay Bashers.. that's a bit of a reach, don't you think? Do you know what race I am? Do you know if I'm gay or not?

No.. all you know is that a shared one personal story, and am having a hard time dealing with the betrayal of someone that was like family to me.

As I said in my OP, self-righteous cows need not answer... since you are so far above...

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Shellshocker, sounds like you need to put your foot down. Let NO be your word of the day. Don't let them take advantage. Some women will try to take advantage of you and others will actually look out for you. Find the ones that help make life better. Don't let the actions of some turn you off to the rest. You could have some really wonderful experiences if you find the right one.
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My crab bf has a history of extreme loyalty & giving everyone the benefit of the doubt - especially if he has a history with them. As a result, people - both men and women - have taken advantage of him, toyed with his emotions, used him and screwed him over. He also has a history of giving people chance after chance - not truly believing that they'd intentionally hurt him. In the end, he's become cynical and angry and the ones who truly do love him pay the price.
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Posted by LunarMaiden
Find the ones that help make life better. Don't let the actions of some turn you off to the rest. You could have some really wonderful experiences if you find the right one.



Yes!!! This might not make sense, but I find that knowing WHERE and HOW someone fits in your life is key. I have fun girlfriends, who I go out with and have lots of laughs with.. but it is compartmentalized. They know almost nothing about me and tease me about it. I know how much I can trust these women, and if I let it go beyond that... then it is shame on me. I learned this awhile ago..

It is when you have let someone "in"... when you KNOW they have the ability to act a certain way... but you thought they would treat you different because of the amount of love you have shown them. They've seen your vulnerabilities and you thought they would have respect for them... this is the killer!!!!

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My crab bf has a history of extreme loyalty & giving everyone the benefit of the doubt - especially if he has a history with them.

He also has a history of giving people chance after chance - not truly believing that they'd intentionally hurt him. In the end, he's become cynical and angry and the ones who truly do love him pay the price.
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I feel for him. If you have history with someone... you have higher expectations

The many chances thing.... not a good idea. It should only be once.. so you can avoid the cynical, angry part. I think this is why Cancers test so much. Show me your true colours!

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Posted by xxsyzygyxx
"Why I am a Misogynist" and then attempts to qualify it....

"Why I am a Racist"

"Why I am Homophobic" .... and so forth.

You cannot blame an entire group on a few experiences. You had a rough childhood and some bad experiences as an adult. Boohoo. Get over it.

You think you're the only one to have experienced pain?

The difference is that some of us are strong enough to rise above it.





look... we found one! a little bitch that has probably pulled a couple of 'not so nice things in her lifetime', and would care to forget abut them.

I like how you try to group an observation on how SOME women biologically operate in social/communal relationships with a selfish, competitive manner with... Racists and Gay Bashers.. that's a bit of a reach, don't you think? Do you know what race I am? Do you know if I'm gay or not?

No.. all you know is that a shared one personal story, and am having a hard time dealing with the betrayal of someone that was like family to me.

As I said in my OP, self-righteous cows need not answer... since you are so far above...




Lol...You'll be ok. It's obvious you're a fighter. . You might wanna ask yourself why you keep attracting those types of women into your life. But crabbycrab is right when he says it'll take time to heal. Whether u want it to or not.
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haha.. thanks. i'm drawn to people with emotional baggage... idk, it's my thing. but i don't carry it for them any more
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Posted by xxnightbynight
UGH!!!!! You know what? - We all have issues. We all need to learn how to cope with them, learn from them, and MOVE ON. -

- Ask for assistance from the universe and you'll find your way. - Just don't put the blame on women because of deep seeded childhood issues. - lol - sorry for the rant. It just bugs me.



ok. it was an almost 6 year friendship, went thru a lot together and it ended about 2 weeks ago... so ya, it may take a minute.

I'm not taking it out on anyone... because i'm ranting about it here.. and once i've gone through all the stages (this one being anger) I'll be fine

Everyone has the ability to "get over" emotional issues, they just have to choose to. That doesn't make those experiences go away or change the effect they had on our lives... we just don't feel it anymore. But again, it is a choice.

I've dealt with my past... but it still contributes to who I am and the choices I make, today. How stupid would I be if i didn't remember painful experiences and try to avoid them in the future. To do that I think Cancers have to feel EVERYTHING concerning big events before we can let it go. Feel it, cleanse it... move on.
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You know I am no innocent person, I have hurt good people before and treated them BAD but then again I have been hurt by BAD people and I treated them OVERLY GOOD. As you get older you learn, things will always come back to you in the way you least expect it, Instead of dwelling on what has happened or what could have been or what you can not control just take it and look at it as a lesson learned. Be more cautious of the people you keep around, we often ignore the red flags, sometimes we want to believe that they can be fixed but I learned a long time ago a person will only change or fix themselves if THEY want too no matter what you do. I hope that you heal fast from this situation but dont change who you are because of it, if you start being mean you will not be yourself. Dont ever allow anyone to change your character because in the end all that they have done and all that you have done will come back, Karma is double sided. Bad & Good.
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Don't get thrown off by the Topic Title.. It was catchy... I have a healthy distrust of women and a huge dislike of their motivations in doing things.. is too long. i guess it would have been more acceptable but i don't tend to get caught up on stuff like that during a rant.

But I think MOST people already got that... this is the (indirect) Cancer forum...

