asking for more

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so last night I spoke to my cap bf and told him I need more affection and more love from him.

I put it across very calmly, and while I am no happy w him hosting his female fren, he says it will only happen this time.

I also asked told him that I really want to settle down In the future ( no I am
not pushing him to marry me now) and if he doesn't see settling down as an option then maybe we r looking for different things.

his response was v assuring, he says he will put in more effort. and he didn't seem any offended w what I say.

he seems happy though. things appear normal.

I also told him I hope we can communicate this effectively and openly 🙂 so which means if he is unhappy w me he can also tell me.

and we will work it out.

well I can't read this cap man and I don't know what he is thinking.

what do u think?
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So wait...Is he hosting a female in his home. Why?

People that have sex use the term "friend" loosely so what I wanna know is...

Are you going to be present/spending the night during the time she's in his home as a guess?

Have you spoken to her to get a feel if they are intimately involved with one another?

Why isn't she in a hotel?

How long is she going to be in his home?

Why isn't this a deal breaker for you?

Telling him what you need and want is fine but I doubt you'll get much more from a Cap male that is unable to demonstrate basic affection and communication. Good luck with getting that out of him on a regular basis.

He's already disrespecting and stunting on you with this other female believe it or not.

Some Cap men will pull this kind of stunt to not give you more of a normal relationship because Cap men like him don't want that and if he's this kind of Cap you'll be pulling your hair out eventually.
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Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
it always seems like you can never stop and just enjoy him....you always have to find something to worry about or something wrong.

I know you are a virgo....I get that.....but for the love of cookies....can you just take 30 minutes and enjoy the man uninterrupted from all your neurosis!

PLEASE!—?!!!——

😄


+1 😆

My experience with my now ex-Virgo was that she couldn't read me. But we compensated for that by just being able to talk about everything.

Just relax.
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Elle what is the "sigh" and "don't" actually mean?

Listen, you have some pretty slack boundaries and you're red flag meter is damn near broke so I'm not sure why you keep telling women they're being insecure when in nights case it's not absolutely about her being insecure.

I don't wanna make this thread about you Elle but geeesh.

If I where you nights I would spend a few nights over to get a good feel about what's really going on.

This woman could be a friend of a friend or she could be some random chick he met online you won't know until you know.

Not all Cap males are selfish cheating assclowns but when some random woman pops up in a conversation, especially a woman you've never heard about before that's a big clue that something is off with his story.

You can ignore your instincts and allow others to make you feel like it's you but you're not the one bringing some random person whose going to basically live with you for a month.

You're not being insecure out of nowhere, there is a story that has affected you by his decision to bring some random broad into his home and that would make any woman feel unsure and slightly insecure.

If I where you I'd take a break and rightfully so, he know the shit he's pulling is questionable he just wanna if you're dumb enough to stick around and put up with it. You yourself said you have a history of picking men that are one foot in and one foot out and here you are again with the same kind of guy.

You've done this story before with the previous relationships why keep doing it. Time to set a boundary because if you don't he's essentially being given the green light to do this again and again. You never wanna send the unspoken message that it's okay to have questionable behavior because if you do he'll keep putting you in these situations where you have to second guess and question his questionable actions/behavior.
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"Low blow from a relationship I came on here with almost five years ago. I'm not even going to go there because it has nothing to do with her current relationship or mine."

Not just five years ago, from what I'm told (unsolicited information from someone on DXP that I was helping with one of her issues and your name came up by her) you're still doing stuck on stupid Elle.

"She's been told she can come over as often as she'd like."

Of course she can

"This is the crap I'm talking about. You are adding fuel to the fire. This is a girlfriend of a current friend of his. Why try to make up a story to make it sound worse than what it is?"

Once again you just believe what a man will tell you. This random, yes I said random because her name according to nights has never came up before until she's living in his home for a month.

The story in itself is already worse, can't get no worse than what it is.