The interesting thing for me now in reading this thread... is why it makes a difference if I am Male or Female? People are more sympathetic to a male with this attitude.. but if I'm a woman then what? I'm labeled a trader to my "kind"

Cognitive Dissonance.. but that is another thread all together.

Men talk about this all the time!!!! Women PRETEND to be all pro-women and sisterhood and shite but it is just that... shite. At least men don't try to fake it.. Take Nicrobliz's (no hard feelings Nicro 😉 experience with his female co-worker. Why did she get all offended... then later admitted to not trusting women herself? She probably felt guilty about it..

I don't feel guilty about it. Women hate women... on some level. Not ALL.. but more so than not. Chris Rock knows what he's talking about.. as do most people who posted here

I have nothing against xxsyzygyxx, whether she is nice, cool or what. She came in here with a pretty typical catty, self righteous attitude that you don't generally see from men. No offense, but when her response was to hurl insults... she pretty much proved my point...

Some very interesting ideas and thoughts, as well as the usual DXP derailments..


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Posted by shellshocker
Don't get thrown off by the Topic Title.. It was catchy... I have a healthy distrust of women and a huge dislike of their motivations in doing things.. is too long. i guess it would have been more acceptable but i don't tend to get caught up on stuff like that during a rant.

But I think MOST people already got that... this is the (indirect) Cancer forum...

The interesting thing for me now in reading this thread... is why it makes a difference if I am Male or Female? People are more sympathetic to a male with this attitude.. but if I'm a woman then what? I'm labeled a trader to my "kind"

Cognitive Dissonance.. but that is another thread all together.

Men talk about this all the time!!!! Women PRETEND to be all pro-women and sisterhood and shite but it is just that... shite. At least men don't try to fake it.. Take Nicrobliz's (no hard feelings Nicro 😉 experience with his female co-worker. Why did she get all offended... then later admitted to not trusting women herself? She probably felt guilty about it..

I don't feel guilty about it. Women hate women... on some level. Not ALL.. but more so than not. Chris Rock knows what he's talking about.. as do most people who posted here

I have nothing against xxsyzygyxx, whether she is nice, cool or what. She came in here with a pretty typical catty, self righteous attitude that you don't generally see from men. No offense, but when her response was to hurl insults... she pretty much proved my point...

Some very interesting ideas and thoughts, as well as the usual DXP derailments..




I have a lot of anger towards women as well. I have trouble maintaining friendships with most women, I get along with guys easier. It's crazy how you think a girl can be a great friend and then she turns out to be a backstabber. An old friend of mine (a cancer) was a very close friend but she admit being jealous of me and I noticed she would try to seduce some of the guys who liked me (if she knew them), her attempts worked on a few guys.
(However our friendship was very 'close' and had some bisexual elements to it). I don't understand why girls get jealous. Jealousy doesn't give them a good reason to be bitches.
Another old friend of mine found out her boyfriend had a crush on me so she told our other mutual friends to not hang out with me anymore.
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(I had set her boyfriend up with her because I wanted him to leave me alone haha.)

Another friend of mine turned out to be a bitch too. When one of my ex's broke up with me (not the abusive ex) she was the first to check up on me, then she dated him quite fast.
I feel annoyed at her, because when we were little kids we were very close, when her mom died the girl slept at my house... Talk about betrayal.

Anyway I feel your pain shellshocker. Good luck.
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At the end, what can you do, be aware of all of it, try to understand (but like you said, psychology and other branches have still many questions) improve yourself as much as you can, choose the people who you let in your life, take responsibility for your actions (again like you said), and you should be fine. You think this is easy? I think it's very hard lol



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my close friend is a cancer and he's pretty much the same way as the OP..but with him, he tends to pick the worst women on earth to be in relationships with..

its like he wants to get a chick thats beneath him as if to say "aye, you should love and do right by me unconditionally because nobody else would even take you serious",LMAO..and of course that'll never happen, and these low life broads that he picks ends up doing all types of foul shit to him, and now he pretty much thinks all women are the same and hates them,lmao

but what he fails to realize is that he's a captain-save-a-hoe and that you can't change a hoe into a house wife, fool!..or maybe he does realize it and actually want drama in his life?? he'll never admit or say thats the case, but thats how it look based on his past

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And don't get your panties in a bunch because if you are not one of them women... this isn't for you. (But I bet you've sabotaged, made catty comments about, thought yourself better than, or tried to get close to another woman's man at least once in your life)



Honestly, certain people *are* better than others, although not inherently. Do I believe I'm a better person than violent sex offenders and those profiting at the painful expense of somebody else? Yes. Men and women have an equal capacity to be toxic characters and should be viewed as such.

Sabotage takes more time and effort than the deed is worth IMO. Certainly, I retaliate accordingly if wronged, mostly via confrontation. Involves no plotting and it has yet to result in sabotage.

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I agree with inherently..

We are not talking about violent sex offenders... though I do not value myself more than them. I don't think they should be treated less human than anyone else...
yes, they should pay for their crimes but cruelty to any human, is still cruelty. It is their actions that are on trial... both men and women are capable of horrible acts.

Just like if someone tries to profit from another's pain.. it is their actions, not the person who is the problem. I don't think I'm better than them.. I just don't choose to live my life style like that and can distance myself, physically, emotionally, or mentally.. yet still value them as a person. IF I didn't value them.. I would probably return the cruel treatment.

Subconscious sabotage that stems from... whatever... does not take any time to plot, nor does it take effort from a person who is not aware of themselves. If you are a scummy person, you will naturally act in a scummy way..