"This relationship is less than six months old. If you want to suggest she be a controlling neurotic girlfriend.....then she probably shouldn't date caps. That may be the *real* answer here.

No you're suggesting she's a controlling and neurotic girlfriend, something you're known to be.

I'm suggesting she follow her gut instincts, 99% of the time those instincts are correct, something you've been known not to follow.

"I've learned from being in a healthy relationship with a cap that men aren't always trying to pull shit.

No. Really.

They are not dogs, they don't need to be put on leashes either."

The men you've dated all where dogs that would not allow you to leash them, you tried every which way but loose to do it, you took immense emotional abuse b/c of it, hopefully the current guy is not toxic.

No not all men are trying to pull shit because real men that want to be in love aren't trying to pull shit, they care and they have respect, especially not bringing a woman to live in their homes. Cap males don't throw another woman up unless he's single and/or not that emotionally involved with their girlfriends.

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He's free to do what he pleases because can't control his actions but she doesn't have to sit idly by and put up with it, something you're known to do.

The unevolved Cap males are very unavailable and will be good only for a short amount of time before they throw another woman up in the girlfriends face. The evolved Cap males know better, they communicate and they don't keep their women on the edge mentally and emotionally.

As for not seeing questionable behavior, well of course you don't, you never do, you never have, shit just goes completely over your head, not much has changed.

Of course you see nothing wrong with your man having some female up in his house, why am I not surprised by your attitude, this attitude has been going on for years. You live in mindfucking head space with men, not much has changed.

Oh you got a woman staying in your house, okay no problem, silently seething inside, you're a fucking scorpio right, you can't pull that no problem bullshit with me whose seen certain sides of your headspace and it's off a lot of the times.

I bet my yearly bonus the relationship you're in is unhealthy but now you're hiding it all so no one can see it on DXP, girl bye, we know you.

She's not being insecure, she has a reason to feel insecure and until she figure it all out she should take a deep breath, take a step back and really evaluate what's going on and this is a great opportunity to put a boundary in place so going forward she will feel empowered that although she can't control a man she can maintain a level of self control over herself by taking care of herself and trusting her instincts.

The unevolved Cap males pull this shit, they go strong and then throw a wrench in it because he's afraid of intimacy, now that she know this she can evaluate if this is what he's doing.
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Posted by cowpuncher
I'm a Cap male, and I'm pretty loyal to my good friends. I have quite a few friends all over the country since i've moved around a bit. If, for instance, some of my friends from California had a wife, girlfriend, daughter.. whatever.. coming to my part of the country for a couple weeks, and asked me if I could make her comfortable, I'd absolutely put her up for a couple weeks, no problem. Those same friends of mine would do the same for me if asked.

Would anything happen between us? Hell no! That would be a betrayal of that friendship. Frankly, if a Cap male is inclined to cheat, he can be a whole lot sneakier and do it a whole lot better than telling his Virgal gf "Oh hey this chick who is my buddy's gf is coming over and staying for 2 weeks."

On top of that, he told the Virgal gf she can come over and spend the night all she wants during that period. HELLO? There's your frickin sign! The guy isn't up to anything.

1 - He told the GF that this buddy's girlfriend was coming, ahead of time.
2 - He told the GF she can come over all she wants during that period.
3 - He told the GF she can stay over as much as she wishes during that period.

Now, just exactly how in the hell does that add up to a guy who is poised and planning to cheat? You have to be pretty paranoid to come up with that, in the face of those three points. What's he gonna do? Use his super Seagoat Ninja skillz to sneak out of the bed without waking up his gf, go in the next room, use his Super Suave Seagoat Seduction Super Powers on the buddy's gf... get himself some from her... then switch back to Super Seagoat Ninja Mode and sneak back into bed with his own gf without waking her up... then use his Super Duper Seagoat Jedi Mind Control powers to keep the buddy's gf quiet about it over breakfast the next morning... all while making sure he hands off the used condom to some Mafia dudes so they can bury it somewhere under concrete at a construction site?

Tiki, you're off the deep end here, and this Virgal gf is headed there herself.


+1

Seagoat Men just have too much Suave Ninja Skills to not seduce any woman within his sights.
...think we could get a charity started for us? Support group maybe? I mean we have to live with that everyday. It's soooo hard man. ;_;
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LOL so Cow and Twirl are an item right? Puhleeeze

I've dated Caps, married to one so I know the difference between a mature Cap and an immature one.

No Elle I've witnessed your shit first hand, I just thought you out grew the shenaningans until someone on DXP indicated you're doing the same ole shit.

You never had a brain to begin with, love toxic unavailable men and you love some drama.

I hadn't said one word to your dead half a brain behind but of course as always you're a drama queen and need attention but have the nerve to call her insecure, nights is not insecure, the only insecure woman on the Cap board is yo ass.

I'm here and I have my fucking opinion, you don't like it hit the block button Elle and Cow but WAIT I see ya'll wanna hog the Cap board as if no one else can have an opinion here.

So what now you're hogging the Cap board as if what you say matters and what I and everyone else has to say doesn't matter now that's what being insecure looks like. Notice I'm not the only one with this opinion but I'm the one that is getting attacked for it, what a bunch insecure DXP babies.

As for having multiple accounts, I wouldn't put anything pass you, you need an audience, someone to agree with your bullshit because if no one is agreeing with you then what you have to say must not be relevant, here comes cow to save the day to make what you say appear relevant LMAO! This is comical.
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I would have to agree with TwirlingStrawberry on this one.

I don't much about your story but I do have a lot of experiences with Virgo Sun and Virgo Moon women and they ALL have one thing in common. They need to be in COMPLETE control of a relationship to feel secure. There is nothing wrong with this, as I like to be the conductor of my love train. TooT! Toot! 😄... but I usually make it a fun ride...

I notice Virgo women usually suck the life out of relationships with their need for complete control and constantly dissecting.

I've been trying to help my Libra sun/ Virgo moon friend for years... and her relationship didn't become stable until she, just recently, started listening to my advice.

I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell her. CHILL. RELAX. Live your own life, have a life outside of this relationship, and don't worry too much about him. He's in the relationship with you. Knowing more about his mind and what he thinks and how he feels is NOT going to change the way he feels for you. PUSHING to know how he feels may suck those feelings away.

You either trust him or you don't. If you do trust him, trust in the fact that he loves/ or cares for you enough not to hurt you.

The more a woman pries to learn what a man is thinking the more he closes up.

I know. I've gotten my Cancer man to open up to me just by letting him give WHEN HE wants to give. NOT because I forced it out if him or dwelled over it obsessively. I trusted and built a loving relationship to where he was comfortable enough to open up to me.

It's not real if you force it. Or obsess over it. Just let it happen naturally and trust in him and yourself.

Have confidence. Have faith.
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No Elle it wasn't just the Cap you were being stupid over.

You see I know how you work on DXP, others say something you don't agree with suddenly the DXP brigade swoops in and agree with you so you can appear relevant, that's being insecure. I dunno if these users are you or just people that come in save your ass when you're talking stupid but who cares I sure don't.

No fool I dated a Leo when I first came to DXP, years ago. Look at you asking why I hid a few threads, least I didn't delete my whole damn profile. Can't really delete stupid no matter how hard you try.

I'm married to a Cap. I've only shared that with a few women that I've had the pleasure of helping on DXP via email. Catch up.

No matter where you go you still try to turn shit around and put the attention on yourself, that much has not changed.

You're insecure too. Trying to hide that shit under a new user name, girl bye LOL.

Nights isn't coming across as being insecure, she actually has a valid reason to feel the way she feels.

Nights follow your gut instincts about this, what you'll find is that you're not wrong about this situation. You're pretty close to the truth. If something feels off, listen to that feeling.

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I share my relationship but not in every thread and mainly via email. I am the first to speak about the assclowns I dealt with before I woke the hell up.

Your deletion is a front to disguise your poor relationship habits, the shitty unavailable men you chase that don't want to love you. I mean how can you be so confident and secure when not too long ago you were being a total dum dum.

You're talking out the side of your asshole so I'll take talking in circles any day.

You are the circus and the monkeys and the clown. Good day.
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I'm gonna go with Cowpuncher here.

I have a lot of female friends. Probably some of my best friends are female and gorgeous ones at that.
I have known them for years and some I even had a stronger emotional bond with than my girlfriends sometimes. But I have no intention to fuck them.

Would I allow any girlfriend to prevent me from spending time with them or provide them with something I promised? NO

If you are insecure about what I will do you have a few options and a few obligations:
- Deal with it
- If I made a promise there has to be a damn good reason why I should break it
- I will do whatever I want, any manipulating or forcing won't work, it will even backfire
- I expect you to tell me any doubts you have, give me a chance to explain myself

Your Cap might have forgotten how you would feel about this because it never crossed his mind it could come across differently. In his mind he ruled out that option by allowing you to come by whenever you want. He has known her for years and he know the vibe between them.

Even in the most evil possible case that he did invite her to fuck her and tries to get you into a threesome... well then there is no stopping him anyway.

Follow the advise of people here but most importantly, tell him how you feel and allow him to explain. If you have a good bond he will give you his honest answer.
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I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.
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Posted by truecap
I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.



Cause it's less dramatic and less controlling.
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Posted by SirHorns
Posted by truecap
I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.



Cause it's less dramatic and less controlling.
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Aha!! You may be right!
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hey guys! thanks for ur replies ! sorry don't mean to create any unhappiness in these post. and really understand all the point of views represented.

I met the friend and she seems ok. I'll prolly stay over a couple of nights and at this point in time let things be.

cap bf says just once only anyway.

will try not to be overly paranoid. all my controlling behaviour is hopefully under control and I am the kind of virgo who doesn't Appear virgo..

my libra moon is a lot more obvious...

am thankful to have u guys around here for Input. many ppl I know don't believe in horoscopes at all.

but I do , to a certain extent.

regarding the part about asking for more affection, I thought it would b good for me to communicate transparently so he gets where I am coming from.

I am not expecting him to change to the way I am,
just hoping he can spare some thought and do sth about it.

I am glad to have done so. he's doesn't seems affected by it. not even defensive or anything.

I don't intend to bring it up again.

and I like to believe that if he cares got me he will make effort.

still, thank u thank u thank u!


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Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
Posted by tiki33
As for derailing the thread it wasn't necessary.. Can't everyone have an opinion without being disagreed with or attacked for having an opinion? Motherfuckers be so insecure that they have to pick apart and devalue what I have to say to appear relevant, a secure person doesn't have to do that to another person. Thread should have never been derailed to begin with.



sweetie, you are projecting.

you've been doing this very thing to me the entire thread because I didn't agree with you.

priceless.
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LOL I didn't speak to you nit wit, yeah remember that part where I didn't say one word to you.

Leave it to you to be a shit stirrer and then wipe your hands clean of it and point the finger at me, it's all that emotional mindfucking abuse that taught you that one from the toxic men in your life.

You're Scorpio messiness steals the day. Good luck with that.
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Nights you didn't start unhappiness at all.

Can you explain what you mean by "cap bf says just once only anyway."

Are you saying the Cap only wants you to stay one time at his place while he's hosting the woman? Clarify please?

It's okay to ask for affection just know if that is not his comfort zone you probably won't see much of that consistently. If he makes an effort to pull himself out of his comfort zone that's a big positive.
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Posted by noname
hosting a friend, woman or man is no problem but 'd have a big problem if my SO has a stronger emotional bond with another woman though. i'm above all other friends and vice versa. period.


Ever had a friend that you have been through a lot with? For whom you would travel to the other side of the world for if that person needed it? Because you have been through a lot together?

That's the kind of emotional bond I mean. To have that with anyone, even a SO, takes time.
The fact that it is a woman does not mean anything here.

I will be the one to choose. If you need to demand loyalty because you are not certain I will choose you, you will most likely get the opposite reaction.
If you feel you are above all friends just because you are fucking someone will mean you are in for a disappointment.

Deal with it.
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Posted by truecap
I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.



Cause she has the logic of a cantaloupe. Or maybe she lives with her parents.
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She hasn't aknowledged the idea on either this thread or her other thread I posted this on. I'm starting to think she just likes the drama of the whole thing.
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Posted by truecap
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by truecap
I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.



Cause she has the logic of a cantaloupe. Or maybe she lives with her parents.



She hasn't aknowledged the idea on either this thread or her other thread I posted this on. I'm starting to think she just likes the drama of the whole thing.
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Her last post in the first topic about the situation said that she lives with her parents and she doesn't have that option
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She has acknowledged what "cap bf says just once only anyway." means

Why would he say she can stay one night only? That in itself is questionable on his part.

A girlfriend of his friend if she's just a friend there shouldn't be a problem with Nights spending multiple nights at his place while she's visiting.

What man would want his girlfriend living in his friends home without him (the best friend) being there. The whole thing smells fishy to me.

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Posted by tiki33
She has acknowledged what "cap bf says just once only anyway." means

Why would he say she can stay one night only? That in itself is questionable on his part.

A girlfriend of his friend if she's just a friend there shouldn't be a problem with Nights spending multiple nights at his place while she's visiting.

What man would want his girlfriend living in his friends home without him (the best friend) being there. The whole thing smells fishy to me.



When she said "once only anyway" I wasn't sure if she meant the girl staying was a one time thing, or that she could spend the night once while the girl was there.
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Posted by truecap
I still don't understand why the virgo doesn't offer for the girl to stay at her place. I agree with the guys that it is a friendship thing because he has been so honest about it. So instead of giving the cap a hard time, why doesnt she do the logical thing and put the girl up at her home. Then there would be no question of intention or appropriateness. Its really just that simple.

'Nuff said.



Cause she has the logic of a cantaloupe. Or maybe she lives with her parents.



She hasn't aknowledged the idea on either this thread or her other thread I posted this on. I'm starting to think she just likes the drama of the whole thing.




Her last post in the first topic about the situation said that she lives with her parents and she doesn't have that option
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Oh, okay. Thanks. I guess I missed it.
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Posted by noname
we do not know each other and never need to deal with each other so relax no need to talk like a tough guy big tiger lol

I never need to demand loyalty because I chose wisely.

You are too young to know why (what?) SO means. case closed


Grrrr. I should lay off on the late night posting on here. Makes me grumpy for some reason...

You are right. I am too young to know what a Significant Other means. And I have no plans to marry anytime soon.

Still, don't patronize me by saying I am too young and that's it. You are not talking to your own child or something.
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Posted by TigerCap
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we do not know each other and never need to deal with each other so relax no need to talk like a tough guy big tiger lol

I never need to demand loyalty because I chose wisely.

You are too young to know why (what?) SO means. case closed


Grrrr. I should lay off on the late night posting on here. Makes me grumpy for some reason...

You are right. I am too young to know what a Significant Other means. And I have no plans to marry anytime soon.

Still, don't patronize me by saying I am too young and that's it. You are not talking to your own child or something.
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Just because you don't know what SO means, doesn't mean you can't give sound logical advice.
Which you did.
The insecure control freaks are flipping their shit though.
I mean wow, the GF can stay with her BF and other girl the entire time she's there.
Yet you still have them expecting the worse.

Not a good luck. At all.
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🙂

so I stayed alternate days n it's seems ok.

I think cap bf needs me time n I realise I need me time too...

staying over everyday is just too much.

trying hard not to let the mind wander...

n glad just one week more to the girl leaving...

I've been a good host, helping out in directions n wat nots. n inviting her to join us for meals but seems she is not interested.

9 days more...